Barkley (NA)
: League is in a critically bad state right now.
so u are gold for 7 seasons and u think u know better than riot? u can't even state some problems u just got beaten up in ranked and u come here to complain as usual.
: DO NOT BUFF YASUO!
no one said anything when yas lost 60 ad from the fervor why u bitch about him getting a buff he's already on 47 % w/r he needs compensation about the fervor loss as much as any other fervor fighter. if u say yas is frustrating to lane against u sound like it's beautiful to lane against fizz or a kat.
: DO NOT BUFF YASUO!
> [{quoted}](name=Swagtori Komeiji,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GKVEjAPi,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-12-08T13:05:00.838+0000) > > Don't give people more reasons to play this abomination...! > > No I don't talk about the Q buff, I talk about DOUBLING his MR/Level. Not like AP Champs have it hard enough vs Yas already noooo... coming into the boards makes my day anytime.
: +20 Q damage +200 range ulti +buffed MR
> [{quoted}](name=Giggling Granny,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n3yYGLHe,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-12-08T21:20:10.212+0000) > > Oh what could go wrong? {{champion:157}} > > So this game is a mess and it need to be balanced and Riot decide to put 3 huge buffs on the most toxic champion kit ever created... > > Yeah be ready again for the 100% yasuo ban... > > Riot nerf the ulti range so you will need to actually be close to team fight in order to ulti now they give +200 range > > They nerf his MR because he have a freel shield now they buff his MR back... > > They nerf his Q base damage because of how easy is to abuse melee champions through minions now they buff it back... > > So they nerf this champion for a reason and now Riot is like "Yeah well i guess now we need something to be broken so the players to not tell us to nerf ADC any more" > > No Riot Yasuo being broken and 100% ban ratio may shift the boards from the "NERF ADC" which is justified but it would just create 2 problems...because you refuse to fix one and you try to cover one mistake with some other broken champion.. > > Because its obvious..we all k now that yasuo would be broken in the next patch and the boards/reddit would shift to "nerf yasuo" and i know that you know that this would take 4-6 patches of "talking of how to nerf yasuo" and people would forget the ADC.. > > STOP THIS BS RIOT god damn why this game become so bad? wtf happen.... 1. there is no champ that had been 100% banned (the only exception i remember is 120% ban rate zac due to both teams banning him). 2. Yasuo needed some power back since the ferver of battle changes came through same goes for fighters like fiora. 3. There are way more frustrating things than a yasuo for example zoe sitting at 8% banrate followed after with zed 5.81% then is ezreal and ornn 5.59% and 4.21% respective. Cho'gath was way more banned than yasuo when the Gargoyle stoneplate was implemented. 5. if u gonna hate a champion at least get real arguments rather than just saying "frustrating to play against" same can go for the times u lane against fizz renekton jax etc.
: Yasuo lost a fair bit of his power as we headed into the pre-season, and then got brought down further with Press The Attack nerfs last patch. Leaving him at 44-45% winrate feels quite awful for a champion that has one of the most dedicated playerbases, Not to mention the fact that he's a champion who drops off steeply in effectiveness the farther you climb. giving him even just some power back doesn't feel inappropriate. Referencing all of the things we nerfed on him in the past is somewhat misleading, since you're talking about a time before runes reforged, and he was sporting a winrate over 50% of his games.
> [{quoted}](name=Maple Nectar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n3yYGLHe,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-12-08T23:00:08.254+0000) > > Yasuo lost a fair bit of his power as we headed into the pre-season, and then got brought down further with Press The Attack nerfs last patch. Leaving him at 44-45% winrate feels quite awful for a champion that has one of the most dedicated playerbases, Not to mention the fact that he's a champion who drops off steeply in effectiveness the farther you climb. giving him even just some power back doesn't feel inappropriate. Referencing all of the things we nerfed on him in the past is somewhat misleading, since you're talking about a time before runes reforged, and he was sporting a winrate over 50% of his games. yep there are a few champs like yasuo fiora that lost ALOT of power with the ferver of battle becoming press the attack. so dont get too surprised people when u see such buffs.
: either revert the aery nerf or give ap mages a real keystone
i still demand a real Deathfire keystone let's face it scorch is just a joke it cant even scratch your opponent's bracers.
UNFORG1V3N (EUNE)
: Suggestion: Manaflow Band
it's not really just a buff it's just a fix for the manaflow it's not good that u take something knowing that a big portion of the game u wont be able to use it to it's full potential. also i don't think u ppl fully understand what i'm suggesting.
Rioter Comments
Rexxiee (NA)
: "we nerfed orange esssence because you'd be getting more skin shards"
This preaseason 1. U feel punished for playing 2. U dont get instant rewards and u feel like a garbage this model must not be followed at all the idea that u must play 15 games+ to get any rewards. 3. OE disenchant nerf do i even have to comment? 4. A company that makes ALOT of $$$ every year trying to copy EA's way of ripping of their customers is just not going to work. 5. Runes are the only good thing this time.
Rexxiee (NA)
: "we nerfed orange esssence because you'd be getting more skin shards"
Riot trying to cosplay EA's greed with those 600 essence from 3250 rp skins. u do realise ppl have no reason to spend RP on Lootboxes they wont gamble if its only high risk low reward.
: I despise playing against Ekko.
have u tried laning against a fizz?
Rioter Comments
Kyunsei (EUW)
: Rework Crit damage multiplier into a % armor penetration.
so basically u want more lethality items lul.
: Zoe is in my book the most fraustrating champion to deal with.
and i still will be hating fizz more than anything not only his E (which is on absurd low cooldown for the power it provides) the thing i call "magic crit" from his W for a random reason he has that but whatever he's so slippery and doesnt have much downsides it's just too opressive if they gonna change something on zoe so they must do the same for fizz champs that go unvulnerable on 5 sec cd must not be allowed to be so powerful.
Hópe (NA)
: Bot lane is currently if you die a single time you lose your tower.
u actually can lose 2 towers if the jg stays 20 sec more :P
: Plz I am begging you riot remake yasuo ASAP
If u gonna complain use arguments at least not just staring at riot waiting for a miracle.
: Plz I am begging you riot remake yasuo ASAP
what i understood from your paraguaian i guess? "I suck at the game and i refuse to learn the matchup against yasuo so u better nerf him" Ppl gotta stop blaming someone else for them being bad at the game u wont improve if u never blame yourself.
: Anything that has descriptions like "play in matchmade games" will not work in Bot games.
> [{quoted}](name=BeatzBoyFTW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lnE58zlk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-12-04T11:37:41.647+0000) > > Anything that has descriptions like "play in matchmade games" will not work in Bot games. those missions work on intermediate bots
: The autofill system was implemented to reduce queue time, but it did the opposite
que times were never an issue under diamond elo anyways autofil is something that higher elos need so they dont wait 15 min to get matchmade. Riot love to "fix" stuff w/o them even being broken at the first place.
R3R4LJ (NA)
: Please add the name of who's pinging someone's rune/item before their ping.
i'm literally getting reported for "spam" when someone else pings my items ROFL.
Krytoric (NA)
: Towers are insanely bad
if the jg ganks bot and towerdives at minute 8 by the time enemy bot respawns they already got 2 towers on bot lul.
: Also regardless which path you choose, build athenes. The item synergizes too well with her to ever pass it up...except in the event that you build [this godly masterpiece](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/GTKlZhxl-my-new-favorite-setup-for-lux-i-support) of a build. Okay, so I haven't tested it enough to rightfully call it that, but I haven't had this much fun as Lux support in a while. I had a game the other day with 200 crowd control score where the average between the other NINE players in the game was 38 LOL. There is something DEEPLY satisfying about using {{item:3030}} on an enemy team that's grouped up. I play it with elementalist Lux's ice form, and the rune page is called Permafrost lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Final Spark Lux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fLXPJ8EE,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-12-01T07:34:37.123+0000) > > Also regardless which path you choose, build athenes. The item synergizes too well with her to ever pass it up...except in the event that you build > [this godly masterpiece](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/GTKlZhxl-my-new-favorite-setup-for-lux-i-support) of a build. Okay, so I haven't tested it enough to rightfully call it that, but I haven't had this much fun as Lux support in a while. I had a game the other day with 200 crowd control score where the average between the other NINE players in the game was 38 LOL. There is something DEEPLY satisfying about using {{item:3030}} on an enemy team that's grouped up. I play it with elementalist Lux's ice form, and the rune page is called Permafrost lol. i used to play alot of lux the last 2 seasons but i realised that she is not really good against tanks and stepped away from her im thinking to pick her up again tho.
Dasdi96 (NA)
: I think I am just going to ban vayne this whole season.
if u think shiv+ie is bad u gotta taste Guinsoo + frozen mallet :). Anyways, i will keep banning cho i pref to ban 6k hp monster that does 1,2k true damage w/o literal counterplay instead of squish adc with less than 2k hp.
: That sounds like it would make for an excellent cinematic. I can imagine how epic that must have been :D
> [{quoted}](name=Final Spark Lux,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fLXPJ8EE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-12-01T06:23:59.070+0000) > > That sounds like it would make for an excellent cinematic. I can imagine how epic that must have been :D also yasuo + oriana can 2v5 all day long i suggest u try this combination with a friend :) by far one of the best hardcore carrying stuff i've ever playtested.
: Memories of your first ranked game?
Season 5 around may not sure if this was the first it might be but anyways. Ryze support going 0/6/2 the usual flame and that was it. got placed silver 5 eventually.
Troxic (NA)
: Gangplanks Passive is BS
álso don't just make a thread when u lose 1 lane to X champion w/o any real arguments get better and stop blaming on the champions.
Troxic (NA)
: Gangplanks Passive is BS
Gp is one of the weakest champion on lane he needs some power somewhere else or he will be shit in late game too. + GP has very high skill cap.
: I don't think you know what punished means. If you do play a lot anyway you'll get more levels thus more stuff. Plus if you've been playing a while you probably know all the champions in the game you like. Being able to buy the mystery shards help get champions at a big discount. I've gotten 2 worth 11,100 blue essence by spending 7,900. That's 3200 blue essence saved just off of buying 2 of then. Plus there's a chance you get a shard for a specific champion you want you can get a discount.
> [{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sELwX0v1,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-11-30T08:20:59.789+0000) > > I don't think you know what punished means. > If you do play a lot anyway you'll get more levels thus more stuff. > Plus if you've been playing a while you probably know all the champions in the game you like. Being able to buy the mystery shards help get champions at a big discount. I've gotten 2 worth 11,100 blue essence by spending 7,900. That's 3200 blue essence saved just off of buying 2 of then. Plus there's a chance you get a shard for a specific champion you want you can get a discount. riot have stated that if u play less games and using the first win bonus u get 20% more than someone spamming 15 games.
Jamaree (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sELwX0v1,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-11-30T07:25:32.335+0000) > > Actually, with how the system works, the less you play, you get FAR more then you did before. i don't think u fully understood what i wrote.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=UNFORG1V3N,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w0dgesA8,comment-id=00090001000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T06:18:25.405+0000) > > BE System is a proof or thing that didn't undergo any testing they just throw something paired with good "math" and we're gucci. They would have done a large amount of internal testing plus they ran tests on the pbe for weeks, do you really think a company as big as Riot would make these changes for no good reason or with no evidence that it would leave a positive impact? All these people playing league and no one has faith in Riot...
> [{quoted}](name=xXTechMasterXx,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w0dgesA8,comment-id=000900010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T07:06:06.078+0000) > > They would have done a large amount of internal testing plus they ran tests on the pbe for weeks, do you really think a company as big as Riot would make these changes for no good reason or with no evidence that it would leave a positive impact? All these people playing league and no one has faith in Riot... Following Riot blindlessly wont pay off bud. trying to defend system that is made by math geeks for real humans is never gonna work. Riot's respond is that Boards and Reddit reflect small amount of the playerbase then whats the point of those forums if riot is going to only do their do-diligene and dont care for feedback that is against their changes.
: > [{quoted}](name=UNFORG1V3N,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w0dgesA8,comment-id=00090001000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T06:18:25.405+0000) > > BE System is a proof or thing that didn't undergo any testing they just throw something paired with good "math" and we're gucci. They would have done a large amount of internal testing plus they ran tests on the pbe for weeks, do you really think a company as big as Riot would make these changes for no good reason or with no evidence that it would leave a positive impact? All these people playing league and no one has faith in Riot...
> [{quoted}](name=xXTechMasterXx,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w0dgesA8,comment-id=000900010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T07:06:06.078+0000) > > They would have done a large amount of internal testing plus they ran tests on the pbe for weeks, do you really think a company as big as Riot would make these changes for no good reason or with no evidence that it would leave a positive impact? All these people playing league and no one has faith in Riot... tell me how possitive it is to feel punished by an ingame system for playing? ppl who barely play any games mathematiaclly make more profit than me playing 10-15 games a day. there is nothing worse than this BE system it's so unrewarding and against the players. How come Riot decides what's better for the player base when the player base hates the changes. Riot gotta stop playing the "Dad" and tell us what's the best when it's clear that this system is against the players.
: AND do you really think that Riot doesn't plan through everything and look at outcomes before they release things? Those "very poorly done Gamble Boxes" would have been through so much testing, trial and error and calculations, they are not "poorly done" at all. Yes the chests can be disappointing but there is a fair chance you will get a legendary skin or higher for absolutely nothing, that's almost $10 of content free. Mate, I understand your frustration but you really have to look deeper into things, take that $10 and give it to every single player lets say once a month, that's over 690 million dollars given away. Just think more before you hate post.
> [{quoted}](name=xXTechMasterXx,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w0dgesA8,comment-id=0009000100000000,timestamp=2017-11-29T06:11:48.463+0000) > > AND do you really think that Riot doesn't plan through everything and look at outcomes before they release things? Those "very poorly done Gamble Boxes" would have been through so much testing, trial and error and calculations, they are not "poorly done" at all. Yes the chests can be disappointing but there is a fair chance you will get a legendary skin or higher for absolutely nothing, that's almost $10 of content free. Mate, I understand your frustration but you really have to look deeper into things, take that $10 and give it to every single player lets say once a month, that's over 690 million dollars given away. Just think more before you hate post. BE System is a proof or thing that didn't undergo any testing they just throw something paired with good "math" and we're gucci.
: First win of the day and orange essence problem.
Riot's greed for money actually made them make less money ROFL no one uses RP to buy hextech chests after the OE change.
: Oh shit I just realized I misread the post. I thought OP was talking about leveling chests. My bad! Just deleting my stupid comment above lol Will pass on OP's feedback to others in the company.
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Cactopus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w0dgesA8,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2017-11-28T19:34:11.707+0000) > > Oh shit I just realized I misread the post. I thought OP was talking about leveling chests. My bad! Just deleting my stupid comment above lol > > Will pass on OP's feedback to others in the company. Proof that riot uses automated answers.
StealthG (EUNE)
: Orange Essence Changes you probably didnt notice.
in their greedy effort to milk the players even more then only tackled themselves, almost no one buys chests since they are useless dust collectors right now no point opening them.
: People make me not want to play this game
making your conclusions based on one normal match with few 12 yr old's :D but for real if u want to really enjoy dont play during the day also /fullmute all command helps alot.
jimboman (NA)
: Can Haste Get You Banned?
Dude if lol youtubers advertise Haste and get sponsored by it would it be malicious lol. u are free to use it riot wont do anything to you.
: Boards are congested and ignored. League subreddit is being dismissed. Give us a voice, Riot.
Riot have lost their mind now they are at the point that they punish u for playing more than a casual player by geting less BE from playing 15+ games than a player with 3-4 games a day.
: Let's Discuss: Pre-Season 2017 - Blue Essence & Content Pricing
the most insane is that i actually get PUNISHED for playing more than the rest they get more BE than me with less than 5 games a day and when i spam 16+ games a day i get practically less than someone who is barely playing the game bullshit.
: Jhin has no way to kite garen wat
> [{quoted}](name=Rinký Dinky,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Wepg7N96,comment-id=00000004,timestamp=2017-11-27T04:24:30.643+0000) > > Jhin has no way to kite garen wat Full crit late game Jhin has no problems kiting Garen since he will just get to 1k movement speed or above and garen is nowhere near catching that.
dominusx (EUNE)
: Oh so much tenacity everywhere.
U do realise that tenacity is capped on 44% ? why ppl sound like u can stack it till 70-100% being practically immune to slows stuns ? :D
SKP23en (EUW)
: Okay, first: a congratulation is in order. I know finding a balance between the use and the granting of the in-game income is not easy, but this system is finally reaching acceptable parameters. I like that the milestone emotes are free. Having an unlocking cost was nasty and not in harmony with the concept of "reward" for reaching a level. I haven't hit my level 40 yet but I would like to do a suggestion: can the Glorious capsules of 2120 BE have a guaranteed 6300 champion shard? That's 1260BE, and it gives a higher chance of having a discount in the newer champions. It would add to the feeling of reaching a new stage on the game. Personally I like having more champion shards than raw BE, if they have the same value. There is more of a chance to upgrade the masteries of those low-cost champions like that. But I do find obnoxious opening a capsule and finding 2 Singed shards and one Ryze shard, so is not that bad of a change. And about the First win I like that now it starts more early. I still would rather to have it reset at the early morning (4 am or so) so it doesn't limit me to always play at the last hour of the day if I couldn't play at the morning for one day. (That or either lose the bonus). Anyways. Good changes, Riot. Showing EA how lootboxes are done, I see. Though they aren't in a perfect state yet, so don't get to sleep yet.
> [{quoted}](name=SKP23en,realm=EUW,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=BQed8FWz,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2017-11-22T19:54:30.307+0000) > > Okay, first: a congratulation is in order. I know finding a balance between the use and the granting of the in-game income is not easy, but this system is finally reaching acceptable parameters. > > I like that the milestone emotes are free. Having an unlocking cost was nasty and not in harmony with the concept of "reward" for reaching a level. I haven't hit my level 40 yet but I would like to do a suggestion: can the Glorious capsules of 2120 BE have a guaranteed 6300 champion shard? That's 1260BE, and it gives a higher chance of having a discount in the newer champions. It would add to the feeling of reaching a new stage on the game. > > Personally I like having more champion shards than raw BE, if they have the same value. There is more of a chance to upgrade the masteries of those low-cost champions like that. But I do find obnoxious opening a capsule and finding 2 Singed shards and one Ryze shard, so is not that bad of a change. > > And about the First win I like that now it starts more early. I still would rather to have it reset at the early morning (4 am or so) so it doesn't limit me to always play at the last hour of the day if I couldn't play at the morning for one day. (That or either lose the bonus). > > Anyways. Good changes, Riot. Showing EA how lootboxes are done, I see. Though they aren't in a perfect state yet, so don't get to sleep yet. they just do a fuck up after fuck up first the change of IP system that was a good one to the BE thing that lets u get the currency after u bot 15 games. if they didnt do this IP to BE change this problem woudnt even occur at the first place u make yourself more work that u should for somereason.
: Leveling and Rewards - Improvements to Milestone Emotes, Capsules, & FWotD
Riot must realise who really is paying their bills it's about damn time we dont want your changes that YOU think are good when WE think those stuff hurt us. "Stop fixing what isn't broken". The old IP system was really well made this new BE one seems like made for 1h by 3 math geeks w/o human feelings.
: Leveling and Rewards - Improvements to Milestone Emotes, Capsules, & FWotD
just give us BE after each game ... i feel retarded for spamming 15 games daily to not get instant rewards for my time investment i get mentally raped in school now even in LoL too not cool ... used to chill with lol now it's only frustration.
: Unlimited Scaling needs to go.
nasus has pretty defined weaknesses he is vurnable to camping alot, he's melee is easy to be kited so he has to splitpush and if he splitpushes his team can be in a 4v5 fight till nasus does his magic. if u play the map poorly nasus will outsmart all of your calls by just getting free stacks that he shoudnt get and you are in silver 4 u cant judge the meta if u play so low into the ladder since you and your teammates dont have any knowledge how to counter certain playstyles such as nasus's 24/7 pushing top or bot. so on and so forth
Sheder (EUNE)
: Make more Support skins
dude they made autofill since very few ppl were putting support as primary they will lose money if they make skins for champs that not much play. they will rather make some more adc / mid lane skins instead. rito have stats they look upon before making a skin u cant just yell at them for a soraka skin.
: Let's Discuss: Pre-Season 2017 - Blue Essence & Content Pricing
Also i like how riot employees use pre-made answers to any question regarding the new changes :D
: Let's Discuss: Pre-Season 2017 - Blue Essence & Content Pricing
if they let this system go in the new season i guarantee u that the playing will drasticaly drop i hate when riot put a change to something that works perfectly fine and make it dogshit i grind 10-20 games daily and i get practically nothing i get less than someone who plays 1-3 games a day which is disgusting i put alot of effort and i dont make progress. why i gotta be fucked because i have spare time that i invest into the game? bring back the old IP and fix the disgusting Orange Essence disenchant rates ppl wanna spend $$$ on hextech chests and this change doesnt allow them to get something worth it for their money.
: I Would Like To Call Bullshit On Blue Essence Gained Per Level-Up Being "Faster Than The Old System"
> [{quoted}](name=Shuyin178,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U4qWy72v,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-11-20T23:03:25.854+0000) > > To reach level 15 from 0 EXP at 14, it takes at least 12 games, maybe a little less WITHOUT FIRST WIN OF THE DAY FACTORED IN. > > Lets say you got 60 IP per game in the old system, at 12 matches that is 720 IP. > Not once have I gained even 600 BE worth of stuff when I level up. > > So if I'm not even getting the 60IP per game WHICH IS A LOSING STREAK how in the hell is Blue Essence faster when the loot given per level doesn't even come close to breaking even? by their math ppl who dont play much daily are getting approx 20% more IP and those who play more than the average are fucked.
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