: > [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=I9bmE9jy,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-23T20:49:13.786+0000) > > I like that Thresh has no interactions towards them, its like he doesnt even cares about them. but he specifically chose to remember Senna to torture Lucian further. while he does not care about anyone, he DOES care about making them suffer
He wasn't paying much attention while she was in the lantern, didn't he?
: Sylas has the potential to be the strongest in Lore
Sukishoo (NA)
: Lucian gets some personality! (Voice Over Update)
why does every new VO has to have 10 voice filters echoes and effects?
: @Riot, listen to Vlad players feedback this time (Legends of Runeterra splashes)
Phäsed (NA)
: The Old League
Wait for the 20 year anniversary. I'm telling you it's coming... just not so soon...
: Are Twisted Fate and Graves a couple
I remember an ex rioter heavily hinted toward it. But currently, nothing is stated on that.
: Oh, I understand that Senna cannot be “ordinary” by any means. But I don’t believe that that was the type of hook they should have gone for. There are so many other ways they could’ve approached this.
: I think I’m in the minority here but I find Senna’s lore unnecessarily convoluted, even more so when people start theorising that she’s connected to the Queen. This whole “infected with life” angle seems like a major cop-out. I liked Senna because she was portrayed as strong-willed and well, normal. I believed that, aside from being a Purifier/Sentinel of Light, she was just a person who had thus far resisted Thresh through the strength of her resolve and hope. That is way more “legendary” to me than someone who managed to escape unscathed because she has... life? That part still doesn’t make sense to me. There’s just nothing admirable about her, now. I wish they’d kept her a little more “normal” than trying to over-emphasise how special she is. She should be special enough by not losing her damn mind in that Lantern.
The problem with lore characters becoming champions is that they have to have some hook, if she was just a strong-willed human she wouldn't be as interesting as Diana or Ezreal for example. The problem is that she was never supposed to be a champion, she was supposed to be a crucial part of Lucian's character. That made him who he is. And by the nature of her being just a motivation, she doesn't have a strong defined character. But then they want her to be a champion and have to go back (in a way) and add to her, she is this and this but also this. And we have mess once again. Plus she has to be profitable so she has to be human so there has to be a lore ~~excuse~~ context to why she is human after being killed and trapped in the lantern as a soul. And we get non-sense at the end...
: Do you play a champion that get new skins?
The worst thing is even when these forgotten champions get skins they get some random unfitting themes, and then Riot wonders why no one bought them...
: As someone who I see complaining on the regular about lore, I'm surprised you aren't more interested and excited about Riot expanding Runeterra. Feels like you're on here just to be negative sometimes :/
Stating the facts doesn't mean I'm against or not excited about the other games. After all the games themselves won't do much about the lore, but thats another conversation.
: Dude did you miss the entire point of what I said. League of Legends IS all those games. The universe of League IS being expanded, because all the games except the FPS literally are still centered in the world that is League of Legends. Classic Summoner's Rift League is NOT "League of Legends", it is one of the main parts of it. And even that part of it HAS been expanded. How can you even claim "nothing"? Were you even here for past anniversaries? They don't normally do 10 days of awesome gifts (11 counting the freaking anniversary skin) or bring back URF. And the pre-season changes with the elemental dragon maps is completely new and interesting. Once again I gotta ask what you think an anniversary celebration even is like Jesus.
League of Legends the MOBA is not Runeterra. What we got in the world of Runeterra expanded with the games. League of Legends the top lane, the items the strategies, not demacia and ionia...
GreenLore (EUW)
: Opener seems to think that just because Neeko(who is a lesbian) likes Nidalee, that Nidalee would automatically be a lesbian too(even though Nidalee rejected joining Neekos tribe).
Kazekiba (NA)
: god Id actually hate that. making every spooky champion red for no reason. Swain went from an ultra bright pallet of greens and oceanic blues to ... generic black and grey with red lightning and an Eye of Sauron. Woohoo .... one of the many things I hate about the Swain VGU
I think it was necessary since Noxus' whole color and aesthetic changed over time. But changing Fiddle from green to red for no reason other than to avoid confusion with the Shadow Isles is kinda damaging imo.
: Stop listening to your damn player-base.
Wait the animals being lgbtq. What?
EdgeLady (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=4V2hawHR,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-10-18T10:42:15.621+0000) > > Shen and Kayn would have been great instead of Akali and Yasuo Shen just got a skin with an even smaller gap between then and now. Kayn skins take a lot of work, which people seem to forget since his first post-release skin was a legendary. That's not to say they wouldn't have been cool picks, but there are definite reasons as to why they're not there.
The reason why they aren't there and Yasuo and Akali are is that they are popular, and make a **LOT** of money.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EtfZg87A,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-17T23:22:45.616+0000) > > Yeah but both Anivia and Nunu are somewhat unpopular, definitely not MF/Ezreal levels of popular. I think a Rioter even admitted that they were a flop because Anivia and Nunu just aren't popular. > > But they also learned their lesson with the BA skins too. Its getting to the point where the skins for popular champions are becoming basic and disappointing because they can't compare to what they already have. Like, how is True Damage Akali going to top K/DA? I mean, K/DA in general is pretty bad lets be real.
And yet is Riot's most successful project to date.
: We Keep Hyping "Dark Times Ahead" and "Messengers"/"Harbringers"
EdgeLady (NA)
: Choosing Yasuo and Akali for True Damage IS disappointing, but...
Shen and Kayn would have been great instead of Akali and Yasuo
: Lunch break w/ Baz!
Is there a possibility for the updated models to be used for PC aswell?
: No, it's not, and your assertion of that statement is overly confident in itself. League of Legends is and has been for a while now a *franchise*. It's not just Summoner's Rift - that's like the franchise's "main sport". League of Legends itself is about the whole and the anniversary is celebrating the creation of the whole. Every new game other than the FPS is related to League and expanding it. You claim to be part of "the people that really love the game" but are you, if you can't understand that, or did you just hop on SR a few years ago? It seems like most of the S1 veterans here are enjoying themselves and understand what I've just explained. Look, dude, the worry over attention to League's main game is fine. We can discuss that and all sorts of opinions. But people need to stop snowballing the issue into an exaggeration and ignoring/dismissing everything that counters that opinion. Because that doesn't help solve anything - not for you, me, anybody. And seriously, you can't just insinuate that literally everything except SR isn't "real" League.
I mean like it or not they did little to nothing about League of Legends itself. Ye they expanded as a company but that does nothing to League itself.
: LoR Lux... doesn't quite look right.
Ye, they fixed her boob plate
JoeMG (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9AR9s1lA,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-10-16T11:43:17.718+0000) > > I kinda liked how League of Legends 10 year anniversary was more like Riotcon rather than a celebration and a peek into League's future. If anything this was like hey look we have other cool stuff, ignore this old tired dusty league of legends. lol Maybe what we were supposed to take away from it was that Riot has too many other projects to care about league anymore? 🤔
It really it's that. 10 year anniversary and yet nothing for league of legends. It was like a mini Blizzcon, in a way they baited people into a big celebration hyping it up with hints to something big and at the end, nothing for league expect the classic pre-season. Gained traction and attention from more people for the sake of a big promo for all the new games and projects, they are working on. Just imagine the difference if it was just a normal video of Joe talking about the new games, and now look at this. Its kinda sad about the people that really love the game, League of Legends.
: The New Fiddlesticks Design
Is it confirmed that he is going to have red instead of green as a color or its still in development?
: Any theories about Arcane?
Singed might have been shown in the trailer already same for warwick. Caitlyn's family painting was shown in their house most likely. So I think young Caitlyn is almost confirmed. Ekko is possible since he was together in a group with Vi. Camille could appear since it was hinted that she might have been the cause to why Vi was orphaned.
GreenLore (EUW)
: Her gun is actually explained to be a replica made by the black mist based on the souls of other purifiers. That sounds crazy at first, but considering that the mist is able to recreate other weapons(like Kalistas spears), its actually not that farfetched. Though I'm not a big fan of Senna being infused with this supernatural life energy either, it feels like kai'sas voidsuit all over again, being extremely convenient for this situation.
Ye but Kalista's spears are spirit-like they can appear and reappear turn into mist etc. While Senna's thing looks like a fully physical object.
GenoXx (NA)
: lol ikr? Thresh just nonchalantly decides to let her go and doesnt get mad that someone just escaped his prison. It's unrealistic even for runeterra standards.
I mean even if he wanted her back in the lantern he couldn't she is god on Runeterra. Not only did she create a whole whatever that gun bazooka thing out of nothing but she regained her body just like that, out of thin air. Literal god. Targon could never.
GenoXx (NA)
: I gotta say....Senna's lore made do a 180 for lore hype...
As non-existent my expectations were. I never even guessed that they would do the "legendary rivarly" like this. Oh, she is just fine, Lucian and Thresh are clowns, don't ask questions, onto the other set champion updates.
: How?
Well she gets killed, gets her soul reaped and trapped in the lantern with other souls. Lantern breaks, out of the god knows how many souls she is the one not only to survive but to create a full body of flesh just like that. Unscratched, as if she never was trapped in that lantern.
Jaspers (EUW)
: I'm just disappointed she isn't a pawn of Thresh secretly, alas.
I taught myself not to have any expectations when it comes to new lore and only have one wish. Make it make sense. And even that.... lol
Pale Mask (EUW)
: Give Elise her tattoos
I don't think those are tattoos. It looks like the spider magic spreading all over her body.
Terozu (NA)
: Yes. Yes really. Every champ is a Mary Sue. Lux, Kat, Ezreal, Taric, LeBlanc, Swain, Kai'Sa, Senna, Lucian, Thresh, etc. They are _legends_. They are _supposed_ to be over the top. That's the entire point.
out of the listed, only Kai'sa and now Senna are Mery sues...
Terozu (NA)
: No duh. They're all Mary Sue's. That's why they're called Legends. Legendary exploits anyone? Literally every champ is a Mary Sue in some way. That's why they're champions.
No? not really... They have to have some level of plot armor since they are the ones showing us the story but this is a whole another case.
: "Senna was never tormented in thresh's lantern lol!" absolute trash. she's a mary sue. this is the worst champ in lol history
Nooo bUT sHe iS cOoL
KnifeCat (OCE)
: As exciting as all of the new stuff is
The whole thing was riot expanding not riot fixing.
: I'm coming to realize that having expectations for Riot to adhere to their own rules of their universe (such as regarding the Shadow Isles and the dead who reside there) are pointless. Why bother with investing your self in the lore and the world if Riot's just going to thumb it because they want to do fan service?
This. at this point im just here to see where it goes. It's pointless to be invested when everything can twist and change for the purpose of a "badass" champion or plot.
: ANNNNNNND THEY ACTUALLY DID. Granted, it wasn't Lucian's love, but they did wrap up the Ruined King's love for his wife as the reason why Senna lingered as half alive/half dead because she was "infected by the life that made the Black Mist."
: Unpopular opinion but it needs to be heard
I kinda liked how League of Legends 10 year anniversary was more like Riotcon rather than a celebration and a peek into League's future. If anything this was like hey look we have other cool stuff, ignore this old tired dusty league of legends. lol
Pale Mask (EUW)
: Walkers in the Waste
WAIT hold on... am I dreaming?
Terozu (NA)
: Was in the live stream, Project F, its still in early developement. https://i.redd.it/yj5v44tz8ts31.png https://i.redd.it/56nlthtq8ts31.png
The ryze countdown is still on and this was clearly avoided in the video. soo
: Hopefully the writing is good. But y'know...Riot. Animation is gorgeous though.
I really hope they won't do something stupid. Like this is what everything was kinda leading to. Everything that was written could potentially be retconned changed etc. But when there is a final product where you can't go and rewrite, it gives me the hope that they took this to the next level and with longevity and consistency in the head.
: I know. Do black people just not become undead like everyone else in Runterra? Pyke looks nothing like the other undead, and doesn't behave like any of them, and now Senna follows that same trend. Like what was even the point of having her be dead and trapped to Thresh if she's going to simply be alive again when the lantern breaks? Glowy eyes don't make an undead apparition, and deus ex machinas make for shitty plot devices if they're going to claim that "Ahmagerd, Lucian's light gunz brought her back to life, gee wizz wow!" Like, I'm glad Senna is being added to the game, but I'm not so glad with how generic she looks. It's a Kai'Sa thing all over again, with someone who's been through pretty much a literal hell for years without any kind of obvious wear and tear. Plus, it literally took Riot 10 years to add a black woman to the game. So I don't know if I should applaud them or face palm.
Realistically she was supposed to be like Kalista, free from Thresh but trapped in the isles only free to roam during the harrowing, It's a bittersweet closure but...
: Senna is back!
I just hope they don't go with the power of love made it work.
Håppy (NA)
: As usual, skin line loses focus
The High Noon skin line is one big thematic mess. Like on paper lore-wise it may be more interesting than just cowboys and guns but visually in-game...
: I'm quite surprised to see people loving this champion.
I'm curious what makes you think that? They always had a unique following of their own.
: Is Kai’Sa ever going to get meaningfully changed?
: Please Bring Back Old Aatrox
I'm still kinda not over the fact that they simply deleted him from the game and said it's going to be a minor rework...
: Like........... Lucian voice + Senna voice= If this ain't a Lucian update and Senna champion reveal we all just got mega Punked
its Senna, but idk about anything else. It would be cool if Thresh and Luc get something but looking back at their stance with the lore being its own thing and the game being its separate thing. I wouldn't expect much...
Rigaroom (NA)
: One day, I'm gonna get perma banned because of Riot's stupid client
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AEv6ZO0O,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-10-11T23:23:34.006+0000) > > It is, a Korean leak listed her as a champion, Thresh starting with 0 souls while previously it was 1 soul (Senna's soul) > Buckle up we are having another Pantheon. sigh. I actually like pantheon though lol. I cant believe Senna was actually made a champ. at the very least, she will be twisted into some kinda ghoul loyal to Thresh, broken mind
Well, I like pantheon as well but the way he got his current point is just yikes for me. I like his themes and ideas but when the writers twist and bend the rules and laws of the universe for the sake of the champion is just a big no from me. And now the same will happen here. Somehow she will be in her human form ofc the ideal female body by Riots standards, there would be a twist like Kai'sa where she survives but the Void bla bla, Here will be she somehow survived out of the god knows how many souls (probably bcs of her will) and will controlling the mist or the mist controls her or something **cool** and **badass**
: if its Senna. god that is weak as fuck unless done in a good way. I mean very VERY good way
It is, a Korean leak listed her as a champion, Thresh starting with 0 souls while previously it was 1 soul (Senna's soul) Buckle up we are having another Pantheon.
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