Oglaf (EUNE)
: Taliyah & Malphite/Skarner.
-*stretches arms to the side*- About thiiiiiis big, no?
Oglaf (EUNE)
: Just switched servers and now I am in a pickle?
{{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
: Climbing in Low ELO is all about consistency.
To win at LoL you have to accept the following ancient truth: You **will** have roughly 40%-45% losses and 40%-45% wins. You **will** have 10%-20% games that are really even and close. It is all about being able to win these 10%-20% of games in order to climb, because it puts you at more wins than losses. That is the one and only secret. Be the _deciding factor_ in these even games. Even the cremé de la cremé of LoL players will have games they can't win. Watch the VODs of the World's players when they SoloQ - they definitely do not win every single game! Or you know, one-trick one of the obviously broken and OP Champions that can 1v9, lol. But if you don't want to be that guy, focus on what I wrote above.
Rebonack (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Oglaf,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Aa02NmcX,comment-id=001000000000,timestamp=2017-01-01T23:38:32.499+0000) > > The most annoying part is that Diana has it, whereas Leona does not. That really irks me, lol. Leona is, what, a year older than Diana? Something like that? I think Darius was the first champion with a recall animation.
> [{quoted}](name=Rebonack,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Aa02NmcX,comment-id=0010000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-02T00:01:59.268+0000) > > Leona is, what, a year older than Diana? Something like that? I think Darius was the first champion with a recall animation. Yeah but I mean _thematically_ they are so close, yet this obvious gap in quality. It irks me.
: "Tear off a limb"? ""Tear out chunks to injure him"? Let me repeat myself. Malphite. Is. The. Size. Of. A. Mountain. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=HalfTangible,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=obiAcWRJ,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-01-01T23:00:43.773+0000) > > "Tear off a limb"? ""Tear out chunks to injure him"? > > Let me repeat myself. > > Malphite. Is. The. Size. Of. A. Mountain. > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Hey lets not sell {{champion:163}} short. She'd probably be able to tear a chunk out of a mountain. Probably.
Rebonack (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Oglaf,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Aa02NmcX,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2017-01-01T21:10:26.727+0000) > > In my opinion, every Champion should at the very least have a Recall animation. > > There is a huge difference in general "feeling of quality" between those that do and those that don't. Totally on board there. I've considered having a recall animation to be the benchmark for what constitutes a 'modern' model/skin for quite a while now.
> [{quoted}](name=Rebonack,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Aa02NmcX,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2017-01-01T23:23:56.102+0000) > > Totally on board there. I've considered having a recall animation to be the benchmark for what constitutes a 'modern' model/skin for quite a while now. The most annoying part is that Diana has it, whereas Leona does not. That really irks me, lol.
xWaters (NA)
: Yay ur back. I haven't seen you post in awhile
> [{quoted}](name=xWaters,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=obiAcWRJ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-01T21:22:00.845+0000) > > Yay ur back. I haven't seen you post in awhile Awww thank you. Been away because holiday season and junk. Y'know like everyone else.
: Lore wise, Malphite is the size of a literal mountain. Taliyah doesn't have the power to manipulate THAT much rock, and her movements seem more... how to put this... Her power comes from the Stoneweaver, and her spells/abilities seem to reflect that. They flow, spike and shift. It's less that she has a ton of raw power and more that she can apply it in a specific manner (her stone wall doesn't just shoot up out of the ground, it flows out like a wave). If that makes sense. Skarner's species isn't fully crystalline, tho. Even if she could control him, I don't see why she would.
> [{quoted}](name=HalfTangible,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=obiAcWRJ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-01-01T21:25:03.911+0000) > > Lore wise, Malphite is the size of a literal mountain. Taliyah doesn't have the power to manipulate THAT much rock, and her movements seem more... how to put this... > > Her power comes from the Stoneweaver, and her spells/abilities seem to reflect that. They flow, spike and shift. It's less that she has a ton of raw power and more that she can apply it in a specific manner (her stone wall doesn't just shoot up out of the ground, it flows out like a wave). If that makes sense. > > Skarner's species isn't fully crystalline, tho. Even if she could control him, I don't see why she would. I mean she could, you know, tear off an limb and beat them up with it I guess? Or just tear chunks out of Malphite to injure him?
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Arakadia (NA)
: I feel like we need to do VU's by themselves again.
In my opinion, every Champion should at the very least have a Recall animation. There is a huge difference in general "feeling of quality" between those that do and those that don't.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Oglaf,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=b8Fjxh9o,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-01-01T21:01:24.612+0000) > > None, because it should be an animated movie and not a crappy live-action adaptation á la Dragonballz. Well, I also would prefer in this way but It requires too much effort, time and money. Even a company like Blizzard decided this way.
> [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=b8Fjxh9o,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-01-01T21:04:39.586+0000) > > Well, I also would prefer in this way but It requires too much effort, time and money. Even a company like Blizzard decided this way. Well if you insist. Da Governator - {{champion:14}} http://soul-sides.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Total-Recall_Arnold-Schwarzenegger_-Total-Recall-2012-299x207.jpg
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Fasmodey (EUW)
: If LoL ever had a movie, who could be the actors and actresses?
None, because it should be an animated movie and not a crappy live-action adaptation á la Dragonballz.
PhRoXz0n (NA)
: I think we want to both preserve the sanctity of laning phase as well as allowing for progression in game state. If bot lane is both low, I think it's completely appropriate to be able to have a 3v2 dive with the minion wave, kill both and escape. Without the minion wave, should be very difficult. I think if bot is both full health, neither outcome should be guaranteed in a 3v2 (or 4v3) dive (there should be outplay potential on both sides), but in a 4v2 dive, I would expect both players to die. Personally, I think 4v2 dives are very telegraphed and you have ample time to leave if jungle isn't there to countergank (or at least ward to prepare and call mid lane to prepare for rotation and get cleanup). I think it's unreasonable to expect a turret to defend you from a 4v2 dive with a minion wave (turret would pretty much have to 3 hit KO you), but if defense in a full health 2v3 or 3v4 is failing, that's something we can look at.
> [{quoted}](name=Fizz Enthusiast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Thjt738p,comment-id=001a,timestamp=2017-01-01T19:42:03.980+0000) > > I think we want to both preserve the sanctity of laning phase as well as allowing for progression in game state. > > If bot lane is both low, I think it's completely appropriate to be able to have a 3v2 dive with the minion wave, kill both and escape. Without the minion wave, should be very difficult. > > I think if bot is both full health, neither outcome should be guaranteed in a 3v2 (or 4v3) dive (there should be outplay potential on both sides), but in a 4v2 dive, I would expect both players to die. > > Personally, I think 4v2 dives are very telegraphed and you have ample time to leave if jungle isn't there to countergank (or at least ward to prepare and call mid lane to prepare for rotation and get cleanup). > > I think it's unreasonable to expect a turret to defend you from a 4v2 dive with a minion wave (turret would pretty much have to 3 hit KO you), but if defense in a full health 2v3 or 3v4 is failing, that's something we can look at. Nobody is really worrying about the lane towers. It is the inhibitor, and especially nexus, towers that are utterly pathetic. They are not balanced in such a way that they scale up adequately to the items players have at the point in the game where they are likely to get attacked. They can just be face-tanked and melted in seconds. Especially the nexus ones; you don't really need minions to tank them for you, you just need the enemy players to be dead. Then it is game over regardless. They are trivial at best. EDIT: Downvote why exactly? Counter my argument, don't be a coward that downvotes and runs.
ZaDahaka11 (EUNE)
: free games are not really free, League brain wash you into buying skins, everyone does it..
Well, at least I got a good fap out of this thread. Not sure if it was worth sitting through the Captain Obvious-like rant though.
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LankPants (OCE)
: >I think your'e onto something. But if we were to load more power into creep management and turret taking for supports, how many people would actually appreciate that? Given how the average person feels about support right now how much do you stand to lose?
> [{quoted}](name=LankPants,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=N2eVbnb5,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-12-31T03:36:49.951+0000) > > Given how the average person feels about support right now how much do you stand to lose? Well, it is true, innit? You can't carry with Braum no matter how hard you try. He doesn't clear waves, nor does he takes towers. He can at most ZZ Rot (one of my favourite Support items for this very reason). There is a reason why midlaners such as Brand and Malzahar are so popular "Support" picks, because in return of playing Support early game they can later just go full midlaner-mode and carry like usual.
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Sayomi (EUW)
: Ahri doodle
Looks like her right boob is wielding a dagger.
: Hes just crazy, and thinks the trolls are still around.
> [{quoted}](name=MaskedHeroman,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ABgiAWvU,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-12-20T19:27:45.418+0000) > > Hes just crazy, and thinks the trolls are still around. Acceptable scenario. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Oglaf,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wEdZ5pMd,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2016-12-20T18:43:28.768+0000) > > The biggest problem in lane is that his "HASAKIII!" poke does not draw Minion aggro if it hits you through a Minion first - allowing him free poke that you can't retaliate against because then you draw Minion aggro and lose the trade by default. Yeah, as we know mages with their long ranged abilities have to deeply worry about minion aggro.
> [{quoted}](name=PermabannedGaren,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wEdZ5pMd,comment-id=000e0000,timestamp=2016-12-20T19:29:55.468+0000) > > Yeah, as we know mages with their long ranged abilities have to deeply worry about minion aggro. If they hit you point blank in the face within a Minion wave, yes. Yes they do. Yasou does not.
: Do you have trouble seeing Brand hitting you with a spell?
> [{quoted}](name=Big Lincoln,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5ihgyntF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-12-21T01:18:45.133+0000) > > Do you have trouble seeing Brand hitting you with a spell? Just reading the title before replying like a boss.
: > [{quoted}](name=Oglaf,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OLhi0FyA,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2016-12-20T15:48:46.238+0000) > > {{champion:201}} > > I uh... I honestly don't know? Braum does well against pretty much any botlane. If anything, what counters me is a terrible ADC partner! > > http://static4.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1551/15516851/2941765-lfs14.png {{champion:25}} makes him pretty sad.
> [{quoted}](name=Could not care,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OLhi0FyA,comment-id=00100004,timestamp=2016-12-20T18:57:38.464+0000) > > {{champion:25}} makes him pretty sad. Yup, but not to the point of _countering _ him, really. In fact his ability to jump in front of his ADC and absorb the root hit for them allows him to make her cry, too! :D
: Thats not always a smart idea and you cant always do that. If your botlane is stronger due to their picks or simply how the lane went then you dont wanna just throw yourself at them, especially not against a hard hitting support. Jumping in at the early levels might not be a good idea either as you will talk minions and as they can kite you. Lastly its not a good idea if you dont know where the jungler is either. Sure, engaging on a squishy is a good idea but it cant always be done in laningphase and is often not a good idea, and due to their kits Zyra and especially Morg counter Braum id say.
> [{quoted}](name=Nikolai12000,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OLhi0FyA,comment-id=0010000000000000,timestamp=2016-12-20T18:42:53.267+0000) > > Thats not always a smart idea and you cant always do that. If your botlane is stronger due to their picks or simply how the lane went then you dont wanna just throw yourself at them, especially not against a hard hitting support. Jumping in at the early levels might not be a good idea either as you will talk minions and as they can kite you. Lastly its not a good idea if you dont know where the jungler is either. Sure, engaging on a squishy is a good idea but it cant always be done in laningphase and is often not a good idea, and due to their kits Zyra and especially Morg counter Braum id say. In my experience, it is _often_ a much better idea than let them dictate how the lane plays out, since if you get the gold/experience advantage from those early kills then you have lessened or even nullified their range advantage. Of course, once again it comes down to how in-synch you are with your ADC. Many-a deaths for me have come by me engaging and the ADC not seizing the opportunity and I die a rather embarrassing death 2 v 1. http://static4.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1551/15516851/2941765-lfs14.png
: I feel like there is no point of interacting with Yasuo in lane...
The biggest problem in lane is that his "HASAKIII!" poke does not draw Minion aggro if it hits you through a Minion first - allowing him free poke that you can't retaliate against because then you draw Minion aggro and lose the trade by default.
: xd or XD or xD ?
I prefer :D because it is more in line with the other old-school smileys.
Hellion50 (EUW)
: I'm a calculus sex god now
Correlation does not mean causation, noob.
: Can you please remove Warlord's?
{{champion:2}} and {{champion:266}} have been doing it literally for years. It is fine.
: Who dose you main hard counter
{{champion:201}} > The less manly Supports. (i.e all of them except Taric)
Are (NA)
: Hard harassing supports? Tanky-engage supports usually have hard times against those. I'm thinking {{champion:143}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:25}}
> [{quoted}](name=Are,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OLhi0FyA,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2016-12-20T16:49:05.772+0000) > > Hard harassing supports? Tanky-engage supports usually have hard times against those. > > I'm thinking {{champion:143}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:25}} Well, if you let them use their range, sure. The best counter-counter to it is to just go balls to the wall aggressive and engage on them instead (like Leona) with Braum. Use your W on a minion close to either one of them to engage (the knowledge of his W working on minions is what tells a good Braum apart from an autofill Braum, lulz).
: Damn I was going to say I main Support and my biggest counter is my own ADC, but you beat me to it.
> [{quoted}](name=Stephenizgod,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OLhi0FyA,comment-id=00100002,timestamp=2016-12-20T17:27:43.015+0000) > > Damn I was going to say I main Support and my biggest counter is my own ADC, but you beat me to it. http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130819170548/degrassi/images/5/5c/2242102-gamer-gifs-i-know-that-feel-bro.gif
: Zilean counters him pretty well by zoning him and his adc. His shield makes it like a huge target for the bomb and you dont wanna w into your adc with one.or else you both get stunned and dmg'd.
> [{quoted}](name=RainbowIcee,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OLhi0FyA,comment-id=00100003,timestamp=2016-12-20T18:16:17.409+0000) > > Zilean counters him pretty well by zoning him and his adc. His shield makes it like a huge target for the bomb and you dont wanna w into your adc with one.or else you both get stunned and dmg'd. Not really. The answer to a ranged Support with Braum is just to hop onto a minion with his W and go aggressive in their faces (much like Leona). But yes, if you just let them use their range to harass you, of course they "counter" you, I guess.
: Knights vow, how does it work???
12% of all damage as long as it is dealt to enemy Champions.
Bombardox (EUW)
: I am the only one who hates facing caitlyn as an adc main ?
Only if they are the clever type who max the traps first.
CLG ear (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Oglaf,realm=EUNE,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=MEbEVTiA,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2016-12-20T16:26:59.615+0000) > > Except her bow is made out of magical ice, so it probably assists in the firing of it. > [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=MEbEVTiA,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-12-20T01:58:25.774+0000) > > you still need a heavy bow and a very torqued bowstring to fire an arrow at the speeds needed to cause significant damage > > https://s28.postimg.org/miem7g7tp/zelda.png
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=MEbEVTiA,comment-id=00110000,timestamp=2016-12-20T16:28:11.775+0000) > > Not if it assists in the firing of arrows, which it most likely does. Really, the magical ice artifacts really make the Freljord Champions a bit wimpier than you'd think. Like Braum's shield/door? Due to being magical it weights next to nothing. I mean, Braum is still ripped as crazy and nobody can take that from him, but the shield/door being magical and lightweight makes it less epic, doesn't it?
: What do you do against nocturne?
Respect his Ultimate and don't play stupid...? Really, that is how you deal with Champions that have global/semi-global Ultimates. It is similar to adapting the risks you take if the enemy has one or more people with Teleport.
CLG ear (NA)
: Ashe must have a lot of upper body strength
Except her bow is made out of magical ice, so it probably assists in the firing of it.
: Ah, though I gotta question why there are up and downvotes instead of something like just upvotes? On another site I use, they have that kind of system to encourage a nicer community.
> [{quoted}](name=Fate Fire,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OLhi0FyA,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2016-12-20T16:04:31.343+0000) > > Ah, though I gotta question why there are up and downvotes instead of something like just upvotes? On another site I use, they have that kind of system to encourage a nicer community. The sooner you start to mentally block out that little number beside your post, the better of a time you will have on these boards.
: Am I the only one disappointed about Taliyah as a champ?
Never having played her, just looking over her kit I instantly see two things about her: 1. Her Passive is gimmicky, thematic garbage. 2. Her Ultimate seems rather lackluster as well; much theme, little effect. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
: More trolls please...
.... wouldn't it be funny if Trundle wasn't made the Troll King by his merit or anything, but rather he is simply the last Troll on Runeterra so the position just defaulted to him? LOL.
: So about those champions that lack magic but can do superhuman feats anyway.
Well, you have to remember that these people are Champions. Creme de la Creme of their factions. Darius isn't an average footman in the Noxian army.
: Well in a techinal sense it is pretty clear as all three of his spells have long enough cooldowns to where if he misses one you can be safe for a good while. But i would like more clarity on both sides. As a Brand player I have no indication save silently counting the stacks.
> [{quoted}](name=TyrekGoldenspear,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5ihgyntF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-12-20T15:51:54.745+0000) > > But i would like more clarity on both sides. As a Brand player I have no indication save silently counting the stacks. That's another good point, one I didn't think about as I don't really play Brand.
Cynicatt (NA)
: if you look at it in sjw logic, it's ok to hit any man for any reason because all men are rapists and they deserve it anyway. it's never ok for a man to hit a woman regardless of the situation because all men are rapists and that's rape. so I hope this answered your question, have a nice day.
> [{quoted}](name=Cynicatt,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OTbe4X2B,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2016-12-20T15:41:09.239+0000) > > if you look at it in sjw logic, it's ok to hit any man for any reason because all men are rapists and they deserve it anyway. > it's never ok for a man to hit a woman regardless of the situation because all men are rapists and that's rape. > > so I hope this answered your question, have a nice day. Wrong. See the thing with SJWs/regressives in general is the concept of "Don't punch the midget". There is this thing called the "progressive stack" upon which straight white men are placed on the top. As such, were one of those to punch anyone they would be punching down (i.e punching the midget) and it would be wrong. On the other hand, if any of the groups lower than them on the progressive stack punches up it is totally justified and righteous. That is also why they believe only white people can be racist, because similarly racism can only be "punched down" on the progressive stack. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: Who counters your main
{{champion:201}} I uh... I honestly don't know? Braum does well against pretty much any botlane. If anything, what counters me is a terrible ADC partner! http://static4.gamespot.com/uploads/original/1551/15516851/2941765-lfs14.png
: Is it bad that I only have flat AD and AP runes?
Well if you have Armour yellows and MR blues you don't really have "just AD/AP runes" now do you? I was expecting you to go balls to the wall with AD/AP Reds, Yellows and Blues. I r disappoint.
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ZaDahaka11 (EUNE)
: How much did the Spartan shields weigh?
The larger ones (10kg+) were probably not used in hand-to-hand combat but rather siege/formation warfare where they would probably be rested upon the ground as the warriors took cover behind them, and only unearthed when the formation slowly inched it's way forwards or backwards. When the situation turned all _**300**_-like, they probably used lighter versions.
: Why is the first thing you think of...when you think of equality...is hitting women?
> [{quoted}](name=Freezer Flare,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=OTbe4X2B,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2016-12-20T01:34:31.178+0000) > > Why is the first thing you think of...when you think of equality...is hitting women? Because it is one of the more hypocritical areas surrounding this whole equality debacle?
: It's not mandatory at all. I haven't build it in a long while and I still have a 8.6 KDA ratio with almost 70% win rate with Zilean support. The fact of the matter is that the active is good, but the stats are kinda useless. HP regen is garbo on your typical healer supports, mana regen is better provided in other items (or rather, Talisman and FFQ) CDR is HARDLY unique, and the health isn't as good as AP on supports like Sona, Karma, and Soraka.
> [{quoted}](name=Water Breathing,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=s3v0FJBX,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2016-12-19T21:43:26.672+0000) > > It's not mandatory at all. I haven't build it in a long while and I still have a 8.6 KDA ratio with almost 70% win rate with Zilean support. > > The fact of the matter is that the active is good, but the stats are kinda useless. HP regen is garbo on your typical healer supports, mana regen is better provided in other items (or rather, Talisman and FFQ) CDR is HARDLY unique, and the health isn't as good as AP on supports like Sona, Karma, and Soraka. The active alone is worth it. It is on Champion Ultimate-levels of powerful.
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