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Dasdi96 (NA)
: Anyone else sick of this spoiled brat?
as much as I hate yasuo, he really isn't that good right now. Coordinated teams just completely stomp him. I've tried playing him a couple of games and every single one I get camped and tower dove the entire laning phase.
: Lethality was nerfed. Lethality is weaker than flat pen (basic math, do you use it???1?). Tanks are getting a full class rework, did you not see this? ADCs are hardly overpowered right now, tanks are just bad.
My post, did you read it? I talked about how they made it into lethality because armor pen was too strong. ADCS aren't overpowered? Really? I got thresh autoed and flayed and jhin autoed me twice and killed me. At level 1. Not to mention that jhin is played in every single game now. But that wasn't the point which you would know if you read the post instead of skimming it. The point was that they do this for every class where they try to change the entire role because one or two champions are out of line. Get the fuck off my thread if you're not going to read it.
Rioter Comments
: Taliyah's damage is complete trash. Learn to play.
You don't have anything to back that up because her combo is ridiculous amounts of damage. Im saving up for her and I'll play her for 2 weeks and come back and talk about how bullshit she is
EIìse (NA)
: Taliyah has a 46% winrate.. Just because you don't know how to follow, roam, lane, or deal with not even meta champions doesn't mean they need a nerf.
You can't follow someone that walks into river for 2 seconds and then is bot lane. The only champions that can actually fight a half decent taliyah are ones that out range her
EIìse (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=AKATzkiDEIDARA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0TEE5bYl,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-02-16T20:43:20.992+0000) > > I've lost lane fun fact: losing lane to anything is a possibility, in case you didn't know that. In fact some champions are designed to always win lane but they have flaws when it comes to team fighting and seiging where they eventually fall off and become useless. Taliyah isn't even one of these. > [{quoted}](name=AKATzkiDEIDARA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0TEE5bYl,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-02-16T20:43:20.992+0000) > > and the only people that know she's strong are the people that play her and they wouldn't dare say anything about nerfing a champion that gets them free elo. Those taliyahs that you see win... are the only ones in existence. Anybody who still plays this champion are dedicated mains or one tricks, which theorically could play urgot jungle out of bronze to platinum if they were really good at it. Granted she's a fun champion but when it comes to the taliyah playerbase, she's not meta compared to any other mage. Hell her low playrate + poor winrate shows even mains don't always succeed with this champion.
I lose lane to her EVERY TIME because she has way too much lane presence. Taliyah has immense lane pressure and roaming and team fighting and you can ask anyone that has actually put time into the champion and they'll probably say they win a good amount with her. She can't be engaged on, can't be caught out, and can't be outdueled because she punishes anyone that trys to avoid her shit by making it so they'll take extra damage from trying to play against her.
Trogmar (NA)
: Taliyah or Ryze
Don't listen to that missing kayo guy. Put 10 games on taliyah and you'll start winning a shit ton because of how powerful she is. This guy just doesn't see or play her so he has no idea. Taliyah is probably one of the hardest solo carry mages out there.
: She's always seemed like a fair champion to me. If you dodge her knock-up, her mine field does far less damage and you can win basically every trade.
At 3 items agaisnt a vi with merc treads and hexdrinker, just throwing out her minefield decimates your health. That's without even activating the secondary effect which is really easy to do because of how much it slows you and when you get rylais you practically can't miss it.
: Please Tell Me My Nautilus Isn't One of the Tank Reworks...
He needs less damage and more tankyness because right now he's a giant lane bully
: For a second, I thought this was requesting buffs. Should've known better than to expect smart posts on Gameplay. She is near trash-tier and you want even more nerfs? Her damage is horrible and she only has 1 meaningfully hard CC on W that is extremely easy to avoid (knockback with ult is unreliable), and 1 soft CC (E slow). Shitposting is shitposting.
I'm guessing you haven't fought a taliyah recently or see one that has played more than 5 games on her. She's legitametly overpowered and wins a majority of any solo or teamfighting confrontation because of what her abilities allow.
: {{champion:163}} is a champion? Forgot she existed.
I've lost lane and seen every teammate lose lane against her and the only people that know she's strong are the people that play her and they wouldn't dare say anything about nerfing a champion that gets them free elo.
: Jhin 54% PICK RATE 52% Winrate
Jhin has been the top adc for about 70% of the time after his release. The only people that come close to him are caitlyn and vayne. He's like lee sin where riot will not make any meaningful changes to him because of how many people play him
Rioter Comments
: what game are you talking about? the yasou top game where you laned vs a plat darius with a maokai jungler? and you had nothing but IE n PD and feed?
I lane switched with ekko, who didn't fight or poke me once, and I did techincally feed but I had no choice in the matter because there were three people mid at every stage of the game.
: I see what you did there.
farming downvotes to feed the poor
: Only if Akali uses wrong skins
: I found the biggest Fizz counter
It's funny because fizz beats akali
Goku7474 (NA)
: lol XD
damn I'm not getting massive upvotes for some reason lmao
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Goku7474 (NA)
: You should make a post about leathlity needing a buff, talk about downvotes lol
YOU'RE RIGHT see you on the hot page
: Lucky you. They're nerfing him.
They're nerfing his e, the one ability he didn't use when he all in me from river. Maybe nerfing his q damage would be better?
: > [{quoted}](name=AKATzkiDEIDARA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oLrfeBwh,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-02-15T22:36:12.181+0000) > > Build rageblade, bork, trin force, bloodrazor, phantom dancer, and statik shiv. Why? > > because this is what the master yi that 3 shotted me as a 4k health vladimir had. We had to use the entire team just to kill him. That build is awful LOL.
have you tried it? The master yi I fought tried it. I had 200 armor and he didn't have armor pen and like I said, he killed me in 3 autos. Probably isn't that bad if he can do that.
Goku7474 (NA)
: Whaaaaa, good joke man lol
Just trying to see how many downvotes i can get so far its working
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=AKATzkiDEIDARA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oLrfeBwh,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-02-15T22:36:12.181+0000) > > Build rageblade, bork, trin force, bloodrazor, phantom dancer, and statik shiv. Why? > > because this is what the master yi that 3 shotted me as a 4k health vladimir had. We had to use the entire team just to kill him. How would that help early game? It takes so much gold and early pressure which Yi doesn't have to build into bork, tri force or rage blade.
yi with recurve bow at level 6 does a shit ton of damage. His early game all comes from how ridiculous he is with his bloodrazor bork combo. Building rageblade in mid game gives him the ability to 1v1 anyone and the rest of the items make him two shot high health targets for no reason.
Rioter Comments
: "Every marksmen auto should feel unique"
Yeah I don't think the marksmen are as weak as everyones trying to make them out to be.
: @Meddler The current state of Master Yi the last 2 patches is at very bad spot
Build rageblade, bork, trin force, bloodrazor, phantom dancer, and statik shiv. Why? because this is what the master yi that 3 shotted me as a 4k health vladimir had. We had to use the entire team just to kill him.
: My Experience With The Community
I was expecting a salt filled toxic raged story but I got something heartwarming go fuck yourself (sarcasm btw)
: Just a reminder to low elo that the meta barely affects us
I don't know what low elo you're playing in but at silver 3 i'm having all of these problems you're saying I'm not supposed to be having.
Tobbestor (EUNE)
: Unintentional feeding = Intentional feeding. 2k17
It's funny because riot takes weeks to ban accounts that int feed 10+ games in a row
: Can't tell how many games i lost because my team left kha open after the "nerf". 0,2 BONUS ad ratio. Wow. Well and a bit more cooldown and Q which has a low cooldown anyways on top of the refund. I just don't get why riot over the years put every power of k6 into a point and click undodgeable ability instead of giving power into his W and E. So he actually has to hit a rotation to kill someone off.
they dont need to transfer damage anywhere. what they need is to just flat out nerf him. I don't know what they were thinking putting his q on a 2 second cooldown on isolated targets but for whatever reason, I feel like it never matters. I could be running back to my minion wave and not be isolated and still lose 2/3 of my health.
: If they consider him weak at 2, it's their god damn own fault. People here 'bad earlygame/lane' and think they have a freepass, butt power curves and spikes are simply more nuaced than that. It's also how most Yasuo's get fed - 'He's a hypercarry, his early is supposed to be weak', yea well, not his first few levels. nor the lvl 6 if he gets the knockup for the ult. Same also with kassa, kassasdin's first 3 level are amongst the strongest in the game, he has 3damage sills that all have high rank 1 base damage, they just have a poor scaleing with ranks so he drops post 3 till he gets some items. So yea, if people die to a early level 'cheese' of a champ that supposedly has a bad early, when it's their own ignorance that gets them killed.
You see the difference between yasuo and kassadin and talon, is that yas and kass don't instantly kill people with 2 abilities and ignite. They usually have to poke people to half first and then they go in while talon just says "Oh a full health oppenent and I've got 20 ad let me just do nearly 700 damage real quick"
: If you are EVER slow and unaware enough to be hit by the return of his W, you deserve to die 20 times over.
why do you people think it's slow? Because it's slower than it used to be? If the talon throws it out with you in the center after he q's into you theres no way you're dodging that without burning flash or using a movement ability. that's kind of how talon worked in the first place right?
: shit we might well get rid of {{item:3157}} while we at it
oh yes because being essentially stunned and vulnerable = running around at 600 movement speed unable to be cced so you can one shot someone
: "A lot" is two words, but unless you're [talking about a village in India](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alot) alot isn't a word.
damn i was thinking of allot but yeah i was talking about that village in india
Kr1sys (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=AKATzkiDEIDARA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QPuLyAXW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-15T05:05:45.687+0000) > > OH SHIT we can't have a tank that provides utility WE GOT TO HAVE HIM DO THE DAMAGES > > but seriously though when riot goes to rework the vanguards, they're probably going to do that to all the tanks. We don't need them doing damage and especially not ones like shen. Shen is still 100% viable as long as you don't try so hard to stomp your lane. His strength is in his utility not his 1v1 dueling. The only way they should buff shens damage is if they nerf his shield and his taunt and I think he's better off having a really good shield and taunt then some extra damage The problem with tanks not doing damage is that if they blow their cc they contribute nothing to a team fight. Shen misses his taunt, which is terrible on its own, you just flat out ignore he exists. No damage, No utility, his shield is weak compared to all the other champs that provide shields with increased utility and/or damage. He does nothing that another champ can't do better.
He does nothing that another champ can't do better? That's your argument? For one, I think the ability to give a 500+ point shield, more than most supports, to a teammate ANYWHERE ON THE MAP is pretty significant in itself. That's not including that he also teleports to their location where he turns a fight into a 2v1 sometimes. He's also the only champion to have a taunt with the ability to not tank damage after taunting and if he plays right, can directly fuck and adc or aa based champion. You are greatly underestimating shens damage. Are you saying that you built full tank and don't do damage? GOOD that's how it should be. But the shens I've seen build titanic hydra and do a decent amount of damage. Sure it's not one shot instant burst like garen or darius and he has to actually build an item that gives him damage rather than having it handed to him, but it's also capable of providing something for his team in fights besides his other utility. Ignoring a shen that's attacking your adc is asking to be killed which is why most people don't ignore him. They'll hit him with a little cc or whatever, like most tanks, so they can get to the carries. I seriously doubt that when you're playing shen you can just walk through the entire enemy team and start auto attacking their adc after you miss your taunt.
: Translation of "I died as a full 600 armor tank rammus in 2 secs to an all AD comp"
I was playing chogath around 6.24 or so and I had 6k health and maybe around 300 armor but one of the items I had was thornmails and he had lord doms as his only armor pen and destroyed me in less than 8 seconds solo which is kind of bullshit. Not saying that I think tanks should survive significantly longer but if riots going to do something they should give them more survivability at the cost of damage.
GoatPope (NA)
: Not sure if you wanted to add to the pile of mistakes, but "alot" isn't a word
It is a word... better luck next time i guess...
grug (NA)
: and people want to take away ryze's point and click root l0l. one of the best ways of dealing with these players.
They should still take it away. Having point and click cc specifically to deal with scripting is a stupid af idea
kurnis (NA)
: Miss fortune auto attack
happens with every adc i've played don't think it's a bug.
: Make red buff not effect towers
I would prefer a global buff to tower health and armor pen to make them more of a threat. Taking the enemies buffs has always been a great tactical advantage and giving red to mid or jungler so they can get more tower damage is a really fine gameplay mechanic imo.
Cloud273 (NA)
: Can we buff Master Yi please?
I just had a master yi delete me with about 5 auto attacks as a 4k health vladimir with 170 armor. Is he garbage or are you just not building him right?
Kr1sys (NA)
: Remember the days when Shen was a shitty tank champion with a global shield TP
OH SHIT we can't have a tank that provides utility WE GOT TO HAVE HIM DO THE DAMAGES but seriously though when riot goes to rework the vanguards, they're probably going to do that to all the tanks. We don't need them doing damage and especially not ones like shen. Shen is still 100% viable as long as you don't try so hard to stomp your lane. His strength is in his utility not his 1v1 dueling. The only way they should buff shens damage is if they nerf his shield and his taunt and I think he's better off having a really good shield and taunt then some extra damage
VulDread (NA)
: > well no one is going to be on guard to be 100-0ed by an assassin that's considered weak at level 2. . > For someone that one tricks talon it's weird you think he's shit when he can cheese people so hard in lane at level 2 or 3 Pick one. You can't be aware of the cheese to the point that you complain about it while saying people think he's weak at lvl 2. They gutted Talon's lane dominance. He doesn't win lane anymore. It's "go even and roam 24/7." That's what they've pigeonholed him into, cutting out one of his basic abilities for something dedicated to roaming. The lvl 2 cheese is an exception to this. And it only works on squishy, dumb,players. Tbh it's only consistently successful in Korea, because everyone ends up being aggressive. People in NA are often defensive, or at least passive, so you end up having to flash ignite meleecritQ to get the kill, which, if it doesn't kill the target, is hella risky. If you play Talon top, the lvl 2 cheese prob isn't going to happen.
People do think he's weak at level 2. A large majority of people. Because you guys on the boards have done nothing but say talon is trash for months. Gutted talon's lane dominance? Gutted? No champion can kill someone at level 2 instantly and be considered gutted. You know who got gutted? Azir. Vladimir. Kindred. These champions got gutted to the point where they are weak picks. Talon isn't a weak pick.
: No one is going to be on guard. Assuming no one has played against a recently reworked champion. Again, I don't want to base my successes off my opponents being clinically retarded.
I'm sorry it's retarded to think someone will not 100 to 0 you at level 2? What's retarded is that he can do that much damage.
: lets not buff vladimir
says that as a sion main where sion has been annoying and strong for several patches now. Vlad has been bad for a long time and he got a small buff will you not start complaining about it already?
: "Cheese" by definition means catching people off guard, which relies on your enemies being bad. I don't like my enemies having a say in whether or not I kill them.
well no one is going to be on guard to be 100-0ed by an assassin that's considered weak at level 2.
Anonagon (NA)
: ADCs with lethality are still 'ADCs in 2017 lul' I'm much more afraid of a lethality stacking Riven, Rengar, or Kha than any ranged champion, except Quinn and maybe Jhin, and Quinn isn't even an ADC
ADCs aren't weak and they haven't been for a while. If they were really as weak as everyone says then people wouldn't play them and I wouldn't watch vaynes, jinxs, or ashe run through teams lifestealing through everything while two shotting people because of crit.
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