Ifneth (NA)
: Taric is a big, muscly, fabulous guy who fits the stereotype of an attractive gay man.
> [{quoted}](name=Ifneth,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JAp0mcAL,comment-id=000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T15:06:09.771+0000) > > Taric is a big, muscly, fabulous guy who fits the stereotype of an attractive gay man. And ¿
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uxl0it1i,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2019-02-19T14:26:08.166+0000) > > Because designs that weren't made for the sexy perfect looks are now being transformed into that. And people don't want the same copy paste thing for 10 years almost. They said the same thing the last 3 female champions/reworks came out, are all female champions overly sexualized? is Illaoi to sexual because she shows her arm? Her arm is muscular and could appeal to men sexually, so let's delete her. Evelynn is the embodiment of lust, TOO SEXUAL, deleted, NIdalee is literally a wild cat/human tribe leader, so she probably grew up wearing next to nothing in the WILD, but too sexual DELETED etc... at this rate we'll have no champions. Kayle is an archangel, I highly doubt she needed ALL of her armor, I mean she is an angel.
There is a big line between the examples you gave and this situation. And Kayle was not just any angel.
: Kayle Rework/Update Looks Bad
I still can't understand why they gave her the I got hit by electricity in a cartoon hair.
: "They wanted to make Kayle more fan-servicey" really isn't the reasoning behind Kayle's new design.
Is it fanservice if they are keeping that character people attached to ¿
Wolfeur (EUW)
: "Armor is an integral part of Kayle's identity"
Wow didn't know that Kayle changed so many splash arts through the years.
Phhase (NA)
: So about that Kayle redesign
They clearly didn't care about the Kai'sa situation since they gave us Sylas and now... Kayle.
: MTG does good angels in armor, just take inspiration from them for kayle
Phridolin (EUW)
: It looks dope, brings her more in line with her sister, and shows that she doesn’t need as much protection as a normal human being. I dig it. #opinions
I understand that one would find it cool. But the things you said don't describe Kayle, the one that was shown to us in 2009.
: How is this an example of sex sells when the new Kayle is fucking hideous.
> [{quoted}](name=I love cowboys,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uxl0it1i,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-02-19T08:11:01.517+0000) > > How is this an example of sex sells when the new Kayle is fucking hideous. Its showing what one would what to see.
: cant help but feel people are blowing this up bigger than it needs to be i dont get the "Sex sells" argument when most of the female character in the game are sorta like that to start with why is kayle any different?
> [{quoted}](name=Captainn Ginyu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uxl0it1i,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-19T04:04:38.340+0000) > > cant help but feel people are blowing this up bigger than it needs to be > > i dont get the "Sex sells" argument when most of the female character in the game are sorta like that to start with why is kayle any different? Because designs that weren't made for the sexy perfect looks are now being transformed into that. And people don't want the same copy paste thing for 10 years almost.
Ifneth (NA)
: Because obviously gay people wouldn’t want fanservice, right Taric?
Have no idea what you are trying to say but okay...
: Okay can yall calm the f#@! down
To critique an art you need to see it, not play it or what ever.
Krytoric (NA)
: Is it some sort of meme that people are saying Kayle is over sexualized?
Everything in this world would be pretty cool if we didn't take a closer look.
Käcey (NA)
: Made a screenshot armor edit of the kayle rework
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Riot please give us this Kayle
When I saw that I got so excited for a sec. But then It hit me that its just a fan design.
: Can we ever see an example of jhin's "art"
I imagined his art like something from Googleing brutally slaughtered bodies.
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T01:53:49.992+0000) > > Where did you expect it to do ¿ Where do you expect this to go ¿ Well, people continue kicking Kai'Sa's design even now, while Sylas is barely mentioned. You do the math.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T02:05:14.339+0000) > > Well, people continue kicking Kai'Sa's design even now, while Sylas is barely mentioned. You do the math. Still that doesn't make it "go" somewhere...
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:54:23.929+0000) > > It definitely was something. It went nowhere, died down faster than it started and is only brought up in context "See, people get buttmad about men too". If it is something, it is an illustration of duality. And don't get me started on Kayn.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T01:31:24.896+0000) > > It went nowhere, died down faster than it started and is only brought up in context "See, people get buttmad about men too". If it is something, it is an illustration of duality. And don't get me started on Kayn. Where did you expect it to do ¿ Where do you expect this to go ¿
: This design looks so much better for kayle
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:38:24.130+0000) > > You can go ahead and look it up there were some, And I don't deny the fact that they were way less than the Kai'sa one. The keyword is "some". Which is nothing compared to the "Kai'Sa is problematic" avalanche. It is pure hypocrisy.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:48:12.378+0000) > > The keyword is "some". Which is nothing compared to the "Kai'Sa is problematic" avalanche. It is pure hypocrisy. It definitely was something.
Jaethal (EUW)
: Kayle and Morgana look absolutly amazing. Thank you Riot. Thank you Riot August
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:32:31.474+0000) > > Define "happened" I came to the Boards in a week after his release. All I found was 1 locked thread with thousands of "It's not really the same, girls don't find that sexy AT ALL" answers and a couple of dead 20/30 comments threads. Compare it to Kai'Sa outrage.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:36:22.037+0000) > > I came to the Boards in a week after his release. All I found was 1 locked thread with thousands of "It's not really the same, girls don't find that sexy AT ALL" answers and a couple of dead 20/30 comments threads. Compare it to Kai'Sa outrage. You can go ahead and look it up there were some, And I don't deny the fact that they were way less than the Kai'sa one.
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JAp0mcAL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-18T22:35:35.360+0000) > > I don't think it's that bad I just don't want the unnecessary sexualization and want her to have bigger wings. Gays ruin everything
> [{quoted}](name=Saiyan Akali,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JAp0mcAL,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:31:57.090+0000) > > Gays ruin everything {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:24:38.387+0000) > > Pretty has many, many forms. And one of them forms is slim chicks. As much as Tumblr likes to deny it, skinny hot girls are a thing.
> [{quoted}](name=ARandomRedneck,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:26:32.611+0000) > > And one of them forms is slim chicks. As much as Tumblr likes to deny it, skinny hot girls are a thing. One of them, but not the only one
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:09:04.021+0000) > > You weren't around when Sylas got revealed I see. Nothing happened.
: And my larger point being, it ain't a crime to like pretty girls.
> [{quoted}](name=ARandomRedneck,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=wyHk9ExN,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-19T00:12:08.689+0000) > > And my larger point being, it ain't a crime to like pretty girls. Pretty has many, many forms.
Reksee (NA)
: {{champion:163}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:164}} I think those are basically the only non-sexual character designs.
> [{quoted}](name=Reksee,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=vUdaIHq3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-18T23:56:42.976+0000) > > {{champion:163}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:164}} > > I think those are basically the only non-sexual character designs. sExY is iMpoVeRInG.
: You know, people never complain about the male characters being sexualized...
Faliandra (EUW)
: kayle has a playrate of 0.40%. People are just complaining cos kayle isnt exactly the same she used to be. Most of them probably never even play her. Lmao. Just complaining for the sake of complaining. It's beyond me how people are complaining about kayle being sexualised as if she was naked when shes completely covered. So what if its a tight body suit?? Get over it. It's a game. Not real life. Not everything in a game needs to be realistic.
Playing her or not it's not giving nor taking away your right to critique.
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uxV6wbvc,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-18T23:32:28.568+0000) > > Because Morgana was ALWAYS like that. And Kayle from being the exact opposite literally, got turned into something that she is not. So, if Morgana was redesigned into wearing a full body armor or a hijab, you would be outraged?
Well, the same thing applies to her as well. But I personally think she needed work even in her old design.
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uxV6wbvc,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-02-18T23:29:35.020+0000) > > she has no excuse... So why people are so pissed about Kayle while Morgana is even more vulnerable?
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uxV6wbvc,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-18T23:30:34.114+0000) > > So why people are so pissed about Kayle while Morgana is even more vulnerable? Because Morgana was ALWAYS like that. And Kayle from being the exact opposite literally, got turned into something that she is not.
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uxV6wbvc,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-18T23:21:19.172+0000) > > Heal and become invincible for some period of time. But then what ¿ And what's Morgana's excuse then?
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uxV6wbvc,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-02-18T23:27:59.582+0000) > > And what's Morgana's excuse then? she has no excuse...
Rioter Comments
: Why have bulky armor when you're meant to fly, heal, and become invincible?
Heal and become invincible for some period of time. But then what ¿
: That's not a mistake, it's another view: To understand why Kayle has purple on her body you have to realize that Morgana has gold on hers too. They wanted to give the sisters a deeper conection and that's why both have a bit of the other on their new design. Dislike it or like It, but at least understand why they have done it.
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=L44OEEEE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-18T23:11:03.822+0000) > > That's not a mistake, it's another view: > > To understand why Kayle has purple on her body you have to realize that Morgana has gold on hers too. > They wanted to give the sisters a deeper conection and that's why both have a bit of the other on their new design. > > Dislike it or like It, but at least understand why they have done it. Yeah but to the point where your rework looks more like a new design overall its a problem. Rework is just re-working something that is already done. Not experimenting with colors for no good reason. And I am having a hard time finding the gold in Morgana's new look.
Naalith (NA)
: I know there's probably no hope for a major Kayle visual pass before release...
There is no way they are going to change her in some big way, sadly, but at least give back her iconic helmet.
: I Think Kayle Would Look Better With Blonde Hair.
: Yeah, I'm still mad about Frostbutt Irelia and how Riot ruined that. I don't see them doing this due to that customer experience of being betrayed by Riot.
> [{quoted}](name=Rune Ocarina,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6REIEMLH,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-18T22:36:42.843+0000) > > Yeah, I'm still mad about Frostbutt Irelia and how Riot ruined that. I don't see them doing this due to that customer experience of being betrayed by Riot. I don't remember the stuff about her icy skin, Would you like to remind me ¿
: Bold prediction: Helmetless Kayle will be a sort of Traditional Kayle.
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6REIEMLH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-18T22:32:39.709+0000) > > Bold prediction: Helmetless Kayle will be a sort of Traditional Kayle. You just gave me hope...
AIQ (NA)
: Kayles Design Poll
I don't think it's that bad I just don't want the unnecessary sexualization and want her to have bigger wings.
: These characters are intended to be over-the-top. They are meant to emphasize the aspects (and I'm not trying to use an innuendo) that make up their character, INCLUDING FEMININITY! Evelynn is pretty much the go-to example of this .. Her character is lust. She must be sexualized. Ahri is similar. The nine-tailed fox spirit of eastern legend takes the shape of beautiful women. Nidalee is wild. If she was wearing a sundress or battle armor she wouldn't give this impression as well as she does in scant animal skins. Yes, to some degree, it is sex appeal. .. but it is applied on both sides. Garen is the embodiment of justice, which is a very masculine trope. Draven is a showboat. This is even portrayed through other character aspects that aren't related to gender. Gragas is glutenous and Urgot is beastly, .. they are both large bodied characters. Zillean is wise and the embodiment of time, .. so he is an aged man. If you compare this with Ekko, which is a character that cheats time, he is a young boy. This is art
I absolutely agree, but where the character is the exact opposite of what its supposed to be it's not good. Like, imagine Evelynn in full armor no skin shown.
Syrinee (EUNE)
: Where can I find soundtrack used in the Kayle & Morgana teaser ?
Its going to be their login screen most likely. So probably its going to be out in a week or less.
: Unpopular opinion: The New Kayle looks good
No Riot doesn't need to represent Angels from Christian mythology they need to represent the Kayle they showed us in 2009.
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Press F to pay respects
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=uxl0it1i,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-18T22:02:56.687+0000) > > Press F to pay respects F
Zapzya (OCE)
: Kayle’s colour palate: What happened to the fire?
I am really confused with the color palette as well. Like she had 3 colors...How the hell did you manage to f it up.
Rioter Comments
: Kayle face needs some work
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: I hate them both.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ztZ0VOkM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-18T18:10:41.766+0000) > > I hate them both. we know we know.
Bultz (NA)
: Any word on the anime Skins?
One rioter said that they are coming this spring. No specific date yet.
: What are the chances of kayle and morgana vgu teaser tomorrow?
GIVE THEM TO US {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}} it's been so long...
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