: First off, I checked and you're a Yasuo main. So of course you're going to try to put down every person who supports the notion that the champion needs nerfs / reworking. > [{quoted}](name=DogIsGod,realm=EUNE,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=zRTMBfXB,comment-id=000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-26T21:40:23.892+0000) > > So you're telling me that we should balance the game around Plat-? Only in extreme cases where that champion is too nuanced for regular players to learn in the time they have available. Just because it is couterable and beatable with high skill does not mean it is balanced or healthy for the game. And in this case, that burden of skill is too much to ask of casual players. When a champion requires hours upon hours of time to learn how to counter and beat, the knowledge to do so becomes inaccessible to players who don't have all day every day free to go study that. If anything, Riot reworking Yasuo will likely increase his viability at high levels of play while making him less oppressive at lower levels of play. I don't see anything wrong with that.
Again. Not the champion's fault, your fault. Learn to play. Hur Dur, I can't play so nerf these champions, hur dur. Yes, I'm a Yasuo main with over 800k points on him and I have been playing him since Season 5 towards 6. I have been playing the game since season 4, I thought Yasuo looked fun and I was always losing to him, so I decided to pick him up and play a few games with him to maybe better understand the champion and how I should play against him. I eventually started maining him. Instead of complaining that a champion should be nerfed for low elos, learn to play, get high elo and play that said champion. Riot clearly stated they balance the game around Plat+. If it were otherwise this whole game would be a shitfest. I want more high skill ceiling and floor champions, I don't want Annie-like champions. Low elo players need to adapt, not high elo players. Now, since you seem to understand this I don't understand why you keep responding.
: > [{quoted}](name=DogIsGod,realm=EUNE,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=zRTMBfXB,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-26T18:48:32.336+0000) > > Hmm. Just a hunch. I'm offended that you would take such an arrogant and superior tone. It's rude to imply that people just suck and don't know what they are talking about. > [{quoted}](name=DogIsGod,realm=EUNE,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=zRTMBfXB,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-07-26T18:48:32.336+0000) > > Interestingly, no high elo player has problems with Yasuo. Maybe it's just the bad players? I'm well aware of this fact. Yasuo places a high burden of knowledge and effort on opponents in order to play against him. This is not a problem for highly skilled players, but it's too much to ask of casual players.
So you literally just agreed with me, but your counter argument is that it places a burden on casual players? Riot balances around Plat+. Who cares about anybody's opinion below that. They should be adapting to High Elo and learn how to play in order to get there, because if you can't get higher elo, well, guess what, it's not a champion's problem, it's yours. So you're telling me that we should balance the game around Plat-? Could you even imagine? lol.
: You missed the point. It feels lousy to play against it. That has nothing to do with whether or not that player has played as Yasuo.
Interestingly, no high elo player has problems with Yasuo. Maybe it's just the bad players? Hmm. Just a hunch.
: well... i'm confused on how this guy landed in this game.
Ralanr (NA)
: I don't even have a problem personally with it dude. Don't make assumptions.
Then why are you asking for a nerf on the ability that makes the most sense on him? There's so much else to pick on.
Ragingg (EUW)
: Random flame for being bronze 👌 Personally the biggest issue imo is how lousy it feels to play against especially in close quarters as he can stand on top of it usually
And your know this because of the countless hours you've spent playing the champion, right?
: He's just a cancerous champion. Too much mobility and disengage. Lots of damage. Not enough windows to engage him. His Q is down! Time to go in! No, wait. He still has his shield. His shield is down! Time to go in. No, wait. His Q is up.
And your know this because of the countless hours you've spent playing the champion, right?
: Passive: 100/75/50 units to gain a shield. Shield; 80 - 240 health for 1 second (same as a support's base shield values). W: Wall lasts for 1/2/3/4/5 seconds There you go.
Passive doesn't sound bad. But the wall would last too long at max level. Maybe 2/2.5/3/3.5/4?
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: July 25
@meddler, I have made a thread in which I mention my thoughts on Yasuo if you guys would like to take a look: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/q4Fn8bhG-semi-rework-my-thoughts-on-yasuo
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Ralanr (NA)
: Maybe I know a lot, maybe I know a little. So far just saying my rank doesn't actually tell me what's wrong with my idea.
Learn to play around it maybe? Don't tell me there's actually good players in your rank that actually use Wind Wall properly.
: If you go through with those changes can you at least consider reducing the duration of wind wall at early ranks? My though process is Yasuo should use his wall early as a Fiora W to react to incomming damage, rather than deny CS to the enemy laner or deny trade damage
Remove his whole kit while you're at it? amirite? Great ideas guys :D You know so much about champion balance. wow. Riot, give these guys some places to work at.
Ralanr (NA)
: Though I'd argue the main problem with his windwall is duration and size. Change how that works and it might be healthier.
You're bronze 1. What do you even know about champion balance? Riot balances around Plat+.
Tentaku (EUNE)
: @Rito Why is Yasuo still not disabled?
He was not disabled when he dealt 1 less auto ever since his release, why would he be disabled now? Double standards much?
: His crit build is just fine at doing damage, what do you mean?
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: rofl chill okay? I have never heard this b4. Please calm down.
You won't hear it in your games, just go to any post about a yasuo bug.
: the funny thing is, I have never heard this in any of my games. So it's just a vague post about one occasion, chill okay?
One occasion? Have you ever seen the comments on a YouTube video, reddit post or boards post of Yasuo auto attack bugs getting downvoted to oblivion and the classic comments: https://gyazo.com/f7d1048faa048a55a5f04bb2e981ba67
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: "Riven has been struggling against too many top laners for too long" - 6.17 patch notes
50.9% top Plat+ 52.3% top Dia+ She sure is struggling Rito :^)
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: Remove 1 letter from a champions ability. What does it do now?
: Bruiser Yasuo has no weaknesses tbh - and I blame Fervor.
Just remove fervor and trinity force and all of our problems would be gone. No, but seriously for some reason Trinity Force always finds a time and a place to make every single champion using it feel like a greek god.
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: Tank Yasuo is Cancer
Kog'Maw is pretty much in the same state as Yasuo right now. He builds tank and deals even more damage than Yasuo, but my thread I posted about him got downvoted. God, I hate humans.
woobeee (NA)
: When you know your main is OP and it's free this week
Ratbert (NA)
: Sick 0 hp 0 armor "tank build" with boots, 2 bruiser items and veil. None of these are dedicated tank items.
Yes. Because having 205 MR and 2.2k HP while dashing out immense damage totally doesn't make you a tank. Why are people on this forum so stubborn?
: Cool. And that makes you right that those are tank items how again? Whit's End: on-hit item Maw: an AD item Mercs: boots, which are not limited to any one class Banshee's: a generic defense item that doesn't favor tanks more then anyone else. It's a good universal MR item if the enemy team relies on one key CC to start fights. So please, with your supposed god-like knowledge, tell me: on what earth do those items make a "tank" build?
: Not one of those is a tank item. Banshee's is a defensive item, yes, but that doesn't make it solely for tanks. Hell, before this season, banshee's was one of like 2 last item defensives for ADCs
Facepalm commences. That's right boys, this guy who is 25 divisions below me is telling it as it is.
: shaddup ;) I'm making excuses so he doesn't get nerfed :3
You'd still be bronze, it's ok.
: It might just be a random fluctuation in the win rate. A week or two ago he had a normal win rate.
Shadòw (EUW)
: That's not the prob. The prob is if he simply goes on-hit and as and gets protected.
Stats don't lie. 56% win-rate. End of discussion.
: Even then it doesn't work. Kog has a high win rate because atm only dedicated mains play him. Look at his play rate. Very low. Meaning only the people who play him a shit ton, therefore have a higher chance of winning, play him in ranked.
http://champion.gg/champion/KogMaw 51% 1-5 games :^). Cool way of trying to keep your freelo.
Shadòw (EUW)
: i've never seen a tank kog maw
Wits end, mercs, banshee, maw.
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Meddler (NA)
: He is looking a bit out of line yeah. We'll likely trim a bit of power sometime in the next couple of patches. Not sure what yet, one of the first things we'll look at though is whether tank builds are inappropriately effective.
Meddler, you may not be the sharpest knife in the counter, but don't you think IT'S THE TANK ITEMS BEING TOO OP?! Since everybody is abusing them?
: Did they not fix the Q/auto bug where you get locked out after ult and E+Q? That thing's been around forever and I was hoping they finally got rid of it.
I was so excited to hear about the bug fixes, only to realize they are more frequent now lol
Voalitive (OCE)
: I think it either means my feels when, or my face when. I might be wrong though....
MFW stands for"My Face When" ^-^
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: Why not? What happened???????
Ultimate duration reduced by a whole lot.
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Mithu (NA)
: Not sure what you mean, but thats how his WW works. Its not a spell you're throwing at him, but a minion so the WW wont stop it. In theory this would also happen with Sion tossing a minion at Yas.
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: Am I the only one who can't stand Yasuo players?
As a fellow Yasuo main with almost 400k mastery points I feel highly offended. Wanna take this to court?
: QSS not only cancels Yasuo's ult suspension...
Talked about this on Reddit. Got downvoted into oblivion. Way to go, anti-yasuo tards.
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