: Thanks. Are mastery upgrades going to be altered or stay the same?
> [{quoted}](name=Rayjay Redfang,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=BQed8FWz,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-11-22T19:07:18.135+0000) > > Thanks. Are mastery upgrades going to be altered or stay the same? I hope they lower them because giving 7k BE for a mastery upgrades instead of champions feels extremely underwhelming I wish I never upgraded anything to level 7.
: Isnt both khazix and kaynes thing that they are 1v1 beasts? Its like a pantheon. No matter how ahead you are you simply shouldnt try to duel him.
> [{quoted}](name=NocturnalSheild,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=PAtL0xel,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2017-11-10T16:50:36.577+0000) > > Isnt both khazix and kaynes thing that they are 1v1 beasts? > > Its like a pantheon. No matter how ahead you are you simply shouldnt try to duel him. Not really you can duel pantheon if you know what you are doing.
: 1. Not actually an ARAM main, I just hate the meta and ARAM is where I get my fix atm. 2. Rengar is my third highest mastery champion. He used to be my main until I fell in love with Skarner. And [this](http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2582177749/205888787?tab=overview) is the last time I played Rengar on the Rift.
> [{quoted}](name=Variks the Loyal,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=mU50xANj,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2017-10-16T21:26:58.524+0000) > > 1. Not actually an ARAM main, I just hate the meta and ARAM is where I get my fix atm. > > 2. Rengar is my third highest mastery champion. He used to be my main until I fell in love with Skarner. And [this](http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2582177749/205888787?tab=overview) is the last time I played Rengar on the Rift. You have 45k I have like 300k all combined you don't really fully understand his kit I feel like.
Mcemc (EUW)
: Proposal to remake Mecha Rengar recall
I don't like the car transform thingy I dont want it on recall nor on thrill of the zoning
: I'm probably the closest to a Rengar main (I used to main him in previous seasons). His kit has some sick merit to it with his W trading, though specifically in top lane vs jungle. Not too fond of his jungling or his jungle clears. Don't like the word clunky but I'm personally not a fan of the Q swim mechanic. That said, we don't have any plans for Rengar changes atm.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Novalas,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=zzhiQJFF,comment-id=00250000,timestamp=2017-10-26T17:41:07.160+0000) > > I'm probably the closest to a Rengar main (I used to main him in previous seasons). His kit has some sick merit to it with his W trading, though specifically in top lane vs jungle. Not too fond of his jungling or his jungle clears. Don't like the word clunky but I'm personally not a fan of the Q swim mechanic. > > That said, we don't have any plans for Rengar changes atm. I cri everitim.
: He doesn't need another rework. At most, he just needs a new Q. And even then, it can wait. I do like the idea of him being able to leap to enemies he roots with an Empowered E cast, though.
> [{quoted}](name=Variks the Loyal,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=mU50xANj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-15T05:35:07.970+0000) > > He doesn't need another rework. At most, he just needs a new Q. And even then, it can wait. > > I do like the idea of him being able to leap to enemies he roots with an Empowered E cast, though. You are aram main who doesn't really play rengar..why bother to post at all
RÊNGÁR (NA)
: he needs a rework/revert. but not too his leap
> [{quoted}](name=TannLmao,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=mU50xANj,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-10-15T20:04:32.752+0000) > > he needs a rework/revert. but not too his leap I agree almost his entire kit needs some work on it
: He doesn't need another rework. At most, he just needs a new Q. And even then, it can wait. I do like the idea of him being able to leap to enemies he roots with an Empowered E cast, though.
> [{quoted}](name=Variks the Loyal,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=mU50xANj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-10-15T05:35:07.970+0000) > > He doesn't need another rework. At most, he just needs a new Q. And even then, it can wait. > > I do like the idea of him being able to leap to enemies he roots with an Empowered E cast, though. I mean he never saw pro play after the nerfs people don't enjoy him the worst season of them all for rengar mains it can wait until season 22 .. AT LEAST
ddoA (EUNE)
: Can you at least take in a consider about changing Rengar ultimate alert range or something about it? I'm suprised that his global alert still didn't get reduced even after a year of his rework. Stealth on him doesn't make any sense if you gonna alert the enemies from miles away. That is too much counterplay on him, mostly later on when all the enemies are grouped up and knows instatly from which direction you are coming from since it takes for him to get into camo 2 seconds and they will know that already. Making at least radius to not scale up while ranking up ultimate would be good and at least that entering camo duration reducing to 1 second would make him good again. He is not that great just because of his ultimate being the weakest on his kit right now.
> [{quoted}](name=adoKEEP,realm=EUNE,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=TbHlfb46,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2017-10-06T16:10:29.010+0000) > > Can you at least take in a consider about changing Rengar ultimate alert range or something about it? I'm suprised that his global alert still didn't get reduced even after a year of his rework. Stealth on him doesn't make any sense if you gonna alert the enemies from miles away. That is too much counterplay on him, mostly later on when all the enemies are grouped up and knows instatly from which direction you are coming from since it takes for him to get into camo 2 seconds and they will know that already. Making at least radius to not scale up while ranking up ultimate would be good and at least that entering camo duration reducing to 1 second would make him good again. He is not that great just because of his ultimate being the weakest on his kit right now. Riot talked about for a while we had a megathread le blanc rework is next and we hope after leblanc is rengar.
MagÊ (EUW)
: as a mage main, my wishes: Nerf {{item:3165}} , ap should be reduced to at least 80 if not 70 {{item:3102}} {{item:3157}} remove cdr, increase ap to 100 and tweak the price to adjust the items {{item:3089}} better build path {{item:3116}} buffed while making it healthier {{item:3285}} 3200 gold for this? you must be doing jokes riot, reduce the price to 3000 {{item:3812}} spellvamp would be appreciated the reason spellvamp was a problem is because you could get it during laning phase, making vladimir too broken and other manaless mages like kennen if you make a 3600 gold item that gives sustain to mages, i think it would be balanceable
> [{quoted}](name=MagÊ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jHAgghMg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-02T09:46:42.910+0000) > > as a mage main, my wishes: > > Nerf {{item:3165}} , ap should be reduced to at least 80 if not 70 > {{item:3102}} {{item:3157}} remove cdr, increase ap to 100 and tweak the price to adjust the items > {{item:3089}} better build path > {{item:3116}} buffed while making it healthier > {{item:3285}} 3200 gold for this? you must be doing jokes riot, reduce the price to 3000 > {{item:3812}} spellvamp would be appreciated > > the reason spellvamp was a problem is because you could get it during laning phase, making vladimir too broken and other manaless mages like kennen > > if you make a 3600 gold item that gives sustain to mages, i think it would be balanceable Ap itemizations talks about death dance ugh what?! I would look at gunblade because its the only way ap champs get lifesteal unless they are kat and they can build dd no problem
: So salty Rengo won over Kindred. Basically already know who will win this.
> [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=nuwAQfAA,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-09-18T22:23:45.183+0000) > > So salty Rengo won over Kindred. Basically already know who will win this. Dude its based on which community votes for. Of course you will be salty if you lose but /r/rengarmains are more united.
: vote for rengar so he can be viable again someday.
> [{quoted}](name=TimX24968B,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=q3vmFmVT,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-09-16T20:34:51.802+0000) > > vote for rengar so he can be viable again someday. Riot doesnt want rengar to be viable I feel like he was disabled season 7 I guess its a revenge for the bronze adcs
: Why would I ever want gathering storm when games rarely last 30 minutes? Ultimore looks good though
> [{quoted}](name=warpenguin555,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=3THTrhmb,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-08-30T19:24:42.395+0000) > > Why would I ever want gathering storm when games rarely last 30 minutes? Ultimore looks good though With the meta with 3 tanks an adc farming for 40 minutes we gonna see more of the long games IMO.
: Nothing's in quite yet but live gameplay's looking to either buff Rengar or Warrior. We're not sure which yet (or if it'll happen for 7.18).
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Novalas,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=gbAKMKGa,comment-id=00180000,timestamp=2017-08-24T23:58:31.525+0000) > > Nothing's in quite yet but live gameplay's looking to either buff Rengar or Warrior. We're not sure which yet (or if it'll happen for 7.18). Rengar doesnt feel viable its assasin warwick and i have 70% win ratio on {{champion:19}} and basicly not only items for warwick are better but champ concept is better

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