: hey a read your comment and was wondering if you spare me some time to have a conversation with you personally. just reply to this and would greatly appreciate it. I can understand where you are from with deceased relatives to cancer.
Ulanopo (NA)
: >Thank you. I believe I am doing the same An accusation that one must not have read thoroughly is not polite. >A good place to post this would be in: >Player Behavior & Moderation. This was later expanded and clarified by [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000). Please stop trying to go back to prior statements that have since been superseded. No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE account, including recovery. No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE boards access. No one on the NA boards can escalate your requests. No one on the NA boards can provide you with access to EUNE player support.
> [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-20T01:42:55.487+0000) > > An accusation that one must not have read thoroughly is not polite. > > This was later expanded and clarified by [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000). Please stop trying to go back to prior statements that have since been superseded. > > No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE account, including recovery. > No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE boards access. > No one on the NA boards can escalate your requests. > No one on the NA boards can provide you with access to EUNE player support. Ok this suffices but I don't know if I can trust you that is why I am looking into contractual responsibilities. I want an employee, Riot Employee at that, to tell me. Even better the majority shareholder. Peak of responsibility.
: Nothing philosophical about it, it's a technical term, specific to league mechanics. It has an entirely clear definition. I suppose you can claim that they have failed to communicate that fact clearly in game, and I will grant you that many things in LoL are not described precisely enough in game to be entirely clear to someone playing it who hasn't looked up how various mechanics work (this is actually a common issue I see in great variety of games, but in many cases it's ultimately pretty unavoidable to some extent, though often the situation could be better than it is if things were done a bit differently in terms in provided in game descriptions and feedback). The latter part of this gets at the idea of _clarity_, which is part of riot's design values. See, e.g. [this blog post by Riot Nome from 3 years back](http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/lol-design-values-depth-clarity).
> [{quoted}](name=Frightning,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vMh07B2l,comment-id=0005000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-27T02:54:54.734+0000) > > Nothing philosophical about it, it's a technical term, specific to league mechanics. It has an entirely clear definition. I suppose you can claim that they have failed to communicate that fact clearly in game, and I will grant you that many things in LoL are not described precisely enough in game to be entirely clear to someone playing it who hasn't looked up how various mechanics work (this is actually a common issue I see in great variety of games, but in many cases it's ultimately pretty unavoidable to some extent, though often the situation could be better than it is if things were done a bit differently in terms in provided in game descriptions and feedback). The latter part of this gets at the idea of _clarity_, which is part of riot's design values. See, e.g. [this blog post by Riot Nome from 3 years back](http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/features/lol-design-values-depth-clarity). Logic is both part of Mathematics and Philosophy. Induction and Abduction or Deduction Being a Mathematics Bachelor I believed you would have seen them..
: Attack Speed, the % always refers to % of base unless it specifically says 'total' as in Jinx's innate passive. Cooldown reduction works the same way (but there's no 'total' effects for that). They also stack additively instead of multiplicatively as a result. e.g. (base AS+20% bonus+30% bonus=base AS+50% bonus) Specifically, the +35% Attack Speed on {{item:3006}} is taken to be (champion base attack speed)x(35/100) and the resulting Attacks per second is added to the current Attack Speed (subject to 2.5 cap). Cooldown reduction works analogously, would be reduced by the 20% cooldown reduction of {{item:3165}} by (base cooldown)x((100-20)/100) and that amount would be subtracted from the cooldown time for the ability in question. Attack Speed is exceptional among base stats because it is the only one that does not increase with champion level, and instead the gains from leveling up are in the form of bonus stats (e.g. +2.3% _bonus_ AS/level instead of +[some flat number of attacks per second] _base_ attack speed).
> [{quoted}](name=Frightning,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vMh07B2l,comment-id=00050000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-23T20:15:14.660+0000) > > Attack Speed, the % always refers to % of base unless it specifically says 'total' as in Jinx's innate passive. Cooldown reduction works the same way (but there's no 'total' effects for that). > They also stack additively instead of multiplicatively as a result. > > e.g. (base AS+20% bonus+30% bonus=base AS+50% bonus) > > Specifically, the +35% Attack Speed on {{item:3006}} is taken to be (champion base attack speed)x(35/100) and the resulting Attacks per second is added to the current Attack Speed (subject to 2.5 cap). Cooldown reduction works analogously, would be reduced by the 20% cooldown reduction of {{item:3165}} by (base cooldown)x((100-20)/100) and that amount would be subtracted from the cooldown time for the ability in question. > > Attack Speed is exceptional among base stats because it is the only one that does not increase with champion level, and instead the gains from leveling up are in the form of bonus stats (e.g. +2.3% _bonus_ AS/level instead of +[some flat number of attacks per second] _base_ attack speed). I know. The thing is philosophical then If you(Riot) are creating a new rule we need the data to deduce it. We summoners induced how the math works. Language and Programming are not Consistent with each other.
: Which stat are you referring to?
> [{quoted}](name=Frightning,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vMh07B2l,comment-id=000500000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-22T05:20:05.438+0000) > > Which stat are you referring to? Attack Speed. Cooldown Reduction among others
: So is Abstract Algebra (things like Groups, RIngs, and Fields), and Relation theory is actually a very broad subject. It contains the entirety of Function theory, which is much broader than just what you'd see in high school mathematics classes. (for example, Function theory could be construed to include Functional Analysis). And it's not at all different than the issue at hand, unless I am grossly mistaken. The game uses terminology like 'stacks' and '% armor reduction' as technical terms. Hence you should endeavor to learn what their technical definitions, in the context of LoL mechanics, are. A classic example (of an over used) technical term in mathematics, is the word normal. It's meaning is _highly_ dependent on the mathematical context at hand. There is a notion of Normal for Topological spaces in Topology, a notion of Normal for subgroups in Group theory, and a notion of a Normal vector in Vector Space theory (part of Linear Algebra), etc. (The overuse of the word 'normal' as a technical term in mathematics has actually coined a joke: You can know if someone is a mathematician or not by how many definitions they know for the word normal).
> [{quoted}](name=Frightning,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vMh07B2l,comment-id=0005000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-21T20:17:57.924+0000) > > So is Abstract Algebra (things like Groups, RIngs, and Fields), and Relation theory is actually a very broad subject. It contains the entirety of Function theory, which is much broader than just what you'd see in high school mathematics classes. (for example, Function theory could be construed to include Functional Analysis). > > And it's not at all different than the issue at hand, unless I am grossly mistaken. The game uses terminology like 'stacks' and '% armor reduction' as technical terms. Hence you should endeavor to learn what their technical definitions, in the context of LoL mechanics, are. A classic example (of an over used) technical term in mathematics, is the word normal. It's meaning is _highly_ dependent on the mathematical context at hand. There is a notion of Normal for Topological spaces in Topology, a notion of Normal for subgroups in Group theory, and a notion of a Normal vector in Vector Space theory (part of Linear Algebra), etc. (The overuse of the word 'normal' as a technical term in mathematics has actually coined a joke: You can know if someone is a mathematician or not by how many definitions they know for the word normal). It says 25% of Stat when the computer instead calculates it based on Base Stats
RallerenP (EUW)
: Mod Curator
> [{quoted}](name=RallerenP,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-04-20T17:02:17.589+0000) > > Mod Curator > [{quoted}](name=RallerenP,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-04-20T17:02:17.589+0000) > > Mod Curator > [{quoted}](name=elduris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=x4Vhs5KG,comment-id=0002000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T18:24:09.167+0000) > > Rioters are Riot Games employees. Moderators are not. > [{quoted}](name=elduris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=x4Vhs5KG,comment-id=00020000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T18:10:25.541+0000) > > My apologies, I forgot to include that green names are moderators, who do have moderation powers. Mod Curator is not a Rioter, however. He does not matter he has no liabilities I know of.
Ulanopo (NA)
: >Thank you. I believe I am doing the same An accusation that one must not have read thoroughly is not polite. >A good place to post this would be in: >Player Behavior & Moderation. This was later expanded and clarified by [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000). Please stop trying to go back to prior statements that have since been superseded. No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE account, including recovery. No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE boards access. No one on the NA boards can escalate your requests. No one on the NA boards can provide you with access to EUNE player support.
> [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-20T01:42:55.487+0000) > > An accusation that one must not have read thoroughly is not polite. > > This was later expanded and clarified by [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000). Please stop trying to go back to prior statements that have since been superseded. > > No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE account, including recovery. > No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE boards access. > No one on the NA boards can escalate your requests. > No one on the NA boards can provide you with access to EUNE player support. Ok this suffices but I don't know if I can trust you that is why I am looking into contractual responsibilities. I want an employee, Riot Employee at that, to tell me. Even better the majority shareholder. Peak of responsibility.
: It's entirely reasonable to have a specific set of mechanics and corresponding meanings, and expect the player to learn how the stats actually work. Most games do that in one form or another, as long as they are consistent in their usage of their chosen jargon, then there is no ambiguity. This is actually typical of advanced mathematics too, much of the specialized jargon used in more advanced mathematics subjects is not standardized, at least not fully, and so, as a result, the jargon must be explicitly defined before it is used. For example, in dealing with Relations, there is a notion equivalent to the surjective property a Function may have. That property goes by several different names depending on context and author, including, for example, 'right-total' and 'onto'.
> [{quoted}](name=Frightning,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vMh07B2l,comment-id=00050000000100000000,timestamp=2017-04-21T09:07:12.757+0000) > > That property goes by several different names depending on context and author, including, for example, 'right-total' and 'onto'. This is completely different from the issue in hands. This is true but functions are High-School level math. I would say that complex-analysis or topology, game theory and logic are advanced topics. Not Algebra.
RallerenP (EUW)
: Mod Curator
> [{quoted}](name=RallerenP,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-04-20T17:02:17.589+0000) > > Mod Curator > [{quoted}](name=elduris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=x4Vhs5KG,comment-id=0002000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T18:24:09.167+0000) > > Rioters are Riot Games employees. Moderators are not. > [{quoted}](name=elduris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=x4Vhs5KG,comment-id=00020000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T18:10:25.541+0000) > > My apologies, I forgot to include that green names are moderators, who do have moderation powers. Mod Curator is not a Rioter, however. He does not matter he has no liabilities I know of.
: No, I am not, I have a bachelor's degree in mathematics, and want to become a research mathematician. The question that matters here in league is: what mathematical model fits how the various stats and game systems are intended to interact...which I've already given some illustrative examples of in my previous reply.
What you tell the summoner you are doing must reflect what instructions you have given the Programme the Program is not Intelligent it is Obedient. It will strictly do what it is told to. If you tell the programme to calculate the ration based on the Base Stat. You must for the sake of Logic Deduction and Responsibility write down Base Stat. When you write instead just Stat you are Wrong(Riot) not Mathematics not the Programme nor the Language.
Ulanopo (NA)
: >Thank you. I believe I am doing the same An accusation that one must not have read thoroughly is not polite. >A good place to post this would be in: >Player Behavior & Moderation. This was later expanded and clarified by [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000). Please stop trying to go back to prior statements that have since been superseded. No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE account, including recovery. No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE boards access. No one on the NA boards can escalate your requests. No one on the NA boards can provide you with access to EUNE player support.
> [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-20T01:42:55.487+0000) > > An accusation that one must not have read thoroughly is not polite. > > This was later expanded and clarified by [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000). Please stop trying to go back to prior statements that have since been superseded. > > No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE account, including recovery. > No one on the NA boards can help you with your EUNE boards access. > No one on the NA boards can escalate your requests. > No one on the NA boards can provide you with access to EUNE player support. Ok this suffices but I don't know if I can trust you that is why I am looking into contractual responsibilities. I want an employee, Riot Employee at that, to tell me. Even better the majority shareholder. Peak of responsibility.
RallerenP (EUW)
: I don't understand. They did flat out tell you to stop posting about your issue as no one can help you. An employee flat out told you they werent able to help you.
Which employee?
Ulanopo (NA)
: >Im doubting you read it thorughly. That was unnecessary. I have gone out of my way to be polite and patient with you. There's no need to be rude. >I can use neither the Support Site nor the Acount Recovery Form. Neither of those can be addressed through the NA boards. This has been explained to you on multiple occasions. Further, the reasons for this have no relation to the Player Behavior and Moderation board. >if that is the case I would like this to escalate iteratively untill it reaches a mutual superior. There is no method by which this can be escalated through the NA boards.
> [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-20T00:52:22.884+0000) > > That was unnecessary. I have gone out of my way to be polite and patient with you. There's no need to be rude. Thank you. I believe I am doing the same > [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-20T00:52:22.884+0000) > > Neither of those can be addressed through the NA boards. This has been explained to you on multiple occasions. Further, the reasons for this have no relation to the Player Behavior and Moderation board. > > There is no method by which this can be escalated through the NA boards. Hey Picanha96, First off, this is NOT a warning or punishment to your Boards account. Your discussion has been removed due to being posted in the wrong sub-section. We know you're passionate and we want to make sure that you have these conversations in the correct avenues! Here's the link to your deleted discussion: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support/g4QF0nOJ-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam A good place to post this would be in: Player Behavior & Moderation. 1 Notification from March reads exactly into this it is Copy-Paste Need a Screenshot?
AraMoOse (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Picanha96,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-19T23:37:48.340+0000) > What I want to know is their contractual responsibilities. Why?
Because Porocles a Rioter was helping me and He suddenly stopped. Leaving me with a Prompt to use the Account Recovery Form and suppur@riotgames.com. None of which payed of. The Mod Curator takes over and he says that they can help no further.
Ulanopo (NA)
: A callout thread is one in which a name or names are included in the title as a means of bringing special attention to that person or persons. This thread is an example, as you included my summoner name. >Please confirm if I inferred correctly by saying that No one on the Boards can help. Any account problems you may experience will need to be addressed by the support for your native region (EUNE). Your situation with regard to the NA boards has been addressed in [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000). No further assistance can be provided by NA moderators or boards volunteers.
Im doubting you read it thorughly. > [{quoted}](name=Picanha96,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T23:45:48.430+0000) > > Two necessary conditions > 1. No, none at all, Employee in the NA Board works for EUNE support site. > 2. No Employee in the EUNE support site has any contractual responsibility to read the NA boards. > > if that is the case I would like this to escalate iteratively untill it reaches a mutual superior. At the highest level the Owners, the Principals, the Shareholders. Must be the Same. > > As a side note who manages support@riotgames.com? > > I have emailed my issue twice. If any of the two conditions or worse both of them are not met then we achieved nothing. Are these conditions met? I can use neither the Support Site nor the Acount Recovery Form. if that is the case I would like this to escalate iteratively untill it reaches a mutual superior. At the highest level the Owners, the Principals, the Shareholders. Must be the Same. As a side note who manages support@riotgames.com? I have emailed my issue twice.
Ulanopo (NA)
: >What I want to know is their contractual responsibilities. Please be advised, no one on the NA boards is authorized to provide that information, regardless of their ability to do so. This request is fully outside the scope of PB&M.
PB&M? What does this acronym stand for? Also I think we should see individually the votes. Why is there secret voting specifically on the internet? I sincerely do not understand it. The first principle of Liberalism since Locke was Responsibility.
Ulanopo (NA)
: >You need to have both an holistic insight and an individual treatment of each issue. No one on the NA boards can help you, including me. I am not privy to the terms of the contract that provides board services for Riot and, even if I were, that information would be irrelevant. Your situation has already been explained to you in [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000). Please do not create callout threads. Thank you.
> [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T23:26:28.934+0000) > > No one on the NA boards can help you, including me. I am not privy to the terms of the contract that provides board services for Riot and, even if I were, that information would be irrelevant. Your situation has already been explained to you in [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000). > > Please do not create callout threads. Thank you. I do not know what callout threads are. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/call-out?q=callout I must be really dumb but explain as I am not a native speaker of English. I might be more familiar with some expression because of a dictionary while another term sounds Greek to me. Please confirm if I inferred correctly by saying that No one on the Boards can help. The Rioters in the Support site vary acording with the Region. Two necessary conditions 1. No, none at all, Employee in the NA Board works for EUNE support site. 2. No Employee in the EUNE support site has any contractual responsibility to read the NA boards. if that is the case I would like this to escalate iteratively untill it reaches a mutual superior. At the highest level the Owners, the Principals, the Shareholders. Must be the Same. As a side note who manages support@riotgames.com? I have emailed my issue twice.
AraMoOse (NA)
: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/vFhsrEzw-boards-moderation-is-leveling-up Can't you just read? Why do you need to have someone type something out just for you, special snowflake? Also why did you need to single out a moderator by naming him/her in your title, given that your post doesn't seem to concern him/her?
> [{quoted}](name=AraMoOse,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-04-19T23:03:33.926+0000) > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/vFhsrEzw-boards-moderation-is-leveling-up > > > Can't you just read? Why do you need to have someone type something out just for you, special snowflake? Also why did you need to single out a moderator by naming him/her in your title, given that your post doesn't seem to concern him/her? Dostoyevsky's The Idiot. The only place for a correct person may be the sanatorium. There he addresses administrative issues of moderating. Only the changes on that matter. Not their contractual responsibilites. Riot subcontracts a second firm. While that firm hires employees. So there is indirect liability. The Employee answers to the Second firm and may face disciplinary sanctions. Labour Law The Second firm answers to Riot and may face formal sanctions in the form of a penalty as a clause on the contract breached. Commercial Law or Civil Law Each being part of the Private Law. What I want to know is their contractual responsibilities.
: Riot, move our posts into the subsection you want them to be in. No excuses. Hire a person. Buy new software. Just do it already.
Riot would not want some Posts at all in any subsection. They manipulate attention so they do make a sufficient outcome as in income!
: Again, its an opinion showing system. It has no impact on you what so ever
: Boards Moderation is Leveling Up!
> [{quoted}](name=Mod Curator,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=vFhsrEzw,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-04-06T03:03:26.973+0000) > > ................~~Some of the messaging will still be pretty~~ **STRAIGHTFORWARD, BUT** ~~look for a bit more of an~~ **EXPLANATION** ~~about why~~ >~~we're >removing this in relevance to your specific post. ~~ There maybe I fucked up with context if so pull my ear but. Semper Necessitas Probandi Incumbit Ei qui Agit. Straightforward does not in any circumstance mean without explaining.
Ulanopo (NA)
: No. I cannot. You are directed to [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000), which explains your situation. No one on the NA boards is able to assist you.
> [{quoted}](name=Ulanopo,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=iKOm8Ee6,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T23:04:45.703+0000) > > No. I cannot. > > You are directed to [this post](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/x6PGq0fH-the-stupid-shirkers-who-do-not-even-read-and-accuse-me-of-spam?comment=0000), which explains your situation. > > No one on the NA boards is able to assist you. You get everything mixed up. Moderators contactual responsibilities are one issue the first one The Second one... It matters not in THIS discussion,~~ me using the Support site~~ You need to have both an holistic insight and an individual treatment of each issue.
Ulanopo (NA)
: >Mod Curator is a moderator; the green name just isn't showing. NA Moderators are employees of a company that contracts with Riot to provide board services.
Can you please help me further with their responsibilities?
Ulanopo (NA)
: http://i.imgur.com/HOT2ylS.jpg[/img] Can confirm: NA moderators are neither volunteers nor Riot employees.
It does not help me at all. The issue is not their status but whether that status is employees.
: That's true. Moderators for the NA boards are contracted from an outside company. Did you have a question about that?
I'd rather use the terms issue or problem. Have you thoroughly read https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/jPBZcV17-i-feel-i-am-being-abused-i-am-afraid if not so please read so. My problem there is Contracts; or rather their lack, liabilities and responsibilities. I asked for an employee: If they are "unable" to assist me further I expect to at least hear that from an employee and not a volunteer who has no liabilities. And as a reply I got: Mod Curator is a moderator; the green name just isn't showing. Request and Reply are incompatible.
Rioter Comments
: You have made multiple posts about this. Just stop before you get banned from NA too. No one is going to drop privacy policies to let you fulfill your revenge on players. The NA team cannot help you on your EUNE account.
> [{quoted}](name=YerroFever,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4WKTHEjc,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T19:25:40.867+0000) > > You have made multiple posts about this. Just stop before you get banned from NA too. > > No one is going to drop privacy policies to let you fulfill your revenge on players. > > The NA team cannot help you on your EUNE account. It has nothing to do with policy. The issue is only me using the support site just that. Forget al the other issues I have forget all my philosophy. Please keep each discussion separate.
: He was permabanned from both the EUNE boards and the EUNE support site. There is absolutely nothing the NA boards can do as they are completely separate entities. The NA team has no power in EUNE and EUNE has no power in NA but he doesn't really care. He's gotten replies from so many people on the forums telling him that there is nothing the NA team can do to help him because his account is EUNE but he refuses to believe it and is continuing to spam the boards with requests that the NA team fix his situation with EUNE. EDIT: At the rate he posts these things, I'm surprised he hasn't been banned from the NA boards. It's the same thing over and over again. Also, based on his other threads, he's requested Riot eliminate the privacy of players when they harass him in games and has requested that on the forums.
Please address me and only me or you are creating more confusion. The problem is the Support Site. Please confirm if I inferred correctly. The Rioters in the Support site vary acording with the Region. Two necessary conditions 1. No, none at all, Employee in the NA Board works for EUNE support site. 2. No Employee in the EUNE support site has any contractual responsibility to read the NA boards. if that is the case I would like this to escalate iteratively untill it reaches a mutual superior. At the highest level the Owners, the Principals, the Shareholders. Must be the Same. As a side note who manages support@riotgames.com? I have email my issue twice.
: I believe the EU boards team is separate from the NA boards team and from the Riot staff in the United States. As a result, I suspect only the EU moderation team is suited to help you. Consider making a new account and posting on the EU boards for assistance, as Mod Curator (an NA Board Mod) was VERY clear when he said: >As your account is banned from the EU Boards, the NA Moderation team is unable to assist you with that issue either. ------------------ Unless that isn't the issue (I'm puzzled why your screenshot is from Account Recovery if the issue is a banned account, or how you're posting on it if it IS a banned account issue), in which case you haven't been that specific. What, EXACTLY, is the current problem?
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4WKTHEjc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-19T18:41:06.863+0000) > > I believe the EU boards Okay Okay the problem is with the Support Site itself. Please you have to trust a single particular specific individual. I am the Patient please trust noone less on my Issue. Or at least ask my confirmation for every bit of information. Sorry to nag you just keep going untill you feel sleepy. I got banned from the EUNE boards, but this matter is tangential. The only sequitur is me not being able to use it for any issue that prevails. I ALSO got "banned" ,if I could be banned in any way and THIS is the Issue of the Discussion, from the Support.
: Should this skip a few tiers of punishment?
I have cancer and players occasionally wish me exactly that. And countless times there was this EXACT automated message and many others a similar one. In EUNE Support Site that is. I personally have anger issues and I am pathologicaly obsessed with Right and Wrong. I usually turn up against myself but if there were enough people to turn against Riot's agent and principal Employees and Owners each one individually and all of them alike. I would be more direct but I only get to suffer alone.
elduris (NA)
: Rioters are Riot Games employees. Moderators are not.
> [{quoted}](name=elduris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=x4Vhs5KG,comment-id=0002000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T18:24:09.167+0000) > > Rioters are Riot Games employees. Moderators are not. Please help with me Ulanopo he is giving me headaches with the trouble he is causing me. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/jPBZcV17-i-feel-i-am-being-abused-i-am-afraid?comment=000000000000 I am afraid to even confess it on the boards because people are sceptic with jokes and scams like people asking for money and do not accept disabled people. I have cancer I have straightforward cancer in the brain. Brainstem to be specific. http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/stem 2nd Grade Pilomyxoid Astrocytoma in the right cerebello-pontine angle. I have anger issues please do not forsake me or frown upon my actions.
: > [{quoted}](name=Picanha96,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eOhddEt5,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T17:58:50.337+0000) > > I asked them then promptly. > > I cannot use the Support Site and I am told I am banned from the Acount Recovery form. Not from the Boards nor from the actual Game. I am banned from the Support Site itself. That's really bizarre. Wish I knew what to do. :/
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eOhddEt5,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T18:00:36.628+0000) > > That's really bizarre. Wish I knew what to do. :/ https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/4WKTHEjc-support-attention-mod-curator-or-porocles-i-can-neither-use-the-account-recovery-nor-the-email Read it and let us then discuss it. If you don't mind please upvote and comment there. Let us take the discussion there to Increase attention.
elduris (NA)
: My apologies, I forgot to include that green names are moderators, who do have moderation powers. Mod Curator is not a Rioter, however.
> [{quoted}](name=elduris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=x4Vhs5KG,comment-id=00020000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T18:10:25.541+0000) > > My apologies, I forgot to include that green names are moderators, who do have moderation powers. Mod Curator is not a Rioter, however. Diferrence?
: I believe this is the log you meant to post for that game: [0:42] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): FUCK [0:45] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): MISCLICK [1:20] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): udyr [1:31] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): get triforce [2:48] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): ??? [3:19] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): mordekaiser is retarded [4:44] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): annie ulted the ghost lmao [5:10] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lmao [6:49] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): we know [7:00] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): im new to mordekaiser [7:05] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): but he's actually hard to play [7:09] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): because you get kited [7:13] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): with udyr you just e [7:13] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lol [7:18] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): go full a [7:20] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): d [7:22] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): one shot bitches [8:47] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): holy %%%%%% can we do something please [8:59] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): i keep dying [9:57] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): kys [10:24] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): k [10:50] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): nig not [10:55] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): you're salty too lmao [11:12] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): talking in all chat [11:20] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): Lol [11:36] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): i love all chat [12:02] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): you are salty and do not understand the phrase so it makes you even saltier [12:49] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): shut the fuck up you fucking tit wiggler [13:19] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lol I highly doubt that because I have friends who are black that play this and they do no be racist in the game ever [13:47] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): So you can earn a chat ban [15:42] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lawl [16:18] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): aaaaand one shot [17:26] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): why did this retarded ult go off on blitz [18:45] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): ANYONE FUCKING HELP MAYBE [20:16] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): ez [20:25] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lol [20:27] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): you are sad [21:18] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): Btw Muted and Reported for racism and hate speech [21:56] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): and one shot me [22:12] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): league of legends is fun [22:39] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): one [22:40] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): shot [22:52] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): reporting annie
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=oxEgL46y,comment-id=0001000000000002,timestamp=2017-04-19T17:08:48.453+0000) > > I believe this is the log you meant to post for that game: > > [0:42] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): FUCK > [0:45] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): MISCLICK > [1:20] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): udyr > [1:31] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): get triforce > [2:48] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): ??? > [3:19] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): mordekaiser is retarded > [4:44] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): annie ulted the ghost lmao > [5:10] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lmao > [6:49] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): we know > [7:00] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): im new to mordekaiser > [7:05] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): but he's actually hard to play > [7:09] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): because you get kited > [7:13] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): with udyr you just e > [7:13] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lol > [7:18] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): go full a > [7:20] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): d > [7:22] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): one shot bitches > [8:47] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): holy %%%%%% can we do something please > [8:59] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): i keep dying > [9:57] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): kys > [10:24] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): k > [10:50] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): nig not > [10:55] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): you're salty too lmao > [11:12] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): talking in all chat > [11:20] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): Lol > [11:36] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): i love all chat > [12:02] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): you are salty and do not understand the phrase so it makes you even saltier > [12:49] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): shut the fuck up you fucking tit wiggler > [13:19] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lol I highly doubt that because I have friends who are black that play this and they do no be racist in the game ever > [13:47] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): So you can earn a chat ban > [15:42] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lawl > [16:18] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): aaaaand one shot > [17:26] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): why did this retarded ult go off on blitz > [18:45] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): ANYONE FUCKING HELP MAYBE > [20:16] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): ez > [20:25] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): lol > [20:27] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): you are sad > [21:18] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): Btw Muted and Reported for racism and hate speech > [21:56] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): and one shot me > [22:12] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): league of legends is fun > [22:39] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): one > [22:40] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): shot > [22:52] [All] Lucario5623 (Mordekaiser): reporting annie You could also help me. Because I cannot even use the Support Site itself. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/4WKTHEjc-support-attention-mod-curator-or-porocles-i-can-neither-use-the-account-recovery-nor-the-email I cannot use the Account Recovery because http://s346.photobucket.com/user/George_Ntoulos/media/Requester_zpsejqkx3oi.jpg.html?filters[user]=146111905&filters[recent]=1&sort=1&o=0 And support@riotgames.com did not reply yet after I emailed them multiple times across January and February.
: > [{quoted}](name=Picanha96,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eOhddEt5,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T17:47:35.057+0000) > > I have already done so in vain. After two years they probably don't have the data any more, sadly. But, if it happens again, keep trying.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eOhddEt5,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T17:52:53.956+0000) > > After two years they probably don't have the data any more, sadly. But, if it happens again, keep trying. I asked them then promptly. I cannot use the Support Site and I am told I am banned from the Acount Recovery form. Not from the Boards nor from the actual Game. I am banned from the Support Site itself.
: > [{quoted}](name=Picanha96,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eOhddEt5,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-04-19T16:57:54.613+0000) > > How did you get the Records? > > I got Chat Restricted twice two years ago and did not receive mine? They're normally e-mailed to you. If they AREN'T, you can open a ticket with Riot Support: sometimes the reform card fails to send, or is rejected by your e-mail service, or gets marked as spam.
> [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eOhddEt5,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2017-04-19T17:00:22.148+0000) > > They're normally e-mailed to you. If they AREN'T, you can open a ticket with Riot Support: sometimes the reform card fails to send, or is rejected by your e-mail service, or gets marked as spam. I have already done so in vain.
: Remember this is a game and there's NOTHING you can hide from Riot, all they have to do is watch your matches and see what you typed in chat. And people can look up your profile and see what you've done, too. If you were not toxic in chat and there's no real reason for that punishment Riot will likely look into your case.
> [{quoted}](name=Myrkrvaldyr,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=q8Wk6vOu,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-18T20:31:16.057+0000) > > Remember this is a game and there's NOTHING you can hide from Riot, all they have to do is watch your matches and see what you typed in chat. And people can look up your profile and see what you've done, too. If you were not toxic in chat and there's no real reason for that punishment Riot will likely look into your case. We have the chat logs of every player?
Picanha96 (EUNE)
: @Support, Attention Mod Curator or Porocles. I can neither use the Account Recovery nor the email!
elduris (NA)
: My apologies, I didn't get that from just "why?" Rioters are red and have the Riot fist on their posts. You can also find them using the red tracker. Wrenchmen, although not too common anymore, are volunteers in the help & support board. No moderation powers, just specially colored name. Arbiters are blue and can be found in player behavior & moderation and miscellaneous. Again, no moderation powers, just special names.
> [{quoted}](name=elduris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=x4Vhs5KG,comment-id=000200000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T17:33:34.238+0000) > > My apologies, I didn't get that from just "why?" > > Rioters are red and have the Riot fist on their posts. You can also find them using the red tracker. > > Wrenchmen, although not too common anymore, are volunteers in the help & support board. No moderation powers, just specially colored name. > > Arbiters are blue and can be found in player behavior & moderation and miscellaneous. Again, no moderation powers, just special names. So https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/player/NA/Mod%20Curator is not an employee as I though?
: The "kys" part, and any other kinds of threats or urging someone to commit violence. Insults about autism etc. might register as more toxic than some other insults, but at least not on the same level as hate speech and kys.
> [{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l5GfYjqE,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2017-04-18T17:55:24.767+0000) > > The "kys" part, and any other kinds of threats or urging someone to commit violence. Insults about autism etc. might register as more toxic than some other insults, but at least not on the same level as hate speech and kys. > [{quoted}](name=Picanha96,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l5GfYjqE,comment-id=000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T17:14:00.137+0000) > > I would like cancer included. I have cancer and feel horrible when people wish anyone, not just me, cancer. > > Is calling a lane Gay worse than calling a lane sick or cancerous? > [{quoted}](name=Picanha96,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l5GfYjqE,comment-id=0000000200000001,timestamp=2017-04-19T17:16:38.785+0000) > > Doing both in one phrase? > > Get Cancer! Have you downvoted me? In any case the People who do so are supplicated to admit it publicly as if trying to convince me!
: > Is calling a lane Gay worse than calling a lane sick or cancerous? I mean, if it's Taric-Ezreal lane then I'd say it's a gay lane :^) EDIT Also, wishing cancer upon someone (as long as it's in-game as I've recenly learnt) is indeed reportable and should skip several levels of punishment, it's one of more extreme expressions of toxicity.
> [{quoted}](name=Nostormo,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l5GfYjqE,comment-id=0000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T17:16:59.353+0000) > > I mean, if it's Taric-Ezreal lane then I'd say it's a gay lane :^) > > EDIT Also, wishing cancer upon someone (as long as it's in-game as I've recenly learnt) is indeed reportable and should skip several levels of punishment, it's one of more extreme expressions of toxicity. Omg a crime is reportable.... One of more.... Why not **THE SINGLE MOST** extreme** VERBAL** one?
elduris (NA)
: Riot is using a different solution for their moderation needs here on NA.
> [{quoted}](name=elduris,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=x4Vhs5KG,comment-id=0002000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T16:56:03.197+0000) > > Riot is using a different solution for their moderation needs here on NA. No I mean who are the only real employees in NA? What are all the colours?
: The "kys" part, and any other kinds of threats or urging someone to commit violence. Insults about autism etc. might register as more toxic than some other insults, but at least not on the same level as hate speech and kys.
> [{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l5GfYjqE,comment-id=000000020000,timestamp=2017-04-18T17:55:24.767+0000) > > The "kys" part, and any other kinds of threats or urging someone to commit violence. Insults about autism etc. might register as more toxic than some other insults, but at least not on the same level as hate speech and kys. Doing both in one phrase? Get Cancer!
: While I agree with your point (but I use it more like argument against existence of hate speech, and this comes from gay), in case you want to treat word autistic like that, here comes words retarded, idiot, imbecile, debil, etc. All of them were medical terms to represent people with certain mental problem (idiot, imbecile, debil to express range of IQ on which the person is, retarded to express people with slower processing). All of them have the same power to offend minority. And since hate-speech facotor is so inclusive, there are whores who didn't choose this life, may be in need of help and thus offending someone by comparing them to such minority is unkind. Here comes bitch, whore, hoe, etc. And while the argument against this may be that one offend more than the other, it's pure bias and opinion. I never got offended by someone saying the f-word despite being gay, in opposite way, while people are used to utilize terms idiot or retard, people who might get offended should count. Either all or none of them. EDIT: And just to add some more reasoning and answer, hate speech for originally intended for those endangered by violence. Despite how much people use terms retarded or autist, there weren't enough genocides of mentally disabled people. But there were attacks or genocides or systematic supressions focused against gays and black people which is probably why those qualified and autist did not.
> [{quoted}](name=Nostormo,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l5GfYjqE,comment-id=00000002000000000000,timestamp=2017-04-18T22:07:40.713+0000) > > While I agree with your point (but I use it more like argument against existence of hate speech, and this comes from gay), in case you want to treat word autistic like that, here comes words retarded, idiot, imbecile, debil, etc. All of them were medical terms to represent people with certain mental problem (idiot, imbecile, debil to express range of IQ on which the person is, retarded to express people with slower processing). All of them have the same power to offend minority. > > And since hate-speech facotor is so inclusive, there are whores who didn't choose this life, may be in need of help and thus offending someone by comparing them to such minority is unkind. Here comes bitch, whore, hoe, etc. > > And while the argument against this may be that one offend more than the other, it's pure bias and opinion. I never got offended by someone saying the f-word despite being gay, in opposite way, while people are used to utilize terms idiot or retard, people who might get offended should count. > > Either all or none of them. > > EDIT: And just to add some more reasoning and answer, hate speech for originally intended for those endangered by violence. Despite how much people use terms retarded or autist, there weren't enough genocides of mentally disabled people. But there were attacks or genocides or systematic supressions focused against gays and black people which is probably why those qualified and autist did not. I would like cancer included. I have cancer and feel horrible when people wish anyone, not just me, cancer. Is calling a lane Gay worse than calling a lane sick or cancerous?
: We don't need an additional level of special-snowflake sensitivity being brought to league. What next? Auto-bans for people building weird builds, or playing off-meta champs? Better yet, why even have a chat? Or you know what, we should just make league an OFFLINE game, so there's no social interaction whatsoever! Show off your skins to them bots, in your 1+4bots vs 5bots matches! Stupid snowflakes.
> [{quoted}](name=Thresh Outta Fux,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l5GfYjqE,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2017-04-18T15:27:35.144+0000) > > We don't need an additional level of special-snowflake sensitivity being brought to league. > > What next? Auto-bans for people building weird builds, or playing off-meta champs? Better yet, why even have a chat? Or you know what, we should just make league an OFFLINE game, so there's no social interaction whatsoever! > > Show off your skins to them bots, in your 1+4bots vs 5bots matches! Stupid snowflakes. There is Positive Interaction and Negative Interaction. Like Economic transanctions. Like the Sun. Rules are not obstacles for people in good faith. They are tools to maximize our Benefit.
: I can see someone saying "kill yourself" in a situation where someone gets horribly caught on the wrong side of the map and should die to a tower to avoid giving over any kills/assists.
> [{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=l5GfYjqE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-04-18T03:26:04.217+0000) > > I can see someone saying "kill yourself" in a situation where someone gets horribly caught on the wrong side of the map and should die to a tower to avoid giving over any kills/assists. Nice joke but it should be said on Skype only. I remember 5 to 6 years ago that once I had Zilean's ultimate on me and I was first time tagging with Ziliean. Mind you it was Skype. In Chat there is no time for this.
: 25 chat restriction LOL
How did you get the Records? I got Chat Restricted twice two years ago and did not receive mine?
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: See, that's what I mean. The words are there. They have meaning. But the way they're aranged... I just remember writing like that in tenth grade. It was a farce. I did it so people wouldn't try and question me. It looks, superficially, like a collegiate quality statement, but lacks context or body. Nothing to stand on, and no substance. Lots of unnecessary big fancy words.
> [{quoted}](name=TheSnacken,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vMh07B2l,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-04-19T16:05:03.363+0000) > > See,...... I cannot "see". I am not blind nor stupid, nonetheless you must show me exactly what I should see before you expect me to see. Point specific quote with just 2 or 3 words. Then we can argue semantics.
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