: It's always been like this? just buy them when they're on sale, i understand this shit feels more like masteries for which you got 20 free pages but like, i had to pay for mine too. I've got 7 atm, and i'll probably try to get this shit done in lobby now.
> [{quoted}](name=Jerry SeinfeId,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qkuEEEWV,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2017-11-08T15:12:32.446+0000) > > It's always been like this? just buy them when they're on sale, i understand this shit feels more like masteries for which you got 20 free pages but like, i had to pay for mine too. I've got 7 atm, and i'll probably try to get this shit done in lobby now. soooo they are NEVER on sale......
Saezio (EUNE)
: You remember that 20k back then wasn't even 4 EMPTY rune pages right? Those events you mention. If you played casualy you wouldn't get anything, + most of the time it was bonus ip weekend that only scaled up if you had a 5-man premade, which a casual player like you wouldn't have, if you played 2-3 games a week. You obviously played more then if you got 15k IP in a week. + those events were just that, events. We get free skins now so fuck the IP. How many free skins did we get with the old system? That's right 0. now we get upwards of 10 skins per year without money. I remember when I hit level 30 in early season 2 I didn't even have 10 champs. I bet if I start an account right now, I will have way more champs by the time I hit level 30. And it was also proven.. I was able to buy one 4800-6300 champ per month if I was lucky + I played daily more than 2-3 games.
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VEos07lv,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-11T21:14:32.316+0000) > > You remember that 20k back then wasn't even 4 EMPTY rune pages right? > Those events you mention. If you played casualy you wouldn't get anything, + most of the time it was bonus ip weekend that only scaled up if you had a 5-man premade, which a casual player like you wouldn't have, if you played 2-3 games a week. > > You obviously played more then if you got 15k IP in a week. + those events were just that, events. We get free skins now so fuck the IP. How many free skins did we get with the old system? That's right 0. now we get upwards of 10 skins per year without money. > > I remember when I hit level 30 in early season 2 I didn't even have 10 champs. I bet if I start an account right now, I will have way more champs by the time I hit level 30. And it was also proven.. > I was able to buy one 4800-6300 champ per month if I was lucky + I played daily more than 2-3 games. I've played more during the events back in the day, yes. And only for the events tbh. I don't have such free time anymore, that's why I said I've been struggling to buy a new champ for the past year. The leveling takes forever, or at least feels like it takes forever. You are lv 200, obviously a lot of hours in the game, no?
Saezio (EUNE)
: Well, how much BE would you get if you disenchanted all your shards? You can also upgrade them. It seems like you want the best of both BE and IP system. If with the IP system you played 2-3 games a week you would take longer to get the same amount of IP. (provided you disenchant all shards) how did you come to the conclusion unker139 is a regular? He never said how long it took him to get his BE or champs. Keeping the shards is like owning 1/3 of the champ or so. So divide the number of shards you got in the period by 3 and you will see how many champions you have unlocked
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VEos07lv,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-11T19:43:43.845+0000) > > Well, how much BE would you get if you disenchanted all your shards? You can also upgrade them. It seems like you want the best of both BE and IP system. If with the IP system you played 2-3 games a week you would take longer to get the same amount of IP. (provided you disenchant all shards) > > how did you come to the conclusion unker139 is a regular? > He never said how long it took him to get his BE or champs. > > Keeping the shards is like owning 1/3 of the champ or so. So divide the number of shards you got in the period by 3 and you will see how many champions you have unlocked Not true if you remember the party of x5 IP events happening twice an year, you could easily make 15k IP in a week with less efford. Some players used to make 45k+ if they played without rest. It's really impossible for me to make 15k BE in a month now and no such events exist anymore. The total BE would be between 20-30k, if I Disenchant right now everything I have, but I want to save the shards to buy champs with upgrade. That's why I disenchant only doubles. unker139 is a regular to me based on match history/ level and quick math. https://wol.gg/stats/na/unker139/ https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=unker139 Me: https://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=Lutein https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/EUN1/220092575
Mr Elessar (EUNE)
: Define "casual player".
> [{quoted}](name=Mr Elessar,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VEos07lv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-11T18:43:25.007+0000) > > Define "casual player". > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VEos07lv,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-02-11T19:17:12.165+0000) > > How many games do you play per week? I find your claims inaccurate since I, personally have been amassing BE much faster than I was gathering IP. > As a casual player you should also thank riot for changing runes thus making you not have to spend upwards of half a million IP in runes and pages. To play from time to time and not aim for everyday win exp. I have been gaining a level/month so far for playing 2-3 days/ week with 1 game a day (win or lose doesn't matter), I am still around lv 85 only, most of my shards are still shards, because I want to have at least 1 shard for a champ and Disenchant only repeatables. My Total BE is 7800 atm, after farming an year for it. I have been playing since 2009 and have around 1000 hours total playtime over the 10 years. > [{quoted}](name=Unker139,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VEos07lv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-11T18:42:05.877+0000) > > I'm a casual player with 25 champs - a dozen of which I've never played. I have 15K be and 37 champion shards. I can unlock champions far faster than I can learn them. I don't see a problem. This is the definition of a new regular player who plays at least one game a day. Most of the time aiming for a daily win. AND doing ALL events so far. Not casual at all.
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Håppy (NA)
: Pyke is.. awfully designed.
ARGHT! I hate this champion, 1 hit Penta kill in 99% of all games in the new blitz mode. WTF RIOT, BALANCE HIM, it's OUT OF CONTROL!
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Riot's philosophy finally turned the game into dogshit after so much years
Why does everybody play {{champion:63}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:119}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:145}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:141}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:96}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:64}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:21}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:497}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:26}} {{champion:142}} ONLY Ah, because the other champs are either nerfed or suck at one shotting/dpsing Njoy league of only a few champs. so much unbalance, maybe that's why collecting BE takes 4ever - so you have just about enough to buy {{champion:157}} and forget the rest of the champs.
: Group Xp
DO IT. Old IP system was so so so so much player friendly and had good bonuses, now we can't farm BE AT ALL!!!!!!
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Mortdog (NA)
: Blue Essence Earn Rates - Learning the Numbers with Carl and Henrietta
> [{quoted}](name=Mortdog,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=Jh3Mtzu6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-08T20:15:42.685+0000) > And this is BEFORE one more consideration. Let’s say you drop a Jinx shard which DE’s for 1,240 Blue Essence. If you need to unlock Jinx, you can use the Shard to get her for an extra 20% off. This means instead of paying 6,300 Blue Essence, you actually only pay 3,780 and use the shard. You basically get DOUBLE the BE value if you need that champ. So if you’re a new player who wants to unlock all the champions, each time you drop a champ you still need, we’ve greatly increased your IP/BE gain even more. “ If you need to unlock Jinx, you can use the Shard to get her for an extra 20% off. This means instead of paying 6,300 Blue Essence, you actually only pay 3,780 and use the shard. You basically get DOUBLE the BE value if you need that champ. “ you say? 1240(Shard worth)+3780(Upgrade price) = 5020 used BE. It's cheaper than 6300 with 1280 BE so it's 5% off only, not 20%, you don't actually earn 2x BE value, you didn't consider the shard value!

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