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skaels (NA)
: I'm in last place because I econ'd all the way through, I get my build going and then I'm placed against the #1 player three times in a row! Come on man
That is nothing xd I have got placed against #1 6 times in a row. I thought that 4 is max so that was a surprise xd
Nithke (EUW)
: Considering this game is partly RNG based it shouldn't be a problem
Well, it is. Consider it carefully. You have 80hp and build for late game. You get the most overpowered motherfucker there is 6 times in a row. You lose from 40 to 70 hp. You are fucked. The change that Riot can do here is a single line of coding.
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: Jungling is frustrating.
Crab is always running away and juking me. Raptors are gangbanging me from every side. Fucking Little Krugs take their time to spawn after killing the big one. This is making jungling inefficient. Also wtf is with this unbalanced rng. I get red side I win. I get blue side and I lose. They aren't the same. Red side of the map is vastly superior. Better clear from red. Better ganking paths. Safer. Easier to get objectives. Easier to set up crabs. When I get blue side I am fucking mad because of how hindered my pathing is from all that.
hoganftw (NA)
: If Riot can't balance TFT I don't see how they can balance League.
Yeah. I see it the same way. TFT is broken as fuck and has many bugs as well and League is the same but Riot just doesn't care. What, will you leave the game? No. There is no other option. There isn't a game that could be an alternative. We need to wait for somebody to make a better MOBA. Then Riot might do something. Or we will just play THAT moba.
: Shaco is in Dire Need of Bug Fixes and Changes
Yeah. Shaco needs changes. He is weak and inconsistant. The thing is that people are too good at this champion so we are making his winrate too high xd And we are this good because we never leave this champion. We stay with him even if he is in the shitter. We love him too much.
: > [{quoted}](name=Shiroyashayami,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lWgQML1T,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-26T20:16:28.909+0000) > > All your problems with jungle now are due to it being nerfed too hard. Don't you see it? Also Jungle is a carry role. Not a support role. There is literally one champion in jungle that has any skills that support people. Ivern. The rest exists to do damage. The game should be focused around jungle and laners should focus on helping the jungler because he is the one to take objectives. Faker knew that, that is why he is so fucking good. He always gives vision to his jungler and focuses around moving with or around his jungler. > > Now that jungle is weak as fuck you see one jungler outperform another by a mile just because his teammates are better. He is no longer an actor in this show, he is a side character that has to be supported to even work in this game. The team that supports its jungler better wins. > > I also would like S4 jungle to be back, because it was enjoyable. Now it is a fiesta. Raptors gangbang me, Krugs make kids and it takes too long to do them. I fucking hate current jungle. Also, you expect jungler to gank you, when his jungle is nerfed to the ground. Nice. Like, you cannot have it both ways. You cannot have jungle being weak and expect ganks. > > As for now, jungle has the lowest gold score and exp score in the game. They can be easily killed in their own jungle by any laner, because they are 2-3 levels ahead. If you think that is healthy then something is wrong with you. > > Also, since when was League oriented around skill? If you take a strong champion, you win. That is as simple as it can get. If you are a solo laner, which I was as well, then you should know that solo laners are just fucking drama queens. They think that they are some sort of stars and they play around themselves or go afk if they feed. They have worse mentality than junglers. > > Supports are formidable because they have to keep up with stupid marksmans. Adc are the dumbest people in the world. They have a role that works as their brains and they play one type of champions there and they still suck. Riot made it so easy for them and they still cannot do anything good with their hands. > > Junglers are getting flamed even if they do good. When I go in jungle I expect my whole team to be toxic towards me, even if I carry them. Most of the time when I go from red to blue its already 0/4, because they cannot wait for ganks. Laners suck a massive cock and I am in jungle, sitting and thinking what have I done wrong. What could I have done better. The answer is, play another role that isn't nerfed. > > You are complaining even tho your lane is working properly and isn't nerfed to the ground. Grow some fucking balls. Err if jungle was weaker still the 'carrier' jungle would have less impact still meaning each of the 3 laners would be more predisposed to win or lose based on their own skill and not a 3rd party. I'll take the weaker jungler option. Everytime. Ty. May the nerfs continue.
> Err if jungle was weaker still the 'carrier' jungle would have less impact still meaning each of the 3 laners would be more predisposed to win or lose based on their own skill and not a 3rd party. Skill, which they don't have. Just look at yourself. You are bronze and your peak was gold. Even my peak was higher and I am trash. If they fight based of how good they are they will probably always go 1for1 or one of them will feed his ass off. Laners focus on micro management, which means that they are bad at being leaders of teams. Which leaves only jungle and support as potential leaders. They need to be strong to help their useless teammates. I would actually want mid and top to get nerfed. Top a little bit more, because they have too many broken champions, that require 0 skill. Mid is similar, but their champions aren't overbuffed. The lane is just too strong overall. I would leave adc as it is so that adc can carry, while still being oneshotable.
: Screw you jungler whingers.
All your problems with jungle now are due to it being nerfed too hard. Don't you see it? Also Jungle is a carry role. Not a support role. There is literally one champion in jungle that has any skills that support people. Ivern. The rest exists to do damage. The game should be focused around jungle and laners should focus on helping the jungler because he is the one to take objectives. Faker knew that, that is why he is so fucking good. He always gives vision to his jungler and focuses around moving with or around his jungler. Now that jungle is weak as fuck you see one jungler outperform another by a mile just because his teammates are better. He is no longer an actor in this show, he is a side character that has to be supported to even work in this game. The team that supports its jungler better wins. I also would like S4 jungle to be back, because it was enjoyable. Now it is a fiesta. Raptors gangbang me, Krugs make kids and it takes too long to do them. I fucking hate current jungle. Also, you expect jungler to gank you, when his jungle is nerfed to the ground. Nice. Like, you cannot have it both ways. You cannot have jungle being weak and expect ganks. As for now, jungle has the lowest gold score and exp score in the game. They can be easily killed in their own jungle by any laner, because they are 2-3 levels ahead. If you think that is healthy then something is wrong with you. Also, since when was League oriented around skill? If you take a strong champion, you win. That is as simple as it can get. If you are a solo laner, which I was as well, then you should know that solo laners are just fucking drama queens. They think that they are some sort of stars and they play around themselves or go afk if they feed. They have worse mentality than junglers. Supports are formidable because they have to keep up with stupid marksmans. Adc are the dumbest people in the world. They have a role that works as their brains and they play one type of champions there and they still suck. Riot made it so easy for them and they still cannot do anything good with their hands. Junglers are getting flamed even if they do good. When I go in jungle I expect my whole team to be toxic towards me, even if I carry them. Most of the time when I go from red to blue its already 0/4, because they cannot wait for ganks. Laners suck a massive cock and I am in jungle, sitting and thinking what have I done wrong. What could I have done better. The answer is, play another role that isn't nerfed. You are complaining even tho your lane is working properly and isn't nerfed to the ground. Grow some fucking balls.
: Riot, that is illogical.
I guess there are a lot of stupid people that downvote a totally normal and logical idea to deliver a champion in the patch and not as an addition to a patch. Normally the meta would stabilize in 3 days. Now it will take longer because of 2 meta shifts in a row. This patch changes meta and then Qiyana's introduction changes it even more. It will be difficult to play ranked for at least 5 days. Enjoy seeing low quality games for a longer period of time than usual.
: Hell yeah Riot dont put a champ patch out with no champ, otherwise its not "Qiyana Patch" its "Patch that Qiyana will be coming out eventually in this patch" Promises werent met riot
For me its more about wasted time. After every patch the game becomes a wasteland for few days because meta shifts. Even a slight shift can be felt. With a champion comming later in the patch it will be 2 meta shifts in a row in one patch, which will be difficult to get used to.
Rioter Comments
: This is both wrong and easy to prove wrong. You can climb quite high with ANY pick, but at the higher elos you can't anymore. So especially in low elo, your pick does not matter at all.
In low elo I can agree. If you want to hit plat it depends on if your champion fits into meta and if you want to get higher .... well, you have to play meta. There is no other way around it. In previous seasons you could get higher if you were good enough but now the difference in damage output between meta and off-meta picks is too high. Apparently now in gold you have to tryhard, because the barrier is there now. Before the barrier was in plat. Previously I had to tryhard in plat, but in gold it was ez. Now its like ... weird. If I want to hit plat now I would have to tryhard to get through the barrier of this hellish elo, gold is now the worst rank to be in, everybody ints and goes afk. There is nothing in gold elo that depends on your playstyle. So you have to bring it a little bit closer to winning on your side by tryharding as a motherfucker and then the best would be for your champion to be at least tier 2. If its tier 3 then it will be even harder. But if you get to plat, then it should be ez from there. People get less mental.
: Oof on you. You are hardstuck silver. I don't care if you win with Shiv in silver. I can win there with Katarina jungle. I mean, in last season I had 70% winrate on Shaco jng in plat, but now I can't fucking play the game. This shitty ass game made jungle the worst role and the higher you get the more team based the game is. In gold the climb begins and there it stops. I can probably hit plat, but I was expecting much more this season. However playing with jungle nerfed to the ground is all team based. Then if enemy has a better pick they win because they get carried better than my champion can. They pick a Pig on a lady .... A lady on a pig xd And they win just because of how easy it is to play tanks in jng and get carried. The only thing I can do to change it and hit plat is to start playing Kha Zix because he would bring me more elo, but I refuse to play something I don't enjoy.
Actually I can win there with Anivia jungle. I had an account with 80% winrate in 22 matches on her xd Hardstuck silver account coz I trolled a lot. I don't have it anymore coz perma but it was fun. Good that I have 9 accounts. Or wait ... 1 ... 2 ... 3... 4 ..5 on eune and 2 on euw. Ok, I have 7 at the moment xd
Cevrad (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Shiroyashayami,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xNnmiJYy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-26T00:11:38.009+0000) > > Jungle is fucked so even if you are experienced it doesn't matter. A better pick wins. Not a better player. Weird I spam Shyvana alot and win alot of my games, must be the better pick as a champion who sees no high elo play, oof.
Oof on you. You are hardstuck silver. I don't care if you win with Shiv in silver. I can win there with Katarina jungle. I mean, in last season I had 70% winrate on Shaco jng in plat, but now I can't fucking play the game. This shitty ass game made jungle the worst role and the higher you get the more team based the game is. In gold the climb begins and there it stops. I can probably hit plat, but I was expecting much more this season. However playing with jungle nerfed to the ground is all team based. Then if enemy has a better pick they win because they get carried better than my champion can. They pick a Pig on a lady .... A lady on a pig xd And they win just because of how easy it is to play tanks in jng and get carried. The only thing I can do to change it and hit plat is to start playing Kha Zix because he would bring me more elo, but I refuse to play something I don't enjoy.
: Can we just get rid of Shen?
Shen is easy to counter. Just watch some vids.
: I mean. Its not needed so we can even remove it. It has no purpose in gameplay.
WTF. Watched the video. Yeah. Riot is officially shit for allowing that to happen.
: Remove anon pinging
I mean. Its not needed so we can even remove it. It has no purpose in gameplay.
stoyo8 (NA)
: being autofilled jungle is miserable
Jungle is fucked so even if you are experienced it doesn't matter. A better pick wins. Not a better player.
Rioter Comments
: Quitting ranked this season, matchmaking isn't working in my favour and feels rigged.
I wonder if Riot knows that people would play more games if the game was fun. It feels wrong playing this game. Like a waste of time.
: Fuck Jungle
Jungle should get buffed or changed but Riot is too shit to do it. The game is garbage because of that. Literally can't carry people when I start red go for blue and its already 0/4. Jungle feels worthless. Even with 20 kills its hard to carry. If I go 20 kills on mid I get a free game. Wtf is League of Legends 2019. Garbage. This game is totally garbage.
: what is wrong with the game ?
Riot is shit dude. It was like this for years. S5 is when something went horribly wrong.
: you're fucked, go play normals until the midseason patch.
I thought about this and about leaving the game for another months but I would really want to learn something about this meta. This meta seems really inconsistant for me and I want to learn something that would make it more consistant.
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1Nebula1 (NA)
: Well Guys, THEY ARE LISTENING!!!
They listen so much that Shaco have gotten a skin when we wanted him to be fixed :) He is in tier 5 and all his skills are useless and weird and buged. Duskblade literally does more dmg than all my skills combined. Its my best ability.
Rioter Comments
: Opinion: "fun to play against" is the most bullshit term to ever exist
"fair to play against" is the same but I can agree on "counterplay". But actually not many champions have counterplay now. They are specifically made to not have a counterplay, that is why they have so many dashes. Normally a champion with many dashes had a skillshot that they had to hit in order to kill like Ahri, but then it changed and we have Kayn and Irelia and Akali and other champions that cannot be countered. They can only be overpowered and focused. For me its fun to play against Zed, because if he ults me there is a minigame and I have to dodge his shurikens. With Ahri I have to dodge her charm. With Swain I have to dodge his pull. But with Kayn ... I have to kill him. There is on skillshot that he has and its too fast to dodge and too easy to hit. These champions are created to sit on top of you are not even give you a chance. And if you somehow outplay Kayn then he has his ult.
: Cool... then let's also make it so that projectiles pierce through minions.
Why not? If you cannot dodge something, you are just trash like me xd Actually most projectiles go through minions anyways. Like, some projectiles with cc don't go through, but they are minority. But I think it would make this game too skill based. However, minion block is a bad idea so if they think that it is necessary, then at least make it like minion block from S4. It was barely noticible. Now you can get stuck on thin air. 2 minions can gangbang you. The thing is minions block got worse over time and should at least be fixed.
: {{champion:29}} is literally 45% winrate jungler that gets fucked by everybody in this meta. Assassins counter him, tanks counter him, mages counter him. All you have to do is not lose composure and stay calm, then you will probably win vs him. Twitch without Lulu is only good at cheesy ganks and is not even good in late game, when he should be op. Then you have Twitch with Lulu, that is quite strong, but still can be beaten if he isn't good at micro management. I can win 60+% matches on Twitch in gold elo but it is hard in plat. I can do a lot more in plat with Shaco, who is garbage atm so I think that Twitch is even worse than garbage right now. Also in jungle if I take Hecarim, Vi or any meta champion I can play better than on my otp champion, Shaco. Fuck I hate Riot games. I tried so hard to learn those champions and they fucked both of them.
Also take Jax vs Twitch. Twitch loses EVERY fight vs Jax after lvl 2. He just cannot win. If Jax is top, then Twitch literally risks by ganking him because he can get destroyed if doesn't manage to perfectly keep distance and wait out Jaxes e or q. This match-up is fucking ridiculous.
: X champion doesn't belong in Y lane
{{champion:29}} is literally 45% winrate jungler that gets fucked by everybody in this meta. Assassins counter him, tanks counter him, mages counter him. All you have to do is not lose composure and stay calm, then you will probably win vs him. Twitch without Lulu is only good at cheesy ganks and is not even good in late game, when he should be op. Then you have Twitch with Lulu, that is quite strong, but still can be beaten if he isn't good at micro management. I can win 60+% matches on Twitch in gold elo but it is hard in plat. I can do a lot more in plat with Shaco, who is garbage atm so I think that Twitch is even worse than garbage right now. Also in jungle if I take Hecarim, Vi or any meta champion I can play better than on my otp champion, Shaco. Fuck I hate Riot games. I tried so hard to learn those champions and they fucked both of them.
verxion (NA)
: MATCH MAKING IS SO ABSURD!
The real enemy is autofill. You get 3 support mains on your team then you will 100% lose. You usually get adc main on mid lane, support main on adc, mid main on top lane, top laner in jungle and jungler on support and then try to fucking win. Even if you get your lane, your team is full of random people on autofilled positions. That is why matches are of low quality. Nobody knows what they are doing.
: > [{quoted}](name=Shiroyashayami,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TnEbRYjw,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-17T14:54:42.870+0000) > > Remove minion block please. Nobody has ever said "I am glad that those minions blocked me" xd No, but they have said, "I am glad that those minions blocked my opponent."
Yeah xd My words when that happens: "I missed all my abilities, I am so glad that those minions blocked my opponent" xd Yes, I am garbage xxd
: They steal my farm too : / bunch of little inting trolls if you ask me
They steal farm and don't even buy items ... fricking feckers xd
: i called a minion on bot laine jerry number one i always get sad when i see jerry number one die :/
I enjoy this mass genocide game sometimes xd I the bad guy in this story because when somebody else kills them I get violent. I wanted to kill them. That is some psycho mentality xd
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Shiroyashayami,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TnEbRYjw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-17T14:57:24.157+0000) > > They are like cats, just assholes. Oi, they die for our sins. Don't you dare compare them to those furballs. They are more like dogs. Always loyal, but they sometimes make you trip.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: Minions just don't want anyone to steal their glory.
Rioter Comments
: Hey, Riot, the fuck can I do to win games?
Anyways, I am out of this game. Don't know if will return. Probably yes. But I won't be playing for at least 2-3 patches.
Rioter Comments
: a lot did, this forum and the game had a lot of kayles going to jungle because they though that her laning in nonexistence and they would just perma farm until late game. qiyana might be like kayle, not in term of hard scaling but in term of simply not needing to hard win lane you can easily get some level and start roaming at some point, also 40% winrate for a new champ is perfectly fine in fact that should be the win rate of most new champ not like the new morde who is setting at some nonsense winrate atm. any way as i said, give her some time before jumping guns, i know you want her to be ap so badly but that should not make you judge everything about a champion in one day in pbe. she will need at least 1 week in live servers to show her true face. p.s : use spaces a few times please , its hard to read wall of tests. p.s 2 : she does hav ap ratio so gun blade wont be the worst item :P, oh and she is AD because we did not have an AD solo laner for a while.
We have 50 solo laners mid and 50 top. I don't think we need another one xd I use walls of texts because I became lazy. Every time I get downvoted and then it turns out that I was right so I really do not care. You are right that it is too soon to judge her but I can have my own opinion about her at least. My opinion is that atm she is better in jungle than in lane. In the future it might flip but I will play her in jungle and maybe even main her there. Obviously if I still remain a player of League (I am playing like 1 match a day, that is how much this season makes me want to die). It is just an opinion but I still don't know why people still refuse to see a valid point here. When you look at her kit, doesn't it scream "play me in jungle"? Those dashes and utility from elements are nice for ganks. Also, have you seen her clear? Its better than most tier 3 champions. With her gankability she should be at least tier 2. Also, really hard to lose 1v1 after you get duskblade. She gets strong after that item. Shit gets crazy. Damage output is like that of rengar. That is how fast you kill people on her with that item. Fun actually. Plus there is oversaturation on solo lanes, but in jungle people desperatelly search for new picks, because champion pool there is so boring. That is why she might get picked there.
: no you do need time to get where she is supposed to be in this game. a lot said kayle can only jungle and look at us now playing her only in top lane, feeling is not something to count on alone and we all should give her time to know her lane.
Who said that Kayle can only jungle? Her ganks are bad. She would never be a jungler. Qiyana is different, her kit is made for jungle, but she is suppoused to be a laner. I guess she can do both, but she is too weak for laning at the moment. She would need a hot fix or a buff later, because for now I see her only as a 40+% champ. Not as weak as Yuumi was when she came out, but Qiyana's early is just too weak for laning, her mid game too strong and late game also kinda falls off. For now that works well for jungle. While laning she should have lower winrate than 50%, around 40-41% - 43% max. In jungle that might be higher. However if she gets buffed she will probably be buffed for laning and then the story is different. If only she was AP, I would build Gunblade on her and she would be good in both laning and jungling at the same time, but for some reason she is AD xd
: shit in lane = cant really lane. besides she just got out and you already jumping the guns in a day of pbe.
Shit is lane doesn't mean that xd Crocodile doesn't mean an Aligator xd Fizz is shit in lane as well, but can oneshot anybody if hits ult, before that can be abused all the time, with poke from skills and aa. She is just the same. Can be easily abused in lane and won't be able to retaliate. Don't really need more time to say that. It is visible on first glance and you can feel it when you play her.
Velasan (NA)
: Hi! I am not for or against either side of this argument, however, I do jungle a lot! So, what I want to know are things like, what runes did you take and what was your build to make it work?
For now I tried electrocute, that thing with lethality, 2nd tier is whatever, then ravenous hunter, coz she needs sustain. Then 2nd rune choice is precision or sorcery, i took precision because I wanted more attack speed and damage, so that my clear is a little bit faster. Also, probably fleet footwork can work on her too, if u go bruser. I think she might be a good bruser if built correctly because her cooldowns are short. She is a flexible champion, so not only jng and mid, but also top and for her, but only if meta supports her in those lanes. For now she might not be viable on top, because she won't win with tanks, nor brusers, her early game is too trash. But after duskblade she can basically oneshot squishies.
: to quote a few posts you made in that thread: > [{quoted}](name=Shiroyashayami,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tiXPlh6z,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-10T03:03:20.829+0000) > > Have you seen her abilities? How is she good in lane? Her kit is garbage for laning but if we look at her in jungle then she might be viable. > [{quoted}](name=Shiroyashayami,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tiXPlh6z,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-10T02:56:21.183+0000) > > They might think that she is a laner, but .... have you seen her kit? Its a jungler and a good one. She will be fun to play there. If ad, with tiamat, if ap with a jungle item. I don't think her kit is even remotelly ok for laning. And it would be good to break a stereotype of arrogant ad assassins by having an arrogant ap assassin, but whatever. > [{quoted}](name=Shiroyashayami,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tiXPlh6z,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-10T02:53:22.577+0000) > > She is a jungler. That is why everybody thinks that she is a junger. She cannot be a laner without waveclear and sustain, just like you said. She has mobility, damage, ranged cc. She is perfect for jungle. Also her abilities are good for ganks and for clearing jungle camps but not for killing minions. You literally said yourself all the reasons why she cannot be a laner. Even if she is pushed to be a laner, she will end up in jungle. She is literally perfect for jungle and I already have an idea for a clear path for her. so yeah, no.... thats exactly what you tried to argue. the farthest you said to her sololaning would be riot pushing her toplane as you said.
I didn't say that she isn't a laner, I argue that she is shit in lane. Everybody can destroy her in early game. Then she buys a Duskblade like every ad assassin ever and becomes a champion. In jungle she should work, if not now, then in the future. Her kit is too good to not push her towards jungle. Also she would be nice on top lane, yes, but maybe after some time, because I don't know which rune would be the best and if this meta supports her in there. On mid she might have a hard time at the start, because she is too weak. There is no match-up that she is winning. Maybe after she buys duskblade she can handle mid, but before that her poke and resistances are too low.
: i checked the thread , you argued what is her main role and said she is shit in lane and will be jungler. theres a huge different between a jungler and a can jungle champion {{champion:517}} is a solo laner who can jungle *also he is what you want, an ap jungler. {{champion:141}} is a jungler , he might be in a solo lane once in a blue moon , but his main role is jungle what you argued there about her is if she is a jungler or solo laner , not if she is able to jungle or not.
She is shit in lane but I didn't say that she isn't a laner. Just that she is shit in lane and that is true. She can get clapped in early by ... anybody. And then she buys duskblade like any other ad assassin and can play the game. Because Duckblade is apprently a champion's best ability. She not only can jungle, but will jungle. If not now, then in the future. Her kit is just too good.
: She's not a good jungler. {{item:3077}} is a good jungler. Any melee can take it and clear.
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