Hotarµ (NA)
: > Can you provide more information on this? How do you know it's false? Has there been a statement from Riot? Well, the phrases are labeled as "zero-tolerance phrases." [Here's Riot Tantram using the phrase himself. ](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/OeZ3ipZB-got-a-14-day-suspension-by-a-teammate-on-purpose?show=flat&page=2) The name alone suggests you can't ever use them. In addition to that, the Riot support website's FAQ on the [Instant Feedback System](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286) specifically states: >##WHY DID I SKIP RESTRICTIONS? >"We have a zero-tolerance policy for extreme negative behavior as well as extremely offensive language and remarks made in game towards other players. Since it is a severe disregard for the Summoner’s Code this sort of behavior can result in skipping to a Two week or Permanent suspension. Suspensions of this degree based on negative behavior will not likely be reduced or removed." Which again displays Riot's use of the phrase "zero-tolerance" and "extremely offensive language" would encompass things like racism, homophobia, or inciting self-harm. Finally, the only "evidence" some people have (if you can even call it that) is anecdotal. They have a few links to cases where people weren't given proper punishments for the language that was used. This is incorrect and irrelevant for three reasons: _______ 1 - As I understand it (I could be wrong) the IFS doesn't punish for rulebreaking behavior that hasn't been reported. Simply put if you report a player only for standard negative behavior, it won't give them the correct punishment if they were to use hate speech. So rather than receiving a 14-day ban, they receive a 10-game chat restriction instead. Like I said this could be wrong, it just seems to be the case sometimes. _________ 2 - Logically, it doesn't make sense for Riot to allow these phrases and punish them inconsistently. Why do some people get 14-day bans (correct punishment for zero tolerance language) when others only receive 10-game chat restrictions? Errors can occur, punishments can take time to be doled out, and in rare cases a manual review is needed. ________ 3 - As mentioned above, the people supporting ZT language can only provide _anecdotal_ evidence. I've been using the Boards a _lot_ longer than most and I can tell you with certainty that 95%+ of cases where zero-tolerance phrases have been used were dealt with correctly. The 5% of other cases were missed or handled incorrectly due to reasons 1 and 2. But of course, those 5% of cases are enough for some people to form incorrect bases for reasoning.
That thread brings back memories. There's Halcyon(wondered what happened to him.) and Tantram saying "will be held accountable". You're assuming things in point 2 and I treat manual reviews and the IFS as two different things. The only way to prove 3 is by using 2 accounts. And using a ZT once in account 1 and getting your premade to report you,and then using 2 ZT's on account 2 and also getting reporting.
: Why is the inting detection system so inconsistent?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/377598252272582687/516656020961886213/f8sysvC.png
Hotarµ (NA)
: >but can you get banned for saying kys. Yes. Your first offense will _always_ be an immediate 14-day suspension, regardless of account status. If you already had a 14-day suspension, it will be escalated to a permanent suspension. ___________ > [{quoted}](name=R107 Games,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kxHMfgE8,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-26T05:52:28.138+0000) > > If you said it only once then you're fine 100% factually incorrect. Do not listen to this person.
> 100% factually incorrect. Do not listen to this person. Can you provide more information on this? How do you know it's false? Has there been a statement from Riot?
Rioter Comments
Keyru (NA)
: Boards Moderation Discord Verification
: HOW TO REPORT RACIST PLAYER
: Any meta would be better than this ultra high mobility one shot assassin twitch shooter meta.
: Riot Games sued over 'bro culture'
They need an IFS in their office.
: > [{quoted}](name=Busty Demoness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=p1LaAKuH,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-11-12T14:07:51.856+0000) > > Seriously, how hard is it for you to not be toxic in the first place? Its kinda hard to be banned for toxic chat unless you spew hate speech, the system autobans for that I think its reasonable to be pissed that a system based on merit both requires that and a good account state. However what I think people in this thread are failing to realize is that this system is actually BETTER for them. Before, if you got banned for toxicity, you lose ranked rewards for that year. Under this system, you actually can play enough games to get into a good honor state and be viable for those rewards again. It may still be punishing but having an honor lv0 that can slowly increase is actually a path forward when beforehand the door to ranked rewards was just locked shut.
Not true, if you got banned you could still get rewards depending on your punishment level.
: You've probably heard this a thousand times but Shaco isn't fun and i hate it..
: Behavior lessons from McCracken/Negron VS Riot Games [Don't Do This!]
This is a terrible thing. I can't believe a *great* company like Riot would do such terrible things! Someone should investigate what going on at Riot and see if these allegations are true!
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd26E63T,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-03T10:15:04.034+0000) > > You're lvl 215. You do spend a lot of time playing. So what? That doesn't mean anything to this discussion. In fact, that means it's not _"100% only obtainable to whales."_
> [{quoted}](name=Sona Ping,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd26E63T,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-03T12:28:02.701+0000) > > So what? That doesn't mean anything to this discussion. > > In fact, that means it's not _"100% only obtainable to whales."_ It does take a lot to hit level 215.
: Please do something about this Cream P. Eye guy finally
I don't think Riot is planning to do anything about it or improve the IFS.
: Really? I have 2500 tokens. I didn't whale for it at all.
> [{quoted}](name=Frost the King,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bd26E63T,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-03T10:11:43.490+0000) > > Really? I have 2500 tokens. I didn't whale for it at all. You're lvl 215. You do spend a lot of time playing.
: A person with the name "Tantram" on discord. Yeah, no need to question the authenticity of that. /s
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=L9eEswRW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-02T23:40:27.875+0000) > > A person with the name "Tantram" on discord. > > Yeah, no need to question the authenticity of that. > > /s That account doesn't belong to a Rioter?
: By holding players hostage I meant the same thing as trolling in champ select, there is nothing wrong with voting no. But in none of the options after the game I see an option to report champ select trolls and do chat logs of champ select even get recorded for the banning system? But for your suggestion B, definitely no, I do not want to be forced to lose lp and waste time(+ I would be making the troll win) just so I cannot play with a troll, when there can be no trolls in the first place.
: Que Dodging isn't punished hard enough.
I think we should remove autofill.
Kazo Kurosu (EUNE)
: Where were you when Blizzard commited sudoku?
I was expecting a candy crush styled Diablo after I heard "mobile".
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a4H2YrXZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-27T16:38:24.840+0000) > > I'm impressed with anyone who manages to hit Bronze 5. Well, u should be really impressed, because I hit B5 20 times this season!!! Lol Tis my first season and it has been one hell of a ride.
> [{quoted}](name=Smashed Hash,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a4H2YrXZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-27T16:51:19.207+0000) > > Well, u should be really impressed, because I hit B5 20 times this season!!! Lol > > Tis my first season and it has been one hell of a ride. That's amazing.
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=000000000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-27T16:29:01.717+0000) > > Yes, they want me to be arrested for misgendering people I understand why you think that but thats not accurate, im sorry you've been mislead, can I add you on discord or something so I can explain? I feel like this forum simply feeds toxitity and makes us more aggressive than we would otherwise be and the conversation can go a lot quicker, Ill open up this invitation to anyone else who wants it so I can explain how, no, you aren't in danger of being arrested for accidentally misgendering someone... If you are in NA you can also send me a friend invite and ill be happy to explain.
> [{quoted}](name=AugustHeatHaze,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-27T16:38:18.066+0000) > > I understand why you think that but thats not accurate, im sorry you've been mislead, can I add you on discord or something so I can explain? I feel like this forum simply feeds toxitity and makes us more aggressive than we would otherwise be and the conversation can go a lot quicker, Ill open up this invitation to anyone else who wants it so I can explain how, no, you aren't in danger of being arrested for accidentally misgendering someone... > > If you are in NA you can also send me a friend invite and ill be happy to explain. https://discord.gg/4Q3xQT Pretty handy that you deleted the part where you asked for people getting arrested for "offensive online comments".
: I climbed out of Bronze.
I'm impressed with anyone who manages to hit Bronze 5.
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-27T16:09:46.896+0000) > > Stop projecting. I don't like what you are saying, but I don't want you arrested... I don't want you arrested, do... do you actually think I want you arrested? For not liking a word? Do you think thats what the "sjw agenda" is about? Arresting you for not using words? Is this what you think the slippery slope is? Ill keep asking if you keep replying so don't doge this question. I was parodying the things people say when "sjws" criticize videogames for whatever reason, an excess of boobplate, whatever. so! stop censoring riot, its thier artistic vision. Oh is it only censorship when its something you don't like? Is it also censorship to ask for it to be changed if you like it? but when you don't like something and want it changed its fighting against censorship. Way to completely remove agency from riot there bud. uhhhh GAMERS RISE UP!
> [{quoted}](name=AugustHeatHaze,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=00000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-27T16:12:51.807+0000) > > I don't want you arrested, do... do you actually think I want you arrested? For not liking a word? Do you think thats what the "sjw agenda" is about? Arresting you for not using words? Yes, they want me to be arrested for misgendering people or offending someones feelings. People already get arrested for "offensive online posting".
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-10-27T15:45:24.080+0000) > > Because it's wrong. There is absolutely no reason to change it to "marksperson". Marksman is perfectly fine. It's a slippery slope. Are you trying to censor riot? This is very against the values of free speech. Are you going to try to have me arrested for calling all adc's markspersons? Sounds very ess jay doubleyew of you. Stop trying to censor riot, its thier artistic vision!!!! Its also not a slippery slope, just like frindle its not going to cause the downfall of civilization. Its not going to cause anything.
> [{quoted}](name=AugustHeatHaze,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-10-27T15:58:00.407+0000) > > Are you trying to censor riot? This is very against the values of free speech. Are you going to try to have me arrested for calling all adc's markspersons? Sounds very ess jay doubleyew of you. > Stop projecting. I don't like what you are saying, but I don't want you arrested...
: Rant about the Hashinshin ban
The IFS is just bad. Nothing more to it. If Hashinshin got more cs or dealt more dmg he could potentially avoid the IFS.
Namîste (NA)
: Asking people to report others is harassment and is reportable.
> [{quoted}](name=Namîste,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Ux6ze5uj,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-27T15:22:09.072+0000) > > Asking people to report others is harassment and is reportable. This. Why do people always beg for reports? Riot should atleast try and tell people that 1 report has the same power as 9.
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-25T15:43:00.441+0000) > > No idea why they would do such an unnecessary thing. To appeal to SJWs and political correctness. Just like they did with the PAX event.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-10-26T06:43:36.247+0000) > > To appeal to SJWs and political correctness. > > Just like they did with the PAX event. This is correct.
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-10-26T14:30:57.675+0000) > > Well, it doesn't just fit. It's always been a marksman regardless of gender. Why not just say "Ranger"? There is absolutely no need to do what they did. theres no need to make a huge fuss over it either though
> [{quoted}](name=AugustHeatHaze,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2018-10-26T18:19:23.577+0000) > > theres no need to make a huge fuss over it either though Because it's wrong. There is absolutely no reason to change it to "marksperson". Marksman is perfectly fine. It's a slippery slope.
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-25T15:43:00.441+0000) > > No idea why they would do such an unnecessary thing. no idea why you would care and make such a huge fuss over it
> [{quoted}](name=AugustHeatHaze,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-25T16:21:59.486+0000) > > no idea why you would care and make such a huge fuss over it Well, it doesn't just fit. It's always been a marksman regardless of gender. Why not just say "Ranger"? There is absolutely no need to do what they did.
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-25T15:43:00.441+0000) > > No idea why they would do such an unnecessary thing. To appeal to SJWs and political correctness. Just like they did with the PAX event.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BEBB8Eka,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-10-26T06:43:36.247+0000) > > To appeal to SJWs and political correctness. > > Just like they did with the PAX event. Yea, hopefully this doesn't turn into a *very* slippery slope.
: Marksperson?
No idea why they would do such an unnecessary thing.
Vizulix (NA)
: Does this count as griefing/trolling?
Nah, she had a *bad game*.
Guinsou (EUNE)
: Make Declader Champions Unbannable PLEASE
CLG ear (NA)
: animu waifu thread
Pretty good thread.
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MEstEbdB,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-10-17T12:46:43.395+0000) > > I do think this: > > is "proof" that his bait banning does work. Maybe yes, maybe no. According to his own count, he got 213 feedback reports over 138 days between July 1 2017 and Nov 15 2017, or 1.5 feedback reports per day on average. While early on he brags about one player being Plat, and another Diamond the first week, he quickly gives up on mentioning how high profile the accounts are, with only one more being mentioned in the next 3 months. That implies that he's not being matched with high ranked players as often, which begs the question "why?" Well, towards the bottom he took a very loosely cropped screenshot while in Champion Select, and his entire roster is 25 champions (counting free week). There's a very real possibility he created smurf accounts to target people who were making new accounts right after getting permabanned, and with nothing to lose on the account those players would be more likely to flame him for what he did. AKA: He probably inflated his numbers quite a lot by targeting people far more likely to lash out. ------ Honestly, I'd completely forgotten about this clown until you brought up that screenshot again. He said he had a network of people, but it's only ever him and one other person in the Discord. I'm pretty sure Riot did make the IFS feedback reports far less common as a result of his trophy hunting though.
Yes, they do use lvl 30 or lower, accounts to bait ban. They buy them cheap on ebay or level them, because they do get banned.(after playing hundreds of games) He also didn't get matched against the"good" players anymore, because he probally dropped in elo. It's not 1 or two people. There's over 200 of them in the discord.
Drugoth (NA)
: He was a troll, trying to run a network of trolls with the sole intention of baiting people into flaming them so they can report them and get their accounts banned. He was known for his hilariously stupid manifesto and constantly posting pictures of IFS ban notifications as "proof" of his bait-banning successes. Judging from the length of his absence from these boards, I'm going to assume he eventually just gave up his crusade.
I do think this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372610819856531456/380917635119972352/oneoperativecell-baitlist-exportfromdiscord.jpg is "proof" that his bait banning does work.
: I know a lot about them {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
Please elaborate. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Quinzley,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MEstEbdB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-16T16:46:51.013+0000) > > Maybe instead of downvoting someone could give me an answer? don't be lazy. google it up and maybe you'll find their posts and decide for yourself what this person is/was.
> [{quoted}](name=Angry Old Man,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MEstEbdB,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-10-16T18:06:14.744+0000) > > don't be lazy. google it up and maybe you'll find their posts and decide for yourself what this person is/was. Kind of hard to find their posts since most of them got deleted. I only managed to find some articles saying the same things, a reddit page,his manifesto and a discord link. Riot doesn't seem to like him.
: He was a player behavior asshole who supposedly had a league bot farm to game the system. Been a long time since he's posted. I don't remember alot but you can check out his board profile for his posts.
> [{quoted}](name=Friendly Ram,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MEstEbdB,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-16T17:09:36.839+0000) > > He was a player behavior asshole who supposedly had a league bot farm to game the system. Been a long time since he's posted. > > I don't remember alot but you can check out his board profile for his posts. I can't check his profile, because the moderators deleted everything, unless I'm looking at the wrong profile.
Quinzley (EUNE)
: Who is CreampEye?
Maybe instead of downvoting someone could give me an answer?
Rioter Comments
SonicAF (EUW)
: Punishable?
I'm not sure if the chat filter understands what "fornicate" means.
: I personally feel that the "Inting Sion" strategy - and strategies that are derivatives of it - should be punished. "Inting" is in the freakin' name, and having strategies that revolve around relentlessly and mindlessly throwing yourself at turrets with zero regard for whether or not the enemy team is going to kill you is virtually always going to be a recipe for disaster. I'd definitely report anyone I see pulling an "Int-to-Win" strategy, but hopefully they'll start to disappear when the Pre-Season Tower changes come around.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=sMWrsZK2,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-15T01:17:15.248+0000) > > I personally feel that the "Inting Sion" strategy - and strategies that are derivatives of it - should be punished. "Inting" is in the freakin' name, and having strategies that revolve around relentlessly and mindlessly throwing yourself at turrets with zero regard for whether or not the enemy team is going to kill you is virtually always going to be a recipe for disaster. It's Strategically Minded Sion.
: F*g is not on the zero tolerance list, only f*ggot
It is on the trigger word list,unless you use a different letter to beat the chat filter. Typing it twice(without any mistakes or different letters) is a 14 day or permanent ban.
WREvans (OCE)
: Auto-banning system should be better!
The IFS is a *glorified* chat filter.
: > [{quoted}](name=EvilDustMan,realm=NA,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=V8Ar1ctc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-10-11T13:23:52.039+0000) > > There is an attempt to push down the use of the word retarded, it is offensive to mental disabled people. Mental retardation is a scientific term. What, science is offensive now? Next, "mentally disabled" is going to be offensive to mentally disabled people.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6heBIhQc,discussion-id=V8Ar1ctc,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-10-11T13:46:37.217+0000) > > Mental retardation is a scientific term. > > What, science is offensive now? > > Next, "mentally disabled" is going to be offensive to mentally disabled people. Yes, science is hate speech,misogynistic,sexist and racist.
: I don't think its an "issue". We should let people use bad words.
I can mostly agree with this.
: Yea, they'll get away with it for a bit. Then get hit with q massive punishment.
> [{quoted}](name=EvilDustMan,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Yf5ANHh0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-11T18:45:42.323+0000) > > Yea, they'll get away with it for a bit. Then get hit with q massive punishment. From a Manual review. The IFS can't detect it.
Kei143 (NA)
: people don't get away with those for long.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Yf5ANHh0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-11T18:21:59.105+0000) > > people don't get away with those for long. Not true, I've seen people get away with it a lot and the issue still exists.
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Àátrox (NA)
: Banned for "Inting" over 1 bad game where EVERYONE did bad?
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