i get it, season 8 junglers were too strong. well right now the jungle feels bad to farm for ALOT of champs. junglers that need to wait till 6 to do anything of use get crapped on by junglers that just level 2 or lvl 3 gank all day. But that isnt even the main issue, the main issue is that the jungle itself is so boring and lifeless. Counter jgling is not a thing except for a few odd cases, camps no longer give cool buffs because of plants (which i personally still dont like except river plants), and scuttles is just a turtle.
please help the jungle