: Only possible on draven and pyke….you can kill the entire enemy team 3 times over by 12 minutes and still not be full build on your "assassins" meanwhile they can. If you are gonna say any assassin can do it then you are being incredibly generic since almost any champ can be an assassin.
> [{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=00090000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-09-18T20:35:11.571+0000) > > Only possible on draven and pyke….you can kill the entire enemy team 3 times over by 12 minutes and still not be full build on your "assassins" meanwhile they can. Then go and abuse them if they are so fucking strong just stop whining like a baby about champs. Mother of god, no wonder LS doesnt respect NA. > If you are gonna say any assassin can do it then you are being incredibly generic since almost any champ can be an assassin. Yea im pretty sure soraka can burst you down as fast as Zed can lel
: > If you play a roll that depends on having competent teammates, like me, having competent teammates is a relevant factor. Anyone playing League with that mindset won't climb. Sometimes you get that player who's filled and all you need to do is explain your gameplan and how you intend to play. If you want to play a passive lane phase, just tell them this and discourage aggressive plays in lane with proper positioning. Everyone wants to be the playmaker but sometimes the correct play is to avoid conflict until the rest of your team's composition comes online. The other half of this is having a mechanically simple champion in mind for when you do get autofilled. My favorites for this are Ezreal as an ADC and Lux as a Support. It's very simple to play these champions at a basic level (but with Lux in my mid lane pool, I have more playtime on her and as such, I play like I'm playing Mid Lane minus the farming). > And those numbers could be halved if instead of trolls/afk/4fun players/autofills you get players who know their shit. If you do the math, the split is actually 40/40/20. You'll win 40 games out of 100 no matter what and you'll lose 40 games out of 100 no matter what. The other 20 are a tossup and it's up to you to figure out how to win. You're going to get 4fun players from time to time, but just cause they're playing for fun doesn't mean they don't care about winning. They just aren't going to get mad over it. Trolls happen, best thing to do is keep a cool head and report them after the game. (The reports do add up and eventually they will get punished for it.) People AFK out of games for a number of reasons and Riot's system understands the occasional AFK because Life Happens. The system also punishes frequent leavers with a lengthy timer. Eventually those players will learn... or they won't. (I just got pushed up to the 10 min wait step from 20 min step by just not leaving. I'm not going to leave games if I don't have to because it means I have to wait, and I don't want to wait. Therefore I'm going to behave.) Autofill happens. It's how they keep queue timers low. It sucks when they do happen but there are a few ways to mitigate the impact: 1) Ask them what their main role is and be open to swapping. People have their main roles for a reason, and putting them on their main role makes them much more likely to try-hard and go for that win. It also makes you look good, too. 2) Encourage them to play a simpler champion. A champion with fewer mechanics is harder to screw up at a basic level. (In the case of a Support, Top Lane, or Jungle, encourage playing a Tank. Tanks scale very well into the game, have simple to execute engage, and great crowd control which means they will always be useful no matter if ahead or behind. All they have to do is execute on their engage appropriately.) It's on you to not flame them for mistakes. Flame = Loss. Period. 3) Dodge. This is obviously not the best situation for anyone but it's important to remember that - even at the highest level - players dodge. A lot. Dodge as a last resort. (I dodge when I feel like the game will go poorly for me because I'm filled. It only cost me 3-10 LP every time but as long as I preserve my MMR I can recover from having to dodge.) If you're the autofilled one, it's OK to ask people to swap, but be respectful. 9 times out of 10 people swap me out of Support or ADC because I ask respectfully and inform them that forcing me to play the role is not optimal and has a higher chance of ending in a Loss.
> [{quoted}](name=Famous Gay Actor,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=euhXa127,comment-id=0001000200000001,timestamp=2019-09-18T21:43:34.839+0000) > > Anyone playing League with that mindset won't climb. Sometimes you get that player who's filled and all you need to do is explain your gameplan and how you intend to play. If you want to play a passive lane phase, just tell them this and discourage aggressive plays in lane with proper positioning. Mate, I dont have time to type the whole Bible of how to play the game. I expect players in ranked to know their shit. You cant do that? Gtfo on norms. > Everyone wants to be the playmaker but sometimes the correct play is to avoid conflict until the rest of your team's composition comes online. Bold of you to assume SoloQ players will do that...at least on EUNE, which is why I transfered on EUW. Players actually have brains there. > The other half of this is having a mechanically simple champion in mind for when you do get autofilled. My favorites for this are Ezreal as an ADC and Lux as a Support. It's very simple to play these champions at a basic level (but with Lux in my mid lane pool, I have more playtime on her and as such, I play like I'm playing Mid Lane minus the farming). > Im a supp main, I never get autofilled. > If you do the math, the split is actually 40/40/20. You'll win 40 games out of 100 no matter what and you'll lose 40 games out of 100 no matter what. The other 20 are a tossup and it's up to you to figure out how to win. You're going to get 4fun players from time to time, but just cause they're playing for fun doesn't mean they don't care about winning. They just aren't going to get mad over it. Mate....thats just a madeup pile of shit from riot. It's as legit as when they say youre among 0.0006% of permabanned players....for 5-6 years now. Its totally legit that number never went up for couple of years now xD And by that logic if I went to play 10 ranked games, i should only tryhard for 2 games, and not care about the other 8 because ill win 4 and lose 4 no matter what xD Thats a dogshit logic, suitable for this company hahaha > Trolls happen, best thing to do is keep a cool head and report them after the game. (The reports do add up and eventually they will get punished for it.) Which would be okay if it was just once in a while, but holy shit its rampant at this point. ffs Look at doms vids he made while playing on EUW. Every 2nd vid of his has some1 inting him. Look at TFBlade while he was in Turkey. he got inted by 4 HIGH CHALL PLAYERS IN ONE GAME. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT OKAY FOR RIOT?? And youre telling me "keep a cool head"?? Yea sure dude, when some1 ints me ill just smile and be like "haHAA this is so fun ahahahahahhahahahahahhahhuHHhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahah I love League of Legends" fuck off with that shit. This shit makes me want to make an NA acc and traget int you jsut so i can tell you KEEP A COOL HEAD BRO LULW holy shit i played several rankeds toay but i never thought some dude telling me to calm down will tilt me so much. Jokes aside, sry but as some1 who wants to get better at this game, getting trolled is rly discouraging and makes me want to quit the game. I cant stabnd having my time and LP wasted because riot refuses to do shit about it. Ill jsut advise you to watch the latest Facecheck episode, dom rly well explains to what lenghts hes going to expose inters to riot only for them to not o shit about it. > People AFK out of games for a number of reasons and Riot's system understands the occasional AFK because Life Happens. The system also punishes frequent leavers with a lengthy timer. Eventually those players will learn... or they won't. (I just got pushed up to the 10 min wait step from 20 min step by just not leaving. I'm not going to leave games if I don't have to because it means I have to wait, and I don't want to wait. Therefore I'm going to behave.) 1. That "Life happens" is just bs. I sure od believe dude has to go afk because a dog is raping his mother (and yea, I had a guy making that excuse before dc-ing) And that punishment isnt enought. When it becomes like csgo where you can have up to 1 week ban from ranked, then we'll be gucci > Autofill happens. It's how they keep queue timers low. It sucks when they do happen but there are a few ways to mitigate the impact: > 1) Ask them what their main role is and be open to swapping. People have their main roles for a reason, and putting them on their main role makes them much more likely to try-hard and go for that win. It also makes you look good, too. > 2) Encourage them to play a simpler champion. A champion with fewer mechanics is harder to screw up at a basic level. (In the case of a Support, Top Lane, or Jungle, encourage playing a Tank. Tanks scale very well into the game, have simple to execute engage, and great crowd control which means they will always be useful no matter if ahead or behind. All they have to do is execute on their engage appropriately.) It's on you to not flame them for mistakes. Flame = Loss. Period. > 3) Dodge. This is obviously not the best situation for anyone but it's important to remember that - even at the highest level - players dodge. A lot. Dodge as a last resort. (I dodge when I feel like the game will go poorly for me because I'm filled. It only cost me 3-10 LP every time but as long as I preserve my MMR I can recover from having to dodge.) > 1. Last time I gave supp to some1 else, he soft inted and rq the game 2. And they wont listen to you, as ususal. 3. Im already doing that, > If you're the autofilled one, it's OK to ask people to swap, but be respectful. 9 times out of 10 people swap me out of Support or ADC because I ask respectfully and inform them that forcing me to play the role is not optimal and has a higher chance of ending in a Loss. Im autofill protected cfonstantly because i main support.
: It's more likely that people are ignorant of the fact that they aren't the only player on the team. If you have a poor start, the best thing to do is figure out who came out alright and who has the highest chance of being the win condition. Sometimes you just have to finish the game 1/9/16 so that your fed ADC Jinx can get that 15/5/1 finish - gotta have that token assist so people can't say you're not a team player XD.
> [{quoted}](name=Famous Gay Actor,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=euhXa127,comment-id=00010003,timestamp=2019-09-18T21:23:30.981+0000) > > It's more likely that people are ignorant of the fact that they aren't the only player on the team. If you have a poor start, the best thing to do is figure out who came out alright and who has the highest chance of being the win condition. Sometimes you just have to finish the game 1/9/16 so that your fed ADC Jinx can get that 15/5/1 finish - gotta have that token assist so people can't say you're not a team player XD. Its not about having good or bad score, its about knowing the fundementals of the game, which is something players in my elo dont know at all nowadays...unlike in season 7 where you could have good coordination with teammates who know their shit....in SILVER 5
: I don't know man. LIke I said, it's ludicrous that any champ could be full build by level 12. I don't know how else to explain that. You're clearly a Pyke player, and thats fine, but his kit is overloaded. So because I don't play a lot of ranked I can't want a balanced game? I still play it, but the whole point is i WANT to enjoy it.
> [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=000900000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-18T17:14:31.623+0000) > > You're clearly a Pyke player, and thats fine, but his kit is overloaded. No i idnt play pyke for a long time now, I mostly play Leona and Naut. And no his kit is not overloaded, its just that season 9 players dont want to learn the game. You know whats overloaded? When a champ has stuff in its kit that makes no sense gameplay wise. Example: Yasuo having double crit and shield he gets by walking and him getting 50% armor pen and a full shield. There is no logical reason from the gameplay perspective to give him those things. Pyke getting extra gold on ult kill makes sense. Imagine if we completely removed Cut from his ult. He could still execute enemies but there would be a few problems: 1. Teammates that actually need kills wouldnt get that extra gold from letting Pyke a kill 2. Wouldnt get enough gold to buy items he needs, which are usually meant for solo lanes, which are more expensive 3. He doesnt benefit much from regular supp items because none of them give extra ad, and he cant get extra HP from items. 4. Technically speaking it would be pointless to allow pyke to kill enemies with his ult. Which is why he needs that extra gold from ulti. It's what makes him useful as a support. Wanna get rid of that? Okay then, but give him back his waveclear. Otherwise there would be no point in picking him. > So because I don't play a lot of ranked I can't want a balanced game? I still play it, but the whole point is i WANT to enjoy it. And thats the problem. You want to enjoy the game. Enjoyment is subjective. If you put enjoyment/fun in front of balance you will have champs like TK being completely gutted even when he was already weak as a support because casual player want to have fun by taking anything they want and brute force the laning phase and win every time. Which is something TK didnt allow because of his kit and how riot changed him to be good at fighting. And despite TK being able to be countered, because top laners didnt "enjoy" playing vs him, riot gutted him even more. Because of this, he's now a dead champ. If you think gutting champs to the point they're a troll pick is "balance", then you know shit about balance. All in all you dont want balance, you want to "enjoy the game" YOUR WAY, without considering how would that actually affect the champ. And because riot listened people like you we're now in this damage burst meta.
Arakadia (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cG7AnpnU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-18T11:45:36.835+0000) > > No they're just still acting like a "small indie company". Why do people always quote this like it's something Riot actually said?
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=cG7AnpnU,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-18T17:26:05.219+0000) > > Why do people always quote this like it's something Riot actually said? They didnt, I just put it in quotation marks because they aint a small indie company anymore, but they're behaving like they still are.
: Yeah, I had a kid a couple years ago. So i really just have time to get to my old rank and then tag out. If I'm the common Plat player, then absolutely, the quality of plat players is really low. In all honesty, the chances of me staying plat if I actually played ranked would be low because I just don't have time (or the want to) to be really good at the game. I like playing too many different champs and norms with friends. All that being said, I don't know why anything (outside of making yourself feel better) about my own personal rank has to do with the important part of my post. Even in a game when I went 44-4 as J4, I didn't hit full build until level 16-17. Pyke's gold income (in conjunction with the other parts of his kit) is unneeded, too easy to access, and too easy to proc.
> [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=0009000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-18T16:23:41.623+0000) > > Yeah, I had a kid a couple years ago. So i really just have time to get to my old rank and then tag out. If I'm the common Plat player, then absolutely, the quality of plat players is really low. In all honesty, the chances of me staying plat if I actually played ranked would be low because I just don't have time (or the want to) to be really good at the game. I like playing too many different champs and norms with friends. You dont have time to play ranked but you have time to play norms and complain about a champ because you had 1 game where you popped off. Interesting. > All that being said, I don't know why anything (outside of making yourself feel better) about my own personal rank has to do with the important part of my post. Even in a game when I went 44-4 as J4, I didn't hit full build until level 16-17. Pyke's gold income (in conjunction with the other parts of his kit) is unneeded, too easy to access, and too easy to proc. And? Would you be able to be full build at min 12 if you were even or behind the enemy laners? No you wouldnt. You got fed an were able to get items early on because of it. As it should be. Youre just complaining for the sake of complaining. Besides, since youre only sticking to norms, why do you care about champ balance? Just play the game and enjoy with your friends.
: ''makes me want to kik a toddler in the fucking jaw.'' get help dude, like a therapist for real, if a videogame makes you feel like that then stop playing it, and get help before you actually do something like that bro
> [{quoted}](name=Blessed By RNG,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=thd3ttxh,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-09-18T15:38:48.288+0000) > > ''makes me want to kik a toddler in the fucking jaw.'' get help dude, like a therapist for real, if a videogame makes you feel like that then stop playing it, and get help before you actually do something like that bro I...dont think he was serious about it. Just an over-the-top way to express his frustration.
: 100% would not be. Zed is absolutely more difficult to rack kills and gold up on. My point is the kill gold is too much, especially in light of the rest of his kit.
> [{quoted}](name=Horse Grenades ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=00090000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-18T14:18:31.444+0000) > > 100% would not be. > Zed is absolutely more difficult to rack kills and gold up on. My point is the kill gold is too much, especially in light of the rest of his kit. Yea it is..if you kill a lot of people, which for a plat like youself aint hard when you go on norms and body dogshit players xD Do that in ranked several times and then come back.... if you actually have balls to do it since you stopped playing ranked as soon as you hit plat 4 hahaha Quality of plat players is rly low these days huh? Back is season 7 and before we didnt have whiners like you in silver, let alone plat. Truly depressing.
: "PvE game modes cost too many resources"
> I'm starting to question where goes all that profit from skins... Riot acts like they're in bankruptcy and desperate. No they're just still acting like a "small indie company".
: 12 minutes.... That used to only be remotely possible on draven, but now youre saying any higher elo player can play any champ and do that? Okay, go smurf with {{champion:223}} in norms , try to get full build in 12 minutes.
> [{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=000900000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-18T05:19:23.215+0000) > > 12 minutes.... > > > That used to only be remotely possible on draven, but now youre saying any higher elo player can play any champ and do that? > > > Okay, go smurf with {{champion:223}} in norms , try to get full build in 12 minutes. Learn to read ty. I never said you can play ANY champ and do that. I said this: > And he could reach full build with any assassin given the circumstances. And the circumstances are the following: - plat player - playing normal game - playing against lower elo players - 1 game only I'm pretty sure if we give this guy to play zed in this situation the outcome would be more or less the same.
Ahri Baka (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2019-09-17T18:35:30.797+0000) > > And he could reach full build with any assassin given the circumstances. it's not very common for an assassin to reach full build at 12 , Zed and Talon or Kha never did that
> [{quoted}](name=Ahri Baka,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=0009000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-17T18:48:40.372+0000) > > it's not very common for an assassin to reach full build at 12 , Zed and Talon or Kha never did that Not if there is a higher elo player stomping low elo players on norms lmao
Saezio (EUNE)
: Duo has competitive advantage unless there is a duo in the same roles in the other team You can communicate faster via Voice + You know each other's tendencies and can have a plan before the game has even started. No matter how much you try to defend it, duo climbing is easier than solo climbing, especially for roles like support+adc or mid+jg
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wwXAE70s,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-17T11:07:08.626+0000) > > Duo has competitive advantage unless there is a duo in the same roles in the other team > You can communicate faster via Voice + You know each other's tendencies and can have a plan before the game has even started. > > No matter how much you try to defend it, duo climbing is easier than solo climbing, especially for roles like support+adc or mid+jg And its still irrelevant for two reason: 1. No matter how synced the duo is, if they're not rly good players individually, it means fuck all because you can still be outclassed. Even with comms. 2. You dont have that sort of communication with the rest of your team. Hell you could make the same argument for flexQ and it would actually hold, since you can be a 5-man premade against solo players. And if it was that easy to climb with duo partner, people would abuse it to hell and back and no1 would play solo. And yet some players are playing solo. So either some players love to play at a disadvantage or duoQ isnt an issue and it's just another excuse for bad players. If it's so easy to play DuoQ and climb then by all means use it. It's not like it's avaliable to every1. But im telling ya from my personal experience, as some1 who plays both solo and duo, its more or less the same, except you only need to worry about 3 teammates being absolute apes, not 4.
Ahri Baka (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-09-17T09:40:15.564+0000) > > 1. It's norms > 2. youre plat > > Any fucking idiot could take an assassin (yes, pyke is an assassin-support) and snowball. > If this can prove a champ is OP then oooo boy im about to hop on my low lvl acc and body some fools with any champ I want it to be nerfed xD The point of that the OP talking about is the fact that they reached full build in 12 Minutes , no champion can do that while a supportl like Pyke can.
> [{quoted}](name=Ahri Baka,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-09-17T13:07:30.041+0000) > > The point of that the OP talking about is the fact that they reached full build in 12 Minutes , no champion can do that while a supportl like Pyke can. And he could reach full build with any assassin given the circumstances.
: well, a 20% wr snowballed its game...how's possible?
> [{quoted}](name=RebeccaUCuber,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0YEWHrQG,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-09-17T08:21:23.677+0000) > > well, a 20% wr snowballed its game...how's possible? Every1 can have a good game once in a while...especially when it's a plat player playing normal game.
: I played a game as Pyke and snowballed..
1. It's norms 2. youre plat Any fucking idiot could take an assassin (yes, pyke is an assassin-support) and snowball. If this can prove a champ is OP then oooo boy im about to hop on my low lvl acc and body some fools with any champ I want it to be nerfed xD
Sydney26 (EUW)
: Duo has no place in a SoloQ! Your Opinion?
It's called solo/dduo queue if im not mistaken. And if we'll talk about "competitive experience" this are the things that we should have: - voice chat - being able to see exactly how is MM matching players aswell as being able to see our MMR - restricting low lvl mastery champs from being played in ranked - removing autofill - putting cooldowns on players on lose streak/if they get reported a lot for griefing - increasing requirements to play ranked (higher acc lvl, more champs required etc.) Duos have no effect on "competitive experience", no matter how much you try to justify it. atm, ranked in its core is not competitive what so ever. because of the things i said above.
Hotarµ (NA)
: Totally legitimate upvotes. Gotta love this board.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=h0jqQUHB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-16T02:05:43.849+0000) > > Totally legitimate upvotes. Gotta love this board. ? 6 upvotes in 17 hours, how are they not legit?
Cheini (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eH9Ekka9,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-09-15T15:49:38.710+0000) > > 1. This is on Korean server > 2. This pic is actually a year old mind that the internet (and google) are global, and the nicks can stay forever!
> [{quoted}](name=Cheini,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eH9Ekka9,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-15T19:29:00.034+0000) > > mind that the internet (and google) are global, and the nicks can stay forever! So? I dont think any1 will be bothered to make a korean acc justcto add this guy and flame him for something he did a year ago.
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=amERNuNI,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-09-15T10:05:25.581+0000) > > Your reasons would make sense if you werent able to find some1 to duo with. But you can. > So if you thinik playing duo is such a huge advantage, then play duo with some1, simple as that. didn't hashinshin do a challenge to get master/challenger and said that all the players there just duo? Even some of the videos, the plays they make are really odd because they've got another person with them lowering the requirements
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=amERNuNI,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-09-16T02:27:27.329+0000) > > didn't hashinshin do a challenge to get master/challenger and said that all the players there just duo? Even some of the videos, the plays they make are really odd because they've got another person with them lowering the requirements Just because he said it doesnt make it true. And even if people are duoing so what? At the end of the day, you still need to have an individual skill. Duoing wont automatically make you play better that every1 else on its own.
Saezio (EUNE)
: Because not being allowed to counterpick because you haven't played games on a champ in a specific account is just bullshit. I would take a challenger player on a champ they have never even read the skills before over someone that has been gold for 8 seasons on their main every day of the week. And if we are going to discriminate based on "experience on the champion" with the goal of "making ranked more competitive", I say lets disallow people to pick anything that they have a sub 48% winrate until they get it to 55% winrate in normals which would re-enable the champion. /s
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=91AVeReb,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-15T19:21:13.808+0000) > > Because not being allowed to counterpick because you haven't played games on a champ in a specific account is just bullshit. Counterpicking means shit if you dont know why X champ counters Y champ, which your Average Joe from avg. elo wouldnt know if he 1st times a champ.
Keiaga (NA)
: It means that someone first picking a champ has about as much chance to win as that xXEpicxYasuo02 with 500k mastery points.
> [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=91AVeReb,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-15T19:24:00.222+0000) > > It means that someone first picking a champ has about as much chance to win as that xXEpicxYasuo02 with 500k mastery points. Except that yasuo main prolly has more consistent performance unlike a 1st time yasuo player would have. Not to mention a 1st timer will most likely get carried unlike X Champ main. It also depends on champ ifficulty. It's not the same to 1st time garen and 1st time Katarina. And ofc depends on the elo. You might 1st time some1 and do good in low elo but in mid/high elo...not so good.
Keiaga (NA)
: I first-time picked Lux, Yuumi, Teemo and Kayle all in ranked and played them one time. I won each time.
> [{quoted}](name=Keiaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=91AVeReb,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-15T19:01:32.346+0000) > > I first-time picked Lux, Yuumi, Teemo and Kayle all in ranked and played them one time. > > I won each time. Which means nothing.
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> [{quoted}](name=DaenrysTargaryen,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eH9Ekka9,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-15T15:27:53.126+0000) > > I have removed the picture as it did show the username of a player, which follows the Naming and Shaming rule: > > If you have any question about this action please do not hesitate to visit us at > > * [The Boards Discord](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification) > * [Discuss the Boards](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) > > Thanks. 1. This is on Korean server 2. This pic is actually a year old
Hjelp (NA)
: These boards are too filled with repetitive negativity.
Yesterday I transfered to EUW and played 2 ranked games, and both of them felt way more enjoyable than the vast majority of games I played on EUNE this season. Especially 2nd game where I had to actually think about what I'm doing and be focused.
: Can we make SoloQ solo only?
Your reasons would make sense if you werent able to find some1 to duo with. But you can. So if you thinik playing duo is such a huge advantage, then play duo with some1, simple as that.
: why i dont even bother reporting feeders and trolls anymore
I mean they're still wasting your time (and LP/MMR if its ranked) so they're winning no matter how you look at it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=cYpT65Hn,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T16:42:59.306+0000) > > "if the point is"? You tell me, youre the one who made the vid, you should know what was supposed to be the message of the vid xD I did, in my first response... > Because what you said in the vid does not reflect on the vid itself. > I, as a viewer, am not sure what you wanted to say in the vid....1st you say you dont care bout performance while showing off your performance on Katarina at the same time. I'm geniunely confused. I don't care about climbing in ranked because it is not an accurate representation of individual skill and effort. > Either you just contradicted yourself, or youre "message" in the vid was something completely else, but in that case you failed to deliver it because it's unclear. That was the thought process of me, as a viewer of your video. Alright. > No I'm just criticising your video. Liked it or not, thats what happens when you post your work, be it video or an artwork, on social platforms such as this forum, people will comment on it and criticise if there is something worth criticising. > And btw i never said your vid is stupid idk where you got that from. Fair enough. > If you will claim that people are being "bothered" by your vids whenever they give negative criticism on your work, dont even post it. "Bothered" in this context just means "emotionally effected by," you cared enough to make your initial post and continue this conversation so... yeah...
> [{quoted}](name=caffeine abuser,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=cYpT65Hn,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T18:06:22.871+0000) > > I don't care about climbing in ranked because it is not an accurate representation of individual skill and effort. Thats it. Thats the message thats clear as a day. Just saying this in your vid would be more than enough. Everything else just creates confusion. And ye, I fully agree with you on that one. > "Bothered" in this context just means "emotionally effected by," you cared enough to make your initial post and continue this conversation so... yeah... I'm just discussing, that doesnt mean I'm emotionally affected :D
: Guess I missed what happened. So what happened? All I've gathered from these comments (which all sound oddly the similar) is that he called people "bitches" and "r%%%%%". It is unclear if he typed it in game or simply said it on stream.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7snpLWrR,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-09-14T16:39:16.852+0000) > > Guess I missed what happened. So what happened? All I've gathered from these comments (which all sound oddly the similar) is that he called people "bitches" and "r%%%%%". It is unclear if he typed it in game or simply said it on stream. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/xAwEGhVa-tf-blade-and-the-problem-with-riot Watch 1st part with TFBlade. Keep in mind this was high chall game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=cYpT65Hn,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T13:10:23.314+0000) > > Thats...not something to brag about but okay. > > Im not talking about that one clip, im talking about the vids as a whole. It invalidates the whole point youre trying to make. You're very confrontational for some reason, I'm not bragging, just pointing out something you didn't consider. Also, if the point is "I perform well and am still stuck in this elo, so **worrying** about it is pointless..." how does showing clips where I do well invalidate that point? If anything it should reinforce the point... I can still be like "oh wow that was a cool play" without having to worry about it. I don't get why you're so set on this idea that what I'm doing is "wrong" or "stupid" or something. Does it make you feel better about yourself or what? I like making videos, it's fun, does that bother you?
> [{quoted}](name=caffeine abuser,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=cYpT65Hn,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T14:31:35.825+0000) > > Also, if the point is "I perform well and am still stuck in this elo, so **worrying** about it is pointless..." "if the point is"? You tell me, youre the one who made the vid, you should know what was supposed to be the message of the vid xD > how does showing clips where I do well invalidate that point? If anything it should reinforce the point... I can still be like "oh wow that was a cool play" without having to worry about it. Because what you said in the vid does not reflect on the vid itself. I, as a viewer, am not sure what you wanted to say in the vid....1st you say you dont care bout performance while showing off your performance on Katarina at the same time. I'm geniunely confused. Either you just contradicted yourself, or youre "message" in the vid was something completely else, but in that case you failed to deliver it because it's unclear. That was the thought process of me, as a viewer of your video. > I don't get why you're so set on this idea that what I'm doing is "wrong" or "stupid" or something. Does it make you feel better about yourself or what? No I'm just criticising your video. Liked it or not, thats what happens when you post your work, be it video or an artwork, on social platforms such as this forum, people will comment on it and criticise if there is something worth criticising. And btw i never said your vid is stupid idk where you got that from. > I like making videos, it's fun, does that bother you? If you will claim that people are being "bothered" by your vids whenever they give negative criticism on your work, dont even post it.
: Uhhhhhhhhhhhh... Please tell me you forgot that /s intentionally.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lEfVVF2r,comment-id=0000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T13:57:01.045+0000) > > Uhhhhhhhhhhhh... > > Please tell me you forgot that /s intentionally. Nah i didnt.
Juice (EUNE)
: The guy's lying. I had lost chapter + doran ring. https://imgur.com/KYBi51Z
> [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lEfVVF2r,comment-id=00000001000100000001,timestamp=2019-09-14T13:48:53.278+0000) > > The guy's lying. I had lost chapter + doran ring. > > https://imgur.com/KYBi51Z Then idk...im still standing by my point that sylas has simply too strong kit.
: Blame Cho's R doing a straight 20-25% of his HP.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lEfVVF2r,comment-id=00000001000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T13:44:55.765+0000) > > Blame Cho's R doing a straight 20-25% of his HP. Yea, its denitelly not sylas's bonkers ult xD
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lEfVVF2r,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-09-14T13:23:55.950+0000) > > OP didnt miss any of his skills aswell. And yet he was bursted down from full hp. > This is more a case of sylas having a stronger kit than cho. What's not shown is that the Sylas had already backed and bought a Hextech Revolver over the Cho. (I looked at the timeline for the match). Chogath still only had a Dorans Ring. Edit: I stand corrected about Chogath only having a Doran Ring. They had lost chapter as well. But as far as items go Lost Chapter has more of its worth towards sustain while Hextech Rovolver is purely for bursting. Which is what Sylas did.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lEfVVF2r,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2019-09-14T13:29:41.883+0000) > > What's not shown is that the Sylas had already backed and bought a Hextech Revolver over the Cho. (I looked at the timeline for the match). Chogath still only had a Dorans Ring. Ohh then ye, it makes sense that he outdamaged OP. But still, that much dmg so early in the game....too much for my taste ngl.
Juice (EUNE)
: How does Riot Games think that this damage is okay?
Well OP its safe to say he farted in your mouth :P EDIT: Sylas's name means "I fart in your mouth" when translated, in case some1 doesnt get the joke xD
: It was 80% HP from the abilities you had just used. He knew full well they were on cooldown. Is it somehow illegal to engage on someone after they blew their entire kit? He also missed practically nothing except a couple procs from his passive. You had won until he used your bullshit scaling bullshit damage point and click ult against you. You got out-cheesed and out-skilled.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lEfVVF2r,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-14T12:43:08.672+0000) > > It was 80% HP from the abilities you had just used. He knew full well they were on cooldown. Is it somehow illegal to engage on someone after they blew their entire kit? > > He also missed practically nothing except a couple procs from his passive. > > You had won until he used your bullshit scaling bullshit damage point and click ult against you. > > You got out-cheesed and out-skilled. OP didnt miss any of his skills aswell. And yet he was bursted down from full hp. This is more a case of sylas having a stronger kit than cho.
: One thing you failed to consider is that this is something like the 30th "montage" I've made, and I have a history of misleading titles and going on short text rants, with most of it being "take with a grain of salt" type of content. Edit: I also fail to see how "clips from a low level normal game against a smurf lee sin" and "Shelf full of 1st place trophies" are even remotely similar...
> [{quoted}](name=caffeine abuser,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=cYpT65Hn,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T12:32:43.849+0000) > > One thing you failed to consider is that this is something like the 30th "montage" I've made, and I have a history of misleading titles and going on short text rants, with most of it being "take with a grain of salt" type of content. Thats...not something to brag about but okay. > Edit: I also fail to see how "clips from a low level normal game against a smurf lee sin" and "Shelf full of 1st place trophies" are even remotely similar... Im not talking about that one clip, im talking about the vids as a whole. It invalidates the whole point youre trying to make.
: O o? Should I have pulled clips from a game where I inted? I lose games where I perform the same or better than is shown in the video all the time was kind of the point.
> [{quoted}](name=caffeine abuser,realm=NA,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=cYpT65Hn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-14T01:09:43.660+0000) > > O o? Should I have pulled clips from a game where I inted? I lose games where I perform the same or better than is shown in the video all the time was kind of the point. It would be better if you simply made a post about it. Youre basically contradicting yourself by doing a montage in which youre showing off your good performance while saying it doesnt matter at the same time. If your performance didnt matter to you, you wouldnt make a montage. And even the title of your vid is kind of misleading. The only mention of "the state of raked" is when you say youre either playing with: - new players (only valid complaint imo) - experienced players (its normal idk why you even mention it) - smurfs (just because some1 says they're smurfing doesnt mean they're smurfs) - toxic tryhards ( depends on what you find toxic, and whats wrong with tryharding in a ranked game?) And the rest of the vid is you saying how you dont care about your performance, while the whole vid says otherwise. Imagine if the best boxer/basketball player/football player makes a vid saying how he doesnt care about being the best while recording his shelf full of 1st place trophies. Kinda hypociritical right? > I lose games where I perform the same or better than is shown in the video all the time was kind of the point. And saying this, once again, contradicts your point from the vid. Whats your purpose of pointing out you have consisting, and good, preformance when you said it doesnt matter to you? It looks like it does matter to you after all.
: A Video Essay on the state of ranked / Kat Montage :^)
- says how preformance doesnt matter - makes a montage to show off his performance {{sticker:zombie-brand-mindblown}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Midg3t,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EWuo8TlZ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T22:18:39.107+0000) > > You kinda contradicted yourself when you said "the only teams that frequently pick flashy champions like lee are top tier EU teams" > It still means "LC$ bigplays" is a relevant meme. EU is LEC, not LCS g2 picking mechanical champions doesn't mean those champions are meta, it just means they're so fuckin good that they can get away with it
> [{quoted}](name=ShyImagoghnar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EWuo8TlZ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T22:21:08.541+0000) > > EU is LEC, not LCS > > g2 picking mechanical champions doesn't mean those champions are meta, it just means they're so fuckin good that they can get away with it Oh so LC$ bigplays is a dead meme... L€C meme however.. xD
: Karma hard nerfs???
Idk how much Karma will be affected by this but still wtf...
: > [{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EWuo8TlZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-13T22:14:40.973+0000) > > Where are you trying to go with this? "LC$ bigplays" is a dead meme. zed's dead, baby long live azir and corki
> [{quoted}](name=ShyImagoghnar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EWuo8TlZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-13T22:16:39.783+0000) > > "LC$ bigplays" is a dead meme You kinda contradicted yourself when you said "the only teams that frequently pick flashy champions like lee are top tier EU teams" It still means "LC$ bigplays" is a relevant meme.
disabIed (NA)
: Hey. Hey you. Stop being mad at League for a moment.
(New) Panth support Off-tank Noc top Kennen supp w/ Klepto Xerath supp
Lost R (NA)
: Most of these assholes eventually destroy themselves, but if some shitheel causes you to act like a shitheel in turn, then you deserve to be cast into Hell right alongside them.
> [{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AaoizvjE,comment-id=00000002000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-12T15:31:44.133+0000) > > Most of these assholes eventually destroy themselves, but if some shitheel causes you to act like a shitheel in turn, then you deserve to be cast into Hell right alongside them. Yea, every1 who once were toxic to some1 deserve to go to Hell xD Okay mate, we're not in theatre But hey, at least in warm in there c: I'll make sure to say "hi" to Lucifer and C'thulu. Oh, and I hope I run into Vergilie on my way to the 9th circle of Hell, i wanna see how is my homeboi doing in there :P And im suprised how we got from "riot should try a lil bit harder about punishing trolls" to "send toxic heretics to Hell" lmfao
Özen (NA)
: Smurfs are ruining Ranked
Dont talk shit about smurfs if youre a smurf aswell.
Cãtãlinn (EUNE)
: This s*** is driving me crazy
> 1. Can we get more severe punishments for players that are leaving the lobby? No, thats not needed. > 2. If we got some kind of evidence that someone is intentionaly trolling, can we get them banned? I reported a lot of players for trolling/toxicity and nothing happened. Toxic behaviour is often dealt with pretty quickly. Trolling on the other hand....not so fast unfortunately.
Lost R (NA)
: That's not how that fucking works. If you have zero self-control, that's your own goddamn fault, nobody else's.
> [{quoted}](name=Lost R,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AaoizvjE,comment-id=000000020001,timestamp=2019-09-12T00:20:56.045+0000) > > That's not how that fucking works. If you have zero self-control, that's your own goddamn fault, nobody else's. I never mentioned anything about self-control dafuq you on mate? xD Yea you need self-control but that doesnt mean riot shouldnt try a lil bit harder to crack down on the trolling issue.
rujitra (NA)
: You can believe that all you want, but the bottom line is that self control is needed. You cannot justify everything in life because "i was triggered".
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AaoizvjE,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2019-09-11T23:35:01.479+0000) > > You can believe that all you want, but the bottom line is that self control is needed. I agree, but my point still stands, if Riot tries a lil bit harder to crack down on the trolling issue I believe we will see less verbal toxicity. > You cannot justify everything in life because "i was triggered". I...never said that tho. How did you even concluded that i want to "justify everything in life" because some1 is triggered?
rujitra (NA)
: He was punished for overt racism against the players on the server. It does not matter what others are doing, racism is not okay. Period. These "rank 1 players" are not who Riot gives a fuck about. Riot cares about the millions of "normal" players who play the game and want to see a game free from toxic behavior that ruins their experience. Sure, Riot could be like CSGO and other games and allow people to flame all they want - but look at how successful League is compared to these games (hint: more successful).
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=AaoizvjE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-11T17:15:42.018+0000) > > He was punished for overt racism against the players on the server. It does not matter what others are doing, racism is not okay. Period. Youre right about that. He deserved the punishment. However, lets not pretend like TF flamed them because he felt like it. Players trolled him to the point where he was pissed off and became toxic. Which I dont think it would happen if he wasnt trolled. And thats the issue OP is talking about. it's fine to ban players for flaming, but if you dont ban trolls as fast and efficiently as you would ban a flamer, there will be more players who will become toxic because of situations like the one TF experienced. If riot tried harder to crack down on trolling issue I believe you would see less toxicity. Cuz rn as it is, even if riot bans one flamer, another player will become one due to trolls who are pissing people off so much.
: Why is Sylas so buff looking?
Are you literally questioning the logic of a fantasy world?
YobiRaion (EUNE)
: What's wrong with League and my take on how to fix it
Youre mistaken about requirements for being able to do OW cases. You need to reach Gold Nova rank (2nd lowest rank in csgo), and I think you need to have Prime status (you get it on lvl 21 or you can pay for it), playtime is irrelevant.
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