: Goblin Slayer is best
> [{quoted}](name=TonyTonyMordecai,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=ePEkjR4E,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-07T20:13:55.162+0000) > > Goblin Slayer is best ... if you enjoyed that first episode then by god i will call 911 right now.
: My roommate is using W,A,X,D instead of W,A,S,D and it makes my OCD flair up
: > [{quoted}](name=Vhan8765,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZEyIeIEB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-04T15:19:25.953+0000) > > Love is peel for your carry. nobody expects the banana {{champion:16}}
> [{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ZEyIeIEB,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-04T15:20:14.373+0000) > > nobody expects the banana {{champion:16}} You expected the spanish inqusition but it was me dio, but no one expected the bananananananananananananananananana BATMAAAN!
: Dying seems to = inting these days
I honestly don't see a lot of people in eune say some one is bad/inting when they are 0/1 0/2. BUT IF THEY ARE 0/3 before the 3rd fucking minute ye i think that is blatant inting. dies level 1 duel, tp's into lane level 1 vs level 2. dies again, runs back and dies level 1 to 3. ye that is the prime definition of inting. same with botlane. i understand losing once, twice EVEN thrice but 4 times you push them and die 2v2 before the 8th minute while they have a full item on you. yes that is inting. You know god damn well you aint winning those fights but you still fight them, that is inting.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=b8d5rJzT,comment-id=0000000000020001,timestamp=2018-10-03T19:40:49.918+0000) > > so u trolling every post u visit? shaco? cant clear own jungle for shit? is this god damn meme? He really cant. He is slow and inefficient at farming compared to any other jungler, and if you simply clear his boxes at level 1, without a hard leash he will be level 2 whike the other jungler is level 4. It used to be worse, but jungle exp has been cut, so its not level 5 vs level 1. Shaco is the only jingler that needs to constantly be ganking or ve useless, because he cannot clear fast enough to keep up with other gank heavy junglers when behind until he at least gets tia.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=b8d5rJzT,comment-id=00000000000200010000,timestamp=2018-10-03T19:44:56.293+0000) > > He really cant. He is slow and inefficient at farming compared to any other jungler, and if you simply clear his boxes at level 1, without a hard leash he will be level 2 whike the other jungler is level 4. It used to be worse, but jungle exp has been cut, so its not level 5 vs level 1. Shaco is the only jingler that needs to constantly be ganking or ve useless, because he cannot clear fast enough to keep up with other gank heavy junglers when behind until he at least gets tia. so what ur saying is, you are just a troll?
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=HateDaddy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=b8d5rJzT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T15:08:42.218+0000) > > Yes. It. Is. This is why you jungle. This is why red buff exists. This is why junglers jobs are to apply pressure and map control and the absolute best way to do that, which has been proven time and time again for almost 10 years now of this game, is for _a jungler to gank._ > > If you do not want to gank or don’t believe it is your job as a jungler, then play a role that requires less macro and nuances. But that is the essential function of a jungler. No. No its not. Junglers job is to take exp from camps, and have smite to secure major jungle objectives. Nowhere in there is ganking. There are junglers who are good at ganking, or even some that need to gank like shaco who cant clear his own jungle for shit, but you also have champs like yi and shyvanna, who do not want to gank early, at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=b8d5rJzT,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2018-10-03T15:52:20.691+0000) > > No. No its not. Junglers job is to take exp from camps, and have smite to secure major jungle objectives. Nowhere in there is ganking. > > There are junglers who are good at ganking, or even some that need to gank like shaco who cant clear his own jungle for shit, but you also have champs like yi and shyvanna, who do not want to gank early, at all. so u trolling every post u visit? shaco? cant clear own jungle for shit? is this god damn meme?
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z9FOB30A,comment-id=0003000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T16:29:56.244+0000) > > No i actually do know how it is handled and from experiance i can say, it is beyond easy. especially for a billion dollar company. (indie company) > > > Do you really not remember last years pick em? missions xd no watch vods/matches missions tho :^) You clearly dont if you think even for a second its easy. Theres a reason most popular MMOs are virtually unplayable at launch; even if you have the money and expect the server load properly, you have no idea how well it will work until the load actually hits the server.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z9FOB30A,comment-id=00030000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T17:18:56.937+0000) > > You clearly dont if you think even for a second its easy. Theres a reason most popular MMOs are virtually unplayable at launch; even if you have the money and expect the server load properly, you have no idea how well it will work until the load actually hits the server. You are comparing an mmo games server to a fucking mission INSIDE of an mmo ._. i am done with u
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z9FOB30A,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T15:22:18.695+0000) > > But they never did. it's not had to add a mission to watch a video xd just saying. actually 5 minutes to put in :D 1) missions are like 1 year old 2) no, its not that easy. Not when you have tens of millions of people stressing the system and trying to get it to work for all of them. You clearly show a lack of understanding of how all this is handled.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z9FOB30A,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T15:50:07.924+0000) > > 1) missions are like 1 year old > > 2) no, its not that easy. Not when you have tens of millions of people stressing the system and trying to get it to work for all of them. You clearly show a lack of understanding of how all this is handled. No i actually do know how it is handled and from experiance i can say, it is beyond easy. especially for a billion dollar company. (indie company) Do you really not remember last years pick em? missions xd no watch vods/matches missions tho :^)
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z9FOB30A,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T14:58:54.511+0000) > > hmm why not expose people to esports when it was still growing? :^o why not last year? or the year before that? They have been trying, they actually have better tech and more of an ability to make a bigger push.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z9FOB30A,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-03T15:05:55.472+0000) > > They have been trying, they actually have better tech and more of an ability to make a bigger push. But they never did. it's not had to add a mission to watch a video xd just saying. actually 5 minutes to put in :D
Arakadia (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=KÎŢŢΥKÂŢKÂŢÂRÎÑÂ,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z9FOB30A,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-02T15:05:07.591+0000) > > It's called boosting your viewers numbers for 10 minutes so they can gloat how well they are taking care of the game. they did not give free stuff for watching any of the last years cause the game was not actually dying then like it is now. No it's called exposing people to new things in hope some of them are interested by it.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Z9FOB30A,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-10-03T14:55:52.382+0000) > > No it's called exposing people to new things in hope some of them are interested by it. hmm why not expose people to esports when it was still growing? :^o why not last year? or the year before that?
: WOW Rito did you just stealth NERF Worlds 2018 Pass token grind?
This is false info, you do get all the promised tokens it is just split up as 2 rewards now. .-. weird but you do get em all
T2K Baka (NA)
: About the zed, he flashed my e damage itself which is why I was confused. As for the leaning animation, I think the poof is more suited towards her instead. She is an assassin that is supposed to be fast and hard to keep track of. This new animation makes it feel buggy and delayed. Its the old dominon animation which shows how much effort they put into it (none). They should just change it back and try to make the old one more visually appealing. Kat needs work for sure.
> [{quoted}](name=T2K Baka,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E21BWGFp,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-02T16:39:01.693+0000) > > About the zed, he flashed my e damage itself which is why I was confused. As for the leaning animation, I think the poof is more suited towards her instead. She is an assassin that is supposed to be fast and hard to keep track of. This new animation makes it feel buggy and delayed. Its the old dominon animation which shows how much effort they put into it (none). They should just change it back and try to make the old one more visually appealing. Kat needs work for sure. Why do you think riot ignore katarina posts? but not rengar/leblanc posts when they got reverted? Cause even they know that they did a splendid job at making an incredibly balanced assassin with smooth animations and gameplay. why else would they ignore the constant posts about katarina? Cause you all simply dont realize you have become just like shaco/fizz/zed/yasuo mains. asking for a revert, fix for something nonexistent just to get buffs for nothing. btw removing cast times is massive power budgetting* and making kat's E instant at everything will require massive damage nerfs all around her kit. something that i always get told i am stupid for but hey tough to be logical. Just cause more people say something is bad does not make them correct. For example most of riot agreeing with the way PAX went. obviously they weren't right? same here, "most" of katarina "mains", 65% of them agree that her E is not smooth but what makes them more right than the other 35%?
T2K Baka (NA)
: the 33% is probably towards the idea of the revert which idc as much, but would i like it since I had more fun with the old one. If they do it or not it doesn't matter. The cast time is what ive seen a lot of people agreeing on. Again idk if you used the practice tool, but when you e there is a delay, if you use project kat ( dunno if you have it) and if you e to a dummy on the practice tool, you will notice some sort of delay with a pink streak following her. That wasn't there before the rework ( project kat was out before the rework), and at the beginning of the assassin update. It was more of a hop before which was instant and felt more like a blink, while this one with the delay feels like a dash. Its kinda weird and might be hard to notice unless you have a certain skin. Project kat is probably the best skin to use since it actually shows you a lot more than you might think. Also the delay cost me first blood when the enemy outplayed me ( or probably got lucky) and flashed my damage and I froze for like 0.4 sec before I could do anything. I was so confused and pissed lol, but its whatever. it also might be your computer or monitor, maybe internet ( I have a computer meant to play destiny or battlefield, but I just play league lol). If you can try the practice tool and if you have project kat use that, and also watch scarra talking about the reworked kat cuz it the shunpo does look different than it is right know. Let me know if still don't notice anything.
> [{quoted}](name=T2K Baka,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E21BWGFp,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-02T15:31:07.750+0000) > > the 33% is probably towards the idea of the revert which idc as much, but would i like it since I had more fun with the old one. If they do it or not it doesn't matter. The cast time is what ive seen a lot of people agreeing on. Again idk if you used the practice tool, but when you e there is a delay, if you use project kat ( dunno if you have it) and if you e to a dummy on the practice tool, you will notice some sort of delay with a pink streak following her. That wasn't there before the rework ( project kat was out before the rework), and at the beginning of the assassin update. It was more of a hop before which was instant and felt more like a blink, while this one with the delay feels like a dash. Its kinda weird and might be hard to notice unless you have a certain skin. Project kat is probably the best skin to use since it actually shows you a lot more than you might think. Also the delay cost me first blood when the enemy outplayed me ( or probably got lucky) and flashed my damage and I froze for like 0.4 sec before I could do anything. I was so confused and pissed lol, but its whatever. it also might be your computer or monitor, maybe internet ( I have a computer meant to play destiny or battlefield, but I just play league lol). If you can try the practice tool and if you have project kat use that, and also watch scarra talking about the reworked kat cuz it the shunpo does look different than it is right know. Let me know if still don't notice anything. No offense but try reading my first statement on shunpo. It is different i noticed and it's good and healthy for the game and champion. Also pre rework kat was obviously fun cause any person who just started playing league could get a penta with her, now only skilled people can have fun with kat which imo is good. Also i have all the skins on kat, any wards,icons related to her .-. ANYWAY, i repeat, i did say that yes there is a slight blur when she uses E which is the part i swear if get's removed i will make it my life mission to hunt anyone who ever suggested removing it. It adds so much OOMPH to shunpo i can't imagine how i liked pre rework kat without it. The slight blur before she actually jumps makes me believe she actually does something rather than just poof i am here. Also if you look closely when you E, you can see she sort of leans which looks so cool. Also i have never heard of a situation like you just said. Laner flashed your damage (the auto reset from E? or the E damage itself? cause that has never happened to me (the second one)) Also if you think E is clunky, try flashing blitz E after he hooks, and then say if flash is not the same as her E now :) Instant spell that dashes right? wrong blitzcrank E is faster. it is simply part of the game to make things more balanced. Imagine someone being able to flash blitz E, he would be borderline useless compared to thresh.
T2K Baka (NA)
: i'm at work right now so you won't be seeing proof of anything, but every single thread ive seen you in. You are aggressive, negative, toxic, and just arrogant. And they were suggesting an idea, when you popped out of nowhere and aggressively disagreed with them which would obviously cause them to retaliate. I remember you said something about being a true kat main and that they don't know how to play her. That really pissed them off and they retaliated. Also maybe you should try to pay attention to the cast time and see if you can notice it. There is a lot of people claiming that the delay is annoying and you seem to be the only one that plays kat who disagrees. Maybe if you go to the practice tool and take time to notice the delay. Maybe to you the delay isn't there since you are used to it and it seems normal, but if you go and compare old and new kat shunpo you can see the difference. Even the new kat at the beginning didn't have a delay, if you take time to notice it. The animation is trash and is not smooth. It doesn't feel like a blink anymore now. You seem to come as aggressive, which is why you get a lot of down votes, just saying.
> [{quoted}](name=T2K Baka,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E21BWGFp,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-02T15:01:45.923+0000) > > i&#x27;m at work right now so you won&#x27;t be seeing proof of anything, but every single thread ive seen you in. You are aggressive, negative, toxic, and just arrogant. And they were suggesting an idea, when you popped out of nowhere and aggressively disagreed with them which would obviously cause them to retaliate. I remember you said something about being a true kat main and that they don&#x27;t know how to play her. That really pissed them off and they retaliated. Also maybe you should try to pay attention to the cast time and see if you can notice it. There is a lot of people claiming that the delay is annoying and you seem to be the only one that plays kat who disagrees. Maybe if you go to the practice tool and take time to notice the delay. Maybe to you the delay isn&#x27;t there since you are used to it and it seems normal, but if you go and compare old and new kat shunpo you can see the difference. Even the new kat at the beginning didn&#x27;t have a delay, if you take time to notice it. The animation is trash and is not smooth. It doesn&#x27;t feel like a blink anymore now. You seem to come as aggressive, which is why you get a lot of down votes, just saying. I can notice the cast time which is why E feels so smooth. without it its just a bug glitching around my screen. old kat was just that. a bug jumping around a screen with no animation. Literally like a visual bug. .-. now she is incredibly smooth on her E. Also i said they aint true kat mains cause they were attacking me first. also when you said everyone agrees and i only disagree. why are there 33% dislikes on these kat threads? And thats the thing. i did compare old and new kat. The difference is insane actually. one kat (old) was a visual bug that can cast E 5 times in 0.01 seconds. this one actually requires skill/precision/timing in her E usage =) AND right as the reworked kat came out she had that delay. Also i come off as aggressive simply cause i can't express myself any other way. Must be hard reading a sentence and taking out that one or two words that come off as offensive and ignore them. :( < see that sounded offense didn't it? but it really wasn't.
: They actually added a quest that tells you to watch E-Sports games
It's called boosting your viewers numbers for 10 minutes so they can gloat how well they are taking care of the game. they did not give free stuff for watching any of the last years cause the game was not actually dying then like it is now.
T2K Baka (NA)
: Who has resets on kills? Irelia, Kha Zix, Darius Also I've seen you on other Katarina threads, you are pretty toxic to people to suggest ideas, always using caps to show your anger. But then you don't seem to realize why you are getting down votes. I've seen others say they don't like kat reworks and they have a civilized argument and they don't really get aggressive towards each other. I main kat as well and I also think that she needs some changes like her shunpo animation. That feels really buggy and is really annoying sometimes, I miss the old kat and I would love a revert, but I don't think that's gonna happen. I don't dislike this new kat with the daggers either, but her shunpo cast time is annoying. Just change that and its all good imo. Maybe, buff her base stats or ability damage, but im fine with removing that cast time.
> [{quoted}](name=T2K Baka,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E21BWGFp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-02T13:44:15.545+0000) > > Who has resets on kills? Irelia, Kha Zix, Darius > > > Also I&#x27;ve seen you on other Katarina threads, you are pretty toxic to people to suggest ideas, always using caps to show your anger. But then you don&#x27;t seem to realize why you are getting down votes. I&#x27;ve seen others say they don&#x27;t like kat reworks and they have a civilized argument and they don&#x27;t really get aggressive towards each other. I main kat as well and I also think that she needs some changes like her shunpo animation. That feels really buggy and is really annoying sometimes, I miss the old kat and I would love a revert, but I don&#x27;t think that&#x27;s gonna happen. I don&#x27;t dislike this new kat with the daggers either, but her shunpo cast time is annoying. Just change that and its all good imo. Maybe, buff her base stats or ability damage, but im fine with removing that cast time. ? i am toxic? proof? .-. I only become toxic if they straight up insult me which is what happened in 2 other threads, and they got banned for it .-. Also her shunpo animation is smooth i legit want someone to show me why it is not smooth. I play kat 12 hours a day and not once has shunpo felt clunky/unsmooth. can someone show some legitimate proof rather than just say. oh this is bad and this is bad but don't show the bad. Show me the bad and i might change my mind but if u throw out wild accusations how does that help any thread or riot at all? It's like someone saying zed needs nerfs but then they don't show why. Saying is one thing, proving is another. All i can say is, trust nothing unless you are shown genuine proof.
: Go C9!
I hope skt t1 win worlds 2018 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . kappa.
Auzyris (EUW)
: She's fine ofc but she still feels terrible in some situations. In the laning phase she has no real tool to farm "safely". She has to commit so much in order to farm/trade, in most match up she does not feel scary to play against, she's incredibly slow with the shunpo reset, so slow that you end up losing the trade by the time your shunpo is back up. In late game teamfight her daggers take too much time to land so it's really hard to dish out damage before getting oneshotted, the best thing you can hope for is to throw a dagger on the front line and have an ADC walking on it. It's not fun in my opinion, it's predictable, always the same and not smooth.
> [{quoted}](name=Auzyris,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=auI0Wh8B,comment-id=002d0001,timestamp=2018-10-01T12:51:09.912+0000) > > She&#x27;s fine ofc but she still feels terrible in some situations. > In the laning phase she has no real tool to farm &quot;safely&quot;. She has to commit so much in order to farm/trade, in most match up she does not feel scary to play against, she&#x27;s incredibly slow with the shunpo reset, so slow that you end up losing the trade by the time your shunpo is back up. > In late game teamfight her daggers take too much time to land so it&#x27;s really hard to dish out damage before getting oneshotted, the best thing you can hope for is to throw a dagger on the front line and have an ADC walking on it. > > It&#x27;s not fun in my opinion, it&#x27;s predictable, always the same and not smooth. She is fun imo Trading in lane with kat is the easiest thing ever... i'm sorry but how do you have trouble with that? of course you will lose laning against certain champs like ryze,diana,fizz,talon and so forth. but that is normal for any champion. .-. for example syndra would beat talon while kat beats syndra. In team fights you have to set up a dagger prior to jumping in which is the best part about this kat. You are rewarded for patience. Just wait till a minion wave or your tank goes infront for you to throw out 1 Q. her Q will land behind the enemy tank .-. which is why she is so good. infiltrate backline with some instant burst =) It's not always the same, she has like 4 different viable combos .-. not just Q E W R .-. AND BY ALL THAT IS HOLY. EXPLAIN HOW IS SHUNPO NOT SMOOTH. i keep playing kat over and over again and i do not see what you people mean by it. That ability is so clean. The animation, cast time (take it into consideration and you will not have awkward moments), She even has like a wind up in that small cast time which i personally love. like she is getting ready to shunpo and you can even see it, it's the best. In terms of use. If she had instant shunpo reset on dagger pick up she would have 80% ban rate simple as that. i think that is rather obvious. Any champ feels horrible in SOME situations as you say. Even irelia/akali .-. It's all part of the champions gameplay.
Rioter Comments
Nyandere (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Nyandere,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=auI0Wh8B,comment-id=002d000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-01T09:02:04.800+0000) > > There were tonnes on the forums at the time. I remember polls with the popular vote being against the reworks as well. > You want me to pull up a post from years ago, because your memory is bad/you&#x27;re delusional? Lmao. > > Every champ in the assassin rework/all the items were complained about, because they were, and are all horrible designs. > > Who cares about reddit? You need a third platform to circlejerk, and have bad grammar on? What did you eat last year today? oh can't remember nice memory :D if it was on the forums/ and u commented on you can easily find it in your boards profile can't you? Google didn't help much either right? Ironic that you call me delusional. You have no proof and are making random claims and call me delusional. hmmmmmmmm Also if no one cares about reddit why should anyone care about the boards? like come on dude. at least try to make some sense.
Nyandere (NA)
: I, and many others complained immediately, because she is incredibly unsatisfying to play as, and against. It has nothing to do with power.
> [{quoted}](name=Nyandere,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=auI0Wh8B,comment-id=002d0000,timestamp=2018-10-01T08:48:06.380+0000) > > I, and many others complained immediately, because she is incredibly unsatisfying to play as, and against. It has nothing to do with power. Hmmm i did not see you or any others in katarina subreddit, forums complaining about her after the assassin rework. hmmmmmmm. show a post around that time where you complained?
Auzyris (EUW)
: I am a Katarina main since beta and I would like to adress her issues
Oh my god another thread about this. i beg of you just stop. KATARINA IS FINE NOW! she is strong (if u know how to play her), balanced assassin. I swear to god, the only reason people complain about kat is cause they can't get a single penta anymore, i promise you that is the only reason why people complain about her. Only thing that needs to be changed is Gunblade but not katarina. No one complained about her when she was pick/ban status in the assassin rework, but after she fell down and now is weak midlane people start complaining. Pathetic.
Emperador (EUW)
: Since world is coming, there are two points i would like to show
Rioter Comments
: Thank you Art Team for more Kittys <3
I approve of this anything related to kitty {{champion:55}} is appreciated, please more offerings like this.
KazKaz (OCE)
: "It is like saying jhin is broken while stormrazor exists. it is just stupid to say that." Hurr durr.
> [{quoted}](name=ShunposCastTime,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p0xecMAK,comment-id=001700010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-29T11:24:11.295+0000) > > &quot;It is like saying jhin is broken while stormrazor exists. it is just stupid to say that.&quot; > > Hurr durr. So let me clarify since you clearly do not understand. Remove stormrazor and jhin is back to being trash tier. understand?
KazKaz (OCE)
: Ok, so let me cover each point you've made. >You get to cast your ability faster which in sense makes your burst faster with less counterplay. Not true actually since her daggers are her form of burst, she still has to wait for them to drop. >How is it a QoL change? you do realise most of the awkward interactions on kat is because of gunblade? right? right? Again, her awkward interactions are not to do with Gunblade, they're to do with E's cast time. Gunblade doesn't cause her to get hit by disjointed damage through autos/abilities and Gunblade doesn't cause her to have buffering inconsistencies, that's the cast time's fault. > It is like saying jhin is broken while stormrazor exists. it is just stupid to say that. Jhin IS broken while Stormrazor exists. He quite literally has a 53--54% win rate and a 20%+ pick rate. That and his passive is again acting up with a newly introduced AD item like it did with Guinsoo's. >ALSO the cast times purpose is to stop spamming E to stop scripters and give counterplay. Stop scripters? You mean all 2 Kat scripters because scripting is dead outside of Xerath and Kog'maw? Scripting would still be awful on her due to her daggers, similar to how Draven scripts are awful due to the scripts complete dependence on catching axes every time or its ignorance of the axes; only in this case it would be daggers. Give counterplay? You mean she doesn't already have enough with her dagger drop times? I find that hard to believe. >if u can stun kat while she presses E that is good counterplay. there is a reason why she is balanced... zed can W instantly and cant be stunned while he presses W and everyone says his W is broken. do you see a pattern? People don't actually say his W is broken, they say his general damage and ult are broken. His W is the least complained about ability he has outside of his Shadow's E slowing and his Shadow's Shuriken doing too much damage. Also Zed can be stunned "out" of his W, it's just that the stun occurs at the end of the ability. It's literally the same as Kat's E now and it would be the same even if the cast time got removed, only it would be more consistent and fair for the Kat player. What isn't good counterplay is when an ability punishes you for trying to use it defensively. Kat's only defensive tool is her Shunpo, and due to the removal of ward hops it's not exactly a great defensive tool. While yes I can agree that she should be using it offensively more than defensively I do not agree with the existence of the cast time mostly because of the fact that you get hit with CC and damage at the end of Shunpo, despite you making the first move. Shunpo's cast time is so long that most other abilities used 2nd will still hit Kat. I wouldn't say that that's very fun for either side. I should also note again that even if the cast time were to be removed she could still be stunned at the end of her E and before she casts E and you could still predict her exact end location due to it being targeted and ward hopping being gone. Also, Katarina is not currently balanced, she's underpowered. Most Kat mains agree on this, especially those who play in the higher echelons of play. Ask any high elo Kat main about Kat and they'll say she's garbage and a borderline troll pick. That's not balanced.....
> [{quoted}](name=ShunposCastTime,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p0xecMAK,comment-id=0017000100000000,timestamp=2018-09-28T23:23:14.282+0000) > > Ok, so let me cover each point you&#x27;ve made. > > Not true actually since her daggers are her form of burst, she still has to wait for them to drop. > > Again, her awkward interactions are not to do with Gunblade, they&#x27;re to do with E&#x27;s cast time. Gunblade doesn&#x27;t cause her to get hit by disjointed damage through autos/abilities and Gunblade doesn&#x27;t cause her to have buffering inconsistencies, that&#x27;s the cast time&#x27;s fault. > > Jhin IS broken while Stormrazor exists. He quite literally has a 53--54% win rate and a 20%+ pick rate. > That and his passive is again acting up with a newly introduced AD item like it did with Guinsoo&#x27;s. > > Stop scripters? You mean all 2 Kat scripters because scripting is dead outside of Xerath and Kog&#x27;maw? Scripting would still be awful on her due to her daggers, similar to how Draven scripts are awful due to the scripts complete dependence on catching axes every time or its ignorance of the axes; only in this case it would be daggers. > > Give counterplay? You mean she doesn&#x27;t already have enough with her dagger drop times? I find that hard to believe. > > People don&#x27;t actually say his W is broken, they say his general damage and ult are broken. His W is the least complained about ability he has outside of his Shadow&#x27;s E slowing and his Shadow&#x27;s Shuriken doing too much damage. Also Zed can be stunned &quot;out&quot; of his W, it&#x27;s just that the stun occurs at the end of the ability. It&#x27;s literally the same as Kat&#x27;s E now and it would be the same even if the cast time got removed, only it would be more consistent and fair for the Kat player. > > What isn&#x27;t good counterplay is when an ability punishes you for trying to use it defensively. Kat&#x27;s only defensive tool is her Shunpo, and due to the removal of ward hops it&#x27;s not exactly a great defensive tool. While yes I can agree that she should be using it offensively more than defensively I do not agree with the existence of the cast time mostly because of the fact that you get hit with CC and damage at the end of Shunpo, despite you making the first move. Shunpo&#x27;s cast time is so long that most other abilities used 2nd will still hit Kat. I wouldn&#x27;t say that that&#x27;s very fun for either side. > > I should also note again that even if the cast time were to be removed she could still be stunned at the end of her E and before she casts E and you could still predict her exact end location due to it being targeted and ward hopping being gone. > > Also, Katarina is not currently balanced, she&#x27;s underpowered. Most Kat mains agree on this, especially those who play in the higher echelons of play. Ask any high elo Kat main about Kat and they&#x27;ll say she&#x27;s garbage and a borderline troll pick. That&#x27;s not balanced..... Did you even bother understanding any of my points? or u just scroll through and make a reply that doesn't even cover any of my points in any way? Like seriously if katarina is underpowered? how come i get a penta with her at diamond rank every 5-10 games? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm You did not understand the jhin sentence whatsoever if you think scripting is dead, oh boi you are wrong give counterplay ye her E cast time is another form of counterplay. No one says zeds W is broken? are you sure about that? i can link at the very least 30 threads complaining about just that one ability rather than just zed. If cast time from E is removed that interaction you just said is not possible anymore. Katarina right now IS LITERALLY THE MOST BALANCED CHAMP IN GAME how is she not balanced? she can easily do damage reliably always be useful without the chance of bursting a tank in 0.5 due to her damage output not being as insane as other assassins. I am high elo? and i say she is really good now
KazKaz (OCE)
: How is removing Shunpo's cast time a mega buff? Please do explain.
> [{quoted}](name=ShunposCastTime,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p0xecMAK,comment-id=00170001,timestamp=2018-09-28T11:53:51.520+0000) > > How is removing Shunpo&#x27;s cast time a mega buff? Please do explain. How is it not? please explain? You get to cast your ability faster which in sense makes your burst faster with less counterplay. How is it a QoL change? you do realise most of the awkward interactions on kat is because of gunblade? right? right? It is like saying jhin is broken while stormrazor exists. it is just stupid to say that. ALSO the cast times purpose is to stop spamming E to stop scripters and give counterplay. if u can stun kat while she presses E that is good counterplay. there is a reason why she is balanced... zed can W instantly and cant be stunned while he presses W and everyone says his W is broken. do you see a pattern?
: [MEGATHREAD] Let's Discuss: Katarina & Evelynn
Ugh not this again. Katarina needs no changes she is currently the pinnacle of a balanced assassin, she feels very rewarding and smooth to play (especially shunpo) she is the one champ that literally should be untouched for 2 years now, she is completely fine. Everything about her is great, nothing to change in terms of numbers or QoL changes. Only thing that needs changing is hextech gunblades damage simple as that. Removing cast time from an ability on katarina means scripters are gonna use her more for scripting (like the KittyCatKatarina script) rather than xerath, secondly i dont want to see wannabe kat players just SPAM E as quickly as possible after getting 1 kill, her cast time on shunpo is what makes her balanced and enjoyable if she has no cast time she will become hated again as a skilless champ with a 40% ban rate. I do not want that. Keep her the way she is. and stop making these threads every month requesting straight up buffs to kat that would make her borderline broken. REMOVING CAST TIME IS NOT A QoL CHANGE IT IS A MEGA BUFF!
saltran (EUW)
: Ambition climbing to take down the 3 times world champion Faker. And then the teams of this year start to climb aswell, I like the idea.
> [{quoted}](name=saltran,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bfBEoImP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-26T13:29:16.694+0000) > > Ambition climbing to take down the 3 times world champion Faker. > > And then the teams of this year start to climb aswell, I like the idea. That i know :D wasn't abstract enough to not understand that.
Rioter Comments
: Given the kind of things the boards post, I hope they never do. The second they ever do, that will be the actual death of the game. Also, something you seemingly missed in that same article: League is still in the number 3 spot.
> [{quoted}](name=AvantelWings,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=24idu7sg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-26T05:06:57.991+0000) > > Given the kind of things the boards post, I hope they never do. > > The second they ever do, that will be the actual death of the game. > > Also, something you seemingly missed in that same article: League is still in the number 3 spot. Dropped 2 spots from 1#. also no need to ask the boards. ask any pro player for balance tips/ high elo competent player/stream? but of course riot do know best right? so buff damage more.... geez.
Tesladin (EUW)
: Still 80 million players
> [{quoted}](name=Tesladin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=G8xsIbG3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-26T06:26:36.292+0000) > > Still 80 million players barely 25*
: Why are so many league players always hating on Riot?
Idk why people are unhappy. (pros saying damage is too high, streamers say the same, high elo , low elo, any elo say the same) i really can't put my finger on this. why are people so unhappy? *thinking emoji*
saltran (EUW)
: New K-POP Evelynn, Kai'Sa and Akali skins (and Ahri?)
Geez you just look at their faces for the splash arts... genuinely disgusting... this can't be real. Anything apart from ahri seems too low quality. Let's be honest the skin department in riot is keeping this game alive so hard, simply cause they do a good job with skins, but this is genuinely terrible in terms of actual art and looks. and that ass on kaisa? excuse me that is more disgustingly large than widowmakers ass from overwatch. I refuse to believe that this is real. I am disliking on these skins even though i play ahri/eve quite a bit. rarely even kaisa. so i aint biased.
: Favorite Classic Champion Splash Art?
: Doesn't mean that people complaining about Zed being op are right.
> [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=O7HATKMw,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-25T11:24:16.920+0000) > > Doesn't mean that people complaining about Zed being op are right. but he is? have you not seen the countless times where zeds while not being fed pop squishies without ulti? + with ulti he can pop bruisers with tanky items .-. is that not the prime definition of overpowered?
FéliXXX (EUW)
: he s playing him cos hes losing a lot of viewers btw he didnt say he wont play him anymore he just took a break of playing that garbage champ he knows more about the champ than u 100% so saying that the champ is not weak is false af well at least he has a lot of good points u r just a salty silver
> [{quoted}](name=FéliXXX,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=O7HATKMw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-09-25T07:50:26.745+0000) > > he s playing him cos hes losing a lot of viewers btw he didnt say he wont play him anymore he just took a break of playing that garbage champ he knows more about the champ than u 100% so saying that the champ is not weak is false af well at least he has a lot of good points u r just a salty silver he stopped playing him for 20 hours... dude. he played him the very next day. BREAK BTW
: Kai'sa already getting more love than her dad
Maining kassadin when he is approaching his legendary 97% banrate. nice no love for an op champ lol?
: "Ivern" name is a scrabble version of Riven
: 8.19 Fail Notes
kassadins ban rate is 30% off the infamous 97% pick/ban kassadin times :)))
: Silver players: Let yourself be carried
Same can be said about every rank. trust me there are many many diamonds/plat who play like they just first installed the game.
Dat Kat (EUW)
: Gun Goddess Miss Fortune's ULTIMATE flaw.
indie company it would cost millions of dollars for them to fix this minor mistake that any game art designer could do in 15 minutes.
: I play this game for the plot
[https://imgur.com/a/0R9nezU](https://imgur.com/a/0R9nezU) ugh cant get a good preview picture on .-. THIS IS THE REAL PLOT!
: Unsportmanship in this game is getting higher
saying ggwp when someone feeds in ur team. SPORTSMANSHIP BTW!!!! double standarts
: How are people like this not banned?
getting 12 deaths in odyssey. you have to try to do that. you cant get them if u dont try to get deaths.
: A little tenderness in this board (cut cat Ahri, Evelynn, Yi and Nami
: He is OP but not massively more like significantly OP. Yes he should be nerfed but calm down with the exaggeration.
> [{quoted}](name=LeAnime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=49dHYUHE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-22T23:35:37.488+0000) > > He is OP but not massively more like significantly OP. Yes he should be nerfed but calm down with the exaggeration. re read what u just said .-. and then read the title .-.
: Mentally ill weebs your Katarina waifu isn't real and she's not gonna change the outcome of a war
> [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=YBOYYIZU,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-09-21T15:39:16.713+0000) > > Mentally ill weebs your Katarina waifu isn't real and she's not gonna change the outcome of a war obvious troll is obvious xd enjoy report
: Implementation of incoming chat from other players toggle
you can mute all :) mute chat, mute pings mute emotes.
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