: Please Bring back Tribunal
Dat specialists always but ALWAYS backing up riot like they are paid or like riot is a devine being...... Only opinions instead of actuall work on how to deal with inters and raise the chances of banning one without making mistakes
: It isn't even standing up for Riot. It is just statistics. For verbal cases, the IFS is based off data from the Tribunal. So is likely to judge in a similar manner, but at a quicker rate. Meaning what used to take months to get a punishment out, takes a fraction of the time. For gameplay cases, the player base can't even come to a consensus on what is trolling outside of max deaths possible in 10 minutes.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HcocKwIB,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T21:48:10.151+0000) > > It isn't even standing up for Riot. It is just statistics. > > For verbal cases, the IFS is based off data from the Tribunal. So is likely to judge in a similar manner, but at a quicker rate. Meaning what used to take months to get a punishment out, takes a fraction of the time. > > For gameplay cases, the player base can't even come to a consensus on what is trolling outside of max deaths possible in 10 minutes. Unfortunately you are right...
: > **this is just my opinion**, but when tribunal was removed there was a spike in the amount of toxic players in the league community. The OP noted that the spike of toxicity was their opinion. So, unless you have some substantial evidence that suggests that there was a legitimate spike of toxicity after the Tribunal was shut down, then I don't see any reason to consider it more than what it's explained as; an opinion.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HcocKwIB,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-12-05T20:48:07.858+0000) > > The OP noted that the spike of toxicity was their opinion. So, unless you have some substantial evidence that suggests that there was a legitimate spike of toxicity after the Tribunal was shut down, then I don't see any reason to consider it more than what it's explained as; an opinion. Also since instant feedback reports cant be validated cause its bad to know is gets chat banned its also an opinion that the ifs actually is efficient....
: One of the biggest issues with the idea of bringing back the Tribunal to deal with trolls and intentional feeders is that players are sorely unreliable at discerning legitimate trolling/intentional feeding; people will eagerly vilify someone for simply underperforming, since they'd rather push blame on someone "intentionally" ruining their game rather than face the possibility that they might have been a factor in their own loss. To that end... > ...its rare to go more than 2 games without having these type of individuals in a game. I really doubt that you're dealing with trolls or intentional feeders nearly every other game. It's extremely unlikely that you'd legitimately run into trolls and the like _so_ frequently, and even if it were the case, one would think you would take a break and wait for another time to play. > How is "this" so called algorithm more efficient than tribunal? Well, let's start with the obvious. The Tribunal required players to function, and not many people actively cared to weigh in on Tribunal cases. Whereas the IFS doesn't need people to review and deliberate and vote on people's behavior - it just receives a report, reviews the behavior, and punishes accordingly. On top of that, not needing people to review the behavior means that the IFS is infinitely faster than the Tribunal could've ever hoped to be. The Tribunal was slow as all unholy hell (not helped in the least by the low player participation) and built up a massive backlog. The IFS works through far, far more cases than the Tribunal did and in much less time. And the Tribunal at one point had to be incentivized through Influence Point rewards for reaching a majority vote - and that panned out terribly, with people simply mass-voting to punish for the IP gains. The IFS avoids that inaccuracy and the need to be incentivized, because it's programmed to just work. > Should tribunal make a comeback? Frankly, no. The Tribunal was iceboxed for a reason, and it's an outdated, inefficient system. And in regards to trolling and intentionally feeding cases, I would much prefer an automated system that errs on the side of caution than a system that allows players to decide whether or not something is trolling/feeding. The system we have right now could certainly be much better at detecting trolling and intentionally feeding, but it's certainly better than what we'd have if we let players decide.
> [{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=HcocKwIB,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-05T20:20:36.419+0000) > > One of the biggest issues with the idea of bringing back the Tribunal to deal with trolls and intentional feeders is that players are sorely unreliable at discerning legitimate trolling/intentional feeding; people will eagerly vilify someone for simply underperforming, since they'd rather push blame on someone "intentionally" ruining their game rather than face the possibility that they might have been a factor in their own loss. > > To that end... > > I really doubt that you're dealing with trolls or intentional feeders nearly every other game. It's extremely unlikely that you'd legitimately run into trolls and the like _so_ frequently, and even if it were the case, one would think you would take a break and wait for another time to play. > > Well, let's start with the obvious. The Tribunal required players to function, and not many people actively cared to weigh in on Tribunal cases. Whereas the IFS doesn't need people to review and deliberate and vote on people's behavior - it just receives a report, reviews the behavior, and punishes accordingly. > > On top of that, not needing people to review the behavior means that the IFS is infinitely faster than the Tribunal could've ever hoped to be. The Tribunal was slow as all unholy hell (not helped in the least by the low player participation) and built up a massive backlog. The IFS works through far, far more cases than the Tribunal did and in much less time. > > And the Tribunal at one point had to be incentivized through Influence Point rewards for reaching a majority vote - and that panned out terribly, with people simply mass-voting to punish for the IP gains. The IFS avoids that inaccuracy and the need to be incentivized, because it's programmed to just work. > > Frankly, no. The Tribunal was iceboxed for a reason, and it's an outdated, inefficient system. And in regards to trolling and intentionally feeding cases, I would much prefer an automated system that errs on the side of caution than a system that allows players to decide whether or not something is trolling/feeding. > > The system we have right now could certainly be much better at detecting trolling and intentionally feeding, but it's certainly better than what we'd have if we let players decide. So the spike of flame just right after the tribunal is a coincidence i guess....
: > [{quoted}](name=ThyDelutionist,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QMdW2H3E,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T07:46:02.225+0000) > > If you have a percentage of the trollers banned your opinion would be useful ... Otherwise it isnt... My statement was about proving your claim to be false. No more, no less.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QMdW2H3E,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T14:47:43.730+0000) > > My statement was about proving your claim to be false. No more, no less. Its always about the percentage man...All things in life
Kei143 (NA)
: AFAIK, cursing family is not part of the ZT phrases, but it is part of the ML algorithm. Meaning it's not an Instagram action, but continued use of it will get people punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OV7GRW9d,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-12-04T10:59:36.171+0000) > > AFAIK, cursing family is not part of the ZT phrases, but it is part of the ML algorithm. > > Meaning it's not an Instagram action, but continued use of it will get people punished. Wow so wishing dead family members is ok ..... My god my eyes burn.. Well ty kei
: > Or maybe flaming families is ok? I was questioning your reaction and instead of considering your 50% of the whole deal you just blatantly flaunt more of that acute reaction around like you don't even care lol. Idk why I even bother.
> [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OV7GRW9d,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T09:46:21.150+0000) > > I was questioning your reaction and instead of considering your 50% of the whole deal you just blatantly flaunt more of that acute reaction around like you don't even care lol. Idk why I even bother. And i ask again.... Thats a yes? or no? That was the question
rujitra (NA)
: Based on your chat, it seems highly doubtful they were "try to steal my jungle since minute one". >Or what i can do when there is a jax i try to help him he dosent attack he just walk next to me and the moment the enemy is 10 hp he attack after i die So... he isn't obligated to go in just because you want him to. You don't get to boss your team around. Maybe if you used chat to **talk to** your team instead of simply using it to berate them you'd actually be able to discuss. **He doesn't have to go in just because you do**. Period. You dying to an enemy is **your fault** - not your teammates. So stop blaming them for your mistake.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=FoUloQ9r,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-04T03:22:48.364+0000) > > Based on your chat, it seems highly doubtful they were "try to steal my jungle since minute one". > > So... he isn't obligated to go in just because you want him to. You don't get to boss your team around. Maybe if you used chat to **talk to** your team instead of simply using it to berate them you'd actually be able to discuss. > > **He doesn't have to go in just because you do**. Period. You dying to an enemy is **your fault** - not your teammates. So stop blaming them for your mistake. So why do you get to judge everyone else? Since you didnt actually see the game....How do you know that us marine is wrong?
: What's with those acute responses on your side though? Are you sick or something?
> [{quoted}](name=Ashe mage AD,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OV7GRW9d,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-04T08:59:05.101+0000) > > What's with those acute responses on your side though? Are you sick or something? So thats a yes? Or maybe flaming families is ok?
Rioter Comments
: Chat restricted
Man what u did its negative behaviour.... It isnt verbal... If you dont want to get banned u shouldnt use the chat more than 10 sentences... Trust me this will work
Arammus (EUW)
: well there is a rulebook. and i will say its not the most useful thing. it says for example "be respectful, dont harass or insult other players". which isnt THAT useful considering in 2019 ppl see it as harassement if you say stuff like "you should go xy" still it is what you are asking for. and i dont think you need a rulebook to know that counter-flaming is a bad thingy
> [{quoted}](name=Arammus,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xeLmEr4a,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-12-04T01:18:10.171+0000) > > well there is a rulebook. > and i will say its not the most useful thing. it says for example "be respectful, dont harass or insult other players". > which isnt THAT useful considering in 2019 ppl see it as harassement if you say stuff like "you should go xy" > still it is what you are asking for. > > and i dont think you need a rulebook to know that counter-flaming is a bad thingy no there isnt a rule book... its a program that noone knows its exact mathematical parameters.....
: > [{quoted}](name=ThyDelutionist,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QMdW2H3E,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-11-30T13:12:11.476+0000) > > That doesnt prove that trollers get banned.. That means 1 troller got banned... That doesn't prove that **ALL** people who troll get banned. But I never made such a claim. But it does prove that trolls are banned.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QMdW2H3E,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-11-30T16:19:22.065+0000) > > That doesn't prove that **ALL** people who troll get banned. But I never made such a claim. > > But it does prove that trolls are banned. If you have a percentage of the trollers banned your opinion would be useful ... Otherwise it isnt...
Kei143 (NA)
: Maybe it's not as extreme as he says? Maybe he reported him in the wrong category? Maybe he didn't report when the extreme toxicity was used (game1), but only reported him in the 3rd game where non-extreme toxicity was used?
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8HPoc436,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-30T13:36:17.181+0000) > > Maybe it's not as extreme as he says? > > Maybe he reported him in the wrong category? > > Maybe he didn't report when the extreme toxicity was used (game1), but only reported him in the 3rd game where non-extreme toxicity was used? Maybe rito isnt doing their job as they should? You left this
: Talks about Riot intentioanlly withholding information. Does not provide the full information about his ban himself. Listen, as long as you refuse to provide us with all the information you received from Riot (exact ban reason, cahtlogs etc...) we will assume your ban is correct.
> [{quoted}](name=hshtagniemehrcdu,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=344QwhFV,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-11-29T10:34:11.627+0000) > > Talks about Riot intentioanlly withholding information. > > Does not provide the full information about his ban himself. > > Listen, as long as you refuse to provide us with all the information you received from Riot (exact ban reason, cahtlogs etc...) we will assume your ban is correct. Hahhahahahahahahah like a lawyer... 100% of ppl are innocent until proven quilty..... But in real life u have to prove your innocence too
IØIØI (NA)
: So apparently calling people "boomer" is toxic?
When riot starts perma ban accs after these logs the community will get better
: You aren't the only one who feels that way, but you also should realize that since you got punished; others do as well. You aren't promised an instant feedback report jist because you reported someone. So just because you don't get a message saying Jimbob was punished, doesn't mean Jimbob wasn't punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Imperial Pandaa,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Eceen6oz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-30T11:29:19.447+0000) > > You aren't the only one who feels that way, but you also should realize that since you got punished; others do as well. > > You aren't promised an instant feedback report jist because you reported someone. So just because you don't get a message saying Jimbob was punished, doesn't mean Jimbob wasn't punished. Also Feedbacks say that someone got banned... It doesnt prove that your report did something to ban someone... And since u have no way of proving that they work (since riot says its bad to know who gets chat banned ) its all kinda pointless
Kei143 (NA)
: The dude could have been chat restricted and still be playing.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=8HPoc436,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-30T12:45:31.606+0000) > > The dude could have been chat restricted and still be playing. tHE POINT OF EXTREME VERBAL ABUSE ISNT TO GET JUST 10 GAMES OF CHAT B AN MAN
Wolity (EUW)
: You blaming your swain support that was better than you on statistics. I checked the op gg . He had more exp , almost same gold and on top of that he was way more useful to the team than you. + you had almost the same deaths as he did. Just stop blaming others and focus on your mistakes thats how you gonna improve
> [{quoted}](name=Wolity,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QMdW2H3E,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-11-23T20:39:00.157+0000) > > You blaming your swain support that was better than you on statistics. I checked the op gg . He had more exp , almost same gold and on top of that he was way more useful to the team than you. + you had almost the same deaths as he did. Just stop blaming others and focus on your mistakes thats how you gonna improve So trolling is ok?
: > Since trolling doesnt get you banned ofc.. [There's a recent thread where the OP was banned for intentionally feeding.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/2Xkw0yE4-first-ban-and-14-days) You were even commenting in it so you can't pretend to have missed it.
> [{quoted}](name=AeroWaffle,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QMdW2H3E,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-11-23T17:22:11.795+0000) > > [There's a recent thread where the OP was banned for intentionally feeding.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/2Xkw0yE4-first-ban-and-14-days) > > You were even commenting in it so you can't pretend to have missed it. That doesnt prove that trollers get banned.. That means 1 troller got banned...
: Ah, yes, the flawless logic: "Someone trolled in a game so trolls must *never* get punished!"
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=QMdW2H3E,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-23T16:33:53.079+0000) > > Ah, yes, the flawless logic: "Someone trolled in a game so trolls must *never* get punished!" So when someone trolls and get away with it in Your game not the others u are ok? And dont start with the chances of trolling in your team... Its not accurate
Rioter Comments
rujitra (NA)
: The point is that “I want it” can’t be your justification because I can turn around and use the same justification for bans being allowed.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2Xkw0yE4,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-22T15:37:39.433+0000) > > The point is that “I want it” can’t be your justification because I can turn around and use the same justification for bans being allowed. So why should they win again? Because they are 4?
: UHunter and the cloud dragon buff do stack, but they do so multiplicatively. The max CDR for ultimates is 75.25%, obtained through 40% CDR, Cosmic Insight, UHunter, and 4 cloud dragon buffs.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BJNivlEl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-22T13:31:36.366+0000) > > UHunter and the cloud dragon buff do stack, but they do so multiplicatively. The max CDR for ultimates is 75.25%, obtained through 40% CDR, Cosmic Insight, UHunter, and 4 cloud dragon buffs. So soraka can have less than 30 sec r?????????????
Rioter Comments
rujitra (NA)
: Why is your desire to play more important than their desire to ban?
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2Xkw0yE4,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-22T12:50:06.103+0000) > > Why is your desire to play more important than their desire to ban? Why not? Causr they are 4? Does that really justify ?
rujitra (NA)
: Your opinion does not change the rules. Banning the champion you want to, whatever reason, is not against the rules.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=2Xkw0yE4,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-19T13:53:44.512+0000) > > Your opinion does not change the rules. Banning the champion you want to, whatever reason, is not against the rules. Even when i want to play it? When u say pls dont ban akali and someone bans that why is it ok? Since u go by rules and not opinions lets hear your rational only argument
: First ban and 14 days
You should make a ticket to riot....In my opinion the teamate that banned your pick on purpose should get also banned... But riot is sensitive enough
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: I'm 99% sure they're just the ARAM changes. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, though.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LEs9WA0s,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-02T13:16:13.549+0000) > > I'm 99% sure they're just the ARAM changes. > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, though. Example malza does 15% less dmg on urf... It says it when u go urf as malza
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: There will always be toxicity especially when teams are a mix of people who play for fun and people who play to win.
> [{quoted}](name=Teemos Tittiees,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dzqGUT2N,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-15T10:31:43.857+0000) > > There will always be toxicity especially when teams are a mix of people who play for fun and people who play to win. Well if banned sextuple the toxicity will stop... Imagine say fak you and get insta chat banned for that
: > [{quoted}](name=Sinful Succubus,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=osFp70e9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-15T11:13:15.530+0000) > > you should let riot take it from here. as long as you weren't toxic back , you should have nothing to worry about. picking jinx mid is allowed i wouldn't say i was toxic. i was typing in all caps how i was so good they had to send 3 mid just to kill me, but im really emphasizing that they tried to file false reports and i might be seen as toxic when i really wasn't.
> [{quoted}](name=dr sexy rengar,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=osFp70e9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-15T11:35:37.410+0000) > > i wouldn't say i was toxic. i was typing in all caps how i was so good they had to send 3 mid just to kill me, but im really emphasizing that they tried to file false reports and i might be seen as toxic when i really wasn't. The problem is that riot wont ban them... There is valid proof that they harased you and trolled the game... Unfortunately rito doesnt do anything about that...
Rioter Comments
: Permanently banned because I'm defending myself?
Riot seems to think that revealed players that got banned is negative itself...
: Your honor will go up only if you're playing non-negative games. Since you've been playing pretty regularly, you probably have been somewhat negative, but under the threshold for punishment. If that doesn't describe you, then you should write a [Support ticket](https://support.riotgames.com) or message them on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/RiotSupport) and ask them to look into your games to see why your honor isn't going up.
> [{quoted}](name=Periscope,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=zzAiH8Al,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-02T08:11:09.841+0000) > > Your honor will go up only if you're playing non-negative games. Since you've been playing pretty regularly, you probably have been somewhat negative, but under the threshold for punishment. > > If that doesn't describe you, then you should write a [Support ticket](https://support.riotgames.com) or message them on [Twitter](https://twitter.com/RiotSupport) and ask them to look into your games to see why your honor isn't going up. Hmmm there is a Threshold? Care to share? Or u know nothing?
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: did you forget my previous comment already if it's without any exceptions you would be among the first to lose their account i guarantee it
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ha02bkc8,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-02T15:04:33.057+0000) > > did you forget my previous comment already > > if it's without any exceptions you would be among the first to lose their account i guarantee it ? Where did i swear any families?
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: they are getting banned you will not be notified when they get banned riot is in no way obligated to notify you either
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ha02bkc8,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-02T14:56:50.742+0000) > > they are getting banned > > you will not be notified when they get banned > riot is in no way obligated to notify you either Lol you dont understand or what.... THEY NEVER GET BANNED AFTER ONLY 1 GAME THAT IS A FACT... AND I JUST SAY THEY SHOULD WITHOUT ANY EXCEPTIONS
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: oh people are getting banned for verbal and hate lurk in these boards for a few days and you would find plenty of threads of those people gettnig banned what im saying is that you slipping and saying "fuck you" to somebody shouldn't instantly mean you lose your account
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ha02bkc8,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-02T14:16:25.082+0000) > > oh people are getting banned for verbal and hate > lurk in these boards for a few days and you would find plenty of threads of those people gettnig banned > > what im saying is that you slipping and saying "fuck you" to somebody shouldn't instantly mean you lose your account You clearly didnt understand anything... I mean when someone swears your family why rito is obligated to give him second and third and fourth chance?
Pxerkza (EUNE)
: yes incentivise more inting because we can't handle people talking in a negative manner
> [{quoted}](name=Pxerkza,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ha02bkc8,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-02T14:03:10.068+0000) > > yes incentivise more inting because we can't handle people talking in a negative manner So noone should get banned for verbal or hate... GG
Rioter Comments
: Everything is going to be a band-aid, because not everything is going to go by your standards and not everyone agree with your standards. Nothing is going to resolve how you want them to. Nothing in this game or internet will always fold to your standards. You have no choice but to ignore it. At least you got a function not to pay attention to it. It's your own doing if you choose not to ignore it. Don't expect punishments for those you disagree with or dislike what they have to say. Not going to happen that way. Not everything in life or in entertainment to go your way. Mute it or find a new game.
> [{quoted}](name=Zombie Gerbil,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=a9k6A066,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-17T03:24:09.684+0000) > > Everything is going to be a band-aid, because not everything is going to go by your standards and not everyone agree with your standards. Nothing is going to resolve how you want them to. Nothing in this game or internet will always fold to your standards. You have no choice but to ignore it. At least you got a function not to pay attention to it. It's your own doing if you choose not to ignore it. > > Don't expect punishments for those you disagree with or dislike what they have to say. > Not going to happen that way. Not everything in life or in entertainment to go your way. > > Mute it or find a new game. Or maybe rito could ban an increased percentage of toxic players without giving them 3rd and 4th chances...
zPOOPz (NA)
: https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us
> [{quoted}](name=zPOOPz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Xu3cv17F,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-16T08:18:20.408+0000) > > https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us It won't have any effect...
E420 (EUW)
: Going to repeat again: I got INSTANTLY banned after a game in a new champion selection for "KYS". Tolerance is not low else they would lift my one time usage of KYS (which I did not even know was an instant skipper to 14 days ban). You mean handling reports/tickets unbiasedly is very low - true that.
> [{quoted}](name=E420,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Hz491AEz,comment-id=00000000000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-08T12:30:09.311+0000) > > Going to repeat again: I got INSTANTLY banned after a game in a new champion selection for "KYS". Tolerance is not low else they would lift my one time usage of KYS (which I did not even know was an instant skipper to 14 days ban). > > You mean handling reports/tickets unbiasedly is very low - true that. Yes you are right and riot always denys that... Like ALWAYS
: turning off ally chat works.
You do the right thing... I wish rito would start banning thrice as many toxic ppl
rujitra (NA)
: **I** have no power or responsibility in regards to this. I am just another player. I am trying to provide the facts and the fact is that them playing yesterday does not mean Riot refuses to ban them. There are other explanations.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=F4kqKEIm,comment-id=0007000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-03T16:47:01.396+0000) > > **I** have no power or responsibility in regards to this. I am just another player. > > I am trying to provide the facts and the fact is that them playing yesterday does not mean Riot refuses to ban them. There are other explanations. How can i become a specialist too?
: I dont know. I would hope so, but we know how safe Riot likes to be in not banning people who are just bad. If its actual proof, i would think yes they are getting banned. But your idea of proof might not be an objective truth.
> [{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=N7HmNGfW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-01T23:58:56.466+0000) > > I dont know. I would hope so, but we know how safe Riot likes to be in not banning people who are just bad. If its actual proof, i would think yes they are getting banned. But your idea of proof might not be an objective truth. Whats better than a video showing that someone goes str8 into mid and then just farms? Whats better?
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: Yes, that means they put your report into the queue. You do not jump the queue with a support ticket. If you want the backlog to be decreased you should be advocating for less players to falsely report such behaviors clogging the report queue. **** You know, I just noticed something. If their entire team agreed to open mid to let the game end sooner, they may not be punished for doing so. Given their ridiculously low gold and fact so many were involved, this seems likely.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=F4kqKEIm,comment-id=00070000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-03T13:42:25.259+0000) > > Yes, that means they put your report into the queue. > > You do not jump the queue with a support ticket. > > If you want the backlog to be decreased you should be advocating for less players to falsely report such behaviors clogging the report queue. > > **** > You know, I just noticed something. If their entire team agreed to open mid to let the game end sooner, they may not be punished for doing so. Given their ridiculously low gold and fact so many were involved, this seems likely. So u wont ban based on a theory that has 10% likelihood most? Nice.. Also what he meant is that if they got banned it would be a 14 day.... So if they played within 5 days means no ban was accumulated .... Simple.... ANd riot isnt god... You dont have to stand up for them like yr life depends on it....
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