MS exceI (EUNE)
: About the Ashe comic
I like the comic series so far. It could be longer tho I understand why the first series is shorter.
Caithresh (EUW)
: You, my dear, should join [this server](http://discord.gg/wxRnKet), if it's not already done. It's a really cool lore server where I ~~force people to~~ talk about Syndra's lore a lot :)!
> [{quoted}](name=Caithresh,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cbKqkOqI,comment-id=00140000,timestamp=2019-01-17T11:25:34.066+0000) > > You, my dear, should join [this server](http://discord.gg/wxRnKet), if it's not already done. It's a really cool lore server where I ~~force people to~~ talk about Syndra's lore a lot :)! If she joins, I hope she likes Shurima
: What champs are special to u?
1.{{champion:13}} Favourite champ, first champ ever played. Love his lore 2. {{champion:101}} First main ever. His lore is also amazing 3. {{champion:268}} again, I love his lore. **_SHURIMA INTESIFIES_**
: I think Riot just used him too start the ' I am my name, i am the weapon i use' line that was used by Ashe and her mother. but yeah a panel or two of Yrael smashing fool would have been nice.
> [{quoted}](name=BronzeDriver,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sAbQJxOo,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-17T00:58:20.344+0000) > > I think Riot just used him too start the > ' I am my name, i am the weapon i use' line that was used by Ashe and her mother. but yeah a panel or two of Yrael smashing fool would have been nice. Well he didn't answer. So probably he just doesn't have an answer rn or doesn't know. Anyways Ryze wasn't going all out on the Navori.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sAbQJxOo,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-16T22:54:40.379+0000) > > {{champion:22}} ; I am the daughter of Grena. I am Ashe. I am the bow. I am.... > **_THE SENATE_** > http://imgur.com/a/lCRYxMX Hell no XDDDDDDD omg yes this is even better *drops dead* btw go to my post last reply
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sAbQJxOo,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-01-16T22:57:03.751+0000) > > Hell no XDDDDDDD omg yes this is even better *drops dead* btw go to my post last reply Holy shit. Now I'm waiting for the reply to see if other high-tier mages that have similar traits to Lissandra can too (ex: Ryze and Vlad. Both are ancient, very knowledgeable, and have full mastery over their respective types of magic)
: there will be more, and more powerful frost priests than Maalcrom. And while he is definitely gone (for now.) Keep in mind he was not very high ranking in the organization. Lissandra is capable of some DBZ level stuff-- destroying whole armies by herself.
> [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7AVXxNMa,comment-id=00050000000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-16T22:38:51.408+0000) > > there will be more, and more powerful frost priests than Maalcrom. > > And while he is definitely gone (for now.) Keep in mind he was not very high ranking in the organization. Lissandra is capable of some DBZ level stuff-- destroying whole armies by herself. Are other high-tier mages capable of doing that too? Ex: Ryze, Vladimir. I mean for Ryze it seems he implies to have killed an entire army of Shuriman warriors when they refused to give up the World Rune here > He told a story of his days in Shurima. He’d gone to investigate a tribe of nomads that had swelled in wealth and land, to the size of a small kingdom, almost overnight. On closer inspection, Ryze found a World Rune in their possession. They resisted, and… But can he do the same level of destruction Lissandra can? (Without World Runes I mean) Also Vladimir since he is a high-tier mage and bloodmagic is kinda a hack against opponents who have blood. For Syndra we already know that the answer is yes.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sAbQJxOo,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-16T22:51:07.053+0000) > > I am the hammers! > *proceeds to get slashed by Maalcrom's Dark Ice magic* > I am the dead! This is a funny one XDDD gj
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=sAbQJxOo,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-01-16T22:52:48.447+0000) > > This is a funny one XDDD gj The Ashe senate one is better imo
Echoing (NA)
: "I am Yrael. I am the hammers."
{{champion:22}} ; I am the daughter of Grena. I am Ashe. I am the bow. I am.... **_THE SENATE_** http://imgur.com/a/lCRYxMX
Echoing (NA)
: "I am Yrael. I am the hammers."
I am the hammers! *proceeds to get slashed by Maalcrom's Dark Ice magic* I am the dead!
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UEXLLHvO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-16T18:21:46.746+0000) > > Ryze. But then again I'm biased this time soooo "Best designed champion" \> has been reworked over 4 times. :thinking:
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UEXLLHvO,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-01-16T21:21:38.496+0000) > > "Best designed champion" > > \> has been reworked over 4 times. > > :thinking: I was talking about his lore and visual design. His gameplay is problematic for balance mainly due to his fucking ult.
Tardic (EUNE)
: Q/A About chempion Update .
Ryze recently just got a massive lore update....
Sukishoo (NA)
: Morgana and Kayle for one are already on their way this year. Many of those others though have had changes over the years and are in a pretty good spot such as Nasus, Karthus, Sivir, Shyvana, Soraka, Trundle, Zilean. Ryze for one, as I see that in there...a lot XD.. they've said they spent too much time on, so don't expect anything for him any time soon. Others are on the bigger update list like Amumu, Cho, Corki, FIddle, ect and will get what they need when their time comes.
> [{quoted}](name=Sukishoo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=XbEYW4eY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-16T19:46:08.427+0000) > > Morgana and Kayle for one are already on their way this year. Many of those others though have had changes over the years and are in a pretty good spot such as Nasus, Karthus, Sivir, Shyvana, Soraka, Trundle, Zilean. > > Ryze for one, as I see that in there...a lot XD.. they've said they spent too much time on, so don't expect anything for him any time soon. > > Others are on the bigger update list like Amumu, Cho, Corki, FIddle, ect and will get what they need when their time comes. To be fair, they only talked about gameplay at Ryze. Still, he recently got a massive lore update. He should be left alone for a while until an event requires his presence.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7AVXxNMa,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-01-16T19:07:16.398+0000) > > If Maalcrom is dead I still want a Draklorn character in-lore that uses Dark Ice magic like him. I want to see more of average Dark Ice magic usage (I want to see more of Lissandra using True Ice/Ice/Dark Ice magic too tho) I would love to see Lissandra use Dark Ice too, I want o see her power using it.. The thing is even if we dont see it, we know that she is the most skilled at it, she has had thousands of years to perfect it and it is Lissandra who teaches her warriors how to use it (or if she doesnt teach the she taught the most skilled and now they teach the rest).. Dark ice is her thing,it comes from the Frostguardand, I would find it amazing if she would use it or show her strength in comics, if not her as you said Id love some more Draklorn using it
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7AVXxNMa,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-16T19:18:50.738+0000) > > I would love to see Lissandra use Dark Ice too, I want o see her power using it.. > The thing is even if we dont see it, we know that she is the most skilled at it, she has had thousands of years to perfect it and it is Lissandra who teaches her warriors how to use it (or if she doesnt teach the she taught the most skilled and now they teach the rest).. > Dark ice is her thing,it comes from the Frostguardand, I would find it amazing if she would use it or show her strength in comics, if not her as you said Id love some more Draklorn using it Next comic will have Sejuani. So possibly the last one will have Lissandra.
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UEXLLHvO,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-16T18:21:46.746+0000) > > Ryze. But then again I'm biased this time soooo {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UEXLLHvO,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-16T18:36:05.061+0000) > > {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} You can't deny his lore is pretty fucking cool tho
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7AVXxNMa,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-01-16T18:07:53.389+0000) > > The Dark Ice magic Maalcrom used slashed Yrael like an extension of his weapon. Btw I don't think Maalcrom is dead. Maybe, after the arrow struck him and was frozen like the rest of his warriors, he breaks out of it with Dark Ice magic (after Ashe is out of there obviosly) , and since he has healing powers, he heals himself. Also I knew he was playing weak in the first fight with Grena. He only used a mist shield there, and now when he was going all out he was slashing people with that Dark Ice mist. > When Ashe crossed the bridge and Grena stood there, I expected a YOU SHALL NOT PASS moment tbh. > Anyways amazing issue, and I really hope my theory regarding Maalcrom is true cause he is so badass I want to see more of it. Also, Sejuani will prob. be in the next comic, so maybe Lissandra will be in the last. You think he is alive? Well Ive checked and in the special edition in the notes it says that Ashe ,,anihhilates maalcrom into a wall of ice, so It probably pierced him and it didnt freeze him (Maybe sejuanis weapon works like that at least in game but not Ashes bow).. If you check the comic again you will see that Maalcrom held his hand in front of the arrow so maybe he barely stopped it from killing him? Maybe if he survived he healed himself but I doubt that he lives... Ye XD you shall not pass moment wouldve been iconic but anyway id like to see more of Maalcrom too! MAJOR THEORY if Maalcrom lived and the last Issue is on the Frostguard maybe we will see him return to the gates of the frostguard wounded?? OMG
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7AVXxNMa,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-01-16T18:29:50.186+0000) > > You think he is alive? Well Ive checked and in the special edition in the notes it says that Ashe ,,anihhilates maalcrom into a wall of ice, so It probably pierced him and it didnt freeze him (Maybe sejuanis weapon works like that at least in game but not Ashes bow).. > If you check the comic again you will see that Maalcrom held his hand in front of the arrow so maybe he barely stopped it from killing him? > Maybe if he survived he healed himself but I doubt that he lives... > > Ye XD you shall not pass moment wouldve been iconic but anyway id like to see more of Maalcrom too! > MAJOR THEORY if Maalcrom lived and the last Issue is on the Frostguard maybe we will see him return to the gates of the frostguard wounded?? OMG If Maalcrom is dead I still want a Draklorn character in-lore that uses Dark Ice magic like him. I want to see more of average Dark Ice magic usage (I want to see more of Lissandra using True Ice/Ice/Dark Ice magic too tho)
: Who do you think is the best designed champion and why ¿
Ryze. But then again I'm biased this time soooo
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Ashe: Warmother Comic Nr. 2 Feedback and Character Discussion; SPOILERS!!
The Dark Ice magic Maalcrom used slashed Yrael like an extension of his weapon. Btw I don't think Maalcrom is dead. Maybe, after the arrow struck him and was frozen like the rest of his warriors, he breaks out of it with Dark Ice magic (after Ashe is out of there obviosly) , and since he has healing powers, he heals himself. Also I knew he was playing weak in the first fight with Grena. He only used a mist shield there, and now when he was going all out he was slashing people with that Dark Ice mist. When Ashe crossed the bridge and Grena stood there, I expected a YOU SHALL NOT PASS moment tbh. Anyways amazing issue, and I really hope my theory regarding Maalcrom is true cause he is so badass I want to see more of it. Also, Sejuani will prob. be in the next comic, so maybe Lissandra will be in the last.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: Ashe: Warmother Comic Nr. 2 Feedback and Character Discussion; SPOILERS!!
Gonna come back here after the Universe release. Haven't read the post yet so pls no spoilers.
: > After Ryze Ryze and Ryze get one, sure! Fixed that for ya.
> [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=gMg9HReg,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-15T22:20:43.582+0000) > > Fixed that for ya. At this point they would keep his lore so I'm ok with that.
: please dont forget about zilean :(
After Morde Voli and Panth get one, sure!
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=00010002000200000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T13:10:35.853+0000) > > Neutral battle wouldn't mean no advantages like True Ice or sand for any of them? Plus how much True Ice can Lissandra carry? Cause if she just levitates it to the battleground, Azir could do the same with sand. > I think it will be the Frost Children who lured the Avarosans into an ambush, with the ~~spanish inquisition that Ashe didn't expect~~ Draklorn then attacking. Basically, they made a deal wjth the Frost Children in exchance for... idk maybe the bow of Avarosa itself? Maybe they know where the location of the bow is? My idea was that they come to battle in a neutral territory (no fighting in shurima or freljord, randomly in piltover random af) I would imagine it would look like this haha : https://imgur.com/1Lok0Aa Idk I imagine she could just put in on that wagon or carry two of the most powerful true ice weapons, if Azir in fact can levitate that much sand then sure he can take it to battle That is also possible that the Draklorn just attack and honestly maybe the picture shows an frost child warrior? We should definitely discuss more tomorrow when the comic appears!
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=000100020002000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T13:56:23.504+0000) > > My idea was that they come to battle in a neutral territory (no fighting in shurima or freljord, randomly in piltover random af) > I would imagine it would look like this haha : https://imgur.com/1Lok0Aa > Idk I imagine she could just put in on that wagon or carry two of the most powerful true ice weapons, if Azir in fact can levitate that much sand then sure he can take it to battle > > That is also possible that the Draklorn just attack and honestly maybe the picture shows an frost child warrior? > We should definitely discuss more tomorrow when the comic appears! Well, Azir did lift thousands, if not a million tons of sand when he raised the capital. His control of the sand is insane. To make this a balanced battle I wouldn't allow him to do that, but neither should Lissandra be able to bring True Ice. Also I can't wait for the comic.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=000100020002000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T11:00:52.398+0000) > > Wait when did Brand try to melt True Ice? And by melting I mean melt Lissandra's normal Ice in the neutral enviorement. True Ice is kinda a hack against fire or heat in general with only one exception, Ornn. I don't think Azir could melt True Ice. Anyways tomorow the next issue of the comic is coming out, and in the cover the Frost Children warrior who is probably an Iceborn wears a Lissandra shaped helmet, with her symbol on it. Thoughts and expectations? Also I think Lissandra will appear in the last 2 issues or only the final one Well Odin talked about Brand trying to melt True Ice not normal Ice but not working without him using a fire elemental to truly try and focus his powers to damage TI here: https://imgur.com/mODGMPs And im going off of the Idea that if Azir and Liss were to fight they could carry weapons into battle into a neutral territory ( Liss could thus carry True Ice but Azir cant carry sand really) Thats why I wouldnt give it to Azir because not even an elemental like Brand can just do it.. Yes next Issue Im very excited its called ,,Draklorn" and they are actually not the Ice children theyre Lissandras army/frost priests/inquisitors.. The comic would make you believe that the Children are attacking them but they have nothing to do with it (Thats my theory based on the next comic Title, Ashe would have to escape the Draklorn).. I have no doubt in my mind that Lissandra will make an appearance I hope she gets her comic and Sejuani aswell tho its tough because Waarghbobo said that it will be explained how Lissandra sealed the watchers in ,,another form of media" (probably a comic) I can only hope :)
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=0001000200020000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T12:07:45.447+0000) > > Well Odin talked about Brand trying to melt True Ice not normal Ice but not working without him using a fire elemental to truly try and focus his powers to damage TI here: https://imgur.com/mODGMPs > And im going off of the Idea that if Azir and Liss were to fight they could carry weapons into battle into a neutral territory ( Liss could thus carry True Ice but Azir cant carry sand really) > Thats why I wouldnt give it to Azir because not even an elemental like Brand can just do it.. > > Yes next Issue Im very excited its called ,,Draklorn" and they are actually not the Ice children theyre Lissandras army/frost priests/inquisitors.. The comic would make you believe that the Children are attacking them but they have nothing to do with it (Thats my theory based on the next comic Title, Ashe would have to escape the Draklorn).. > I have no doubt in my mind that Lissandra will make an appearance I hope she gets her comic and Sejuani aswell tho its tough because Waarghbobo said that it will be explained how Lissandra sealed the watchers in ,,another form of media" (probably a comic) I can only hope :) Neutral battle wouldn't mean no advantages like True Ice or sand for any of them? Plus how much True Ice can Lissandra carry? Cause if she just levitates it to the battleground, Azir could do the same with sand. I think it will be the Frost Children who lured the Avarosans into an ambush, with the ~~spanish inquisition that Ashe didn't expect~~ Draklorn then attacking. Basically, they made a deal wjth the Frost Children in exchance for... idk maybe the bow of Avarosa itself? Maybe they know where the location of the bow is?
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=0001000200020000000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-15T09:16:09.092+0000) > > Finaly I can comment after my 1 week ban. Dark Ice is corrupted True Ice. In neutral territory, she wouldn't have acces to Dark Ice. She could make normal hardened Ice barriers or use Dark Ice magic to create mist shields like Maalcrom did, but I think Azir would be able to overcome them with sunfire. But, I don't think his sunfire powers are light-speed. We need to see him using them first to know their speed, but I don't think they will be light-speed, so maybe Lissandra can redirect block some of them for a while. The thing is, without True Ice, Lissandra would take a ton of time to hurt Azir due to his durability. Sure, even her normal Ice is powerfull, but it is not True Ice/Dark Ice. You know what I was wondering where you were! Glad to see you back :) Ye again we could see any of them win depending on circumstances I think that melting it aint gonna cut so he might need to do something else (not even Brand could do it without an elemental and he is filled with rune magic) But again NO DOUBT Azir also has tricks up his sleeve ;)
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=00010002000200000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-01-15T10:14:17.789+0000) > > You know what I was wondering where you were! Glad to see you back :) > Ye again we could see any of them win depending on circumstances I think that melting it aint gonna cut so he might need to do something else (not even Brand could do it without an elemental and he is filled with rune magic) > But again NO DOUBT Azir also has tricks up his sleeve ;) Wait when did Brand try to melt True Ice? And by melting I mean melt Lissandra's normal Ice in the neutral enviorement. True Ice is kinda a hack against fire or heat in general with only one exception, Ornn. I don't think Azir could melt True Ice. Anyways tomorow the next issue of the comic is coming out, and in the cover the Frost Children warrior who is probably an Iceborn wears a Lissandra shaped helmet, with her symbol on it. Thoughts and expectations? Also I think Lissandra will appear in the last 2 issues or only the final one
: Burning Tides was the biggest shake-up to the status quo, and Shadows and Fortune acted much like an epilogue for it. But that was years ago, now. Riven still needs to find atonement, big whoop, that's what she was doing already. Yasuo also needs to find atonement... just like he was doing before. Except Confessions removed the main way Yasuo's story could advance (discovering who used the wind technique that killed the elder), and Riven... is exactly the same as before. Bloodline didn't really advance anyone, either. Nasus is the closest; he's "discovered" that Renekton and Xerath were out and hunting him (which he learned from the Azir reveal event). Sivir is still being Sivir and Xerath is still being Xerath. Taliyah's participation in that event was technically a retcon (or maybe a prequel) because we know she ended up in the capital after that. Ezreal's escapades are entertaining, but, well... that's all they are. Meaningless empty fluff that's there to pad out Universe. None of it actually *means* anything, and the little of it that MIGHT is unclear on how. There's still so much of the lore that's got INSTITUTE OF WAR as their most recent lorestate. All of that still needs fixing. And Riot focuses a LOT of its effort on prequels, on explaining the Champions' CURRENT lore state. I'm hoping that this Demacia event is a massive shake-up but I sincerely doubt it.
> [{quoted}](name=HalfTangible,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Kh5hLLsJ,comment-id=000b000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-15T06:26:34.770+0000) > > Burning Tides was the biggest shake-up to the status quo, and Shadows and Fortune acted much like an epilogue for it. But that was years ago, now. > > Riven still needs to find atonement, big whoop, that's what she was doing already. Yasuo also needs to find atonement... just like he was doing before. Except Confessions removed the main way Yasuo's story could advance (discovering who used the wind technique that killed the elder), and Riven... is exactly the same as before. > > Bloodline didn't really advance anyone, either. Nasus is the closest; he's "discovered" that Renekton and Xerath were out and hunting him (which he learned from the Azir reveal event). Sivir is still being Sivir and Xerath is still being Xerath. Taliyah's participation in that event was technically a retcon (or maybe a prequel) because we know she ended up in the capital after that. > > Ezreal's escapades are entertaining, but, well... that's all they are. Meaningless empty fluff that's there to pad out Universe. None of it actually *means* anything, and the little of it that MIGHT is unclear on how. > > There's still so much of the lore that's got INSTITUTE OF WAR as their most recent lorestate. All of that still needs fixing. And Riot focuses a LOT of its effort on prequels, on explaining the Champions' CURRENT lore state. I'm hoping that this Demacia event is a massive shake-up but I sincerely doubt it. Taliah part was her point of view based on the things she knows. She mistakes Xerath's goals for Azir's atm. It's not a retcon. Azir didn't do a 90 degree turn to his character. Remember, Taliah doesn't yet know exactly what happened, or that Azir is against slavery.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=00010002000200000000,timestamp=2019-01-13T16:18:53.737+0000) > > There is potential of true ice killing an ascended of course. It is incredibly powerful which is painful to hold even for an ascended or aspect. But we don't how much is needed to defeat an ascended like Azir, and Lissandra can't create true ice, only manipulate it. > > I think; > > In Shurima Azir > Lissandra by far, > > In Freljord, an area full of true ice Lissandra > Azir by far, > > In neutral territory Azir > Lissandra, due to Azir being an ascended of incredible durability and having sun blasts of light speed, while Lissandra being fragile glass canon that she can die to single attack. Azir can also fly and use telekinesis. > > Azir is definitely not an average ascended, his powers are immense. An ascended champion should never be average anyway. > > Azir is politically the most important and powerful leader right now in Runeterra AFAWK. If he havent had rivalry with freaking Xerath, he would be a huge pain in the ass for Noxus. I agree with everything, lissandra cant create true ice is quite a disadvantage.. And yes we dont know how much is needed to kill an ascended so we can speculate :) One thing that I would say is that in neutral territory lissandra would win because she can shield herself with dark ice barriers and she can carry true ice to battle while azir is in big disadvantage if there is no sand.. But again I respect your opinion of Azir winning and its for sure a possiblity because as you said Lissandra cant self heal (not without her priests) (btw. more comics are coming out so maybe we will know more in the future) Thank you for the a nice little discussion
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=000100020002000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-13T16:32:41.620+0000) > > I agree with everything, lissandra cant create true ice is quite a disadvantage.. And yes we dont know how much is needed to kill an ascended so we can speculate :) > > One thing that I would say is that in neutral territory lissandra would win because she can shield herself with dark ice barriers and she can carry true ice to battle while azir is in big disadvantage if there is no sand.. > But again I respect your opinion of Azir winning and its for sure a possiblity because as you said Lissandra cant self heal (not without her priests) (btw. more comics are coming out so maybe we will know more in the future) > Thank you for the a nice little discussion Finaly I can comment after my 1 week ban. Dark Ice is corrupted True Ice. In neutral territory, she wouldn't have acces to Dark Ice. She could make normal hardened Ice barriers or use Dark Ice magic to create mist shields like Maalcrom did, but I think Azir would be able to overcome them with sunfire. But, I don't think his sunfire powers are light-speed. We need to see him using them first to know their speed, but I don't think they will be light-speed, so maybe Lissandra can redirect block some of them for a while. The thing is, without True Ice, Lissandra would take a ton of time to hurt Azir due to his durability. Sure, even her normal Ice is powerfull, but it is not True Ice/Dark Ice.
y0r1ck (NA)
: You can't just say x vs y go. Do they have any preparation? Are we going by lore or in game? Do they see each other at the same time? Volibear lore is much more op compared to in game.
> [{quoted}](name=y0r1ck,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=agJq1Edm,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-01-13T20:53:07.584+0000) > > You can't just say x vs y go. Do they have any preparation? Are we going by lore or in game? Do they see each other at the same time? Volibear lore is much more op compared to in game. If it's on the SA&S boards I assume it's lore
: How powerful is Renekton and Azir in lore?
Azir is arguably very close, if not same level, as Xerath while in Shurima due to his control over his homeland. Renekton would be Nasus tier, because while he doesn't use magic like Nasus does, he is his physical superior, being the 2nd physical Ascended ever (after only pre-Darkin Ascended Aatrox), and his ferocity is unrivaled. Still, Freljordian demi-gods are very close to Xerath level, one of them (Ornn, the strongest of them) being on par with Xerath and Azir in Shurima. Volibear is very close to Ornn in powerlevel. He should beat Renekton 9.5/10 due to better physical stats except maybe speed (wrestled with Ornn, who shaped Freljord's terrain through brute strenght), uses magic-like powers (aka his lighting and storms). The only advantage Renekton has is in weaponry, but when your opponent can shoot directly or call down upon you lighting, lighting storms, strikes, and other shit like that, that 1 advantage is insognificant
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=mrmeddyman,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=fEqGHwn5,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-14T22:42:49.378+0000) > > "You mean Institute of War? It doesn't exist, according to ~~cowards ~~ the rational human beings that retconned it." > > Fixed that for you Acting like something never existed is not what a rational human being would do
> [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=fEqGHwn5,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-14T22:48:00.496+0000) > > Acting like something never existed is not what a rational human being would do Meanwhile DC and Marvel regarding comic industry...
Altronza (NA)
: Does Petricite Affect the Void, Chemtech, and Hextech. If so in what way?
Hextech: Probably hextech doesn't work around petricite since it uses magical crystals as energy source Chemtech: It uses chemicals so it shouldn't be affected by petricite Void: Srsly I think it depends on the Voidborn. Most of them are organic and use plasma tho so Petricite shouldn't be bothering those.
Altronza (NA)
: What are the various ship designs of the factions? (Q3 of 5)
I think Shurima ships were mentioned in Piltover's story called "Day of progress"
: I think it may really depend on the mage if they have hard or soft magic limits, I think some mages like the mentioned Taliyah is definitely hard limited on being an earth mage and even a mage like Lissandra is hard limited on being an ice mage but I think the more arcane-y style mages like Ryze and Xerath can possibly branch off on to other types of magics.
> [{quoted}](name=Spideraxe,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Ot8NMNHO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-06T03:23:18.877+0000) > > I think it may really depend on the mage if they have hard or soft magic limits, I think some mages like the mentioned Taliyah is definitely hard limited on being an earth mage and even a mage like Lissandra is hard limited on being an ice mage but I think the more arcane-y style mages like Ryze and Xerath can possibly branch off on to other types of magics. Ryze uses arcane and runic. Xerath uses cosmic and arcane at once.
: Hard or soft magic systems?
Harder. That said, a magic type (like arcane for example) should always be able to get new spells/abilities in future stories
: Most Badass champs of each role
For me: Tank: {{champion:516}} Bruiser: {{champion:75}} Knew he will lose against Xeratg badly, still went to fight him. Mage: {{champion:13}} For 1000 years he has defended the human race from the World Runes and has resisted their corruption. He has 1 shotted a mid-high tier Voidborn and beated the shit out of Brand, someone who had a World Rune inside him Assasin: {{champion:238}} Even tho I hate him in-game, he is pretty cool in-lore with his shadow magic tehniques. ADC: {{champion:15}} or {{champion:202}} The first went against a dangerous tribe of warriors in Shurima while wounded and scared them shitless, and is the reason for the ressurection of Azir and thus the rebuild of Shurima. The latter is a sadic artist with a ton of weapons that has done so many "artistic" crimes, even Shen and Zed were traumatised. Support: Don't know if it counts since it's not tehnically a support even tho it's played support sometimes, but {{champion:161}} . The Smartest and the most powerfull Voidborn alive.
The Iceborn (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xFyG7jRT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-04T21:43:28.567+0000) > > The rift isn't cannon. The Summoners don't exist anymore. Instead, we got a beatifull world where each faction matters (except Bilgewater xD) to the world, each with its own culture, politics, and interactions with neighbours, as well as history. We also have some upcoming lore events and build-ups. Hell no you cant shade out fellow bilgewatians(?) like that XD
> [{quoted}](name=The Iceborn,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=xFyG7jRT,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-01-04T21:48:39.081+0000) > > Hell no you cant shade out fellow bilgewatians(?) like that XD Well they basically just exist... and that's all. No one is trying to invade them, they are not trying to invade anyone, they don't have any history to make them important, they don't have any important threat that could potentiality endanger more nations (no, Black Mist doesn't count cause that's related to Shadow Isles). They basically just... exist.
ChrilleN (NA)
: New Cannon
The rift isn't cannon. The Summoners don't exist anymore. Instead, we got a beatifull world where each faction matters (except Bilgewater xD) to the world, each with its own culture, politics, and interactions with neighbours, as well as history. We also have some upcoming lore events and build-ups.
EdgeLady (NA)
: 2018 Skin Lore Tournament - 3RD PLACE FINALS: Interview: Inside K/DA vs The Slumber Party Summoning
: >Also, he is holding the crown arrogantly, something Jarvan wouldn't do even if he turned evil. Also, Jarvan's spear is standing in front of him, shattered. Jarvan wouldn't shatter his own spear. This is where you’re wrong. This is the exact type of thing Riot will do even if it contradicts everything. This is even more proof it’s Jarvan. Riot hates Demacia and Jarvan. >opposed to the other pics, the man's face on the throne is not shown. Neither is his armor, and unlike Garen, Lux and Galio, he is not chained to anything. Because it’s showing Jarvan as this tyrant figure. The trick with lightning plays into that. By reliable source I meant an actual rioter like my source.
> [{quoted}](name=Motonari Mori,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Fj5vvYMr,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-01-04T18:43:18.392+0000) > > This is where you’re wrong. This is the exact type of thing Riot will do even if it contradicts everything. This is even more proof it’s Jarvan. Riot hates Demacia and Jarvan. > The fuck? It doenst make any sense. > Because it’s showing Jarvan as this tyrant figure. The trick with lightning plays into that. By reliable source I meant an actual rioter like my source. And what is your said source?
Terozu (NA)
: Demacia's Universe page now features a demolished Demacian city.
Where are the previous visions tho? The ones that show the city. Where can I find them?
: What do you mean last laugh? I want it to NOT be Jarvan. But I’m not going to blindly ignore evidence that’s right there under my nose. But please do enlighten my day and give me a reliable source that says it’s not Jarvan. I need this to not be triggered right now so please answer me.
> [{quoted}](name=Motonari Mori,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Fj5vvYMr,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-04T18:09:21.898+0000) > > What do you mean last laugh? I want it to NOT be Jarvan. But I’m not going to blindly ignore evidence that’s right there under my nose. But please do enlighten my day and give me a reliable source that says it’s not Jarvan. I need this to not be triggered right now so please answer me. Ok. Here is thee evidence. As opposed to the other pics, the man's face on the throne is not shown. Neither is his armor, and unlike Garen, Lux and Galio, he is not chained to anything. He is weilding those chains. The chains are loose in that pic. Also, he is holding the crown arrogantly, something Jarvan wouldn't do even if he turned evil. Also, Jarvan's spear is standing in front of him, shattered. Jarvan wouldn't shatter his own spear.
: It’s Jarvan on the throne. The file name is chained Jarvan and a rioter confirmed its Jarvan. I understand why you think it’s someone evil though because it does look like a tyrant. Looks like Riot turned Jarvan into a tyrant :)
> [{quoted}](name=Motonari Mori,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Fj5vvYMr,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-01-04T14:35:18.304+0000) > > It’s Jarvan on the throne. The file name is chained Jarvan and a rioter confirmed its Jarvan. I understand why you think it’s someone evil though because it does look like a tyrant. Looks like Riot turned Jarvan into a tyrant :) Umm no. It's not Jarvan. Anyways we will have the last laugh when it will be shown it's not Jarvan.
Moody P (NA)
: If Volibear is so hated then why do Freljordians drink his piss?
Maybe it's something even worse than his piss 0_0
Terozu (NA)
: Ohhh interesting, it seems to show Lux casting Final Spark and Garen casting Judgement and Galio casting his ult. Also is that Jarvan?
> [{quoted}](name=Terozu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7eL0mARA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-03T18:09:33.812+0000) > > Ohhh interesting, it seems to show Lux casting Final Spark and Garen casting Judgement and Galio casting his ult. > > Also is that Jarvan? Thats not Jarvan. Thats the new champ. He isnt chained like Lux and Garen are, he is holding the chains and his face and armor aren't shown because he is the new champ
: Jarvan IV got turned into a tyrant.
King Lego (EUNE)
: Hold on a sec...didn't Sion kill J3 and is using his crown as his jaw?!?
> [{quoted}](name=King Lego,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=yEXJnPmJ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-02T21:21:42.047+0000) > > Hold on a sec...didn't Sion kill J3 and is using his crown as his jaw?!? That was Jarvan the First.
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=8hFTJWf7,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-01-02T13:17:31.747+0000) > > Idk what is Bird Box. Can someone explain what happens exactly in these conditions OP said? Based on what I've seen the others say, I chose: > {{champion:101}} for offensive > {{champion:127}} for blind > {{champion:13}} so he can teleport me the fuck away from enemies If you see "something" that is outside, you commit suicide, that is why Blind champions would be op in that situation. Worshippers are people who saw the thing, but became insane instead and try to force other people into seeing the "something" that is outside. What is that something? No idea, but the Worshippers said that it was something beautiful. And birds know when the "something" is near and i think that they are inmune... so Anivia could be usefull.
> [{quoted}](name=Ebonmaw Dragon,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=8hFTJWf7,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-01-02T15:33:28.734+0000) > > If you see "something" that is outside, you commit suicide, that is why Blind champions would be op in that situation. > > Worshippers are people who saw the thing, but became insane instead and try to force other people into seeing the "something" that is outside. > > What is that something? No idea, but the Worshippers said that it was something beautiful. > > And birds know when the "something" is near and i think that they are inmune... so Anivia could be usefull. Ah. In that case, put Azir there instead of Xerath (cause if Xerath commits suicide, the whole city is gonna explode so no thanks). I think he counts since he is a falcon Ascended
drash79 (NA)
: You're in the Bird box: you can only pick one blind champion and two with eye sight
Idk what is Bird Box. Can someone explain what happens exactly in these conditions OP said? Based on what I've seen the others say, I chose: {{champion:101}} for offensive {{champion:127}} for blind {{champion:13}} so he can teleport me the fuck away from enemies
: Riot needs to start getting more ballsy with their champion ideas. A lot of these new ideas are either stale, or the ones that are at least interesting on an aesthetic level get bogged down by piss poor attempts at making SJW crowds feel included like with the Varus update, and Neeko release.
> [{quoted}](name=HUNGERTROSS,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ZqM3WRPI,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-01-01T13:59:12.997+0000) > > Riot needs to start getting more ballsy with their champion ideas. A lot of these new ideas are either stale, or the ones that are at least interesting on an aesthetic level get bogged down by piss poor attempts at making SJW crowds feel included like with the Varus update, and Neeko release. I wanted to bash your comment, but now that I think about it, you are somewhat right. Most of the champs I'm excited about are actually upcoming reworks like probably Morde and Volibear. Neeko annoys the sh** out of me with her gameplay, and even her lore feels bad to read because she feels like a hippiotic maniac that still kills people without aknowleding it.
: Currently the weeaboos and pseudofurs of Ionippon are beating Chad Noxus by 40%. Acceptable losses, we will triumph through strength of quality over quantity. Expected. Did not expect Shurima to be such a strong outlier. Suspect Azir is using sand soldier accounts to cheat in polls; he _is_ currently being investigated for election meddling against Cassiopeia. Mean of 34, Standard Deviation of 17.11, Median of 26. Only Shurima, Iona, and GLORIOUS NOXUS are above the mean. Pretty much everyone else is hovering in the 0 < z < -1 morass. Except Bilgewater, z = -1.17, more than an entire standard deviation below the mean. Really guys, the pirate mafia shanty town? With the cool Slaughter Bridge reskin and the awesome loading screen music? Wow, turn off the anime and go catch up on Black Sails. Bilgewater bros, you can thank me later by quietly opening the gates to Noxus as honorary warmasons. Strength through mathematics. Strength through statistical transformation of data. Strength through Noxus. {{champion:122}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:7}}
> [{quoted}](name=Von Brohenheim,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IMh6FI2N,comment-id=0030,timestamp=2019-01-01T18:49:53.579+0000) > > Currently the weeaboos and pseudofurs of Ionippon are beating Chad Noxus by 40%. Acceptable losses, we will triumph through strength of quality over quantity. Expected. > > Did not expect Shurima to be such a strong outlier. Suspect Azir is using sand soldier accounts to cheat in polls; he _is_ currently being investigated for election meddling against Cassiopeia. > > Mean of 34, Standard Deviation of 17.11, Median of 26. > > Only Shurima, Iona, and GLORIOUS NOXUS are above the mean. Pretty much everyone else is hovering in the 0 &lt; z &lt; -1 morass. Except Bilgewater, z = -1.17, more than an entire standard deviation below the mean. > > Really guys, the pirate mafia shanty town? With the cool Slaughter Bridge reskin and the awesome loading screen music? Wow, turn off the anime and go catch up on Black Sails. Bilgewater bros, you can thank me later by quietly opening the gates to Noxus as honorary warmasons. > > Strength through mathematics. Strength through statistical transformation of data. Strength through Noxus. > {{champion:122}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:7}} Chad Shurima>> Chad Noxus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weeb Ionia
Caithresh (EUW)
: Your maths just killed my head .-. Anyway, for Shurima being first... I know for a fact that someone sent the link on a Shurima-loving subreddit to get more votes for Shurima, because this person didn't like the idea of Shurima "losing" (even tho it's not about that). So it may fuck up the poll, sadly...
> [{quoted}](name=Caithresh,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IMh6FI2N,comment-id=00300000,timestamp=2019-01-01T19:48:39.037+0000) > > Your maths just killed my head .-. > > Anyway, for Shurima being first... I know for a fact that someone sent the link on a Shurima-loving subreddit to get more votes for Shurima, because this person didn&#x27;t like the idea of Shurima &quot;losing&quot; (even tho it&#x27;s not about that). So it may fuck up the poll, sadly... Hehehehehehehehe..... (ok srsly now sry for that. If someone does that in the future Ill advertise that to all League subreddits not just the Shurima ones (also the discord servers like Noxus mains) so everyone that is into the lore can vote.
tuotuoli (NA)
: {{champion:268}} {{champion:268}}{{champion:268}}**ALL HAIL THE EMPEROR AZIR. ALL IONIAN SCRUBS WILL BURN!!!!!!**{{champion:268}}{{champion:268}}{{champion:268}}
> [{quoted}](name=tuotuoli,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IMh6FI2N,comment-id=000300000001,timestamp=2019-01-01T01:30:12.893+0000) > > {{champion:268}} {{champion:268}}{{champion:268}}**ALL HAIL THE EMPEROR AZIR. ALL IONIAN SCRUBS WILL BURN!!!!!!**{{champion:268}}{{champion:268}}{{champion:268}} I aprove. SHURIMA SHALL RISE AGAIN! (without slaves this time, we're cool) AND THE WORLD SHALL BATH IN ITS LIGHT ONCE MORE! NOXUS AND IONIA THE LAND OF THE WEEBS ARE NOTHING TO THE GLORIOUS SHURIMA! SHURIMAAAAA
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