: I just realised... League went from
Season 5 is when it all went to dogshit
: Why you shouldn't play adc
Yeah what about the rest of us who aren't bronze tho ?
: > [{quoted}](name=Sambalai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y2TtRzRE,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-28T14:07:15.013+0000) > > Here we go again, AD sion was terrible garbage noone played. Why? He could be kited by anything. I guess if you were bronze at the time he could be OP in your eyes. youre correct that ad sion was only strong in very rare circumstances because of how easy he was to kite (though the direct target stun on his q had a pretty low cooldown, and he wasnt THAT easy to kite as a restult either). but ap sion was pretty bonkers for most of his existence and had seen play in pro because of his cheesy trading patterns. like, youre right. people tend to have rose colored glasses when it comes to a lot of the pre rework champions. aatrox? garbage fiora? shitty assassin who would q into the enemy, press r and pray that she kills, because she didnt have follow up yorick? bonkers in lane, but nerfed to garbage as a result some of the champions that were reworked, were legitamately strong though, and partially reworked because of toxic playstiles.
Yeah but this is exactly what I'm talking about in the thread "ad sion could become an incredibly powerful melee carry who could build full crit, and tiamat and wipe the floor with your whole team." ... Gross overexaggerations like these. Yeah that could happen, if your entire team stood still for like 15 seconds and didn't fight back. In a realistic scenario he'd pop his ulti, stun the adc, get chain CC locked and ignited and blown up. But anyway a simple banshee veil could negate AP Sion's entire existence, But even so he was never ban worthy.
: > [{quoted}](name=Sambalai,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y2TtRzRE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-28T12:58:46.363+0000) > > You're exaggerating or using selective memory. Old Sion was super predictable and only famous for his roams which only worked against garbage players. Once teamfights came around it was legit 4v5 and Sion's piroity targets could build banshee and render him even more useless. Did I mention he had no ulti? he was joking. one of old sions main damage abilities was his q. petrifying gaze or what it was called. so technically he killed you by looking at you. whole a lot of those champions were reworked because they were garbage tier, some of the old champions were pretty busted. sion was one of them. ad sion could become an incredibly powerful melee carry who could build full crit, and tiamat and wipe the floor with your whole team. ap sion had kindof a broken trading pattern that not many champions had an answer to.
Here we go again, AD sion was terrible garbage noone played. Why? He could be kited by anything. I guess if you were bronze at the time he could be OP in your eyes.
: You are correct about him being useless in team fights. This is why you won the game before team fights when playing him. The speed at which he could roam also made its predictability irrelevant because after 1 item he never had to be in lane. He could just do a drive by and press W clearing the entire middle lane instantly with the exception of cannons that he had to Q.
Yes and then get poked down by any decent mid laner while his shield was down, and guess what ? 30 sec later the minions are back. Old Sion was a trash cheese pick that never went above 51% win rate. Stop exaggerating.
: For those who don't know, a 3 item Sion at level 13 could do 1730 +15% max life damage with his Q, W, and Deathfire Grasp while you were stunned for 2 seconds.
Except anyone above silver knew to build banshee veil + mercs or take cleanse vs Sion and just stay out of his range
: "Old Talon was so broken bro, like, you couldn't play a mage against him he was so imba dude!" except any good mage could poke him to hell and back during his atrocious early game, his slow only lasted 0.25s and the silence prior to that was only good for cancelling channels or delaying flashes. WOAH BRO HOLD ON OLD TALON? {{champion:91}}? WITH THE SILENCE???? GIVE ME BACK MY TALON!! SHOW ME YOUR MAGES WHEN YOU GET HUSHED FOR A GOOD SECOND OF DOOM
Yeah old Talon was one of my favorite champs, very fluid and fun with clear weaknesses and strengths. This new Talon feels too gimmicky and I haven't touched him since rework.
: old {{champion:14}} could literally kill you just by looking at you. no exaggeration.
You're exaggerating or using selective memory. Old Sion was super predictable and only famous for his roams which only worked against garbage players. Once teamfights came around it was legit 4v5 and Sion's piroity targets could build banshee and render him even more useless. Did I mention he had no ulti?
Rioter Comments
: Time to make Udyr's phoenix viable
Time to make Tahm Kench a support again and perform a chemo on top lane by removing this cancer champ
: I just cant understand how its ok for pyke to have darius ults on steroids
Why does Tahm Kench have a Darius ulti from level 2 that is also a hard CC?

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