: The day of reckoning is upon us...
Fk 'em, just some other shiz we gotta find a workaround for. Once a pirate, always a pirate.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AHX43tAh,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-10T13:40:08.973+0000) > > So I'm not the only that arrived to the conclusion that most enchanters are better off with tank supp items huh? xD And I use Guardian as well on some of them too lol. It depends. If you suspect the lane will be very even or against you the targon's is very good. Spellthief can be stacked faster in an advantageous lane. > > Edit: Btw, did you get more LP from winning this game then you'd usually get by chance? Not sure, I went straight to promos.
> [{quoted}](name=Skeleton Support,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AHX43tAh,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-12-10T14:03:26.568+0000) > > It depends. If you suspect the lane will be very even or against you the targon's is very good. Spellthief can be stacked faster in an advantageous lane. I just like how I don't really have to interact much with the enemy while playing Lulu for example and yeah especially in disadvantageous lanes i.e Tresh or Leona, then if they all in I shield my carry and morph theirs. Also for Karma, idk, it's just good by default with Guardian I feel like. > Not sure, I went straight to promos. Congratz btw.
: These are the matches that make you think about life.
So I'm not the only that arrived to the conclusion that most enchanters are better off with tank supp items huh? xD And I use Guardian as well on some of them too lol. Edit: Btw, did you get more LP from winning this game then you'd usually get by chance?
Trias000 (EUNE)
: Shyvana's ult indicator is green even when she doesn't have full fury
Well yeah but your timer is technically off cooldown lol. Still, you have a point.
: This game is done for.
I think you understimate tencent but whatever you say.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VMXzenyE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-12-10T13:05:59.170+0000) > > Garen is just what you're looking for, you can focus on learning the game by playing him since he's just about the easiest champ there is from a mechanic point of view, but I mean, someone needs to take that cake as well so. > > Yi is pretty easy to int with when you don't really know what you're doing but with a bit of mastery you can take over games when the enemy doesn't have any hard CC. > > Ashe is the best in class when it comes to learning about kiting and positioning. > > Ahri is real good at teaching you how to land those skill shots since she has to land her E consistently if you wanna touch on those. > > Brand might be braindead enough, his base dmgs are insane and he's not that hard to learn. > > M.F can be fun even when you don't fully know what you're doing yet. > > Heimerdinger simply destroys actual brand new players lol. But League of Smurfs so don't count on that too much. > > Illaoi is one of those press R kind of champs along with Malphite and already mentioned M.F, I think I'm missing some like Kennen and Annie but anyway. > > Mordekaiser, Darius, Jax and Olaf can be plenty of fun with some minimal mastery as it's easy to abuse most melee match ups with these, Pantheon too I guess. > > For support, things like Pyke, Nautilius, Leona and Morgana would be nice, also Janna (the Queen of disengage) if you like her and understand when it's optimal to play her. Nami is also super good for a new player. That is good info, I will look into some of those champs. Garen and Heimerdonger look promising.
> [{quoted}](name=Trump KAG 2020,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VMXzenyE,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-12-10T13:11:47.013+0000) > > That is good info, I will look into some of those champs. > > Garen and Heimerdonger look promising. With Garen it's more about knowing how to itemize him each specific game, I can give you more info on that if you're interested, just let me know. Aside from that he's pretty straight forwards but there's still things you can do with him to achieve a variety of different results i.e You can use Q for speed up, spin around them to reduce armor with E then hit them with the Q afterwards for maximum dmg. You can max W vs insanely good Renektons or Yasuos or whatever to keep them from snowballing out of control, that way they'll still be a pain for you but at least you keep them contained. As for Heimer, players that aren't used to him keep walking into turret range and literally kill themselves lol.
: Recommendation on what Champion to use.
> [{quoted}](name=Trump KAG 2020,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VMXzenyE,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-10T12:12:27.239+0000) > > I want to know what the most low effort high payoff brainless champ is in the game, any recommendations? > > I just started playing but I think I am good enough to jump right into ranked games, and I need a go to champ. > > So far I have Garen, Yi, and Ashe. Garen is just what you're looking for, you can focus on learning the game by playing him since he's just about the easiest champ there is from a mechanic point of view, but I mean, someone needs to take that cake as well so. Yi is pretty easy to int with when you don't really know what you're doing but with a bit of mastery you can take over games when the enemy doesn't have any hard CC. Ashe is the best in class when it comes to learning about kiting and positioning. Ahri is real good at teaching you how to land those skill shots since she has to land her E consistently if you wanna touch on those. Brand might be braindead enough, his base dmgs are insane and he's not that hard to learn. M.F can be fun even when you don't fully know what you're doing yet. Heimerdinger simply destroys actual brand new players lol. But League of Smurfs so don't count on that too much. Illaoi is one of those press R kind of champs along with Malphite and already mentioned M.F, I think I'm missing some like Kennen and Annie but anyway. Mordekaiser, Darius, Jax and Olaf can be plenty of fun with some minimal mastery as it's easy to abuse most melee match ups with these, Pantheon too I guess. For support, things like Pyke, Nautilius, Leona and Morgana would be nice, also Janna (the Queen of disengage) if you like her and understand when it's optimal to play her. Nami is also super good for a new player.
: Dont play ashe, her E and R make her a very tricky adc to play to her most. {{champion:15}} {{champion:51}} are the ones I would reccomend. They both have very simple kits with plenty of safety and can easily outweigh ashe in a teamfight. {{champion:2}} top rather than garen. Ranged laners are far more popular now and they bully garen easily. With olaf you can chase down anyone and can easily 1v2 if the enemy underestimate your healing from conqueror and W. {{champion:19}} is by far the easiest jungler. Play him rather than Yi. He has incredibly high sustain and powerful ganks with his ulti. He is also a massive amount bulkier than Yi meaning that if you missplay you wont insta die. {{champion:1}} mid. Point and click Q and stun, simple abilities, incredibly strong vs uncoordinated opponents.
> [{quoted}](name=Cind3rkick,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=VMXzenyE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-12-10T12:22:04.696+0000) > > Dont play ashe, her E and R make her a very tricky adc to play to her most. Ashe is love, Ashe is life. Fu Ashe hater. Boo! Also wtf do you mean Sivir and Cait outweigh her in a teamfight? Sivir has legit a measly 0.1% win rate on her while Cait has a 0.2% one, that still puts them ever so slightly ahead but please. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
: I think we need more Bald Female Champs in the game.
Dude, she has like, fin thingies on her head, ok? Don't call her bald just cuz fins aren't hair, ffs.
: What am I supposed to do on bot to consistently win/carry
Even if your team is bad you can use them the same way you'd use pawns in a chess game if you're good, playing something a bit more mobile makes this a bit easier, otherwise you gotta adjust and just be there when they decide to int and make use of them meat shields lol. Also, depending how low of an elo you're playing at you can play for towers and win up to 80% of the time, just go for the most outer tower still standing before moving to an inner one, if there's 2 or all 3 of those still standing prioritize either the one that's lowest hp either the one being more likely to go undefended. It's really easy to do really, just look at the minimap and if you don't know where the plebs are just wait *(and by wait I mean do anything else that's even remotely useful that doesn't involve you dying). Once you see them on the map and know where they are you may go for those towers. They go into the fog? You back the fk out immediately. Rinse and repeat until you hit those inhibs, use your brain and lay down some wards also. If they get to collapse on you it means you're doing it wrong and furthermore if they get to collapse on you and you don't even see them coming then you're dog shit lol, honestly.
Subdue (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ykIHOoQV,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-08T15:14:13.358+0000) > > Meh, match making is a joke half the time either way. He gets lower MMR enemy teams then. This is also incorrect. With the exception of duo queues, all of the people he plays with are about the same MMR.
Dude, even if op.gg is just an estimate whenever I win against lower average MMR teams then my own I get less LP and when I win against higher MMR teams I get slightly more, how do you explain this shiz then?
Subdue (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ykIHOoQV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-06T19:21:29.620+0000) > > Probably your MMR went up a lot but since your rank is still the same you're getting matched with lower MMR players then yourself so you gain less cuz of that. This is incorrect. You're matched based on MMR, not based on your rank. So, for example, if you are Silver 1 and you queue dodge every time you get to your promos, you'll eventually be playing with Gold 1 or 2 players even though you're Silver 1. When your MMR gets higher than Gold 1 MMR, you'll end up skipping promos and jumping straight into Gold 4.
Meh, match making is a joke half the time either way. He gets lower MMR enemy teams then.
moey (EUNE)
: lp decreasing during a winstreak
Probably your MMR went up a lot but since your rank is still the same range you're getting matched with lower MMR players then yourself so you gain less cuz of that.
: This is embarrassing but I don't know how to build items correctly
Just make your own sets and add situational items that you can substitute with what you're usually buying. {{item:3033}} vs any kind of healing. {{item:3179}} potential vision denial or cheap AD when playing from behind. {{item:3139}} Hard CC removal. {{item:3156}} MR + magic dmg shield. {{item:3026}} Survivability. {{item:3036}} vs a lot of armor.
: Riot doesn't understand the Yuumi problem
Don't you know? The only good Yuumi is a dead Yuumi {{sticker:sg-syndra}}
Ehhhh (EUW)
: Because its an additional anti AFK check.
Pfff, they have it in one game mode but not in the other, such consistency, much wow.
Quáx (NA)
: Riot literally fucked every college kid in the U.S this weekend.
You lot are legal; so. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1eGJWOZv,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-06T14:01:51.017+0000) > > Every interaction with another human being is a possible gateway to some new world or experience they say. Sometimes I enjoy where these gates take me but other times it's a complete waste of.. everything. But nah I'm not looking for a friend. I also hate it when people try to be nice to me like this and then I'll have to reject them if I wanna stay real to myself, then they get mad/hurt/whatever thinking I'm looking down on them or something. Don't worry, you will have no such problem like that with me. But hey, lets get a few games in sometime. I won't even talk. We can just play and win in silence like you're all alone like you like.
> [{quoted}](name=CominTowardsYa,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1eGJWOZv,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-06T14:06:13.897+0000) > > Don't worry, you will have no such problem like that with me. > > But hey, lets get a few games in sometime. I won't even talk. We can just play and win in silence like you're all alone like you like. I don't mind having discord during a game, but sure, feel free to add me if you play on EUNE.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1eGJWOZv,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-12-06T13:36:48.724+0000) > > I'm that kinda person that couldn't be any happier all by themselves so when I found out there's ppl out there that are actually scared of being alone it was such a shocker for me. But yeah, I don't play on NA both ways xD Are you looking for a friend? :>
> Are you looking for a friend? :> Every interaction with another human being is a possible gateway to some new world or experience they say. Sometimes I enjoy where these gates take me but other times it's a complete waste of.. everything. But nah I'm not looking for a friend. I also hate it when people try to be nice to me like this and then I'll have to reject them if I wanna stay real to myself, then they get mad/hurt/whatever thinking I'm looking down on them or something.
: Why do i ''lose'' games when im playing good?
I just had a game where I did most everything wrong and still won cuz my team was lit af lol xD Anyways, I stopped caring about lp ages ago. If it's out of my control why kill a single brain cell on it? Being right or wrong about it doesn't mean shiz also, I just wanna play, why suffer? Cuz match making it's a lottery? Riot can do a better job at balancing, granted, not making excuses for them but human element it's completely out of their control as much as we'd want to shove it down their throats with constant QQing all over the net. (boards, reddit etc.)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1eGJWOZv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-06T10:02:33.805+0000) > > https://imgur.com/PN6BAan > > xDDDDDDDDDDDD > Friends {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} > You're so funny. You wanna git in on this too? Oh wait, you're not NA, nvm.
I'm that kinda person that couldn't be any happier all by themselves so when I found out there's ppl out there that are actually scared of being alone it was such a shocker for me. But yeah, I don't play on NA both ways xD
: Kinda reluctant to play games...
https://imgur.com/PN6BAan xDDDDDDDDDDDD Friends {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} You're so funny.
: I tried Zed support (FF pick)
That's why I fell in love with these items ever since I saw them on PBE {{sticker:sg-jinx}} Not Zed related, just same concept on any AD champ and since I was already into Ashe supp, just figures.
Moon Mom (NA)
: So lets break this down. 1. Kayle has better sustained damage. 2. Kayle has a self heal / speedup in her kit / slow to allow for kiting. 3. She has an invlun ult 4. She scales better with fewer items (relies more on levels). Diana in comparison: 1. Can't kite. (her 90 second ult cd slow which can be cleansed does not count). This is not to be confused with sticking. 2. Does not have a heal. She has a shield on a higher cooldown, and will only get better than lives value if she builds HP, reducing her overall effective damage / delays spikes (if roa). 3. Does not get any kind of invulnerability outside of zhonyas and a meager shield. 4. Does not scale better and is very item reliant. Diana is by no means Kayle. She's more contained early game, no longer has a stupid strong mid-game built around stat checking, but now has a late game teamfight potential with some early game agency. You also forget lane Diana is so much easier to punish now because her overall effective waveclear is reduced by lowering passive damage and w uptime. This makes her so much easier to punish than she was early game. Currently, she just shoves waves with W. She is way more balanced than her current iteration, is this something we can agree on? I don't care if her ult is slightly overturned right now. Those numbers can be adjusted, and they will be minor adjustments to base dmg if anything.
You talk a lot of details but I'll bookmark this so I can slap you with some legit hard stats later.
: ah yes because a site like mobafire; where all the builds are submitted by players, are amazing to follow I would say builds people use fall into one of 3 categories 1)Self Taught. This honestly isn't all that bad but some items might be extremely situational and they build it all the time no matter what because of x stat. 2)Site Builds. Yes you can find good builds here, but for every good build you will find like 5-10 derp builds at a bare minimum. 3) YouTuber builds. This is probably the worst. Most players assume that just because some YouTuber used the build that they, more than likely in a much lower elo; can also use the build just fine. LoL does have a learning curve, but I wouldn't say it is steep; least not til you hit ranked. Then it is likely climbing a cliff. Dota 2 is much worse on the learning curve. Smite is probably the easiest (given that they have limitations on what a God can build).
You lost me at mobafire. I lost some brain cells just by reading that word. Sites that give you win rates associated with specific items aren't on par with fkin mobafire, that's so ignorant of you lmao.
: Climbing in ranked
Search skill capped on youtube.
Moon Mom (NA)
: Sustained damage. Nerfed - passive damage, cut in half. Uptime on W reduced, therefore reducing her effective sustained damage periods/windows. All for attack speed that feels slightly better to use. R is not a free penta mechanic if you do not clump. Ask yourself this question: Do you clump against: Malphite, Neeko, MF? No. Don't do it against Diana, and you're fine. Even if she gets it off, you have the default counterplay options shown above. I've played her up to Diamond 3 and know for a fact she was nerfed overall in terms of damage. It's only increased if people clump and don't use one of the options listed above. In which case, if she gets a big ult off, she should be rewarded for finding that opening. I don't understand how her new kit is more 'unhealthy' than her old stat check every 20 seconds kit. Where is this magical sustained damge coming from with her passive damage cut in half. Who will let diana sit on top of them without her ult, or can't juke to her left? I'll bite and edit one more time. Sure, maybe ult damage on a 5 man ult is overtuned. They can nerf the damage a little. That still doesn't change she's far more balanced than her previous iteration.
> Sure, maybe ult damage on a 5 man ult is overtuned. They can nerf the damage a little. That still doesn't change she's far more balanced than her previous iteration. She's only easier to contain in the early game, she'll be Kayle 2.0 otherwise, you'll see.
Moon Mom (NA)
: 1. Diana has had her single target damage gutted. (passive and E damage halved) 2. It's only higher than her live damage if she pulls 3 or more people. 3. The uptime on this damage is severely lowered compared to live. She fits closer to a mage's paradigm in terms of cooldowns now (based on her being gated by ult for big engages / damage). 4. To compensate for earlier access to mobility, her shield uptime was nerfed, opening more windows early game. If she opts to max w, she has no waveclear through q. This iteration of Diana is miles balanced than her old version of 'stat check any enemy champion from the fog of war every 20 seconds with RWQ passive.
What are you smoking dude? Pls tell me. She lost a bit of burst for a metric fk ton of sustained dmg and they just had to give her free penta mechanics as well on top of it.
: Bronze, Silver & Gold all in same ranked game? Why???
Are we talking about flex or regular Solo Q here?
Sirsir (NA)
: I've actually been wondering about that, with the new support items its probably a little better huh?
It really is but now I have to re-polish my craft. The stormrazor path alteration kinda fked up my old default build even though I thought it wasn't gonna be a big deal initially, then Senna happened and that meant I'd rarely get to use a poke rune page anymore. Still, I'll take it, I'm super happy about the change all things considered. Edit: Wait, about that build, I forgot about it lol. Basically you can build whatever you want now with a zeal item rush (usually RFC) if you rely on the stats from the tier 3 supp item + double AD runes and it's even better then before when you had to farm gold with the old coin while sitting on like boots + long sword. The crit chance on zeal translates into actual 20% increased dmg also cuz Ashe things and since poke runes (comet) aren't viable anymore and you'll probably use Lethal tempo you're getting quite the deal there.
: I hate these new support items
I love the fact that they added AD supp items but I agree with this issue they're having all the same.
Sirsir (NA)
: What do Garen nerfs have to do with Ashe?
I edited it for clarity. I have this name cuz I love playing Ashe support and people frown on it but if I have Ashe in my name they're a bit more lenient.
: Soo, about ranged conq nerfs and Garen nerfs...
>First off, those Garen nerfs? They are fucking HUGE! I mean, it's to the point where it will absolutely gut him Thanks Riot, I can play my champ again now that the meta slaves will pipe down, I really appreciate it. But look I'll be nice, you can forget about E max, start building BC again and Conqueror was only good on him cuz E was good so forget about it and go Fleet. I think this is what most mains will do unless they go for Grasp/Phase Rush. Also the trifroce will still be good but BC is even better cuz you shred 50% armor in like 1 sec.
: About Those Karma Buffs - Riot Can We Talk?
Nevermind Karma, get ready to perma-ban Diana. The amounts of scaling they gave her is just wow, and then the mechanic of having bonus dmg for ulting multiple ppl like.. {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: 9.24 Conqueror nerfs for ranged users
So that's what ppl were doing while I was playing double ADC bot, ok. I didn't miss much just as I won't miss it when it's gone lol.
: Warwick vs Camille
It probably wouldn't be a 1v1 though, unless Camille is the last one standing after ww has a few bites with her fodder squads.
forresto (NA)
: I'm honestly going off my personal experience playing, not stats.
Oh, I see. Ok in that case I apologize for my tone earlier but from my viewpoint it's like I said, they're best in class when it comes to diving CC bots, I swear that's what they are, they dive you and they lock you down to death if you ever give them the chance and if you wanna turn on them better bring on some serious dmg cuz you'll sure need it. And yeah they'll poke you down in lane, but they're also weak to your all ins so you should try to pressure when possible and if they don't respect it bring them some pain, even if they're 'too dumb' to know better and hold their distance you can just teach them, they're out of line? All in, make them suffer, they'll respect you the next time, if you just sit there and take all that poke it's not their fault that you actively chose to obediently take it, it falls on you to punish their mistakes just as they clearly punish your being too passive in lane without mercy lol. I mean sure, sometimes you'll go in and your ADC will still farm or you'll just get blown up then you'll maybe want to cuss at me for giving you bad advice but it's not, it's legit advice, you just need to switch gears, practice and improve on your execution and on picking the right moments. But also let's make one thing clear, if said mages are good at disengaging you then it means from the very offset you weren't quite meant to work well against them.
Zullar (NA)
: New Support Items Still Have Minion/Creep Penalty when Fully Upgraded T3
Yeah, it's intended. Idk why they felt it was necessary. Maybe they know something we don't idk man. But I'm securing kills left and right because of it so idc, I won't suffer alone xDDD
: GJ Riot you somehow made the Jungle determines games situation worse
>Legit feels like the best way to win right now is to practice a top tier jungler and just win more than half your games off of auto-filled opponents alone. I swear I love the way you worded that point of view blahahah, and it's even better cuz it makes sense lololol {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Camille W's Arcane Comet Build - Ancient Technique lost in time
I remember this, I might've given it a try if I had her but I kept disenchanting her shards cuz I don't really enjoy playing these mobility creeps types of champions <---- unpopular opinions I know lol.
: Need some tips on how to keep my cool
Well let's go about it with a series of queries. It should be sorta like: Why am I getting mad? - Then the answers would lead to a bunch of other things probably but somewhere down the line it comes down to lp then the logical answer would be stop caring about lp. Which is actually a pretty hard thing to do if you're not used to it and your mind innately adds value to it as if it were real life $$$$ or something.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OV7GRW9d,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-04T08:59:05.101+0000) > > What's with those acute responses on your side though? Are you sick or something? So thats a yes? Or maybe flaming families is ok?
> Or maybe flaming families is ok? I was questioning your reaction and instead of considering your 50% of the whole deal you just blatantly flaunt more of that acute reaction around like you don't even care lol. Idk why I even bother.
: Riven
What's with those acute responses on your side though? Are you sick or something?
forresto (NA)
: Tank Support Items Need Some Kind of Healing
Not even sure if shitposting or not. {{sticker:sg-lux-2}} They might've dropped like 3% in pickrate sure cuz full dmg is just so good now but they were at 8 fkin % before that and now at 5% they're still the most picked tank supports in the game because they're still broken af at what they do <.<
: Malzahar's minions don't proc Conqueror, but Zyra/Heimer/Annie do
I kept hitting my head against a wall trying to figure out Zyra runes and builds before settling on Glacial augment and Twin Shadows + Zhonya's core. Conqueor crossed my mind for like a split second but although I hadn't tested it I really didn't think that was the way, especially cuz I was emphasizing on a support Zyra, I guess I'll give Conqueror a try it's just I really doubt I'll end up using it. You really think it's any good on her?
Doge2020 (NA)
: Considering that Senna is a squishy ranged support, damage or hook based supports like brand, thresh, blitz, pyke, Zyra or Sona might be good against Senna. I guess sustain supports like Janna, Soraka and Nami might also be good against her. I think one of the strategies that will soon develop for fighting Senna will be like Soraka, which is just kill her her before she can heal/shield her team (if it’s support Senna) or before she can kill your team (ADC or full damage senna lol). Her W needs to be treated like a Zilean Q, simply explained as “GET THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME DON’T KEEP ON WALKING TOWARDS THE TEAM AND LET THE BOMB HIT ALL OF US!!!!” While it is slightly different, 1 zilean Q only deals damage and DOES NOT stun while Senna’s W deals damage and roots all enemy units in the radius of the initial target.
The reason I prefer Ashe over any of those mages is not cuz they lack dmg it's cuz they now somewhat lack mana especially in the incipient phases of laning and then she'll still have sustain to counter whatever poke I manage to dish out. With Ashe it's just right clicking and between the AS of Lethal tempo + her Q, the 20% slow on her passive and the 15% bonus MS on Approach velocity you get to have more agency maybe not as much over when you wanna go at it but surely over how hard you wanna step on it when you go and I just love to have this. After they figure out how that lane works they'll turn into sheep and give up on autoing entirely, mostly going for that filthy cc and falling back on sustain. Also, your E counters hers so she doesn't get to cheat death as much as in other lanes. And yes Nami is bae in a Senna lane, the only thing that gives Senna the edge in that lane is that disgusting E of hers. Haven't tried Janna and Soraka yet, but you shouldn't really be picking Janna much into champs that don't do all in thingies cuz peeling is really her thing above all, Senna on the other hand loves to poke, that's a actually pretty bad if you're Janna. As for Soraka she sounds good on paper, haven't tried yet but will see. It's just I personally play her a bit different then most ppl by maxing E and shiz.
Kendren1 (NA)
: One easy addition that would improve this game dramatically
You already have that, just check your settings.
: Why is Senna a lane bully that hyper scales?
I used to perma ban Pyke before but now I'll ban Senna especially if I get to pick later into the draft cuz then I can counter Pyke with Janna which is an old comfort pick for me. Also after I realized the new items actually killed my old build for ~~carry~~ Ashe support and even the runes didn't feel right anymore I was experimenting new ones and realized Ashe can mow her down pretty damn hard in lane, you just win those trades so hard; if she auto's you once and you auto her back you can just keep going and out trade her even through her stupid heals but then you might still end up in trouble if she ever lands that CC.
Laçez (EUW)
: Why is Jax the way his is?
> I agree with it but what is an Ashe going to do against the likes of a champion like Jax? You just gave me flashbacks of all the times I had to solo deff against their split pushing cuz no one else would only to get destroyed despite using my ult and summoners flawlessly and them tanking like 6 tower shots.
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