: Do int feeders get banned?
not really , riot does pay attention to the problem but does not give resources to develop system that actually works. If someone inted you once i can guarantee you for about 99% he will not get punished for this.
Xalvian (NA)
: fuck autofill, here's a better option
Ok lets implement 1hour que lines for those who dont want to autofill because why should we play 35-40 minutes while filled into support while you just wait 10 minutes . It should be fair right ? so lets make it 45 minutes just so it will be as high as a game time but it will be every game. Or just lets do a special que for snowflakes that cant autofill once in like 10-15 games ( if not more for me its like every 15 games ) and you will wait 2-3 hours . Just fucking suck it up and play support you get autofill protection after. We can argue about autofill protection being for more games but autofill really helps with adjusting que times considering there is 4 types of games ( draft , blind pic, solo ranked, flex ranked ) the amount of support players is not sustainable so making it worse for whole community is bad
Dynikus (NA)
: absolutely, I would be pretty upset. I can manage to keep my composure while upset though. when trying to deal with customer service to solve an issue, cussing them out is never a good idea.
cussing them is over the line but on the other hand its frustrating to deal with riot support. I dealth with them myself multiple times , most of the times i get pre-written responses that dont adress the issue, next the staff there is mostly under qualified ( people that do not play the game at all , i had experience with a girl that was lvl 25 never played a game vs non co-op ) . Then we have the problem that Riot "rules" are not exactly rules. They use stupid terms like "common sense " which is not exactly specific etc. which makes it even more annoying to deal because you dont exactly know what you did wrong / right because there are no examples of the behaviour ( i literally pointed an example from riot site to a riot employee yet she refused to take it into consideration even tho it was above 90% simmilar ) And the most annoying of them all. The "we dont reverse punishments ". Many people are getting banned/suspended/punished, most of them are banned/suspended for a reason ( we can easily assume the vast majority ) but there are people who are wrongly banned. But chill riot does not care, support staff does not care (mostly ). If you combine this with no specific rules as well as poor understanding of the game by riot employees you have situation where a not so smart Rioter will interpret the rules for the sole purpose of not lifting your punishment :) PS: its easy to judge someones behavior when you are not in his situation, people on boards seem to forget that often :)
: One, already lost respect the moment you said no sightstone. Supporting does mean dominant map control with vision **and** sweeping to clear enemy vision. You are handicapping your team. Two, yes you deserve it. You're acting immature. There's nothing to gain by wasting that time in chat. Just play. And before you give me any remarks about the sightstone, please show me where the high elo players, especially in competitive are not building one. We both know they do and it's a bad habit to not. If you're a good player you need to work on good habits.
" you are acting immature " as an argument against someone in a computer game made for kids . fuck me that fucking hilarious. As much as i would like to see only most sofisticated gentlemens playing this game , its made for kids. Dont act like being immature should be against the rules or get the stick out of your ass and chill a bit mate.
Dynikus (NA)
: >Lots of salt included, for good reason. Not really, no. It just makes you seam irate and makes people not want to work with you.
would you mind being hacked and banned ? its the only way to check if you are not another hypocrite on boards
Kei143 (NA)
: you should stop botting/ buying accounts.
https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=an+actual+chimp this is his account. cant see any bot games and i dont think this account was bought too. Plz stop accusing someone without evidence. It's not the first case people are mad they do not get the evidence of them breaking the rules . And plz dont make me start with this " we cant provide evidence because it may break our investigation methods " even in this case, show the guy the game where the "bots " were used. thats all he wants.
Rioter Comments
: He was not banned for picking non meta. Are u guys even able to read and understand what is written? Or do you just need to vent off "elo hell" by blindly raging on riot?
=.= he was banned for "stealing someones role " even tho he did not do it. Yea i am able to read, and i deffo understand what is written. I also have ability to think and use my brain properly so i dont believe shit that is written if its piece of crap -.- this rioter literally said that you cant be banned for non meta picks yet the guy playing smite nunu support was banned -.- he did not steal anyones role , he had his way of playing the game. is it good way ? prolly not , but are there any rules that say its not cool ? no there are not. The argument about common sense is even more stupid. Using my common sense i thing This lovely rioter should be fired , is he fired already ? i've been told common sense is a rule here :D
: Here we are again! The case of_ “Unusual Pick that Throws A Game on Its head”_ vs _“The Teammates going WTF Is Going On”_. [If you’re just tuning in we previously covered this topic with a similar case in December: “Support Singed isn't bannable, but that's not the point”. ](http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/79aGu3wR-support-singed-isnt-banable-but-thats-not-the-point?comment=006b) We feel that the situation between these two edge cases are very similar. But it’s obvious we need to keep updating a few processes to smooth out any rare repeats in the future. And rare is what we’d call this; it’s a very unique edge case that seems to only present itself once every few months among thousands of audits that we process. Let’s re-iterate our stance from before: **Q: Can I get banned for choosing a champion or strategy that is outside the current meta?** A: 100% no. Choosing a champion or strategy outside of the current meta is not a factor we take into account when reviewing accounts. On any given day tens of thousands of players are making unusual picks in the game and they’ll never receive penalties in any form. **Q: So why does this issue keep coming up? What makes it different?** A: Riot Gromp said it best in the previous post when they stated: “...common sense and good sportsmanship say that experimenting players need to clearly communicate intent and win conditions to their teammates.” League of Legends is a team game and sometimes the biggest challenge can be coordinating with 4 other strangers who share a common goal; victory. If a player is going to rewrite the rules for the rest of their team then there is more pressure to properly communicate to everyone what they want the plan to be, and what they think everyone should do to achieve it. But wait! Communication doesn’t stop after you press the Enter button on your keyboard; and that’s where we saw a problem in this particular case. All of us need to be aware of the difference of communicating “with” someone vs. communicating “at” someone. _Telling your team what you’re going to do and then ignoring them isn’t really working with them it’s holding them hostage_. Telling your team what you want to do and actually working towards a common plan is a central part to playing any team based game. In this case what we observed was an expert Nunu counter-jungler throwing the meta on it’s head with a respectable win rate of 53%. While pretty impressive on it’s own, we also found that nearly 50% of their games were reported by teammates as frustrating and unfun. Keep in mind, this isn’t just teammates in losing games, this is teammates across all of his games; victories included. The message was pretty clear to us, this player is serious about_ Making Nunu Great Again_ but they are leaving a trail of dissatisfaction, frustration, and anger in their wake. Winning is not the end all be all of League. We want players to have fun but not at the expense of teammates. Ideally this means players will coordinate among themselves in a given match and react to the unique circumstances they end up in. If a player is consistently forcing “their vision” on the rest of the team **and **refusing to adapt to their needs we reserve the right to intervene. That’s what happened here (and before with the Singed case); players cried out how terrible the experience was for them and we intervened. Moving forward we’re going to keep updating our processes for these edge cases. We will still be on the lookout for situations where a player is creating a really negative experience for everyone else and we will intervene when necessary. In this case it’s undeniable that TakeTheDraw wants to win even if their approach leaves a lot to be desired. The effects on others in his games were enough for us to lock the account and we stand by that. But our agents were not properly prepared with a process to handle this edge case when they wrote in and that is on me. I will be working with the team to clarify an escalation process that emphasizes clearer feedback and opens the door for ban reductions if we believe that someone can make changes to their play style allowing them to continue crushing the meta but not at the expense of their teammates.
fucking idiotic response as always , can't expect more from rioter... you wont get banned for playing non meta picks but this guy picked non meta pick and got suspended -.- because "common sense " lol my common sense says you should be fired from your job did it already work ? if you want rules to be respected make them specific , dont use things like "common sense " in a description because your common sense is not my common sense. And reverse this guy suspension because there is no rules against nunu smite support. The only thing you shown with your post is that its not necessary to have more than 3 braincells to be a rioter -.-
: > [{quoted}](name=GoleBilon,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GixAdwKE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-02-17T19:33:19.271+0000) > > yea i use it , but im not talking about simple "kys " someone told me to "killl yourself you fucking f*****" , so i mute him play its w/e for me. 5 minutes later i see it again and from context its easy to understand that my team was arguing with this idiot and they respond with the same behaviour. > > I dont mind flame , i know where my mute button is and i aint no snowflake who cant take some toxicity. My problem is its not the same . Telling someone to commit suicide is not just casual toxic behaviour. People can have their issues outside of this game and telling them to end their life is way more toxic than any other behaviour you can see. I cant stand situation where people treat it the same way like every other punishable behaviour. Its the same as racial slurs and hate speech. All of those behaviours should be punished on sight , not after someone shown repetetive wrong behaviour. > > Situation in which smn can tell you to end yourself and he is certain he wont be punished is not healthy for this community. We have one punishment system for multiple offenses and it should not work like that. grow up special snowflake, its a chat offence, but nothing should be punished higher than anything, get off the computer if you dont like people having free speech.
you are special snowflake if you are so sensitive you cant hold your nerves in a video game, if you cant do it plz get off the computer :) its not free speech its literally punished by law you dumb kid -.-
Cocho (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GoleBilon,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GixAdwKE,comment-id=000100030000,timestamp=2017-02-18T01:33:06.806+0000) > > advising someone to commit suicide is punishable by law in most countries. I found that interesting and I decided to do some research on that. In USA, it varies by state. Some, its take more than just verbal assistance, and in others just telling someone to 'kys' isn't enough (it can be just verbal though). There was a hard fought case where someone actually gave the person info on where to buy the things they need to kill themselves. That person was put in prison, but just kys wouldn't hold up lol. It takes some special circumstance for you to make a case on it, or even getting a jury to convince that the person him to actually kill themselves. Like just imagine it. A person gets arrested for it, does he get taken to another state? In he put in trial in his own state? The person is dead, so he can't even testify for himself. The guy defending can say he didn't actually think it would happen. His lawyer would bring up all these other things that happened in the victim's life. His relationships, his career at that point, drugs? Etc. He could even bring up muting them? XD lol probably He would literally have to say some bizarre crazy shit in the span of a 40 min game, for this case to even be taken to trial lol. I really do doubt you could put someone in jail saying only 'kys' in any country lol. You need to bully them. You need to make them.
man you have some troubles understanding me , i did not bring it as an example because i want them in jail or w/e . I bring it as an example of behaviour that is disgusting and unacceptable . It is more gamebreaking than simple "fuck you useless mid " this way it should be punished faster , more efficient and the sample of games where it shows should be smaller. http://www.patientsrightscouncil.org/site/assisted-suicide-state-laws/ ... btw some people got 20 years in jail for this ... 20 fucking years ( yea their role was bigger tho ) yet some people still think its acceptable behaviour and who cares.. fucking mindless creatures -_-
: I sent 2 knee jerk reaction emails: **1:** May I please have a chat restriction instead? Why do I have a 14 day ban without even seeing the "sometimes you have a bad day" screen. I was NOT intentionally feeding. When I said "nice feedu" that was in reference to someone else not me. **2:** In the past I had received a 10 game restrict. If you give me the 25 game restrict I promise I will not use chat to talk anyone in that fashion again, but if I'm now 1 step away from losing my account for good I won't feel comfortable using chat at all. Thanks for your time and consideration. **Then I sent a calm one like GoleBilon suggested (thanks m8): ** Hey Aurelise, Sorry if my replies seemed brusque earlier. I'm just still confused by what exactly warranted skipping the 25 chat restrict punishment. Is it possible for you to reconsider the 14 day ban? I don't intentionally feed or throw games so I'm confused as to why that was listed as a behavior I'm being punished for. Are there any examples you can show me of this? Sometimes I am the weakest link on a team, but aren't we all sometimes? I don't give up and stop playing even when I'm not doing well and being berated by the other players. I'm confused about being punished for these actions that I don't feel like I've committed. I admit that my chat while negative isn't horrendous hate speech that would warrant an escalated punishment. As I said in my previous email I'll no longer engage in back talk to the people that are using homophobic slurs against me, if you could see your way clear to giving me the stage 2 punishment instead of the 14 day ban I'd really appreciate it. Thanks again for your time. We'll see what happens.
np mate hope it will get resolved in a positive manner. Either way remember its not worth loosing time on chat even if you respond to someone, yea it's hard to not tell an idiot he is an idiot but its better if he realises it himself someday :) btw: post their response im actually curious what will they tell you i had unpleasant memories with riot support myself :D
: > [{quoted}](name=GoleBilon,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GixAdwKE,comment-id=000100030000,timestamp=2017-02-18T01:33:06.806+0000) > > advising someone to commit suicide is punishable by law in most countries. In my country you report someone for telling you to commit suicide, you will get chastised for wasting police time, and they'll probably have a good laugh about it among themselves. > Bullying is not right, im prolly bigger and stronger than you would you like me to push you around ? like whatever why would you care that much that i punched you in a face few times in fucking high school -.- And again where I'm from, people teach the young to stand up for themselves. If you're the kind of person that runs to authority to protect you every time you allow someone to walk all over you, well bro, you're gonna have a real tough time. You're not gonna have much of a life if you can't stand up for yourself. Most people despise weakness over here and you will get treated with a lot of contempt if you prove yourself weak.
http://www.patientsrightscouncil.org/site/assisted-suicide-state-laws/ you know your country less than some guy from europe ( assuming you are indeed from NA not just playing on NA ) your logic is pathetic btw. we are way past "survival of the fittest " times and if you want to act like an animal feel free to but we will cage you like an animal too , i can bring you nice leash tho i think red may be your colour. People developed rules to prevent idiots from living in society. People that break those rules are out. There is freedom of speech, we can argue we can call each other names but there are certain restrictions on that. if you want to live like a undeveloped animal i can freely pay for your one way ticket to some deserted island it will be my pleasure to see you learn how to stand by yourself there with creatures with your level of social skills :)
: To be fair, i am still wondering when **our** Tribunal comes back. Making a new one is not that hard to be unexploitable.
tribunal was on average more severe in giving punishments and this actually is against my beliefs. I do belive that as much as annoying negativity is , i can cope with it and i dont want every frustrated player permabanned. I dont mind it i know others do tho but i think solving this problem requires work from both side and a lil more understanding. I think to this point this system is ok. The problem is that it treats behaviours equal. And it shouldnt be like that :/ Hyper toxic beahviours should be punished diffrent/faster/more severe than just simple " you dumb fuck "
: Wow you actually don't deserve a ban at all. And if anyone thinks you do, i don't know what to say to them.
i mean he was harassing others , calling them clowns etc. i wouldnt even report him because its obv tilt but on the other hand according to rules its punishable -_-
: > [{quoted}](name=GoleBilon,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=XZFRjdQ6,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-02-18T01:37:14.439+0000) > > i dont think this ( if thats all they shown ) should make you skip a tier. It is indeed negative behaviour and you are harassing your teammates ( happens w/e ) but its not behaviour that can make you skip tiers. > > Ask for explanation why this behaviour made you skip tiers, and ask for the punishment you deserve. If thats all they gave you it shouldnt get you punished this severe and skip all the way to suspension. > > > You mentioned inting , inting can actually get you all the way to 14 day suspension instantly you can search for game that they think you inted in and show your arguments that you didnt ( dmg share , kill participation preferably some replays but its unlikely you have them ) Here's the entire email: Hey Surr20plz, I'm Aurelise and I'm part of the Riot Support team. I've taken a look into your account and saw that it was triggered for a manual review. Upon review, we found patterns of negative behavior and verbal abuse. You also have a tendency of giving up early in the game and intentionally feeding. This is absolutely unacceptable. We have placed a two week suspension on the account. It's possible to get a permanent suspension if your behavior doesn't change. Here are a few examples of toxic chat from your games: [22:40] Surr20plz (Poppy): shes just sitting in bush waiting for people [22:50] Surr20plz (Poppy): nice feedu [24:11] Surr20plz (Poppy): here we go [26:04] Surr20plz (Poppy): top feeds then poaches camps and spams pings [27:33] Surr20plz (Poppy): what about me [27:37] Surr20plz (Poppy): u wot m8 [27:39] Surr20plz (Poppy): lol ok kiddo [27:44] Surr20plz (Poppy): my winrate is higher than urs [27:45] Surr20plz (Poppy): ok [27:46] Surr20plz (Poppy): lolol [27:52] Surr20plz (Poppy): XD [28:10] Surr20plz (Poppy): rofl this kid is trolling and he blames me [28:18] Surr20plz (Poppy): ur hilarious [29:13] Surr20plz (Poppy): LOLVEL [29:19] Surr20plz (Poppy): 46% winrate!? [28:18] Surr20plz (Master Yi): are u joking kid? [28:22] Surr20plz (Master Yi): just scroll up [28:26] Surr20plz (Master Yi): im not repeatingmyself [28:32] Surr20plz (Master Yi): read it again [28:35] Surr20plz (Master Yi): repeat what i wrote [28:44] Surr20plz (Master Yi): i hate kids [28:48] Surr20plz (Master Yi): remuting all [31:37] Surr20plz (Master Yi): omg 1-8 jinx [17:19] Surr20plz (Warwick): thats whyy ur here [17:26] Surr20plz (Warwick): XD [17:29] Surr20plz (Warwick): ur neg 1 tower [17:30] Surr20plz (Warwick): kid [17:49] Surr20plz (Warwick): lol [18:40] Surr20plz (Warwick): 0 wards bot [18:56] Surr20plz (Warwick): 4 after i say it [19:00] Surr20plz (Warwick): too alte [19:05] Surr20plz (Warwick): yw [19:11] Surr20plz (Warwick): no u [19:15] Surr20plz (Warwick): 5 deth guy [19:21] Surr20plz (Warwick): 6 deth soryr [19:33] Surr20plz (Warwick): tries to poach camp and fails kid [21:39] Surr20plz (Warwick): lol [1:34] Surr20plz (Warwick): ur a clown [1:35] Surr20plz (Warwick): gg [1:37] Surr20plz (Warwick): clown [1:39] Surr20plz (Warwick): just for u [3:31] Surr20plz (Warwick): yeah ill be carrying u pops [3:34] Surr20plz (Warwick): not clown [5:25] Surr20plz (Warwick): clown why are u so quiet? [5:29] Surr20plz (Warwick): all of a sudden [5:52] Surr20plz (Warwick): o u need a lane swap baddie? [5:55] Surr20plz (Warwick): sure u got it m8 [6:38] Surr20plz (Warwick): too late u already fed Moving forward, please remember to stay focused on the game. Mute players when you need to and be aware of your language and behavior. Disabling all chat can be a big help as well. Don't stoop to the level of toxicity to harass others when things don't go according to plan. Be responsible for your own actions. You can't control how others act, but you can control how you react. Aurelise Riot Games Player Support Ahri ♡
So respond in a polite manner by " Hi , i did never intentionally feed if you can provide me with an example i will be more than happy as well as my behaviour is negative i admit that but i dont feel it requires diffrent punishment that is expected which is 25 game chat restriction , if you feel diffrent it would be great if you can provide me why this behaviour needs a diffrent punishment than expected according to rules. I dont think "manuall review" is the good argument btw. My beahaviour as negative as it is should be punished according to punishment tiers, its not hate speech its negativity and venting frustration at others. It would be great if you can reconsider giving me normal punishment i deserve "
Gusdel (NA)
: OK this is not acceptable. But the more you bring attention to it the worse it becomes. You are going online expect offensive behavior or don't play online games. You can't control the population. The more you try the more push back you will get. Mute offensive language we have pings for a reason.
offensive language is --> you dumb fucking useless idiot advising to commit suicide is punishable by law in many countries ( up to 2 years in jail in mine ). I dont want to talk about it , i want it to be punished on sight as it should be -.- i'd rather have 10 negative assholes that just get frustrated that one guy who uses hate speech. Those behaviours should be punished on sight always , not only if its repeated 10 times over 20 games period -_-
: Just received 2 week ban out of nowhere.
i dont think this ( if thats all they shown ) should make you skip a tier. It is indeed negative behaviour and you are harassing your teammates ( happens w/e ) but its not behaviour that can make you skip tiers. Ask for explanation why this behaviour made you skip tiers, and ask for the punishment you deserve. If thats all they gave you it shouldnt get you punished this severe and skip all the way to suspension. You mentioned inting , inting can actually get you all the way to 14 day suspension instantly you can search for game that they think you inted in and show your arguments that you didnt ( dmg share , kill participation preferably some replays but its unlikely you have them )
: The tribunal system or whatever the fuck they have, should put Hate Speech on high priority. Not randomize it.
i strongly agree. There should be certain rules and certain behaviours that are punished on sight and not randomly. Right now they have "zero tolerance towards hate speech " while only randomly people skip punishment tiers or even get punished by that. It should be a standard that for hate speech you get punished immidiately right after the game and there is no need for "behaviour was repetative over a certain period " thingy
AraMoOse (NA)
: No, this is a permanent ban. They use the year as a code for what kind of ban it was. In your case, it means (as you have stated), that your account has been associated with the use of leveling bots. You may plead your innocent, but they don't just give out these bans for fun. If you have received a ban, it is because Riot has a considerable amount of evidence condemning you.
is it for sure bots ? this account is not new ( played in S6 ) as well as has no Aram or normal games ( which are the majority of where bots exist , maybe some twisted treline too ). I think its just a boosted account ( plat 5 0 lp last season high masters right now ) or account that was bought as a "smurf"
Sloth xD (EUW)
: Permanently Suspended for what reason???
hmmmm plat 5 0lp last season ... masters 250 lp now.... hmmm guess you bought yourself a nice account mate ? But for real your account looks like its boosted ( plat 5 last season 0 lp low amount of games played etc and high elo now with decent winrates ) , we cant help you with this only thing you can do is write a ticket to Riot Support with your problem and ask them for a proof ( highly unlikely they will give you one ) and politely ask for explanation of your ban ( that they will do ). You have rly small chance of success but there is nothing that prevents you from trying.
: Just mute people holy shit, how hard is it ?
why should i mute them when they break the rules not only the law implemented in most countries in the world ? Dont get me wrong , i mute them most of the times. I just dont like this behaviour. Im not bitching that this behaviour is here. Im bithcing its not punished on sight and i strongly believe this is how it should be. I do believe this punishment system should be based around severity of the "crime" not over frequency . I dont give a single fuck about negative behaviour and mild assult. But here is my line. I dont think advising smn to suicide should be punished " only if repeated in 10 games over 20 game period " i do think it should be punished right after the game because its disgusting. The same thing should be implemented to : * inting * hate speech * making fun of mental disabilities * etc and just to help you understand. its not " get them banned now " post . Its "get them punished for fuck sake " , its an idea that punishment system should be based around severity of a behaviour rather than its frequency because i dont give a single fuck about guy calling me bad over and over but guy telling me to KYS is crossing the line for me. Not even talking about the fact its punished by law and you can get to jail for up to 2 years in my country and even more in others -.- while calling you a dumb fuck is not :)
xelaker (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GoleBilon,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=GixAdwKE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-02-17T19:33:19.271+0000) > > I dont mind flame but why the thread... thin skin man, thin skin
there is a big diffrence between me calling you dumb illiterate idiot and advising you to suicide you know ...
: Taking offense is a subjective thing. My mom had cancer, but people wish cancer on eachother all the time. Yeah it sucks, but I really don't feel anything other than "oh some kid trying to be edgy" because I realize how bullshit it is to pick n choose what you take offense from and to punish people based on that. Some people take offense to anti semitism. Some anti religious. Some anti gay. It's all just words from anonymous strangers online. Just try to remember you're not special, you're not the judge of morality, you're just a human among billions of humans. Don't take anything anyone says online personally.
i dont , but there are behaviours that are over the line , advising to suicide as well as death threats are punished by law. Everyone has their line, i dont give a single fuck about flame & negativity but there are behaviours that are crossing my line of undesrtanding. And thats what i mentioned here. And yea , it is bullshit talking in chat. But fallowing this logic assult irl is just "bullshit person trying to be edgy " death threats irl are "bullshit person trying to be edgy ". I have rly high tolerance towards flame. I mostly defend frustrated players that get banned , i dont give a fuck about negativity , mild assult. But i have no sympathy towards hate speech , racial slurs , inting , rage quiting and death threats. All those behaviours should be punished on sight. Btw i do not request nothing more , i dont want people to get instantly banned. I just want them to get punished for what they did based on severity of what they did not over frequency of the behaviour.
: Can u imagine "Hey ugly fuckface stop feeding"
yea and i got no problem with it.
Trick2G69 (EUNE)
: you say that but when you reach the 20 game lose streak and the autofilled lux support trolls your game we will see.
no , i will tell her to stop fucking trolling i will call him a dumb fuck but i will never advise him to suicide ....
Miror B (NA)
: I'd personally like rito to take a "funner" stance on stuff like this (hear me out first before hovering the downvotes). Basically, instead of instantly giving someone a ban for bad behavior, what if they forced them to watch/listen to videos based on the corresponding thing? Incredibly salty to your teammates? Watch a 5-min video on the manufacturing of commercial salt in which you have to answer a quiz at the end before you can play any more games. Tell your teammates to "kill themselves" for losing lane? Watch a 20min long video on cyber bullying in which you have to write a detailed paragraph on the topic. Rito's punishments have literally been CTRL+C and CTRL+V for the longest times, wouldn't it be nice to finally see punishments fit the crimes?
i actually think its a good idea , i have little to no problem with flame tho , this post is made about serious issue. or at least for me a behaviour that crosses the line. I cant stand death threats and advising to suicide in particular . its not another post " flame is bad , ban those fuckers" no , i actually defend most of toxic players because i understand venting frustration is a thing and that they dont mean in or they are just frustrated. on the other hand there are behaviours that are crossing this line , inting , rage quits , hate speech , making fun from mental disabilites , death threats , advising to suicide. Those behaviours imo should be punished on sight. And by on sight i dont mean "permaban them all right now ". I mean _" punish them whenever they are seen , not based on frequency of a behaviour but based on severety of it"_ this said i do strongly believe that people that do things mentioned above should be instantly chat restricted/ punished in any other way. And it shouldnt take 20 games of hate speech to ban someone for it.
Faco (EUW)
: How this social-system works....
i dont give a single fuck if you play on potato computer or you rage quited. you afk ---> your team looses ---> its your fucking fault How is it my fault that you afk'd ? there is always someone to blame. Leaver buster is the lowest of punishments you can get , its 5 games of waiting for 20 mintues its not a big deal. Would you want me to play with 5k ping in your games ? Its not my fault im in China and i want to play on NA , its not my fault i play on my iphone ...
: > [{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4AfEUsQU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-02-17T21:23:00.294+0000) > > All the rest of the continuous harassment of your own teammates aside, there is no situation where telling someone to kill themselves is considered a reasonable approach to a negative situation. That alone, with no prior punishment, would've resulted in an account ban; however, this was also on top of multiple prior punishments and other consistent negative behavior. > > If you're having a problem with someone else mute and report them, but do not engage them with negative behavior of your own because that tends to make the situation worse. They will be held accountable for their own actions, as you are for yours. If you can make the effort to not stoop to their level everyone will be able to enjoy the game more. Not gunna say kys isn't a bad thing, but the minority of the playerbase actually thinks of killing themselves when they see that. It is more like a curse word in essence as it is just mean.
advising etc to commit suicide is punishable by law , it is a felony so it doesnt matter how you meant it. Its a disgusting behaviour there are many other ways to insult a dumb fuck without saying this. By my high tolerant to toxicity standards you can call me dumb fuck , fucking idiot and whatever you want , but if you tell me to "kys " or to kill myself you are crossing the line same with making fun of mental disabilities , hate speech , racial slurs and laughing at minorities.
: You must be a Yasuo main. I can tell.
i have 1:14 KDA on yasuo im shit with him and i cant play him ( even tho my winrate is about 50% or smth ) im just not braindead salty kid but w/e guess you need to show what a crying baby you are :) you can still play and ban it every game with the 10 bans coming there will be no games with yasuo open either way
: This game as are most online games is made of salt. If you don't like it then you should not be playing online games. It's not met for you. And some kid acting like a kid is part of playing a game. Telling someone to rake there champ and just run into a tower is not reason to punish. I know you mean when people say to kill themsleep in real life but how do you tell the difference in game? Bottom line. Don't be a snowflake. And If you have issues outside in the the real world, online games where there is a lot of PvP competition is NOT the place for you.
the face when you did not posses the ability to read. I dont give a fuck if they do it for me , im muting them and w/e but i dont like seeing in chat " KYS KYS " "FA****" etc . no matter if its directly towards me or to others, i dont give a single fuck if you call me an idiot or a boosted bonobo. i couldnt care less about flame. But fuck this i had enough of deaththreats and hate speech , its so fucking easy to detect and its game breaking. If you actually read what i said you would recognise my limits are actually pretty high in terms of toxicity, i dont pay attention to it but there are some behaviour , just like IRL , just like in other games that should not be tolerated. PERIOD Im done with seeing inting , im done with afks , im done with hate speech and death threats. You want to flame someone , go ahead i dont give a flying fuck. And its not part of the game, its just a typical behaviour of fat lazy kids that feel empowered because they are anonymous in the internet. You think any of those dumb fucks would say it , even in the internet, but with their face and name attatched ? No they wouldnt because they are fucking pussies and its known. But sadly the only way to punish them is to restrict them from playing. It is known that people get frustrated , and cant hold their nerves in game . im actually the person that defends them most of the times but fuck me there is a line and here it is. Just like making death threats no matter where even on the internet can get you to jail up to 2 years ( in my country ) same thing with telling someone to end themself. And with the sytem being overally sensitive towards frustrated and tilted players . its literally doing nothing to other idiots. Just because its based more on frequency than severity of the behaviour and it should be the other way
: Already implemented, bby.
with efficiency of an ford T comparing to bugatti -.-
: strings are too hard to implement. The system doesn't understand english.
ok , i know im salty becaus e this is one of not so many types of behaviour that is below any standards for me... on the other side what has the understanding of english to do with this. There are many key words that when detected can get you punished , you can obv do the same with combination of words and that gives you infinite possbilities of key combination. The problem of detecting it is not hard. System actually works and detects this type of behaviour more or less . My original belief is that it should be punished on sight not " you need to use hate speech in 10 games over 20 games period to get banned " Its the same with inting , i dont believe in "everybody can have bad game " fuck if i had 0/13 6 tears MF in ranked game she should be suspended instantly and the excuse " oh... she had bad day let her go " is BS . Yea thats why she is not permabanned but the suspensions should be there, fuck it make 3 tiers of suspensions 1 week 2 weeks and perma but ban this on sight. It's the same story as in my post. Both behaviours are more gamebreaking than casual flame and should be punished more severe and on sight instead of based on frequency -.-
Cocho (NA)
: There was a reply to a similar post that I can't agree with more. Basically the comment said that he has been through things and he has thought about suicide on and off for the past year, he has had help but what people said to him in this online video game has had no effect on it. It didn't steer him in either direction. Someone who should be sensitive to it, wasn't. You're overreacting. The fact that you can even get punished for typing in chat is ridiculous. Just mute the dude.
i agree to a point, im pretty immune to toxicity , i dont give a single fuck about negative behaviour and most types of toxicity like mild verbal abusement . But there is my line, i dont think hate speech , racial slurs as well as telling someone to end themsleves should be in the game . I couldnt care less if im "boosted bonobo " " idiot " " fucking idiot " or w/e people can write. but there is my line i strongly believe that this behaviour should not be there as well as situation where i can get punished for calling a fucking idiot a "_fucking idiot_" for what he said is also weird.
: The problem is the game is too big for riot to just simply review every case so they have a system that it triggered by keywords. In this system people can always game it by not using the keywords. And you cant have kill as a keyword because its such an important word in the game.
let me say that the simple combination of key words like "kill yourself " fallowed by more hate speech should get someone punished on sight.
: Everytime I see an Yasuo flash mastery in game.
wow... you are rly salty man. If you dont like to play vs yasuo ban him. This champ is rly hard to play and its more than some dashes and ult . He is extremly team reliant ( his knockup is not reliable ) he is relatively squishy and his ult makes him dive into 5 players in teamfights and he is very weak vs point click cc. yea he is a lil bit annoying to play against but if you know the matchup you can deffo abuse him. Panth is very good vs him and yasuo that is behind early is behind for the whole game
Markocar16 (EUNE)
: Why me?!
Trolling in games is punishable you can report them and hope they will get punished. On the other hand system sucks its effectivness is w/e and some people posted they inted ( not trolled, and trolling is harder to detect ) for 30 games before they were banned.... Sadly the only advice is just chill and treat the game as practice its most likely lost but at least you can have some fun. Or dodge and most likely you will get 1 free win in next series.
: But kys is a had one to tract cause its an acronym that shows up in other words. Plus there is a mute feature you can use.
yea i use it , but im not talking about simple "kys " someone told me to "killl yourself you fucking f*****" , so i mute him play its w/e for me. 5 minutes later i see it again and from context its easy to understand that my team was arguing with this idiot and they respond with the same behaviour. I dont mind flame , i know where my mute button is and i aint no snowflake who cant take some toxicity. My problem is its not the same . Telling someone to commit suicide is not just casual toxic behaviour. People can have their issues outside of this game and telling them to end their life is way more toxic than any other behaviour you can see. I cant stand situation where people treat it the same way like every other punishable behaviour. Its the same as racial slurs and hate speech. All of those behaviours should be punished on sight , not after someone shown repetetive wrong behaviour. Situation in which smn can tell you to end yourself and he is certain he wont be punished is not healthy for this community. We have one punishment system for multiple offenses and it should not work like that.
elduris (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Roscoe Dashh,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=1t09pdUT,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-02-17T17:28:40.758+0000) > these are the two games that i got perma banned for without warning. now **i was very toxic in both** Ah so you understand why you were banned then. The escalation tiers work like this: 1. 10-game chat restriction 2. 25-game chat restriction 3. 14-day suspension 4. Permanent suspension So if you were permabanned, chances are you just came off a 14-day suspension and continued to be toxic. That's why you got permabanned.
hmmm it seems he means he was permabanned "without a warning " so i guess it means he skipped punishment tiers and that actually makes the punishment really surprising. although people often think that previous suspension wasnt a "warning " so you might be right
Rioter Comments
: Warwick can't be displaced (e.g. knocked back by azir ult) when attaching himself via Q. He is also immune to disables during his ult leap. These are both intended. It is perhaps forgivable that you don't know the ins and outs of ww since his was recently reworked. Edge of night seems the most likely culprit in rivens case, as I see she had that item built.
wow so it rly is another thing that can go through azir ult . i thought the WW thing was the bug for sure as his Q is super low CD and if its true it does not seem to be hard to do to counter his ult . The ult was also a big question mark as it is not "unstoppable " as is Hecarim ult Malphite ult and Vi ult. Good to know although i dont think it should be like that ( at least with Q ) I got outplayed :( gotta stick to this Zed
: only other thing I can think of would if riven used her third Q to jump azir wall but I don't think that interaction would work. So I think it might be a bug.
it wasnt 3rd Q for sure because it wasnt like she jumped over , she just stayed on me so maybe it was the Edge active but i did not see it , i still think its unlikely because you cant activate it in combat but maybe i just missplayed and never saw it activate. The WW interaction is still a mystery tho :(
: i know vi's ult goes through his ultimate. it would be scary if she got caught in a infinite knock back loop.
yea Vi ult , Malph ult. A guy that posted here made me wonder that the riven situation might have been edge of night ( i dont remember correctly maybe she activated it during the fight and i did not break the channel ) The more tilting situation was Warwick interaction because in this sit. im actually like 80% sure it was his Q and i dont think it should work like that ( would be more sure with replay but no luck there )
: maybe riven had edge of night?
it can be possible only if she could pop it during the fight , i recall that there was some situation where Riven dodges CC with her E if i remember correctly but i thought they changed it. It can be this tho because she had edge of night sadly cant rewatch it :(
Rioter Comments
: Yeah I died because im trying to stop the fucking train heading at our base that destroys any fucking tower it looks at called teemo. as a ,atter of fact I should prob just afk when I comes to that point because obviously no one on here fucking listens to shit unless your 24/0/100
so you lied you had 5:00 kda , and you also lied you are good with it -.- typical bronze kiddo
: Yup, 1/11/0 is so my skill level
Your KDA as fizz is 1:42 which is shit , stop blaming your teammates because its you who suck at this game , another bronze kid that thinks he is better than everybody -.-
: "Guys this is the last game in my series and i've been stuck in ____ for a while, I NEED THIS WIN."
i demoted today and overall seen like 4 inters in a one day , i rly want to know how those people that say "inting is not often seen " do it. Happily 2 of them were on the opponent team so im only 90% tilted. But for real plz do smth with this feeder detection those guys literally run it down mid with 3 pairs of mobi boots and they are still playing this game without punishment :(
: I'm not sure it would work, but if there's a way to do this then the mobile app would be it.
im 99% sure it worked ( it was on reddit that guy logged on mobile app as a permabanned account ) dunno if they changed it tho
: In addition to the chat logs you provided, it looks like you intentionally fed your last game. I think the jump to the 14-day ban was warranted.
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