: Why Do We Lose LP With an AFK?
Only reason for this to happen would be if the AFK lost the LP that all 5 would lose. Or it creates MMR and LP inflation. So 1 afk would be = 85+ lost LP for that person. I would be fine with that
: Hey riot I left a game to get food for two or three min on a winning game that we eventually won when coming back to my computer. Then after the game I see that I lost 19 lp instead of gained ? That is an issue.
I highly doubt it was 2-3 mins. Cause I have been dcd for longer and didn't get AFK by the system. Maybe if you was 5 min afk. And why didn't you just wait for the game to end before leaving?
SiG DxD (EUNE)
: so i just got 687 damage from IGNITE from lvl 13 yasuo
I've "taken damage" from champs that were on my team according to death recap. It's just fucked up and shows no real values
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kyqFOkGo,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-17T17:15:45.132+0000) > > Well, if you realised that pro meant more than 99,9% of the community. You wouldn't have to make these threads. > > Irelia was pick ban in pro play and masters+ for a very long time. Twtich jungle isn't So the other 99.9 of irelias can go fuck ourselves because some MLG dude is super good with her?
Yes. (that's not my opinion btw, just riot's, I wanna be clear)
: X champion doesn't belong in Y lane
Well, if you realised that pro meant more than 99,9% of the community. You wouldn't have to make these threads. Irelia was pick ban in pro play and masters+ for a very long time. Twtich jungle isn't
: Hashinshin: MR items are weak, Armor items are too strong
If only people stopped watching his stream... And making money for a bad player with a bad attitude that does only bad to the already toxic community... (personal opinion obviously)
: PSA: Stop asking for nerfs to champions when it's the keystones that break them!
Yeah I am sure it's just aftershock when she was picked bot in pro play with guardian. And also froggen picked her mid... again in PRO
Gutsie (NA)
: Fabled ARAM Balance team
My problem with the aram balancing team is that they balance around ALL aram instead of only HIGH MMR ARAMS.
: im not talking about saving myself .. read the topic carefully
Kindred ult is amazingly powerful mate. Try again.
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dOEEnRhE,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-16T15:24:35.430+0000) > > Can you show OP.GG of the game? no because i don't wanna name and shame those players that played in my team.
ahahaha. Ok, pal. There is no rule against telling us your account's name. Just say it. Unless you hiding something
: Tank meta was the lesser of two evils
ahahahah. 20-25 mins? have you even checked average game times? (surrenders not included for obv reasons)
Boxcart (NA)
: Someone Lay Out the Sauce for Me Here Bois and Gals. Explain This.
Just play ranked if you want to be vs people of your rank. Normals are for fun and have a different MMR. For all you know your enemies have 50 normal games each. Or they always FF before ending the nexus. Normals mean nothing so people treat them like that(as they should) so their MMR in normals isn't at all related to skill level
: its not if you start tear 4 lucky charm 1 juvi bead rush redemption for vision/heal but hey ive only played 6k arams what do i know?
: I had 100% win rate on Nasus in 35 games and now I lost like this..
: Nullifying Orb Rune, be able to choose to be a Magic or physical shield
Or make it be the same name as Sterak and Drinker. So it's not favoring AD champs. and be done with it
: Woah, karma is coming out of left field?
Revert karma? {{sticker:zombie-nunu-hearts}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QKp7UIJU,comment-id=0000000300010000,timestamp=2019-06-12T21:38:26.313+0000) > > They don't need to 1v1, they can kite. You can't kite morde for 4 seconds? The ult last 7 seconds guy and is point blank cast????
Zhonyas is 2,5 though. And I am replying to someone, just look at the whole reply chain before you reply to someone. We are talking about mages. Yeah a mage should be able to kite morde in the R realm.
: Pyke flash stuns, Qs, autos and ults you... from out of vision. He doesn't channel it
in a 5v5 teamfight the ADC was the closest person to fog of war? Sounds like great player.
Coyote (NA)
: PSA: Do NOT accept a queue after a dodge or failed accept on the found game screen!
Main role? So, you got 258 times your primary role? Or 258 with primary+secondary? Did you have support in any of your choices?
: I am a Nasus player. I've played Nasus since season 2. I've got thousands of games on him.
If tahm destroys your nasus early, what do you do vs the real hard counters like {{champion:85}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:112}}... You know, all those people that simply don't let you even stay under your tower without dying as nasus early?
FSRER (EUNE)
: And alongside that, maybe make aftershock melee only? I mean, I have no problem for Klepto, but seeing a ranged mage get +70 armor and magic resist because he did a stun is way too much.
I am 98% for that. the 2% is Rakan and Thresh. Thresh is great pick so he can afford to lose it, rakan in soloq will lose both pick and win % I feel if he is forced to guardian/unsealed every game
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JKpsF5ek,comment-id=000b000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:56:27.424+0000) > > 53% winrate in diamond+ and in masters+. I guess we need to play some bots with you to teach us, God. Thats nothing, actually fucking terrible. Majority of riven players are one tricks, so a champion one trick peaks at 53%. Thats low.
10% pick rate, Only OTPS playing her somehow... Right. So everything thats 10% or lower we are allowing to be 53% winrate cause 10% means it's OTPS only.
KoKoboto (NA)
: Idgaf about the similarities or differences or if one is better than the other. I just think it's stupid cause both are forms of CC yet for whatever reason you can't QSS Camille ult. I just want consistency. lool
Then Jarvan ult should be QSSable too right?
RéktSai (NA)
: Can we remove AutoFill already?
We could, if riot made all roles equally desirable to play. Thing is, if you queue up as the 2 most wanted roles(primary and secondary) it could be 20-30 mins before you find a game without autofill. A solution to remove auto fill would be to force people that queue up as the MOST desired role to have mandatory secondary role the LEAST desired role. Then those with 2nd most wanted role can chose between the 2 bottom desired roles. 3rd 4th and 5th desired roles would be guaranteed. this way people that queue as the 2 most wanted roles will get at least 50% their preferred role and the rest 100% their desired role.
: You're right, has nothing to do with people throwing games. In a game where 9 other people can affect the outcome, 4 of them being on my team as opposed to just me has nothing to do with it. Why didn't I think of that? My 1/8 jungler and 4/16 bot would disagree with you when I was 3/1 :/ but what do they know? or maybe the 1/10 renekton top when i was 11/4 jinx adc? Yea, doubt I've 'peaked' when I'm still performing well in my games, performing better than people who are supposedly in a higher rank than I am. It's been 3 years now of FREQUENTLY going on win streaks followed by even worse lose streaks when I'm in the middle of any division climb, whether I'm rocketing past S2-S1 (still experience it there, but with less severity since I carry harder) and then again in G2-G1. Why do you think I'm alluding to a 'conspiracy'? Is that your attempt to debase my argument by using a pejorative? I just think their algorithm for matchmaking and attempt to keep players at 50% (indirectly through the likelihood of winning a game by say putting you in a group of average gold 4 vs a group of average gold 1 is clearly unfair and slanted heavily in one sides favour) There's no 'conspiracy' that is literally how they openly say they've designed matchmaking. That process indirectly forces players close to 50%, look at the average win rate for every player on any of the servers, you mention exceptions but like any data set those are just anomalies. Obviously A diamond in gold 1 against people who are even plat 2 will still stomp, what sort of argument is that?
Yeah it's your team's fault that you average 4,7 CS ON YOUR MAIN. You need to accept you are bad, that's step 1. Then you need to improve
: Inagine complaining about riven instead of getting better at the game, ahhhh
What? like she has huge winrates in diamond+ and masters+.
: It's really funny how Riven isn't even in the Top 10 most banned top lane champions but you people are always complaining about her. She's also only 8th in win rate. No one bans her, but then you want to turn around and complain how "not fun" she is to play against. I don't think the problem is Riven, seems like the problem has something to do with you people. Obviously she doesn't need nerfed if you don't see her as a big enough threat to ban her. There are literally 8 Top lane champions that have over a 20% ban rate, with Yasuo and Aatrox being around 40%. Oh and if you don't play Top, you shouldn't even talk about champions related to it. There's nothing worse than when I see ADC and Support mains complaining about Top laners. You aren't the ones playing the lane, you don't know how broken or not broken the champion is.
53% winrate in diamond+ 53% winrate in masters+ But I am sure you know better.
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JKpsF5ek,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-06-14T20:16:06.634+0000) > > yeah in bot games she isn't In any game, unless youre just bad.
53% winrate in diamond+ and in masters+. I guess we need to play some bots with you to teach us, God.
: > [{quoted}](name=Relax I am noob,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zQrN2E4j,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-14T17:52:38.962+0000) > > Sona is OP. Her win rate is insane but Riot's new balancing philosophy sucks. She's been like this for ages. This isn't "new" at all.
Well she is picked a lot in pro and not even with taric. I guess riot will do something now. (anyone saw patric's sona in LEC? xD that shit is so fucked up) I say nerf that bitch to the ground. One of the champs with the least skill required. 1 Skillshot every 2 minutes + aoe mindless heals+shields+speedups. Wasn't karma gutted for FAR FAR less?
Pika Fox (NA)
: Riven wasnt an issue and still isnt an issue. Why suggest a useless nerf?
: Thats not the problem at all with her kit, so i feel like nerfing that wouldnt be enough and then we'd call it ''enough''..
it would add skill expression though. Especially losing the longer Q if you engage with full combo with R to kill a squishy (or three lol) should be the tradeoff for bursting so hard.
: No, I happen to disagree. I've considered the numbers and I'm fine with it. I love how gamers pretend like they don't spend a ton of time playing. But let me accept that is actually the case. I still say so what. If Riot implemented my idea (They won't) and reset us all (again never) I'd be excited. Because I knew when I was able to play ranked it would be with people who weren't practicing and wasting my time and effort by playing champs they have zero XP playing.
How about we permaban people from ranked if their winrate in their first 100 ranked games is sub 49%. then they need to play 100 normals and if they don't get over 51% winrate they need another 100 games. Wouldn't that increase ranked player population skills much more than your proposal? (this isn't viable I know, it's a bad idea, but you just want stuff that suits YOU PERSONALLY because you play a lot.) It doesn't even matter cause bad players will be in bad elo and good players in good elo in the end no matter the system. Everyone gets where they deserve.
: I disagree, if it was a 1v1 sure, but it's a team game. And since it is I feel like people shouldn't be allowed to practice in a ranked game.
Too bad for you riot has sense then. I need to play 10 games minimum on a champ to bring them in ranked? Even if I have played it tons on other accounts? And I need to spam games on 20 champs to get in ranked? xD that's just delusional, and it gimps people that don't want to waste all their time "enabling" champs for ranked.
Ackelope (NA)
: rip, I guess that makes about every ADC player that has played a good couple of games, on the pro level and otherwise, an idiot. Unfortunate.
Cause in 5v5 teamfights high elo adcs get hit by pyke Q how often?
: How many older players feel like they only play 2-5 champs due to reworks?
I play since season 2 and watch since season 1 (buddies played, I was more of an MMORPG player back then) I enjoy the game more now but that's because I am an ARAM only player and Runes reforged is like it was meant to be an aram system. :) That said, most of the things you claim to have enjoyed back then were either extremely niche and are unplayable simply because people are not as bad at the game as they were back then or used to be busted as fuck (like the tank spellvamp ryze) The truth is there are far more champions viable in top elo right now than there used to be back then. And also nowadays riot has gone away from creating easy champions in favour of more complicated and high skillcap champs
: How does he have a sub 50% winrate mid then? https://www.op.gg/champion/yasuo/statistics/mid
People here don't like facts.
Tailypo (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yUWqRxQt,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-13T19:10:22.666+0000) > > then why does he have negative winrates vs all the mages according to stats in plat+ ? > > Explain please, what makes yasuo good aside from his enemy being a trash player that can't get good. Can you read? I didnt say anything about his winrate vs mages in plat+. I said mages are basically forced under the tower to survive his early game damage. He absolutely shits on mages that underestimate his early game, and I've seen it happen countless times.
sounds like they need to get good then and not underestimate his early. They can stomp him if they play correctly
: Yep. That's what League of Legends is in 2019. No skill required dive champion kill fests. Go 9/0 bot lane in diamond. Enemy mid is 4/0 zed. Game is over. Surrender at 15 because your adc isn't allowed to play the game anymore unless you picked Lulu support. It's boring. Main champions that peel like Morgana, Janna, and Lulu. Get shit on kid. Nerf nerf nerf nerf nerf. Play a champion that requires skill like Hecarim instead! He runs at you and right clicks you to do half of your hp! What an impressive player!
at 9/0 my adc can afford a stopwatch for every time zed has his R up.
: If you don't peel for your ADC: Don't expect them to survive.
Yeah kinda true, but adcs need to stop commiting if they don't have a clear escape plan in mind. Just stay outside of the enemy champions range, just don't auto anyone until you have a clear plan of how to navigate the fight. Zac has a huge ass shadow bellow you, cho Q takes 5 years to erupt, and if my adc is hit by pyke Q the adc is an idiot. Also, PSA!!! ADC PLAYERS 600g for a stopwatch is a great investment! you don't need to upgrade it, if it wins you a teamfight the investment was worth it. LEARN TO USE THE FUCKING THING, especially if your flash is down, just sacrifice the 600g it's nothing
: Check banrate instead
Banrate means people don't want to play against it. Ban rate is 100% influenced by people's preference, winrate isn't
nZrLucien (EUW)
: Winrate doesn't mean shit. Akali was at a 48% winrate while people complained about her till her eventual nerf. The only reason Yasuo has a 47% winrate is because he is the second highest picked champion in the midlane, again plat+. When you have so many people playing him, and not necessarily one tricks his winrate is bound to drop.
Akali was pick ban in pro play tho. And had godly winrate in masters+. Try again.
: I have less than 50% WR on probably most of my champs. So I shouldn't be able to main my best champions because I lost a few games? GTFO with this shit. I'm lucky to get an S in a month of playing, doesn't mean I'm bad at what I do. But I'm sure me being B3 will ofc invalidate everything I said because I don't have S5 time to get to gold like I did once.
My comment was sarcastic mate. Wanted to point out that needing 50k mastery to play a champ in ranked is just delusional. Let people play what they want where they want. As it is now :) cheers and happy fighting mate!
Unker139 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ApdE1dGU,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T21:22:41.816+0000) > > They could simply make it so dodge=lose MMR which is essentially your rank so your climb would be thwarted. Don't matter if it means you aren't worse, you drop MMR cause you are cheating and to simply discourage it. > > Didn't we lose like 1/3 of a win's worth of elo back in season 2 per dodge? MMR is a bet zero system. If someone loses MMR for a dodge, then someone else has to gain. You DO lose LP for dodging which affects your rank.
Yeah but that's not hard to implement. Let's say if you dodge you lose 9 MMR/elo which is gained by the 9 people that wasted their time in the lobby(in their next game they each get 1 more point if they win and lose 1 less if they lose).
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K2qrrgA7,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-13T21:41:18.970+0000) > > You are the only one that afkd in the camile game. You have one completed item in 40 mins. > > You are an afker. Good day > {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} I mean you can say that but tis not true
Oh so you just happened to be outleveled by your support, have 2k less gold, and not even 100 cs at 40 mins without AFKing. Riiiiight.
: Not the the case in either game . Guy u jg dc top dc adc and sup wana go 3v5 I’m not with that bs. I have a mid game as a melee against lux bad pick yea. Did I start roaming yeah lot of utility vs waiting to int kills in a lane with a jg who then went afk.
You are the only one that afkd in the camile game. You have one completed item in 40 mins. You are an afker. Good day {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: These people wat do you mean these people
So, you decided to afk as well when your team is trying to win and are all ahead except for you. nice
: oh i wasnt aware you could qss IN the realm, but i was more making this post in the perspective of someone with {{item:3222}} but noted though, thanks.
I asked yesterday and people said you can't mikael's it
: > [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ApdE1dGU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-13T21:13:04.381+0000) > > You have to understand that divisions mean NOTHING. It's a cosmetic element. It means fuck all about matchmaking. > > MMR determines who you are matched with AKA determines the skill of the players you play with and against. > > > It would be better if MMR was visible as our rank imo. Cause divisions cause too much confusion for no reason pretty much spot on, but i think the reason they didn't want to show MMR originally was because its easy to strategically dodge until you get a favorable team, and you don't lose MMR on dodges because it makes no sense to being that it doesn't prove you're somehow worse. so you could actively game the system, thus creating like 10 min queues.
They could simply make it so dodge=lose MMR which is essentially your rank so your climb would be thwarted. Don't matter if it means you aren't worse, you drop MMR cause you are cheating and to simply discourage it. Didn't we lose like 1/3 of a win's worth of elo back in season 2 per dodge?
: they make no money off that tho
What? Who says so? If someone makes 50-100$ per hour in their job, how much time would they waste to grind BE for champs? If you aren't paying for it with money you are paying for it with time. Riot takes both, what's more important to you?
KSGHook (NA)
: Could someone calmly explain why MMR is a good system to me?
You have to understand that divisions mean NOTHING. It's a cosmetic element. It means fuck all about matchmaking. MMR determines who you are matched with AKA determines the skill of the players you play with and against. It would be better if MMR was visible as our rank imo. Cause divisions cause too much confusion for no reason
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