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Fair enough.
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Seems riot is only getting worse with their punishments.
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Imagine giving an old time player an undeserving ban as the actual 10 year anniversary. PogChamp rito
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> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OPFfPY2u,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-28T00:03:05.723+0000)
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> Their actions are irrelevant, your actions are the only ones that matter for your punishment. Given you were permad, this is not your first rodeo.
So you are saying that you agree that doing what he did is punishable? Also I have to disagree, being provoked plays a big part.
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You got frustrated by your teammates behaving unfairly, being afk and blaming/threatening you. And typed one innocent insult in the end in order to vent out your frustration? You had a valid natural human reaction to something bad that has happened to you in game? How dare you.. you are a monster. You are the most baddest toxic man alive.
Jokes aside, it's really weird to have someone being perma banned for something like this, even banned in the first place. I would suggest to have this case manually checked and provide a proper punishment, if there is a punishment to give for this in the first place. Aren't people supposed to get muted for typing something offensive, rather than perma banned? I checked stats it doesn't seem like this player was inting or feeding either.
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System only tracks what you say on chat. So if you troll while acting nice or not saying anything in chat ya won't get banned.
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> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HA7REldU,comment-id=00020000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-29T14:07:36.637+0000)
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> Yes, because chat is automated?
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> An AI can detect of you dropped the n bomb in chat. An AI cant figure out if you died 20 times because of a smurf, playing an off game, or if you just intentionally died.
Okay, but it doesn't detect context. I think people who do their job, reports and tickets can judge based on context and circumstances. Point is why hide posts like those?
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> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HA7REldU,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-07-29T13:56:42.772+0000)
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> You realize it takes numerous days for them to even get to player report tickets, right? And its not like its an instant auto ban, the best they can do is forward it for investigation.
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> Again, this requires manual review, and theres thousands of these to review per day.
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> The proof is objectively bad.
Yet it takes them less than a minute to ban players for being toxic in chat, almost instantaneously? Even unfairly banning them? I myself got a 2 week straight up ban for talking back to a flamer and inter in game. Why not just chat ban me or warn me? For having a valid human reaction to something distasteful. And now you're trying to tell me oh it takes time to ban someone like this. Dude, he didn't get banned, 30 games, tickets, reports, days.
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> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ec9EzYAq,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-07-29T13:33:54.580+0000)
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> As I recall, at some point the poster had said "do this yourselves to spite the system" and that part had been removed. If the discussion had gone to "let's show that the system is flawed by exploiting its inability to punish clearly toxic behavior", it could result in a thread deletion.
Imagine actually fixing the broken system rather than trying to cover up so that players don't abuse your pepega system. Oof.
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It's true, I got a 2 week *ban* for talking back to someone who was flaming me. I don't even remember ever getting warned or chat muted prior to that.
Funny thing is I'd constantly get daily notifications and be congratulated about being such an amazing and honorable player that people love to play with (300% more honors and such), and then minutes later the ban claiming that the majority of players don't like playing with me and find me toxic. A little confusing and contradicting.
But anyways, ya gotta realize that league isn't a social game, so no point in trying to socialize in an unsocial game. It's best to rarely say anything or just give in game calls. Pings and "k" in chat is more than enough lmao. Think of it being like sitting in a tournament match. And if you want to be social, play some WoW or something. Where you get to chill & play and chat.
A game like league is meant to be antisocial, you just queue in with randoms, using each other for elo or whatever and then most of them ya won't be seeing ever again. So no need to talk to anyone. Else you can just call this game league of reporting.
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Yeah I know it's not exactly "trolling". Though it kind of is.. but it seems the game has transformed itself in a way so that the only way to troll is to feed your ass off 0/20 and going afk. Which is not fun at all, I like my trolling to be fun for the whole family.
I hope so too, thanks.
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That makes sense. Thanks for your comment ^^
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True, we could have stated in champion select screen to our team that we were having some fun with weird picks, rather than just talking between ourselves. But I doubt that would stop them from flaming and feeding. People are just overall really unpleasant in this game. And the number of bad teammates drastically increases when I duo with a friend.
But is a win really that important in blind pick? More important than just going and being creative and having fun? :/
I guess the only good thing I got out of it is that I accidentally found out Soraka can counter Vlad and teams really well with Fiora jungle thanks to their constant heals.
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So how exactly was I giving my team a handicap?
Seems like there is a lot of bad luck going on these days eh?
Still you're drifting away from my main point. My main point is this game became untrollable because of just how bad and toxic the majority of the community is. And that's a really bad thing imo.
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Well you look like someone who can have fun at parties m8, and I mean that
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I see. So even blind pick has that mmr thingy, and it's not random at all. Well, no worries. That was the first and only time I try to have fun and troll pick in league. I'll be playing this game for the occasional try hard rankeds since it's the same thing but with a visible rank.
So if I duo with a buddy that is lower elo than me, the game will try to average out the both teams to the same mmr, resulting in the enemy team having overall more skill than mine and putting me in a position where I have to solo carry?
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That's true, I completely agree with you. However, that was absolutely not the case. I think my global heal gave them an edge :) all the while I was winning my lane.
Or does picking Soraka mid handicap my team mentally so that they play really bad the whole game, and only focus on flaming me?
Though these toxic teammates only show up when I duo with friends, so again. Is this how the system works? Duo with a friend = you get 3 really bad and toxic teammates??
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Man, you really seem to be misunderstand me, it also seems you haven't read my whole post. I was the one looking at the "An Ally Has Been Slain" the whole game while I was winning my mid lane against a Vlad as Soraka.
I will never get a chat restriction in my life, I can bet you that. I never flame anyone for feeding and I'm never offensive towards people in game. Though I can talk back sometimes, but I never start it. And I absolutely certainly never troll pick on ranked where you're actually supposed to try your best to win.
All I want to know is, does duo-ing with a friend match us with horrible teammates intentionally? Like is that how the system works? Because it really looks as if that's the case. When I go solo I rarely get those kinds of teams.
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Okay, yeah I agree with you. The problem is that this seems to be a reoccurring issue and it's really bothering me. I am just getting really worried for this game :P
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I don't know why playing Soraka mid on blind pick and having some fun is a good reason for someone to get so triggered over and be so confused as to "wtf I'm trying to do". It's a fucking game.. you're supposed to have fun laughs and giggles while playing a game. Oh right, the community just became really bad, that's why. Kids sweating over normals games... damn. It's even worse because I became the one carrying as Soraka mid while the flamers kept feeding and shit talking with their meta picks.
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Oh no problem, I'll edit mine too then
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You seem to be missing the point. My point is we actually ended up not feeding and were just straight up doing better than our team, as opposed to what they were doing, feeding and flaming. It seems to be a repeating pattern every time I try to duo with a friend, we get really bad teammates, bad as in bad players and bad attitudes. So bad that even when we try to troll, the teammates end up being the actual trolls + feeders.
It forces us to go solo in order to get normal teams which completely defies the point of this game. I just want to know whether that is the way the system works, because if it is I am uninstalling this game.
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Alright, fair enough. I guess normals became ranked too. If having fun is not acceptable and being a flamer/feeder is acceptable then I am finally done with this game, as is everyone I know. Was fun while it lasted, kind of.
//I don't understand what you mean? What system is working as intended? The system doesn't allow to have fun in this game anymore?
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Again, we did not have the intention of winning, just having fun was our intention. And it absolutely failed thanks to the community.
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Ah, I see what you mean. But that's exactly my point.. we were *trying* to troll but we failed at that attempt. We were not trying to win. We were trying to play the game and have fun.
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Rather than voting up or down I would like to encourage you to post a comment here and contribute to the discussion. I would really like to have some information and to know more about this issue. Thank you.
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I'm pretty sure Fizz e can dodge auto attacks though.
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I agree. There should also be a report option when we search their summoner profile. I really don't understand how there isn't an option for that..
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