: > [{quoted}](name=Flavije,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T21:28:37.744+0000) > > Then this solution is also a problem. So for example i can make a new account and after a while i gift someone stuff for 50 Euro and then i do chargeback. What would happen next is that person would have to pay 50 Euro to get his account back and maybe that person cannot afford that. Not If they dont use the rp and contact support.
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-18T08:07:13.544+0000) > > Not If they dont use the rp and contact support. What if it looks like a normal gift? Nothing suspicious for example: I can play with some guy and then i lie "i really like playing with you and you are very good" and then i do a chargeback? Edit: And it doesnt need to be 50 Euro. It can be 10 Euro for example. There are some people who never spent any money on this game and someone can gift them small amount and they will think oh how nice of him. Few days later "account suspended" and the guy cant get his account back.
: > [{quoted}](name=Flavije,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T17:50:27.431+0000) > > They shouldnt allow this chargeback. What are they doing is not a solution and more people can get banned. Im financially weak and now it hurts because for what i saved was just taken away from me that fast. > > Now new players will have to read all around what they must do or they will get suspended. Riot is just powerful with their everything and makes everyone defenseless Imagine this situation: someone has a Main Account. This Person creates a new Account and from the new account they Gift rp to their Main account. Now they buy a bunch of stuff on the Main Account. Then they do a chargeback from their new Account. If Riot bans the new Account, they got a Lot of stuff without paying. Riot bans the Account with the fraudulent rp since that is the Account that has the basicly stolen goods on it.
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T20:46:43.901+0000) > > Imagine this situation: someone has a Main Account. This Person creates a new Account and from the new account they Gift rp to their Main account. Now they buy a bunch of stuff on the Main Account. Then they do a chargeback from their new Account. If Riot bans the new Account, they got a Lot of stuff without paying. > > Riot bans the Account with the fraudulent rp since that is the Account that has the basicly stolen goods on it. Then this solution is also a problem. So for example i can make a new account and after a while i gift someone stuff for 50 Euro and then i do chargeback. What would happen next is that person would have to pay 50 Euro to get his account back and maybe that person cannot afford that.
: > [{quoted}](name=Flavije,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T17:35:51.016+0000) > > I knew nothing, i was defenseless. Everything seemed normal. I hope you understand what i mean. > Well they should ban the account that was gifted from and not gifted to. Maybe make some kind of protection from chargeback. > Pretty much someone found me as a target and now its my fault. I regret spending money on this game just because of this. They are potectiong themself from mass fraud. Contact support. Thats all there is to do.
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T17:38:30.370+0000) > > They are potectiong themself from mass fraud. Contact support. Thats all there is to do. They shouldnt allow this chargeback. What are they doing is not a solution and more people can get banned. Im financially weak and now it hurts because for what i saved was just taken away from me that fast. Now new players will have to read all around what they must do or they will get suspended. Riot is just powerful with their everything and makes everyone defenseless
: I am pretty sure they only do this if they know that the "gifter" and the one being "gifted" are the same person. Are you sure you're telling us the whole story here?
> [{quoted}](name=Stardûst,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-17T17:33:39.536+0000) > > I am pretty sure they only do this if they know that the "gifter" and the one being "gifted" are the same person. > > Are you sure you're telling us the whole story here? Yes, im telling you the whole story.
: > [{quoted}](name=Flavije,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T17:20:44.274+0000) > > I did not get a lot of RP. Before that i already spent some money on skins with my phone since that was only way and i had total of 20 skins. > The RP that i got was not even close to 300 Euro. Mabye it was 50 Euro worth of skins but they are saying i need to pay 300. > > Edit: They should fix/change or something this gifting system or this "chargeback" because anyone can be a target even for small amount of money. Thing is, if you didnt spend any of the RP, they could probably just take it away if you tell them it wasnt you. Now that you spend it its complicated. My advice would be contact support and tell them some unknown source gifted you. When you get a answer stay on your point that you had nothing to do with it and ask them if they can remove the RP and the content you got with it. Best case, they remove the stuff. Worst case, they tell you they dont do that. Thing is if they didnt take this stuff seriously people could try to fraud them by creating accounts gifting their mains and then charging back.
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T17:25:28.848+0000) > > Thing is, if you didnt spend any of the RP, they could probably just take it away if you tell them it wasnt you. Now that you spend it its complicated. > My advice would be contact support and tell them some unknown source gifted you. When you get a answer stay on your point that you had nothing to do with it and ask them if they can remove the RP and the content you got with it. > Best case, they remove the stuff. > Worst case, they tell you they dont do that. > Thing is if they didnt take this stuff seriously people could try to fraud them by creating accounts gifting their mains and then charging back. I knew nothing, i was defenseless. Everything seemed normal. I hope you understand what i mean. Well they should ban the account that was gifted from and not gifted to. Maybe make some kind of protection from chargeback. Pretty much someone found me as a target and now its my fault. I regret spending money on this game just because of this.
: > [{quoted}](name=Flavije,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T17:16:48.011+0000) > > I did not write to support. I did use RP but i dont know if it was mistake or purpose to get me suspended. This is definetly problematic. You can compair it to RL getting money to your account without knowing where its from. If you start spending it you can get into trouble, same happend here.
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-17T17:17:46.721+0000) > > This is definetly problematic. You can compair it to RL getting money to your account without knowing where its from. If you start spending it you can get into trouble, same happend here. I did not get a lot of RP. Before that i already spent some money on skins with my phone since that was only way and i had total of 20 skins. The RP that i got was not even close to 300 Euro. Mabye it was 50 Euro worth of skins but they are saying i need to pay 300. Edit: They should fix/change or something this gifting system or this "chargeback" because anyone can be a target even for small amount of money.
: Idk what is the best thing to do, but did you imediatly write to the support when you got the RP and did you use any of it?
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6wOdrHfp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-17T17:12:55.645+0000) > > Idk what is the best thing to do, but did you imediatly write to the support when you got the RP and did you use any of it? I did not write to support. I did use RP but i dont know if it was mistake or purpose to get me suspended.
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