: Imagine being a Phantom...
That is Shaco, except he is on your team {{item:3073}} {{champion:35}} {{item:3073}}
: Let's make Riot's job a little bit easier.
Pale Mask (EUW)
: How sad is your champion (professional, scientific, objectively true)?
: Fatal Crash Error Season 9 9.14
Same thing happened to me in ranked, lost 19 lp got a leaver buster, mind you, I RESTARTED THE PC 3 FUCKING TIMES STILL DIDN'T CONNECT, youd think that this is fine but boy oh boy, a game before that, the enemies had an Annie, WITH A PERMA STUN and another game ANOTHER Annie I lost 38 LP that day and I don't understand how a multi-billion company can't fix this or at least ROLLBACK THE PATCH
Rioter Comments
: New Death recap bug
To my friend it showed that I killed him as Shaco with a 1100 magic damage and I was playing ad shaco and he was my teammate wtf??
Rioter Comments
: Annie huge buff
does it still work? can it be abused? why did you play annie lol?
huhndog (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VsV12H7a,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-17T02:04:16.588+0000) > > How tf did this thread shoot up ***sixty*** upvotes in 20 minutes? Its because they posted it in the shaco mains reddit again. Happens everytime with shaco posts on boards so they can circle jerk about how 'bad' their champion is right now.
> [{quoted}](name=huhndog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VsV12H7a,comment-id=00050002,timestamp=2019-07-17T11:24:22.983+0000) > > Its because they posted it in the shaco mains reddit again. Happens everytime with shaco posts on boards so they can circle jerk about how 'bad' their champion is right now. he is he sucks major dick
shofaz (NA)
: Using Riot's Balance Framework on Viktor and Jhin
Your {{champion:35}} brothers stand with you!
: Shaco is in Dire Need of Bug Fixes and Changes
What I think is that the bugs should like just be fixed, I mean why can't we recall invisible anymore???? Fix the bugs Let his Q be 3.5s on all ranks so we can max our e with its literal 0 damage (maybe put the threshold at 25% instead of 0%?)
: 9.14 ladies and gentlemen. Shaco can no longer B or TP while invisible nor get double backstabs off of monsters. So Riot has fixed the 2 bugs the help him while ignoring the many that has been listed here that hinder him. All undocumented btw. Its honestly disgusting how they treat this champ at this point.
> [{quoted}](name=NightmareVerden,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VsV12H7a,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-07-17T07:57:29.834+0000) > > 9.14 ladies and gentlemen. Shaco can no longer B or TP while invisible nor get double backstabs off of monsters. So Riot has fixed the 2 bugs the help him while ignoring the many that has been listed here that hinder him. All undocumented btw. Its honestly disgusting how they treat this champ at this point. Why am I not even surprised now? How many direct and indirect nerfs has this benn 8?9?10?
: I'm outty 5000.
How did so many others get out then?
: Please do not let Twisted Treeline die.
I miss the old twisted treeline before the map got reworked, it was way more interesting, perhaps bringing it back but with a more modern visual would be better
: 9.14: Lore Update
: For entire seasons you discouraged "healbot Soraka" and you come up with Yuumi
I always ban Yuumi, she is just so fucking obnoxius to play against as Shaco, it is already hard enough as it is to kill adcs but with Yuumi it is literally impossible
: people call katarina a "low elo stomper"
ytf (NA)
: The State of Akali
Shahamut (NA)
: Ya know, I haven't looked at Shaco in a long time. Totally agree, though I'm sure, at least in his case, the stealth makes him harder to balance well. Rito why?
> [{quoted}](name=Shahamut,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QnUTPVgA,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-30T13:45:06.558+0000) > > Ya know, I haven't looked at Shaco in a long time. > > Totally agree, though I'm sure, at least in his case, the stealth makes him harder to balance well. > > Rito why? Because Rito hates us and we aren't popular and making anime skins for us is very hard :/
Shahamut (NA)
: Riot, can we PLEASE talk about this?
Don't forget Shaco, you and I are in the same dumpster fellow Skarner player
: Before the rework if I remember correctly you only got more dmg by upgrading his Q ( his CD was always 11 seconds ).
> [{quoted}](name=Awoken Infinity,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hOhrXdA1,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-29T16:41:15.639+0000) > > Before the rework if I remember correctly you only got more dmg by upgrading his Q ( his CD was always 11 seconds ). Yeah, but having it in the current meta on 11 seconds with all the cdr flying around it would be too much, so it is for the best to leave it at 16 and get more damage just by leveling later like instead of 10/20/30/40/50 extra maybe 20/40/60/80/100 would be better
: That has simple solution, change his Q for a 0 radious camouflage, by doing this he wont be seen by proximity but control wards would see him.
> [{quoted}](name=Awoken Infinity,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hOhrXdA1,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-29T16:24:46.304+0000) > > That has simple solution, change his Q for a 0 radious camouflage, by doing this he wont be seen by proximity but control wards would see him. I could work with this, I agree
: [SHACO] Now.. i see a lot of people complaining about things that are mainstream. Lets talk Shaco.
I believe that his Q should work like this: Duration is always 3.5 seconds, by levelling it up you only get more damage and a lower cd (like before the rework) His E: If the Q change would pass he would be able to max it first but it still has quite pathetic damage, maybe give it 10 more damage on every rank and make the damage max out on 50%HP instead of 0%HP Increase his clones explosion or aa radius from 300 to 450: 150 range is filled with the clone he has 150 aa range and 300 for an explosion perhaps this is enough maybe to 500? Also if possible increase his passive's damage, from 120% to champions to 140% this change was suggested by Eagzey a challenger OCE Shaco main on the Shaco podcast with Shaclone, Pinkward, ExtremePerson and ChaseShaco
Kelg (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TlEfcUsm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-28T16:45:16.575+0000) > > Tanks are not obsolete, and are still the defacto best class in the game bar none and its not even a competition. imagine unironically believing this
> [{quoted}](name=Kelg,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TlEfcUsm,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-28T16:47:30.446+0000) > > imagine unironically believing this Well, I mean in proplay someone like zac is oompf so good
: You already have that variance from drafting your setup, haveing items that rng based just doubles down on it. Sure, games like hearthstone/magic have some variance in their opening scenario aswell, but they also have constants. you always start with the same amount of cards, you have some mechanics like mulligan to mitigate the rng, you decided how the pool you draw from looks like(deck building) Non of that is true in TFT, it's just full random from start to finish, the setup, the items, the number of items, even each single fight thx to 70% of the mechanics beeing RNG based, and if nothing else there is the base crit chance... I really was hyped for TFT and i love some ideas like the spatula and the class/origin items, or the shared draft, but if it stays such RNG heavy, i will not play it for long. barly any of my losses felt like i made a wrong decision or could have done anything different, it's just beeing rng fucked and that's it. This isn't the case in MTG for me, in MTG i most of the time find some missplays that led to my demise, which partially is cause MTG avoids any RNG beyond the card draws and even then you have tutor stuff and other mechanics to help with that. It's also why i don't like Herathstone despite likeing the WC-univers and tradeingcard games, it's just to much RNG. You just don't have much options in TFT to play around a position of weakness, other that the arangement on the field, there is nothing you can do, where as in royal you have outplay potential, in tradeingcard games you have the aditional strategic layer of deckbuilding and more depth in the mechanics to make the best out of a bad situation. In TFT, it's like always going all-in, you always show your full hand and then it's jsut who got the better hand(yea, there are some nuances to it, but not enough to compensate the massive advantage that higher lvl units and complete items give). **So again, if you want to comapre TFT to a tradeingcard game: Right now, it's like playing hearthstone with 0-3 manacrystals in turn 1 and you use a W 6 to determine the size of your start hand while your deck is a random bunch of cards.**
> [{quoted}](name=Sire Hippington,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=EbZiPqnj,comment-id=002000000003,timestamp=2019-06-28T19:47:37.670+0000) > > You already have that variance from drafting your setup, haveing items that rng based just doubles down on it. > Sure, games like hearthstone/magic have some variance in their opening scenario aswell, but they also have constants. > you always start with the same amount of cards, you have some mechanics like mulligan to mitigate the rng, you decided how the pool you draw from looks like(deck building) > Non of that is true in TFT, it's just full random from start to finish, the setup, the items, the number of items, even each single fight thx to 70% of the mechanics beeing RNG based, and if nothing else there is the base crit chance... > I really was hyped for TFT and i love some ideas like the spatula and the class/origin items, or the shared draft, but if it stays such RNG heavy, i will not play it for long. > barly any of my losses felt like i made a wrong decision or could have done anything different, it's just beeing rng fucked and that's it. > This isn't the case in MTG for me, in MTG i most of the time find some missplays that led to my demise, which partially is cause MTG avoids any RNG beyond the card draws and even then you have tutor stuff and other mechanics to help with that. > It's also why i don't like Herathstone despite likeing the WC-univers and tradeingcard games, it's just to much RNG. > > **So again, if you want to comapre TFT to a tradeingcard game: > Right now, it's like playing hearthstone with 0-3 manacrystals in turn 1 and you use a W 6 to determine the size of your start hand while your deck is a random bounch of cards.** idk man it feels pretty good to me
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 28
Thoughts on Shaco, he really isn't in a great spot and is in a dire need of buffs, if anything base stat buffs, I have been on the Shacomains reddit for quite some time and there was a change proposed. His Q's duration becomes 3.5s on lvl 1 and doesnt change, levelling it up only gives 10/20/30/40/50 damage like now This allows him to max his already weak E thus giving him some fighting power, this would help him and please a lot of the Shaco community which, I have done a poll a few months ago, more than a half of the people wanted him to be an early game powerhouse (we were discussing a revert), so yeah this is wha has been suggested, tell me what you think of it if you can :) {{champion:35}}
Haze97 (EUW)
: Lol I had a good laugh reading your post because it reminds me of a game I had the other day. I had a Tryndamere on my team who went 4/0 in the laning phase and then ended the game on a negative KDA because every time he split push the opponent Rengar would jump out of the bush and delete him even before he got to activate his ult. Instantly. Needless to say we lost that game hard.
> [{quoted}](name=Haze97,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z3ZBPvE4,comment-id=0019000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-23T13:31:39.484+0000) > > Lol I had a good laugh reading your post because it reminds me of a game I had the other day. > > I had a Tryndamere on my team who went 4/0 in the laning phase and then ended the game on a negative KDA because every time he split push the opponent Rengar would jump out of the bush and delete him even before he got to activate his ult. Instantly. > > Needless to say we lost that game hard. Pretty much, Kata is predictable and can be killed very easily by someone who uses their brain and Shaco is just so much weaker to compared to other assasins that he basically just needs to either be buffed or reverted
Haze97 (EUW)
: Yeah, I see posts from Shaco mains here every week. He's literally in the same boat as Kata in that they need extended trades to take opponents down, but don't have the sustain for it. These are squishy af champs who take more than a few seconds to supposedly 'burst' people down when those like Rengar and Khazix do the same at the press of one fucking button.
> [{quoted}](name=Haze97,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Z3ZBPvE4,comment-id=00190000,timestamp=2019-06-23T12:19:29.612+0000) > > Yeah, I see posts from Shaco mains here every week. > > He's literally in the same boat as Kata in that they need extended trades to take opponents down, but don't have the sustain for it. These are squishy af champs who take more than a few seconds to supposedly 'burst' people down when those like Rengar and Khazix do the same at the press of one fucking button. Basically that, one of my last games was like this, I was like 17/1/11 or something enormous like that, I oneshotted a yuumi in 0.70s, now that seems really ridiculous right? No, because I had 200 cs my items and she was mispositioned Now, my friend was playing Rengar he was fed, but not even close to what I was, he ulted and pressed on Caitlyn SHE WAS DEAD IN 0.00s Either Rengar is just too strong or Shaco is really weak if it takes him way more time, because remember, 0.7s in LoL time is enough time for a good support like Zilean to speed up and ult his carry, while 0.00 is literally no counterplay at all except buying tabis and a ga thus nullifying assasins.
Haze97 (EUW)
: I am giving up Katarina.
I am a Shaco main and I feel you completely, Shaco currently compared to any other assasin is just terrible, 1.His early is weak and that is one of the most important parts of the game 2. His E is useless and weeps for damage buffs 3. You must max Q to be able to gank but then you have to max E for just that tiiiny bit of damage 4. Your ult is SO buggy and sometimes it screws up your combo 5. He is entirely item dependent and has to farm A LOT to be even on the same line as a Rengar or a KhaZix
SpYmAtE (EUNE)
: RIOT has blocked Iran's IP
Envy2331 (NA)
: Can you get banned for a custom HUD?
Riot doesnt ban you for custom skins/HUDS/modifications if it doesn't give you an unfair advantage
Rioter Comments
: In your opinion which role has the biggest effect on the outcome of the game?
Psycrow (NA)
: how do riot go about skins
1. if its popular (e.g. Ezreal and Lux) GIVE EM SKINS 2. We overbuffed it and now everyone is playing it so we are giving them a skin 3. The community was asking for a skin for years
: [Skin Concept]: Dark Star Mordekaiser
NO,no,no and no, he is already cancerous enough as he is, he doesn't need a skin to be played and buffed even more
Composure (EUNE)
: NightBlue3 is Comrade Dyatlov and Riot is Communistic regime
: Nubrac himself, "I don't care if they dodge. I'm going to do what I want." No, NB3 isn't in the wrong. And no, it's not "an off-meta strat that works." It's a troll pick, and he then decided to go mid instead of support. Riot banned him for ruining peoples' games when they didn't completely play around his selfish decision. Nevermind how much of an asshole it makes him, he broke the rules. There's no if's, and's, or but's about it.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7KeTph1z,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-15T23:49:53.607+0000) > > Nubrac himself, "I don't care if they dodge. I'm going to do what I want." > > No, NB3 isn't in the wrong. And no, it's not "an off-meta strat that works." It's a troll pick, and he then decided to go mid instead of support. > > Riot banned him for ruining peoples' games when they didn't completely play around his selfish decision. Nevermind how much of an asshole it makes him, he broke the rules. There's no if's, and's, or but's about it. but he was still supporting, noone ever said that support means just going bot, back in the day supports could be top or mid, so it really isn't trolling
: > [{quoted}](name=GrãñðmãstêrShãçø,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7x6BKEH8,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T16:23:00.689+0000) > > This is all true, but at the end of the day, nothing will change, he is a streamer who makes money and riot gets promoted, so they don't care Sadly I think you're right. I highly doubt anything will happen to Night, even though he deserves to be banned. Riot has no backbone, there are very few companies who stand up to immensely popular streamers/YouTubers. I don't think Blizzard is a perfect company at all, and they've slipped on many things, but the Overwatch Dev team has banned very popular streamers/YouTubers from the game, and ow-league, due to toxic behavior. I appreciate the OW dev team for have the balls to stand up to streamers and Youtubes spewing toxicity the rest of us would be banned for..... maybe they wouldn't punish it all the time, but they have on multiple high-profile cases. Riot, grow a backbone and stand up to petulant brats like Night who don't think the rules apply to them, no matter how popular they are.
> [{quoted}](name=xox BaByDoLL xox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7x6BKEH8,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-15T16:35:42.264+0000) > > Sadly I think you're right. > I highly doubt anything will happen to Night, even though he deserves to be banned. > > Riot has no backbone, there are very few companies who stand up to immensely popular streamers/YouTubers. > I don't think Blizzard is a perfect company at all, and they've slipped on many things, but the Overwatch Dev team has banned very popular streamers/YouTubers from the game, and ow-league, due to toxic behavior. > I appreciate the OW dev team for have the balls to stand up to streamers and Youtubes spewing toxicity the rest of us would be banned for..... maybe they wouldn't punish it all the time, but they have on multiple high-profile cases. > > Riot, grow a backbone and stand up to petulant brats like Night who don't think the rules apply to them, no matter how popular they are. I agree, justice should be done, Nightblue MUST be banned, but I don't think that anything will happen
Busty Demon (EUNE)
: Can someone explain to me what is going on here? I'm not attacking anyone here, I just genuinely wanna know why that teamo stayed mid the whole game?
> [{quoted}](name=Busty Demon,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PQXy7f7m,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-06-14T19:32:58.718+0000) > > Can someone explain to me what is going on here? I'm not attacking anyone here, I just genuinely wanna know why that teamo stayed mid the whole game? He supported his midlaner because sivir can hold her own on bot and since she would push constantly due to her q and w he couldnt procc Spellthiefs so he went mid and procced it all the time
: > [{quoted}](name=GrãñðmãstêrShãçø,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7x6BKEH8,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T16:23:00.689+0000) > > This is all true, but at the end of the day, nothing will change, he is a streamer who makes money and riot gets promoted, so they don't care So stop giving them money until they change. That's all these monolithic companies and corporations understand: Their "Bottom Line." I personally won't spend another dollar on this game until things change, and I suggest everyone else do the same. Stop giving a company that doesn't give a fuck about you your money.
> [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7x6BKEH8,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T16:24:56.552+0000) > > So stop giving them money until they change. That's all these monolithic companies and corporations understand: Their "Bottom Line." > I personally won't spend another dollar on this game until things change, and I suggest everyone else do the same. Stop giving a company that doesn't give a fuck about you your money. Yeah like that will work, everyone wants that SHINYGOLDPRESTIGETRAP LUX SKIN
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7x6BKEH8,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T16:16:23.523+0000) > > Don't think that means they pay him to flame. LOL, imagine... okay... just imagine you work for the Salvation Army and you go to a house call to pick up someone's chair but instead of a chair it's a couch and instead of it being outside, it's inside and you start screaming and calling them names and acting like a re[dacted] and would you be surprised if you get fired? Riot imposes different standards on different people and plays favourites. This dude literally gets paid to stream the game as a riot partner and he does this a lot in his streams. His discord is full of pornography. He's a rotten little man who represents the company in such a negative way but don't you dare say "Stop feeding fuck face" in a game because then you'll get a 14 day ban, just ask Dunky.
> [{quoted}](name=CarpeConundrum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=7x6BKEH8,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-15T16:20:10.457+0000) > > LOL, imagine... okay... just imagine you work for the Salvation Army and you go to a house call to pick up someone's chair but instead of a chair it's a couch and instead of it being outside, it's inside and you start screaming and calling them names and acting like a re[dacted] and would you be surprised if you get fired? > > Riot imposes different standards on different people and plays favourites. This dude literally gets paid to stream the game as a riot partner and he does this a lot in his streams. His discord is full of pornography. He's a rotten little man who represents the company in such a negative way but don't you dare say "Stop feeding fuck face" in a game because then you'll get a 14 day ban, just ask Dunky. This is all true, but at the end of the day, nothing will change, he is a streamer who makes money and riot gets promoted, so they don't care
: Please nerf mordekaiser! Just played against him. ULT OP!!!!!!
Spotty (NA)
: new morde ult is so busted
Buy a Qss aka {{item:3140}}
Rioter Comments
: The most fun we'll get out of this champion is probably pornographic.
> [{quoted}](name=Tychusfindlay918,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1GNqHu2A,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-07T19:55:51.695+0000) > > The most fun we'll get out of this champion is probably pornographic. Thats the only good thing coming out of this lol
: SMITE MORDEKAISER TOP STRATEGY! | TROLL OR GENIUS?? | League of Legends Edited Gameplay
: List of Incredibly Frustrating Shaco Bugs
Well sometimes your aa when youre in stealth just doesnt go off, but i have encountered it very rarely. on the other note, can you invite me to the Shaco Mains discord?
Lanman (NA)
: AP Grievous Wounds Item
AP Champions already have too many overpowered items, giving HP, CDR, Damage etc. Letting them get grievous wounds this easily would break them even more.
Haziv (EUW)
: I want to make a petition : Give Shaco a mini-rework like you did for Wukong!
NO, absolutely not, out of question, every time Riot touched him they made him broken, leave him as he is. A weaker than other assasins assasin, whose full combo barely does half of khazix's Q, so yeah, if you wanna do something with him, revert him or *drums please* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ_vocm7m2Y Watch this podcast of the best Shaco players saying what to do
SummiXx (NA)
: I started a podcast called soloQast
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