Rioter Comments
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RatherDeadThanD1,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=001800000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T11:26:40.876+0000) > > this is flash rqw without second r, that u can do now too nothing changed , diana is overfeed in video. Regardless if flash + rqr or flash + rqw Fed or not Isn't R supposed to be activated when you land Q 1st? Because all this sounds like a bug to me because the main counterplay vs a Diana is not get hit by her Q so she can't gap close you to oblivion. I'm sorry, but this change looks more like a bug fix rather than a nerf.
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=0018000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T11:44:50.173+0000) > > Regardless if flash + rqr or flash + rqw > Fed or not > > Isn't R supposed to be activated when you land Q 1st? > Because all this sounds like a bug to me because the main counterplay vs a Diana is not get hit by her Q so she can't gap close you to oblivion. > > I'm sorry, but this change looks more like a bug fix rather than a nerf. no u can cast only r if u want and do 200 dmg. u think its like yasuo r or what so u have to hit q before?? u can use any spel in r( q and w like this guy did in video) like u can see when u go to champs/ diana / spells and there is no q before her r ? why she must hit q first ?
WoOxêr (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=RatherDeadThanD1,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=001b0000,timestamp=2019-01-15T11:28:10.789+0000) > > as I said before, oneshot it video is still possible nothing changed u just showed us how u actually don't even know what riot removed but u trash talk, low elo I guess ? Random no namer please don't start to talk about ELO, because EUNE doesn't exist in competetive scene. EDIT: First of all learn to read, and I do know what they changed.
> [{quoted}](name=WoOxêr,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=001b00000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T11:30:42.387+0000) > > Random no namer please don't start to talk about ELO, because EUNE doesn't exist in competetive scene. > > EDIT: > > First of all learn to read, and I do know what they changed. no u don't, "one shot in 0.00 no longer will be available" .
WoOxêr (EUW)
: Ohhhh Diana crying mains, LUL, one shot in 0.00 no longer will be available, SO SAD "INTENTIONALLY CRYING NOW".
> [{quoted}](name=WoOxêr,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=001b,timestamp=2019-01-15T11:26:28.285+0000) > > Ohhhh Diana crying mains, LUL, one shot in 0.00 no longer will be available, SO SAD "INTENTIONALLY CRYING NOW". as I said before, oneshot it video is still possible nothing changed u just showed us how u actually don't even know what riot removed but u trash talk, low elo I guess ?
King Lego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Relia Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=0018,timestamp=2019-01-15T02:12:03.082+0000) > > https://clips.twitch.tv/TenuousTenuousBadgerSmoocherZ Question: While it's obvious it's a flash + rqr combo (is it? Idk the champ much), isn't she supposed to land her Q 1st before being able to R and burst Draven?!? Because I heard that this was a bug.
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=00180000,timestamp=2019-01-15T11:11:05.877+0000) > > Question: > While it's obvious it's a flash + rqr combo (is it? Idk the champ much), isn't she supposed to land her Q 1st before being able to R and burst Draven?!? > > Because I heard that this was a bug. this is flash rqw without second r, that u can do now too nothing changed , diana is overfeed in video.
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-14T17:57:09.809+0000) > > Diana is a noob champ? sit back until you hit one spell then full combo.... yeah. as much as i like her yeah
> [{quoted}](name=LordGeovanni,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=000000000002,timestamp=2019-01-15T03:34:16.354+0000) > > sit back until you hit one spell then full combo.... yeah. as much as i like her yeah like ahri like lux like , fizz, why when feed wukong oneshot u doing combo that 100% lol population can do is okey but when feed diana oneshot u with combo that 0.001% lol population can do its not okey ?
: https://clips.twitch.tv/TenuousTenuousBadgerSmoocherZ
> [{quoted}](name=Relia Fortune,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RFUdz7VT,comment-id=0018,timestamp=2019-01-15T02:12:03.082+0000) > > https://clips.twitch.tv/TenuousTenuousBadgerSmoocherZ this is combo that u can do now too ??? they did not nerf her dmg ? combo is flash rqw without second r and u can do it now too, when u are overfeed like this diana in video u don't need second r at all.
: Diana extremly nerfed 3 combos removed ! @Riot Zhanos
goodbye video for our girl <3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vqoO-KF-no
Rioter Comments
pkp24 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cocho,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-13T23:07:04.402+0000) > > I dont understand why they&#x27;d remove a mechanic that just effects diana in high elo. > Is she a monster in high elo or something? I dont think so. Are you serious, Diana is incredibly annoying she can mess up and still jump on you. At least this way she moves into high elo and no longer an easy bronze carry champ.
> [{quoted}](name=pkp24,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2019-01-14T14:42:51.644+0000) > > Are you serious, Diana is incredibly annoying she can mess up and still jump on you. At least this way she moves into high elo and no longer an easy bronze carry champ. what are u talking about ? only best diana players on servers can do rqr and the they are in high elo? this will not effect diana in low elo at all... how is removing hardest combos making her "no longer an easy bronze carry champ."? xd
: > [{quoted}](name=Mr Mochí,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=001f,timestamp=2019-01-14T09:50:48.988+0000) > > This is just even more proof that Riot absolutely hates ap and has strong preference for ad champions. But they're about to release an AP Bruiser with a heal/execute, shield, and gapcloser as well as a 120% ap ratio Q...
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=001f0001,timestamp=2019-01-14T10:38:56.226+0000) > > But they&#x27;re about to release an AP Bruiser with a heal/execute, shield, and gapcloser as well as a 120% ap ratio Q... that's balanced.
: Diana extremly nerfed 3 combos removed ! @Riot Zhanos
https://clips.twitch.tv/ExuberantConsiderateBaconYee IWillDominate comment: @Riot Zhanos champ was so broken everyone banned diana in challenger so you couldn't play her at all, now after this change we gonna have diana in challenger, this is what we needed all those years !
: Diana is not an assasin; she's a fighter. So why, in God's name, should she have high burst mobility?
> [{quoted}](name=The Highest Noon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=0015,timestamp=2019-01-14T02:18:23.950+0000) > > Diana is not an assasin; she&#x27;s a fighter. So why, in God&#x27;s name, should she have high burst mobility? oke she is fighter now and she is playable only in lower divisions ? what is point ? removing diana from high elo and that's it.i think after this change we gonna see her in lcs.
: Diana extremly nerfed 3 combos removed ! @Riot Zhanos
rank 1 NA player(tf blade) https://clips.twitch.tv/FuriousEsteemedArugulaKAPOW "I feel like diana is versus broken right now " ye lets nerf her xd
: Diana extremly nerfed 3 combos removed ! @Riot Zhanos
LLStylish comment : https://clips.twitch.tv/AwkwardSmallTortoiseBrainSlug I agree with him it is broken, but riven in hands of best riven players in broken too and what we gonna remove her combos because of it ? u can't just pick diana in ranked and go around oneshoting plp doing rqr and flash rqr combos? u need hours and hours of learning it for flash rqr even moths to learn flash max range and r max range combined. if u flash to soon diana will throw q after flash and stand in place , if u flash to late u wont get r reset so its all about skill and reward for that skill.
MrDrBudd (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=RatherDeadThanD1,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=000c000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-14T01:00:21.295+0000) > > what&#x27;s counter play of kha oneshoting u from nowhere with aa+q? or rengar oneshoting u with r ? there are 2 items(banshee/zonia) and flash/ dash or cc spell that counter rqr only problem is enemys reaction time . You answered your own question though. All of those counter rengar and kha 1 shotting you as well. Diana shouldn't be able to kill someone in less than a second due to a combo that wasn't supposed to exist in the first place.
> [{quoted}](name=MrDrBudd,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=000c0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-14T01:08:36.223+0000) > > You answered your own question though. All of those counter rengar and kha 1 shotting you as well. Diana shouldn&#x27;t be able to kill someone in less than a second due to a combo that wasn&#x27;t supposed to exist in the first place. why are they allowed to oneshot plp and diana isn't ? how is diana playable if she does 70% your hp with full combo? explane me that and why would u pick diana over some other champs in that case ?
MrDrBudd (NA)
: They are giving her R an auto attack reset while removing a combo that is extremely reliant on someones ping. But yes lets complain about removing a combo that should probably be considered a bug in the first place.
> [{quoted}](name=MrDrBudd,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2019-01-14T01:19:19.903+0000) > > They are giving her R an auto attack reset while removing a combo that is extremely reliant on someones ping. But yes lets complain about removing a combo that should probably be considered a bug in the first place. reliant on ping ???? every high elo otp diana says he can do rqr on any ping but somehow u guys still taking this as argument xddd hahah what joke! first of all do u even play her and if u play can u do combo ? if not pls dont make those comments when u don't even understand it . with stacked pasiv + rq u are doing aa instant what is point of auto attack reset? +1 aa dmg(50dmg) omg what a buff ! etc 1420 dmg or 1470 dmg rly big diff
: Diana extremly nerfed 3 combos removed ! @Riot Zhanos
scarra opinion: https://clips.twitch.tv/GleamingHelplessTruffleOpieOP
MrDrBudd (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=RatherDeadThanD1,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2019-01-14T00:26:27.731+0000) > > how u don&#x27;t get I that best players on server won let me use r after q cast so easy? I have to throw q on them then r and hope ahri wont charm me or lux q or vayne e , drvane e...… they just expect r after q and they will do it 95% time. > I m doing rqr on 120 ms on na ? Oh no not counter play{{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
> [{quoted}](name=MrDrBudd,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=000c00000000,timestamp=2019-01-14T00:51:51.587+0000) > > Oh no not counter play{{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} what's counter play of kha oneshoting u from nowhere with aa+q? or rengar oneshoting u with r ? there are 2 items(banshee/zonia) and flash/ dash or cc spell that counter rqr only problem is enemys reaction time .
: > [{quoted}](name=Taliyah Mid,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-13T23:14:58.374+0000) > > The thing is, this will destroy diana and kill her. She will lose 3 combos and she will not be able to kill adc/mage. Like before... Meh. I rarely play her, so I could be wrong, but it looks like they didn't nerf any damage - just now she needs to land the skillshot. Instead of rqr, which practically makes it impossible to miss q, she'll just have to qrr. Exact same damage output, but now she has to actually land her q. Am I missing something?
> [{quoted}](name=BIended Fetus,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-01-14T00:13:03.000+0000) > > Meh. I rarely play her, so I could be wrong, but it looks like they didn&#x27;t nerf any damage - just now she needs to land the skillshot. Instead of rqr, which practically makes it impossible to miss q, she&#x27;ll just have to qrr. Exact same damage output, but now she has to actually land her q. Am I missing something? yes u are, "which practically makes it impossible to miss q"? u can flash away , use zonia or have banshee or dash away or use ahri charm lux q , vayne e and spells like that as soon as u see diana r animation? but why plp don't do it ? because u surprise them! we can go custome 1v1 and ill tell u when I gonna do rqr and u will see how easy is to dash/flash it.
: From watching over and over my understanding is that they're changing it so you can't flash mid r? Please correct me if I'm wrong. {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
> [{quoted}](name=ShadowGlaive213,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-01-14T00:15:21.107+0000) > > From watching over and over my understanding is that they&#x27;re changing it so you can&#x27;t flash mid r? Please correct me if I&#x27;m wrong. > {{sticker:sg-soraka}} they are changing it so I cant kill any skilled player in challenger who has a reaction time and can easy dodge q dashing flashing or using spels like vayne e, lux q, ahri e...
: It's the same combo, first off. Secondly, you're upset that Diana isn't allowed to remain a discount (original) Akali ... They halved the damage on Akali's ult and now the rework is completely different (I hate it, but it's much healthier.) It seems much healthier to remove this and buff her W shield+passive damage in exchange, especially given that most players outside of Korea have the ping to pull this off. Diana is a buggy mess and she needs fixed, this along with a few more later will help her a lot. I will agree though, removing a combo that helps her in high elo only doesn't do anything where she needs it, which is her snowball assassin-esque playstyles in low elo where she's a lot stronger. Feel free to offer suggestions on power she needs to keep her high/low elo divide minimal without abusive combos
> [{quoted}](name=MankeyMadness,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-01-14T00:01:12.414+0000) > > It's the same combo, first off. > > Secondly, you're upset that Diana isn't allowed to remain a discount (original) Akali ... They halved the damage on Akali's ult and now the rework is completely different (I hate it, but it's much healthier.) > It seems much healthier to remove this and buff her W shield+passive damage in exchange, especially given that most players outside of Korea have the ping to pull this off. > Diana is a buggy mess and she needs fixed, this along with a few more later will help her a lot. > > I will agree though, removing a combo that helps her in high elo only doesn't do anything where she needs it, which is her snowball assassin-esque playstyles in low elo where she's a lot stronger. > Feel free to offer suggestions on power she needs to keep her high/low elo divide minimal without abusive combos how u don't get I that best players on server won let me use r after q cast so easy? I have to throw q on them then r and hope ahri wont charm me or lux q or vayne e , drvane e...… they just expect r after q and they will do it 95% time. I m doing rqr on 120 ms on na ?
: If I understand this correctly, it's the removal of a poorly implemented and most likely unintended combo that makes a burst rotation much faster than it should be, which when balanced around forces the character that was originally intended to be a bruiser into a purely assassin role and nothing else. Am I wrong? This is a good change, assuming riot follows it up by balancing her around the absence of that interaction.
> [{quoted}](name=Backup4now,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-13T23:10:59.211+0000) > > If I understand this correctly, it&#x27;s the removal of a poorly implemented and most likely unintended combo that makes a burst rotation much faster than it should be, which when balanced around forces the character that was originally intended to be a bruiser into a purely assassin role and nothing else. Am I wrong? > > This is a good change, assuming riot follows it up by balancing her around the absence of that interaction. diana was playable in high elo games cuz of those hard combos removing it she wont be any more, "which when balanced..." ye she was so broken free lp.
Felvyne (EUW)
: Ready for downvotes, but after watching each clip like 5 times I'm perfectly fine them removing the combo. I can only manage to understand what happens just because you explain the combo, because with all those animation cancel to the player at the other side of the game this just looks as Diana teleported to me and bursted my health in 0,1''. No, that's not fine and it's not fair, not in Diana nor in any champion who isn't absurdly fed (and it doesn't seem she was in that Fizz video, maybe fed, but not that much ahead).
> [{quoted}](name=Felvyne,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FrovfpFZ,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-01-13T23:36:20.661+0000) > > Ready for downvotes, but after watching each clip like 5 times I&#x27;m perfectly fine them removing the combo. I can only manage to understand what happens just because you explain the combo, because with all those animation cancel to the player at the other side of the game this just looks as Diana teleported to me and bursted my health in 0,1&#x27;&#x27;. No, that&#x27;s not fine and it&#x27;s not fair, not in Diana nor in any champion who isn&#x27;t absurdly fed (and it doesn&#x27;t seem she was in that Fizz video, maybe fed, but not that much ahead). so this is not fair even if its rly hard to do! but rengar oneshoting adc with right click or kha aa+q in ulty to kill enemy adc is okey and if they cant do that they wont be playable ?
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: > [{quoted}](name=Dragon Sword,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pe92LtFR,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-13T17:26:30.628+0000) > > you can just get q r at same time and both abilities will apply if enemy doesnt move I know, that is why I do not know why people are complaining alot about the rqr combo
how u guys don't get it ? most popular adcs now: kai sa , Lucian ezreal kai sa has banhse and zonia in build xd Lucian: black cleaver and maw: ezreal maw + 800 shield from his mana items /not counting maw shield. they all can easy dodge qr with dashes or flashes, now tell me how I gonna kils ranks 1-100 cha players on server adc mains playing those champs doing qr when they gonna dodge it 99% times cast time is to long and as soon as he see q animation he will expect and prepare his dash for my r, with rq or flash rqr I can surprise him and kil him that's sadly only way. imagine those best adcs on server do not react or something there is still a support who can react as soon as he see my q spell and use what ever he plays they all have cc or extreme shilds silence etc... so they both must be surprised and not react on my q+r as best players on server ?
: > [{quoted}](name=RatherDeadThanD1,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KFphHmhZ,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-13T17:33:02.569+0000) > > with all respect I disagree with you, I have played near 3-5k diana games, its rly big diff in enemy reaction time when u use q then r and rq ( high elo ofc) ask faker and see what he gonna say, main problem is flash rqr u are not able to do it anymore. > now u have to flash and stand in place use q then r to enemy, before u could flash rqr in 1 combo if I can say like that, u basically move to target from r+f range and that&#x27;s big difference in enemys reaction time !! > ( what your opinion on this ) > I don&#x27;t know if u can find video of it on yt cuz its rare but I think there must be some. > &quot;but when you are in a group fight its better to use different combos&quot; - no one is playing diana at her max potential and that why i play her over and over learning her everyday. > teamfight situation-u can flash rqw(ofc stacked pasiv on junglee camp or minon ) enemy adc then use zonia and u still have r up while your q cld is 3.5 sec so in team fight u can still use q r after zonia if you survive 1 sec > I don&#x27;t know do I have to that streaming so plp can see what diana rly can do in right hands and what are u trying to remove sadly... this target only few players and its unfair at all. I was not thinking of flash when I posted that. I see why you are saying as well. I am only part of the boards, I did hear they were going to compensate for doing that. in my opinion and like all things about league I personally will wait to see what they do and how it feels on live. and judge from there. I know alot of people hate when their main or otp is changed in a way that combos changes. (personally I feel sorry for ryze otps lol)
> [{quoted}](name=DaenrysTargaryen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KFphHmhZ,comment-id=0000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-13T17:47:19.281+0000) > > I was not thinking of flash when I posted that. I see why you are saying as well. I am only part of the boards, I did hear they were going to compensate for doing that. in my opinion and like all things about league I personally will wait to see what they do and how it feels on live. and judge from there. I know alot of people hate when their main or otp is changed in a way that combos changes. (personally I feel sorry for ryze otps lol) guys u must know that u are not targeting only rqr u are removing flash rqr too and its extreme nerf for champion that is not in right mode right now, i expected buff for her not this in my worst nightmare.. @DaenrysTargaryen can u do a favor for me? lcs is playing on diff patch than live servers, can i some how still play on 9.1 alone forever and playing 1, 2 games daily vs boots, ill send u my email if u can do this for me. sadly downloading fortnite right now ..
: > [{quoted}](name=MyCmanInDiana,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KFphHmhZ,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-13T17:05:52.118+0000) > > btw last time I said they should fire that guy now I did not ? what&#x27;s now verbal and offensive in my post ? you are right, this post follows everything, that being said, I disagree with your logic because you can still q and r at the same time and have it reset your r, you do not need to wait till the q hits the enemy. also if you think rqr is the only good combo for diana you are highly mistaken, maybe in a 1v1 it will do alot of damage but when you are in a group fight its better to use different combos
> [{quoted}](name=DaenrysTargaryen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=KFphHmhZ,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-01-13T17:12:32.149+0000) > > you are right, this post follows everything, that being said, I disagree with your logic because you can still q and r at the same time and have it reset your r, you do not need to wait till the q hits the enemy. also if you think rqr is the only good combo for diana you are highly mistaken, maybe in a 1v1 it will do alot of damage but when you are in a group fight its better to use different combos with all respect I disagree with you, I have played near 3-5k diana games, its rly big diff in enemy reaction time when u use q then r and rq ( high elo ofc) ask faker and see what he gonna say, main problem is flash rqr u are not able to do it anymore. now u have to flash and stand in place use q then r to enemy, before u could flash rqr in 1 combo if I can say like that, u basically move to target from r+f range and that's big difference in enemys reaction time !! ( what your opinion on this ) I don't know if u can find video of it on yt cuz its rare but I think there must be some. "but when you are in a group fight its better to use different combos" - no one is playing diana at her max potential and that why i play her over and over learning her everyday. teamfight situation-u can flash rqw(ofc stacked pasiv on junglee camp or minon ) enemy adc then use zonia and u still have r up while your q cld is 3.5 sec so in team fight u can still use q r after zonia if you survive 1 sec I don't know do I have to that streaming so plp can see what diana rly can do in right hands and what are u trying to remove sadly... this target only few players and its unfair at all.

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