: Jungle is a mess
Sorry you got outjungled by a jg main while you were autofilled, tell us more about this horrible experience
Rioter Comments
: Is there another solution to face ranged champs like Vlad on top lane than calling Jungler 24/7 ?
Just play aggressive while they try to cs. Remember they have to choose if they wanna CS or harass you at any given moment, when they go for CS > go in and make sure you pick up all your cs WHILE going in. I usually have 30-40 cs advantage by 10 mins even against ranged hard counters
Yenn (NA)
: My top lane is 0-5-0 and I can't enter my entire top side jungle. I'm 4 levels behind.
https://imgur.com/R3iMUXF How hard do you have to fuck up to fall behind 4 levels despite the insane jungle catch up experience mechanics implemented in game?
: Let's talk about a PROFESSIONAL LEVEL TOURNAMENT that is BASICALLY A TOTALLY DIFFERENT GAME when trying to prove our points, then! :) Instead of sustainable statistics about the game that everyone ACTUALLY plays. Is everyone a Faker? No. Is everyone in coms with their team, whom they've lived and trained with for over a year usually? No. Is everyone a professional League player who trains daily to be the best? Fuck no. Just because it shows up in World's does *not mean that it is broken in Soloqueue.* You cannot have this double fucking standard about World's and Soloqueue; you can't sit and say in one breath that it isn't fair that they nerf certain champions to inviability due to World's(Sejuani, Ryze, Galio) and then say that things that are popular in Worlds are completely broken(Xayah, Kai'sa, Tristana). Its hypocritical and nonsensical. Either you want things that are popular and strong in Worlds nerfed for everyone, including things like Sej, Ryze, and Galio, or you STFU and acknowledge that Worlds and Soloqueue are separate entities and not similar in the least and therefore champions good there should not be nerfed.
Tristana is a pubstomper, she is no Azir or Aatrox. She just jumps on you lv2, procs the bomb, PTA, ignites you and you die. There is no counterplay to this besides letting her shove you in and slowly wither you to death. The fact that he pulled her off in PRO PLAY just goes to show how broken this champ is. Where the opponent mid laner is on comms with his jungler (who isn't terrible btw). Even so Tristana is too safe, too bursty, too unbeatable.
: Other than Conqueror's conversion being removed, what benefits do you see tanks are getting for season 10? The only one I can think of is RADs will be down an additional level which is extremely minor. Though I do agree tanks should have their damage lowered and survivability increased.
They don't need their survivability increased. ADCs and mages need their damage lowered.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: wait, you mean I can't just disrespect a carry and braindeadly jump into a trap? wow, mindblow
He did not jump into a trap. Caitlyn placed the trap AFTER he jumped. What was the counterplay here? Never engage on the adc? Wait for your ADC to 2 shot the enemy adc? 2 and half items. "Late game carry" btw.
JackMcCarry (EUNE)
: ***
Well going in 1v5 and getting a pentakill happens as often as your definition of 1v5 tbh. At least in Diamond 2, not sure about low elos (such as d3 and so on)
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: you talk about 1 player playing tristana mid then tell me about jackylove picking kog botlane when everyone else are playing garen/yasuo when kai'sa and xayah are taken? omegalul
Yeah picking Kog Maw and getting quadra kill + consistently highst DMG output every teamfight. 1 player playing Tristana mid? She was picked 6 times this world championship and she dominated mid every single time.
: Tanks look like they will make a brutal comeback... Time to look into their damage output
Tanks are already better at everything than anyone. You see them in every position even ADC, only ADC and occasional jungler (Evelynn, Kha, Kayn etc) are more broken than tanks.
: > [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4HYUfR6Q,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-01T13:03:40.714+0000) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44axoveSo-g > > Here's what happens to people who don't have armor when they face ADC aka the long range assassins. > > I'm sorry they can't play ADCs in your elo :( no armor, leaped into traps she had headshot preped it was 3 shot and lucky crits also she has almost 3 full items.
Almost 3 full items. That's a weird way of saying 2 and half items.
: Tristana taking over the game from mid. You're funny. xD That's a good joke. https://na.op.gg/champion/tristana/statistics/mid I say that because you can't actually mean the champion who is sitting at a 1.38% pick rate and a WR that is 6 spots away from being *the worst midlaner in the game.* Just because she is picked mid, doesn't mean she's good. There are more match ups that dumpster her than match ups that she wins against, one predominant one I can think of being that she absolutely shits on Katarina. She also punishes bad Talons who roam at stupid times. Otherwise, many mages and assassins all hit level 6 and blow her up. https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/tristana/middle/master At Master+, she is at a 45% WR midlane. There isn't a single division in which Tristana mid is above a 50% WR. Not even going all the way to Iron. But sure, Tristana who they have gutted and left to bleed on the side of the street is totally taking over games.
Let's pull meaningless win rates out while we witness players like Faker etc picking Tristana mid in the most prestigious LoL tournament and CHOKING out other mids. Damn, someone should tell Faker and other people who are paid to literally search for the most overpowered and unfair champs in the game to play against other teams that Tristana is "gutted and left to bleed on the side of the street", apparently they didn't know and decimated their opponents with her.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: EUNE trying to shittalk EUW's division lol
I was diamond in EUW too wym, same shit
Rioter Comments
: There's nobody who calls having to hard-carry the team 1v5. Almost literally everybody who speaks English says "1v9". The people who don't speak English don't say that for the simple reason that "1v9" is English.
Please add block feature to the forums, please, this is too much lol
: That's an awfully strange looking LeBlanc. I never knew they made her into an iron golem with a big-ass hook fist! Also...notice how Cait is 2 items up on Blitz? And how it's a fucking 2v1 against him?
Lol. They need to add block feature to these boards, jesus christ. What's the difference between Rek Sai and Le Blanc? Is Le Blanc supposed to be tankier than Rek Sai? They'd both get 2 shot. What about Blitz? What are you even talking about? Did you watch the entire clip? Holy shit man why do I even bother
: >Kalista has the lowest winrate but does this mean she cannot hard carry 1v5? That's what OP literally said. You would agree that a 1v1 is inherently contained within a 1v5, correct? If a champion is in a 1v5, then that can be conisdered a greater risk than a 1v1 against any of those champions individually, barring the special cases of Anivia, TK, Bard, and Kindred. Correct? Ergo, saying "No ADC can possibly 1v1 Nasus and win" would also inherently mean a 1v5 against a team with Nasus is *at least* equally impossible to win. Literally the only reason I said "Can't 1v1 Nasus" instead of "Can't 1v5 a team with Nasus on it" is because it gets the point across more thoroughly and sounds less dumb.
Why are you taking things literally? Of course 1v5 doesn't mean literally 1v5. 1v5 means the ability to hard carry even if the rest of his team is behind.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: yet in world, they pick xayah and kai'sa, and whenever they aren't aviable they just go for yasuo, garen, and mages WOW, ADC SO BROKEN WTF
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44axoveSo-g They go for Yasuo, Garen, Mages and then get dumpstered by conventional ADCs like Kog Maw and Varus. Okay buddy.
: Source on any of this actually ever happening?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44axoveSo-g Here's what happens to people who don't have armor when they face ADC aka the long range assassins. I'm sorry they can't play ADCs in your elo :(
: {{champion:105}} {{champion:7}} Knock knock
LB gets 2 shot when she even thinks about poking the ADC, Fizz can't ever reach the ADC and his R will always be body blocked by competent players protecting the ADC
Neriticc (EUW)
: ADC is such a weak role guys?
ADC is such a weak role they go into other lanes like mid and top and shit on the best champs in those respective roles. Absolutely demolish them. We all seen Lucian absolutely dumping on Gangplank We all seen how utterly hopeless Renekton was when THE BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD played him against Quinn We all seen how Tristana takes over the entire game from mid Weak role btw. If there was a champ that did to ADCs what ADCs do to other roles when they switch (top / mid) you'd never heard the end of it from ADC mains
: Jesus all the top win rate champion for jungle are damage/burst champion.
Thank God tank champs have the burst to rival those "burst champs" , am I right?
: Which laner's the best at stealing camps?
I do it with Renekton really fast after Tiamat and a few damage items
PzyXo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8VsTO1u9,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-31T21:54:12.643+0000) > > How does farming jungler use his brain again? Sorry I think you don't get it at all. I said that you, yes you. Use your brain to think about it, + farming jungler got more brain skills. Because the farmer's ganks are harder than the ganker's ganks. Got it ? I don't understand how you're a top main tho
> [{quoted}](name=PzyXo,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8VsTO1u9,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-31T21:59:55.309+0000) > > Sorry I think you don't get it at all. I said that you, yes you. Use your brain to think about it, + farming jungler got more brain skills. Because the farmer's ganks are harder than the ganker's ganks. Got it ? I don't understand how you're a top main tho Lmao this logic, I'm done
PzyXo (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8VsTO1u9,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-31T21:45:02.295+0000) > > Why should farming junglers EVER be a thing? You farm jungle uncontested and then come out and become a God. What's the counterplay? PRAY MY JUNGLER IS BETTER THAN YOU AND HAS THE KNOWLEDGE TO COUNTERJUNGLE YOU? WHAT? Farming junglers should be a thing to make counterjunglers a thing. Use your brain, that's a strategy game not a farming simulator, if I'm a jungler who farms and your jungler is a counterjungler and all he do is farming that it's his fault, same as Lee Sin who afk farms in jungle. And yeah, doesn't everyone pray that the jungler knows how to do his job everygame ?
> [{quoted}](name=PzyXo,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8VsTO1u9,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-31T21:48:42.758+0000) > > Farming junglers should be a thing to make counterjunglers a thing. Use your brain, that's a strategy game not a farming simulator, if I'm a jungler who farms and your jungler is a counterjungler and all he do is farming that it's his fault, same as Lee Sin who afk farms in jungle. > And yeah, doesn't everyone pray that the jungler knows how to do his job everygame ? How does farming jungler use his brain again?
PzyXo (EUW)
: Farming junglers are trash now
Why should farming junglers EVER be a thing? You farm jungle uncontested and then come out and become a God. What's the counterplay? PRAY MY JUNGLER IS BETTER THAN YOU AND HAS THE KNOWLEDGE TO COUNTERJUNGLE YOU? WHAT?
Kazekiba (NA)
: And that logic is why we have a burst oriented meta and the game has gotten so stale and bitter. It's absolutely wrong, and misses the entire point of a strategy game but its the thinking that makes bad players feel good about themselves :) If Turrets are a threat, the level 6 Lee Sin landing his Q on the support has to consider his options and the possibilities of taking it, if you play the game as if turrets aren't around then there's no decisions to make, no repercussions to bad plays, and the overall thought processes and thus, difficulty of the game, goes way way down. Asking Riot to make turrets weaker and speeding up the game has simplified the game to an extreme and made it piss easy for piss babies.
Burst meta isn't bad. You think the meta is bad because you can't get autofilled on top lane, pick a tank, and then stonewall the lane by just perma farming under your tower. This is not how you win games. This is not how league of legends is played. I'm sorry. You are supposed to be aggressive, deny your laner CS, and if he falls behind enough you should absolutely be able to dive him. More agency to players is a good thing, less agency = bad. What are you even talking about? If lee is 6 and diving your support then you're doing something obviously wrong.
Kazekiba (NA)
: Turrets being stronger makes the game *harder*, not easier. It means punishment for bad plays is higher, makes an aggressive play riskier and defensive play more possible for teams that want to scale into the 30-40+ minutes late game. It also means that if turrets are powerful and not made of glass, late game shoves after taking 3-4 people and an objective don't just result in the game ending immediately, taking an inhibitor requires significantly more effort and time
Lol what? Bad players play defensively. They cover under the turret and sit till their team / jungler carries them. Aggressive players = good. Defensive players = bad. Turrets are helping defensive players thus making the game easier. Sorry man idk what flawed logic you got there lol. A player who has an advantage isn't looking to farm under tower
: Why is there no Khazix nerfs on Pbe ?
Kha Zix has been S+ tier for the last 5 years m8
: How much longer is ezreal going to be able to build iceborn gauntlet
Unfortunately there is nothing you can do besides pick hard engage and assassins in the champ select. Something like Vi + Yasuo works well if the Ezreal gets cocky. Ezreal is just bonkers atm. I play him a lot and his ability to just 1v9 is insane
: Can we PLEASE have towers do more damage?
Can we stop asking Riot to make this game easier?
Keiaga (NA)
: ***
Ironic you would say this. In what world are Kled / Voli / Mordekaiser tanks ?
: You dont need to duo queue, just make him aware that you need help. And unless your jungler is 0-12 or something you should still win (depends on mid matchup) Lane ganking isnt really avoidable with eve, but you need to be far over-extended for her to be able to do it. Pink ward key points in her jungle and stealth ward on her camps to figure out where she is.
You don't have to be far over extended at all, she can do it from the nearest bush the moment you attempt to engage on your opponent. Yeah pink wards are only a temporary solution and a considerable investment. Also warding her camps is important, problem is after the camp is finished you lose track of her. If you expect my jungler to countergank an evelynn in solo q, that means he must've read her pathing and plays better than her. It's not a good enough advice / argument. There's all kinds of junglers in solo q, and me relying on jungler's help is not viable strategy.
Keiaga (NA)
: Sometimes I ignore topics with subjective opinions. But your topics are consistently pretty stupid lmao. Just objectively
That's your opinion. Which I am not interested in. I want to hear opinion from good players, not people who spam here 24/7. Please take a chill and stop thinking you are above anyone else on these forums just because you post everyday.
musixxal (EUW)
: no you can't. you're supposed to sit under turret and do nothing unless you have 12 pink wards in her jungle.
This is the correct answer. Sit under turret unless my jungler is nearby or I see her on the map.
: Buy control wards. Get your jungler to counter-gank if you fear her. If he's playing a champ with a half-decent early to mid game she will get clapped. Eve is mega squish. Oracle lense and control wards are your best friends.
So duo q with a jungler and make sure both me and my jungler are winning. Awesome advice. What happens when she lane ganks completely avoiding my pink ward? Do I pink ward the lane too? Or where do I put the pink ward
Keiaga (NA)
: ***
I'm sorry man you are in every thread I make. I mean, I understand you are opinionated and stuff, but I wanna hear opinions from actually good players
Keiaga (NA)
: You don't have to make an exaggerated topic Everytime you lose to a mediocre champion
You and DuskDaUmbreon don't own these forums just cause you sit here all day, relax. Lol.
: Mod? I'm just being helpful to a forgetful poster, because clearly you had to have misclicked and posted to gameplay on accident. It seems to be a bit of a common occurrence. I blame them putting it right next to gameplay. --- Unless, of course, you *weren't* ranting, and you just completely forgot to back this up with so much as a shred of evidence?
I actually already discussed this topic with the mods, you're just trying to be passive aggressive Please leave modding to the mods and stick to spamming threads with your opinions 24/7
: Seems like you misclicked fam. Dw, [here's](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/rant) the board you *meant* to post to
Who made you the mod ? I know you post here all day every day but c'mon lol
iiGazeii (NA)
: Black Cleaver doesn't need buffs. It's one of the best items in the game right now.
Rioter Comments
: About Toplane Preseason.
LOL what you suggest would kill top lane
NY64 (NA)
: Make Kaleidoscope like Unsealed Spellbook
Lol, this is the dumbest idea I've ever heard. Why wouldn't EVERYONE just take this rune then? LOL
Jbels (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BAWnWblj,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-28T15:48:07.528+0000) > > Tanks being nerfed benefits top lane. Autofill / bad players just take tanks and then stonewall the lane. A bruiser / fighter without any kills has the same teamfight role as the tank (being a meatshield for his carries). > > Okay so nerfing an entire class to the point where they are at an inherent disadvantage just for trying to play the game the only way they are allowed to at this point is okay? This is why the game is going to shit.
The class was OP. Tanks still have decent win rates. What are you talking about? Which tank is underperforming currently?
Jbels (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BAWnWblj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-28T14:10:24.392+0000) > > That's exactly what they want to achieve tho. > > Do you think it's fun for bot lane to get 5 man gangbanged every couple minutes? Yeah okay so throw top lane under the bus instead, despite the fact that top lane has been eating shit for everyone else since season fucking 4 Waaaaaah, waaaah, tanks take too long to die, nerf them! "Okay, done." Waaaah, waaaah, bruisers are basically just better assassins! "Nerfed" WAAAAAAH, Now Assassins are too good because the tanks all got nerfed out of top lane! "Sorry man, you wanted tanks to be useless, soooo uh...yeah" You can't keep shitting on top lane just because it's become so worthless and unimportant that everyone goes botlane instead. Making top lane even more boring is only going to exacerbate the problem.
Tanks being nerfed benefits top lane. Autofill / bad players just take tanks and then stonewall the lane. A bruiser / fighter without any kills has the same teamfight role as the tank (being a meatshield for his carries). Teleport being nerfed benefits top lane too. You can finally shut down the enemy top laner even harder and make the game 5v4 if you are good enough, instead of kills being meaningless top lane where enemy top will always be almost on equal footing as you unless your jungler intervenes. Just think about it.
: Ban Kha and Play Zac
But Zac shits all over Kha too. Zac and tanks are just broken atm.
Jbels (NA)
: I don't think I like where season 10 is going at all...
That's exactly what they want to achieve tho. Do you think it's fun for bot lane to get 5 man gangbanged every couple minutes?
Pyrosan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xI6KQaMg,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-10-27T13:31:36.461+0000) > > You lost as Darius to a Garen. Darius is the most broken autowin melee champ on top lane atm, and you lost to the champ you counter completely. > > Maybe it's not the champ fault, but rather, your gameplay? i'm not speaking out of personal experience nor did i quote anything regarding personal experience as my answer to why i think he's broken lol but i can't use anything from your profile against you, it's eune afterall the easiest region lol
That's hilarious bro considering TF Blade who just got rank 1 on EUNE said that EUNE is better server than NA. I've been Diamond in NA with 150~ ping and have diamond on EUW, the skill is pretty much the same in all 3 servers until diamond 1+ where EUW is clearly the superior one. But I understand you getting triggered, I would too if someone pointed out my match history like that and I lost as Darius to a Garen lol
Lurugo (NA)
: Just tossing this chat with Anjiii I had up in the air!
Why are people complaining about FREE STUFF we're getting? How ungrateful can you get ?
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