: Wow. You EUNE players really are "special."
>wow. yikes. special. passive agressive comment. stay mad amerifat
: Unpopular Opinion: Support is fun
is this really an unpopular opinion? I'm pretty sure support is a more popular role than jungle and top rn above gold
: What is smurfing though? I played in OCE since season 5, was mid platinum for 4 seasons. Transfered to EUW, I got my MMR complete reset (elo is server specific), so I had to start Bronze 4 in EUW. I'm climbing at 60% winrate, I'm gold 3 atm and still climbing fast. Low elo is a pain to play. Games are not interesting because macro play is realy bad. People throw all the time. More AFK and int. Etc, etc. I wonder who would voluntarily "smurf", it's really annoying. I can't wait to be back at my MMR, but takes time, it's hard to have very high winrate in low elo. It's more ~60 for a plat player, you have to be consistent, not tilt, and adapt to troll teams. And be patient because it will take about 200 games.
>I played in OCE since season 5, was mid platinum for 4 seasons. >Transfered to EUW, I got my MMR complete reset (elo is server specific), so I had to start Bronze 4 in EUW. is this a recent change? I remember transferring once and got placed in p1
: They system would pick up that he isn't bronze elo before he even hits ranked, unless he a) bought the account or b) was throwing games and playing bad on purpose for the sole reason of being in bronze. People are getting this season's ranked confused, just because you get placed in iron or bronze doesn't mean your mmr is there, and vice-versa
your mmr is around gold after placements even with a 100% wr, low enough to stomp low elos.
Moody P (NA)
: I haven't had trouble just walking perpendicular or clockwise around her . Neither have people playing against me
so there's 4-6 tentacles around you swinging at you double the speed and you just walk around her dodging all of them ...? I'll believe it when I see it fam.
: Sorry the telegraphed tentacles are so hard to dodge for you. You could still literally just walk away and it's like Illaoi had no ult to begin with. Yikes.
same shit to you as moody but with the added hilarity that there's a silver player telling me to git gud lmao
Moody P (NA)
: just walk to the side
its like you don't know what illaoi ult does, her tentacles swing 50% faster after she ults, you ain't dodging shit unless you're a hecarim or got a fast blink spell.
SirEnds (NA)
: A Logical Summary On why Aatrox is Nearly Unplayable Post Patch 9.3
aatrox is still strong, thank god he can't be played top lane anymore though.
Moody P (NA)
: >""moody"" You called? Illaoi only needs (IMO) her ultimate to be very consistent and spawn the same amount of tentacles on cast. She's too heavily reliant on a hard to achieve best case scenario while simultaneously being easily denied her best case scenario even in the middle of her outplaying you. If it changed to like... 2/3/4 every time she remains a huge threat without needing such a pain in the ass condition to fulfill, she would be excellent.
>2/3/4 every time she remains a huge threat without needing such a pain in the ass condition to fulfill, she would be excellent. so basically after 16 she just kills everyone with 1 W with no condition?
: Fix the fucking client
had low priority queue for the first time in my life thanks to this shit and hot damn that's some quality aids right there
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: The game was 45 26 and there was no way not too die because if my team loses the teamfight I die after. That darius can ult last hit doesnt mean he played well. "you are playing a champion with amazing waveclear top and you bring up keeping your tower as doing well in lane? " Nunu waveclear isnt that good Darius has better infact, and i'm not shoving vs Darius as a tank unless he is out of lane or im making a big wave go too his tower instead of freeze. Keeping my tower isnt doing well in lane yes but losing 2 of your own straight away is bad and losing towers is snowballing the enemy team. I bring up keeping my towerr because you say i lost lane "hard" with no idea or comprehension of what happneded that match.
>The game was 45 26 and there was no way not too die because if my team loses the teamfight I die after. this is actually a valid point, even though it doesn't look like too many team fights actually happened that game. >Nunu waveclear isnt that good Darius has better infact I mean this depends on the skill order and build but I guess with you maxing w last it makes sense yes. >That darius can ult last hit doesnt mean he played well. >Edit: Now i remember the Darius was actually really bad. that's pretty rich considering his winning 90% of his darius games at your elo and 70% of all his games. >you say i lost lane "hard" with no idea or comprehension of what happneded that match. I see that udyr helped you out and got you an early kill which you proceeded to get out farmed for the entire game, died 1v1 and were down gold the entire game before any "snowballing" from his team could come in.
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: I was 1 kill down vs Darius because I lost 1 really close all in, i didnt lose top hard i was the only player who could keep their tower. Saying I lost lane "hard" without looking at the tower kills or champ means your dumb. Edit: Now i remember the Darius was actually really bad.
you were 5-7 to the dariuses 9-3 while he also did double your damage, saying that you lose because of "muh team" is complete bullshit here. you are playing a champion with amazing waveclear top and you bring up keeping your tower as doing well in lane? that's like saying anivia players are all gods because its virtually impossible to siege against.
: Show me where it says stormrazor is melting Rammus. Or do you have selective vision that only allows you to read every second word? Kindred S tier in which bracket of Iron?
"playing full tank rammus getting melted because of items like {{item:3095}}" don't know what else to say there love. >Kindred S tier in which bracket of Iron? ah now I know why you think shes underpowered though, she is actually statistically horrible in iron, bronze and silver while reaching broken status in competent elo, this only further goes to show that you're probably playing at the elo she isn't good at though.
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: Botlane is 4/17
looks like their top and mid carried that game not their bot lane, when you lose top that hard you probably deserve to lose the game as well buddy.
: Master yi every game with at least a third of the games having double digit deaths. Try to get better before acting cool again. Let the adults talk kid.
I mean clicking on your boards profile we can see you complaining about stormrazor melting rammus and claiming that kindred is "underpowered" when shes a S tier champion sitting on 54% wr, I think the guy has a point there.
: you have to worry about that if it was a yasuo in your team. {{sticker:sg-janna}}
there's clear counter play for that as well, its called dodging
: Damage is too high. Damage items are too strong.
you are getting melted because of stormrazor and duskblade as a rammus ...?
: Very simple Yasuo change to make him more balanced
>Could also put the crit passive on E so Level 1 Yasuo will be a little weaker. bitch yasuo doesn't have any crit at level 1 lmao
: Sylas should not be casting Swain's ult with maximum Soul Fragments for free
>Sylas makes far, far better use of Swain's ultimate than Swain so basically the same as ... I don't know malphite, amumu, ashe, miss fortune, lucian ... the list goes on forever. that's what the champion was meant for famalama.
Kat XD (NA)
: Aha! But you missed a key piece of information: "Can there be an incorrect **place** for something if there is no correct **place** for it?" The pizza example is based on time, temperature, and composition of the pizza, not just location. The home example is based on the concepts of property law, and personal ownership, not just location. When we isolate place as the only factor, can you still give a contradictory example? Edit: Also the post was removed because it wasn't in the correct board, but I wasn't made aware what the correct board might be, nor did I bother to ask.
there is no correct place for %%%%philia so would you say that there is no incorrect place for it either? ex in middle of a kindergarten class?
y0r1ck (NA)
: Yeah turns out he's good vs people who can't kite well, click accurately, draft well, and punish weak early games. Who knew?
oh look a low elo yorick main defending his broken ass champion lmao
Antenora (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=SociaI Justice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=19YAgMEW,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-22T11:51:09.734+0000) > > https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Yasuo/ADC/ > > I wasn't aware that if a champion has 50% wr in one role it means his balanced in every role. 1.47% pick rate. Now look at his mid stats.
when you actually use your other accounts trying to upvote your shit and then accidentally comment on one of them forgetting the usernames the same lmao
Anatera (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SociaI Justice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=19YAgMEW,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-22T11:51:09.734+0000) > > https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Yasuo/ADC/ > > I wasn't aware that if a champion has 50% wr in one role it means his balanced in every role. I wasn't aware picking obscure arguments, while making no effort to provide the necessary information to define that obscurity, is what constitutes evidence these days. Truly your efforts to mix in with the cool kids is working. Keep it up. I'm sure, one day, you'll find someone who thinks such asinine behavior makes you a true renaissance man. Might take a thousand years, but it's still one day, right? Oh whatever, according to the website you linked, you think 53% and 55% are also the same thing as 50%. It must be nice to be able to confuse ignorance with insight.
yikes dude calm down
Anatera (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=SociaI Justice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=19YAgMEW,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-02-22T10:35:44.833+0000) > > 55% win rate isn't statistically broken ...? omegafuckinglul https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/overview/yasuo I wasn't aware 50% was the same thing as 55%. Amazing.
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Yasuo/ADC/ I wasn't aware that if a champion has 50% wr in one role it means his balanced in every role.
Anatera (NA)
: Statistically, he's not OP. Of course, statistics means absolutely nothing when you're in the game and have to deal with his overblown kit. People ban him because he's an irritating chore to play against. Of course, Riot doesn't really care about that because they've become so disillusioned with the idea of FUN, that they'd rather pour over data and statistics, instead of asking how it feels to actually PLAY against him. They're not developers anymore, they're accountants. Keep giving me downvotes yasuo mains. It doesn't come across as embarrassingly desperate or anything.
55% win rate isn't statistically broken ...? omegafuckinglul
: Hey you know what, Kayle dealing true damage at level 16 is okay
her early game can't be bad as an immobile champion with no cc and mobility, well it can be like nasus level bad where she just kills everyone at level 6 but it can't actually be weak or she will just int every game unless played in the jungle.
BigFBear (EUW)
: Why do you think Voli is predestined for counterganking (more than others)? And why you think Hydra is horrible for him? I don't want to contradict, I am just curious.
>Why do you think Voli is predestined for counterganking (more than others)? i mean for low elo you just walk up behind people and they die but around high plat low dia is where that strategy starts to fail, when i tried to get dia with voli that's around where i got stuck (to be fair this was pre mini rework so voli was quite a bit worse) and had to change my playstyle to mostly counter ganking / bush camping for the enemy jungler to get past. of course this probably isn't the only way to do it but its what worked for me. >And why you think Hydra is horrible for him? voli is an early / mid game champion and hydra is quite bad at both early and mid game while being expensive as fuck to buy, also around the time you'd complete hydra you're deleting everything anyways so the extra damage doesn't really do that much for you. in theory it would be good late game but at that point you're pretty much just a peel bot for your adc anyways unless you have flash up.
Kàzzy (NA)
: give your design team a raise riot
a demon turned into *rawr* I'll drain your energy summoner :3, I don't know about you but this shits just gay. _ban me pussi_
BigFBear (EUW)
: Yeah I know him. I watch his replays regularly :D But I think this lllllllllllllllllll dude from EUW ist also good. He isn't Grandmaster but keep in mind that EUW is harder than US. Yeah with Warmogs second was just a test. Mostly you haven't even the 3k HP already. Also I don't know where Lolalytics took this data from because don't know any Master Volis who build it second. But as 3rd or 4th item it's pretty nice. I didn't build it much, either. But some weeks ago I found out that I climbed pretty well with it. The other thing is, when I build DMP instead of Righteous Glory i miss this awesome gap closer where u can decide games in endgame. But i can understand why LtWazer doesn't build it. I guess in high Elo it isn't THAT good anymore because people can outplay it better. Also if you don't play with Aftershock you need more Armor and RG has just 30. But therefore LtWazer makes his plays with HexFlash. But before i try that I want to get Dia and than i will practice it. Until there RG is good enough for me. But one thing I don't understand. He builds {{item:1039}} first, even when he starts blue. That makes no sense. @ Tiamat. Yeah this is a thing I don't understand. Titanic Hydra has pretty decent stats on Voli but the higher you go in Elo, the less they build it. And no one of the top Volis (in jungle) build Titanic Hydra EVER. Building Tiamat and Hydra seems to be just a low Elo thing but I don't know why. It always bothered me.
I mean the item build thing on lolalytics is bugged, at least I'm pretty sure it is from what I've seen. I mean going righteous second is probably still good, sirberlinstyle or now sirnordseestyle still does his weird shenanigans with it and his probably still considered the best voli world despite some new people showing up. I'm pretty sure titanic hydra is fucking horrible on voli but tiamat in it self doesn't seem too bad especially when there isn't much to gank, of course voli is all about counter ganks anyways but in certain matchups its still a decent choice for the early game.
: PSA : Future's Market drains 100g instead of 50g.
you gain more gold by just taking biscuits and selling em anyways
BigFBear (EUW)
: idk... i dont think there is anyone out there who know more about Voli builds than me, because i spend at least 10 hours per week on Lolalytics checking Item- and Rune-stats from Voli in all Elos and Patches. I follow best Volis world and check their playstyle and builds. if you talking about that Warmogs as second item: I tried this out today. Actually Warmogs winrate get better and it get picked more often the higher you go in Elo. Normally I build this as third item, but I have seen that some Master Volis build this as second item, so I wanted to check it out. https://abload.de/img/lolv7kjt.png --- I think best build for Voli is... starting with this: {{item:1401}} {{item:3800}} or this {{item:1401}} {{item:3742}} and then follow up with something from these: {{item:3083}} {{item:3053}} {{item:3065}} if you are way ahead or just want damage, you can add one of these: {{item:3078}} {{item:3161}} {{item:3748}} and for special situations like high auto AD or specific champs in enemy team or if u just wanna support a fed teammate: {{item:3075}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3194}} {{item:3109}} https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/current/diamond/plus/champion/Volibear/Jungle/
ltwazer is a good voli main to copy for shit, i have also pretty much always gone for the {{item:1401}} {{item:3742}} {{item:3111}} {{item:3053}} unless they have strong ap. warmogs second is usually horrible despite the stats being good, it offers shit all for utility and you won't have the passive straight away either. going tiamat first isn't bad either if there aren't a lot of people on the enemy team able to burst you.
: I'd argue that actually means the {{champion:58}} isn't competent. Only the first push or two are rough; finish one major armor item and use an empowered stun on {{champion:126}} and that should be a kill, a force-out at minimum.
jayce has a 57% wr into rene at plat+ in dia+ its 60%, its very difficult to lose to a rene as a competent jayce.
: I think {{champion:58}} strongly deserved reclassification as a juggernaut - he very shortly becomes tankier and more lethal up-close than nearly the entire lane - and {{champion:420}} {{champion:6}} both have gap closers, Disdain and Harsh Lesson are both gap closers. I play a fair bit of {{champion:126}} and he struggles if jumped on and stunned. It's generally a kill against him if his knockback in melee form is down, in fact.
i mean that might be how the matchup works in low elo but anywhere near competent jayce absolutely destroys renekton
BigFBear (EUW)
: Another "Matchmaking is completely broken"-Thread
brudda das not hue u build mollybear
: Let's talk about "Forced 50% Winrate"
oh its this thread again lmao
: Depends on the melee. {{champion:126}} can really struggle against juggernauts with gap closers, particularly {{champion:58}}. He's never been a safe pair of hands on the blind and this probably won't change that.
>juggernauts with gap closers the what now, the only juggernaut with a "gap closer" is illaoi who jayce does kind of struggle against but not because of the gap closer. on the other hand he absolutely destroys renekton who is a bruiser.
: > [{quoted}](name=SociaI Justice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZJqYZ24I,comment-id=00000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-10T19:05:02.397+0000) > > wait this would nerf 3 of the oppressive cancer top laners? how is that a bad thing? It wouldn't just nerf Urgot, it would literally _gut_ him. Gnar would be left quite wanting, and Jayce would survive. Still, just because something is op does not mean it should be nerfed into the ground, it should be nerfed until it's balanced.
nah ranged tops should be removed from the game.
: Idk why riot doesn't just increase the amount of time camps take to do and increase the amount of xp they give like that would solve basically every problem compared to nerfing the xp. I also don't know why they changed jungle in season 7 like plants are cool but the rest was just bad and who was comparing about jungle back then and the amount of people complaining had just gone way up since then and yeah it is also fucking boring like most junglers take very little damage and have ok clear speeds.
>dk why riot doesn't just increase the amount of time camps take to do and increase the amount of xp they give like that would solve basically every problem compared to nerfing the xp. this would further favor fast clearing junglers, lets say it takes 2 seconds for graves to clear a camp while it takes seju 5 seconds, now if camps took 5x longer to clear graves would have to only spend 10 seconds clearing the camp compared to sejus 25.
: > [{quoted}](name=Saevum,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZJqYZ24I,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-02-10T12:58:41.855+0000) > > BC needs to be melee only, so then, they can buff it back. Otherwise, we are stuck with current BC buildpath and gutted Armor shred passive. The problem is that {{champion:6}} would be left without a core item for him. Black Cleaver is his core item and he can't use Trinity Force well. This would be a massive nerf to Urgot, and he is already hurt by the fact that he can't build {{item:3053}} {{champion:150}} would also be forced into building Trinity Force, since he currently builds The Black Cleaver most of time and he would be left with no other good options (although I am not really sure why Triforce Gnar isn't a thing already). {{champion:126}} would also be affected, but not nearly as much, since he can use other items just as well and he has many other options for cooldown reduction.
wait this would nerf 3 of the oppressive cancer top laners? how is that a bad thing?
xAcidik (NA)
: Balancing Around Pro Play Sucks For Us
i mean the answer here really is just to git gud, the champions aren't bad you're just too bad to play them.
: And now realize PTA exists. ^^ There might be some rangeds able to use it - but even stuff like {{champion:236}} who'd get it stacked fast should be better of with PTA. The scariest user I can think of right now would be {{champion:69}}
{{champion:126}} welcome back to top lane being unplayable by melees
: > [{quoted}](name=Glacier Gang 050,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=INBitApT,comment-id=0002000100010000,timestamp=2019-02-06T21:48:26.316+0000) > > Again, he never mentioned that the counter ganking is always possible. He claimed that knowing how to and when to counter gank is what makes you a high elo player. And that is true. In your particular situation, i saw you're low dia at the moment ( good job btw, no flaming intended ) people hardly use their brain enough for the game. That's what makes them hardstuck dia rather than a progressive dia/master player. You don't necessarily have to start on red or blue depending on the side cause you have your botlane to help you. Seeing if your bot hitting level 2 before enemy bot is more beneficial is better to keep in mind. Next up, your laners should understand the power of every jungler that they encounter. If you have an elise jungle and they have Camille, you obviously won't push the lane cause Camille will lvl 2 gank you and your elise can't react on that. There's a BUNCH of things to look for and about and while progressively climbing up the ladder you'll get better and smarter players. There's a bunch of other things about jungling and tips for it I'd gladly give you but these are the most common ones for the elo you are in. These few tips aren't my words, i used to be a semi pro player ( not so under lights of cameras i guess ) and when it comes to strategy, these are the tips my coach gave my jungler back in season 7. It's all about cooperation between you and your teammates. Yeah, it's a stupid soloQ, you'll get morons that'll lose you a game, i know, but you can't do much there except learning about jungling more. The game's lost for sure? Fuck it! Go and examine how jungling works, time for camps clearing with a certain champion, make your own pathing with each champion you play in the jungle. It's a very fun and one of the hardest roles to play in the game, quote me on that one, but its very challenging and if you have enough patience, you can get very high up the ladder. One of the best players on soloQ on most regions that are in top 10 of their region are junglers! I actually been mid d3 about 4 times this season lol, I won't hold my ego, but with all the masters climbing in D after placements, I've been meeting my matches quite frequently. (doesn't help in high mmr, idk if you're experiencing this or not but there's a lot of "don't care" attitude players due to positional matchmaking in my games it seems, even had 3 disco nunus this season) My biggest issues don't so much stem from jungler intuition, as much as me dying mid-late game too much, not closing out leads (would you believe me if in 80% of my losses my KDA and KP was really good before the 20 minute marks?, even in that siv game I mentioned, I was 6/2/6 at 11 minutes but ended the game with a win at 8/10/10, yikes), and overall tilting off the face of the earth, usually I lose the tilt at the start of the next game all chatting random stuff to lighten the mood, but moment something goes wrong oof i need therapy. I've been coached before, and was actually scheduling for another session soon to kinda recap (since that was almost a year ago and right now I feel like I reverted my brain to the same mistakes that I fixed before.) I'm just saying all of this cause I do value your input, wouldn't mind more suggestions if you've seen this kind of player pattern before. One thing that holds players back is its harder to be self aware of mistakes, I'm actually coaching players between iron-plat myself but what I say is valuable to those ratings, what goes on with me and my mmr is my problem which I why ironically, as a coach i need a bigger coach and don't really help out my own rating since it'd be hypocritical lol. Its also easier for me to see the other player's mistakes, point them out, even seeing the missed farm opportunities and strategizing, but in real time its harder for me to react myself even if I have the knowledge to respond to that kind of stuff, so it valuable to me to hear from a third person's perspective what I'm blind to. _____ But regarding the topic itself; The person's comment was this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389945345594884098/542831785843621928/unknown.png > Again, he never mentioned that the counter ganking is always possible. He claimed that knowing how to and when to counter gank is what makes you a high elo player. And that is true. The question was "why was he being downvoted" when that particular comment didn't elaborate. It didn't go into detail "when necessary", so it can only be assumed as "junglers are obligated to counter gank" or "junglers should counter gank the level 2 gank" given the thread topic. The second comment which elaborated more is fine however, but that was after your defense, and while they got downvotes on the more proper comment, there's still issues outside of the jungler's control, yes counter ganking and tracking is indeed a skill junglers have to learn, but the impression I got is "its always better jg wins" from that comment, which can be true, but if laners do do dumb things and you put too much trust into them to go for other plays instead across the map, that isn't entirely on the jg difference, but he's not wrong really when it comes to the importance of counter ganks.
>It didn't go into detail "when necessary", so it can only be assumed as "junglers are obligated to counter gank" or "junglers should counter gank the level 2 gank" given the thread topic. this is a QQ thread made by someone who lost a game to their laners winning and them having no idea what to do with it, don't let the wording confuse you. my comment was merely there to let the OP and other aspiring junglers (aka the people browsing this thread) know that "this is how you git gud" rather than "your team is perfect and never makes mistakes" which is what a lot of people seemed to take it as. >the impression I got is "its always better jg wins" well not always but the mass majority of the time yes, especially if the jungler actually communicates with his team, its actually a lot easier for a jungler to know what the enemy jungler is up to and let your laners know and how to properly deal with it, of course there are people that don't listen to anything you say but that's generally a minority.
: I hope someone gives you the hug you need soon <3
dw babe you can be the little spoon, i'm sure you'll need it once reality catches up to you.
: You got down voted because you worded it like a prick and in the context of this thread you are wrong. Counter ganking doesn't always work
dunno how else to word that, should i add 5 thank yous pleases and apologies to it? > in the context of this thread you are wrong. no >Counter ganking doesn't always work true
HàrrowR (EUW)
: ***
there's a class to specifically counter adcs called assassins, how dare they counter us and imply that I might have to adapt to not playing the same thing every game. you know kind of like hyper carries effectively remove juggernauts from the game, its fine when adcs are doing it but if our damage 1v5 bois are getting killed by their counters its a horrible horrible thing.
: Dunno why people downvoted you but this is quite true. I've been into jungling lately on this account, since the ranking system and matchmaking is fucking dumb right now so I don't wanna put my main at risk, but I was d2 in last season support main and GOD DAMN when I got a master tier kha zix dudes been fucking everyone up with counterganks wherever he moves. Picking Zac or Kha Zix every game and completely ruining the very existence of the enemy jungler was so fun to watch. If you know the enemy jungler's pathing, you can not only counter jungle, but if you're not on the same side of the map or not gonna make it in time, pinging your laner to back off will grant you and him a very good time with no gray screen in sight
people are downvoting me because they don't want to accept their fault and rather just be "this dudes pushing all game with no wards and just keeps dying to ganks over and over" rather than viewing it as an opportunity of "this guy is so easy to gank for the enemy jungler but our 2v2 is stronger so its a free double every time that i show up". also doesn't fit the "omegalul the noobz are blaming the jungler" meme. i was one of these guys when i started jungling, i was blaming my team for pushing and not warding and having no idea what to do when my lanes were winning 1v1s and shoving + dying to ganks. learning the enemy junglers pathing and the ability to view the game through his eyes was what pushed my jungling to dia and also helped me with my other roles.
: PSA: SOME JUNGLERS CANT GANK AS WELL AT LEVEL 2.
PSA; understanding counter ganks is what gets you to dia+ as a jungler
: Cancel your Q animation with either your E or your W so he can't react to the first hit. He will then press E, so use the second Q hit on a minion (just to get some shield and avoid losing out on the third hit). Eat the stun, he's not gonna be able to kill you if you have ur W ticking or you E'd right before it. Stun wears off third Q him and you win. Consider taking grasp as mentioned by someone else above
its funny seeing a bronze morde main giving tips to a d1 morde main lol, not that you're wrong about a lot but the jax won't stick around for you to proc your w or your 3rd Q after his stun in competent elo.
Shaydrox (EUW)
: Does anyone feel Swain is weak?
: Again, I was at D4 with some LP last season and my personal ladder showed me at less than 0,9%. I'm not trying to scratch some numbers so not sure what your point is. Less than 1% difference doesn't change the relative position with the rest of the ladder. Even top 5% is higher than 95% of the players and in any measurement type, and the only thing I mentioned is that it's kinda inaccurate to call 1-2% "low". If you're taller than 95% of the population, you're not short. I literally don't care if it's 1% or 2%. Calm down bro lol = )
>Calm down bro, look at how chill i am rn lmao i literally don't care at all about anything, bro 100 people is the same as 300 it makes no difference bro. did i tell you that you're low elo trash and how i don't care about this at all bro. yeah buddy you might even believe yourself eventually.
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