PB4UAME (NA)
: Support, Mid, and Top are the three roles referred to, as best I can guess with Mordekaiser, Neeko, Kayle, Ryze, Vlad, Kennen, Rumble, Singed, Cho, and Heimer all in the top 10 winrates for Plat/Diamond/Master top lane, depending on which one you look at. by bans we also have Sylas, Morde, Akali, Vlad in the top 10 most banned for Top in all three of Plat/Diamond/Masters+
Given we are seriously mentoining Morde, Kayle, Singed and Akali I don't even know what we are talking about? Moody mentoined Mages as If only they dealt magic damage to have chance to shittalk them. Somehow when it comes to physical damage we have Tanks, Bruisers, Skirmishers, Assasins but with magic damage it's all Mage? That sounds biased. And only half of the problem is Mage itemiation. If we want to go with dominantly magic damage, as would OP's post suggest (since he talks MR items which counter magic damage not AP): leagueofgraphs | #10 | Plat+ | Toplane | Going by common sense of what is majority of their damage from by "What would I build to def against them; Armor or MR?" Pickrate: 8 physical damage, 2 magic damage (Morde, Tahm Kench) Winrate: 6 physical damage, 3 magic damage (Kayle, Neeko, Maokai) then there's Voli who is the only one I cannot categorize, so it's either 7:3 or 6:4 Banrate: 5 physical damage, 5 magic damage (Morde, Tahm Kench, Vlad, Sylas, Akali) Physical damage is simply picked more often top while there are picks from magic damage people are frustrated with. From these only two are really Mage. Going by pickrate (real dominance), only Supp (8) and Mid (6) are dominated by magic damage and even then Supp is only dominated by it because Rissoto games has allergy for physical damage enchanter (note that it's possible to scale with AD and still do physical damage). Even If you go All Roles, it's literally 15:5 ratio in favour of physical damage.
Moody P (NA)
: Mages: dominant in 3 lanes. Maybe he has a point.
I'd like context for this. Looking at #10 Plat+ separately for each role, separately for winrate, pickrate, banrate, being generous and counting Sylas, Rumble, Karma. Morgana and Vladimir as Mages (though the "generous" part is mostly about Sylas). TOP: 3-5 Juggernauts, 0-2 Mages ADC: 0 of both JNG: 0 of both expect 2 Juggernauts by winrate MID: 0 Juggernauts, 4-6 Mages [by winrate, leaning towards domination] SUPP: 0 Juggernauts, 3-5 Mages [by winrate, leaning towards domination]
: thought this was gonna become a discussion about hypercarries, I was pleasantly surprised
It's in M&G with little comments, by my experience, there's still chance someone doesn't notice the category or ignores it and this will become a discussion about hypercarries.
: Supports (Long Image)
Rioter Comments
: https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/texplainthejoke.jpg
But what If explaining the joke is part of the joke.
: If you really wanted him to be a swift scout the first thing you should do is allow them to get rid of his R, scouts have no need for illegal substances its against the scouts code.
He's also guerilla, the shroom is supposed to be trap turning environment to his advantage in known area.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blakiepug,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lYpU7iNF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-16T15:40:19.511+0000) > > I really wish the Rioter working on this Teemo rework would just give up and let it go already. The rework completely misunderstands why the champion is so popular and fun to play. > [{quoted}](name=Wild Geese,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lYpU7iNF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-16T17:48:18.652+0000) > > Hopefully we've seen the last of that "rework", it was crap. Teemo doesn't need any rework, we don't need to see him in pro play. Do you guys think it's possible that they'll just drop it? I've been under the impression that it's happening no matter what we want, and we just have to direct it to be the best we can.
It is should it not be well recieved. If I am not mistaken Karma rework has been delayed or frozen given that I saw no update, though this one stopped before PBE, they were just exploring ideas. Teemo's work is quite advanced though given the bad track record of mini-updates (from the bundle updates, Tank Updates, Assasin Updates etc.) I think they'll be much more careful with mini-updates now.
FkValeRly (EUW)
: you don't HAVE to last hit minions or deal damage to enemies but if you want to win you will do it.
It's just a common courtesy to help your exp bar and purse
: Huh, I was confused. I thought it was something cleaver like Sona talking shit to Vayne but I guess it is not.
Well I am sorry it wasn't {{item:3071}}
: Who is saying what? Both are colored red. Both of the texts are colored red. How am I supposed to know who's talking and saying what
By watching Tangled. If you haven't watched Tangled this meme is out of your league you casual.
Rockman (NA)
: "Mom can I make a post?"
I expected her lips to literally run out of reach of the oxygen soup.
: Nah. That's better for Kai'Sa who actually has reasons to build both. MF's should just grow anytime she gets a takedown.
But that would be a nerf. Come lategame she would be easy to hit even with Jhin W because of sheer expanse of her assets.
: that would be a bit inconsistent though, because even steraks procs regardless of where you are. same with nullifying orb in general
Inconsistent with what? I am talking about extra condition for NO as rune because Chembaron is afraid the rune would be used that way because it can be used by more people. Seemingly, he doesn't think Sterak has the problem.
Rioter Comments
: But it also enables many champions to way more tower dives frequently.
Well If it would be intention to avoid such usage and make it defensive rune you could always make condition that it doesn't proc within enemy active turret range. More conditions like this will also allow the rune to be something more than mini-hexdrinker-shield If you really don't feel like building hexdrinker.
: > [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=h2KI7iu9,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-16T13:11:24.980+0000) > the twitter posts conviniently committed, Sorry, not trying to personally omit the tweets, I just genuinely don't know how to share them on here XD
In that case it's still better to just copy-paste what they said as quote.
: I think your statement is fair, as neither player acknowledged Nightblue3 in their post. What they did do was condemn the roaming Teemo support strat, say that Nubrac SHOULD have been banned, and then conveniently left Nightblue3 out of the discussion. All I'm saying is this: Doublelift and Jensen (who both have a reputation for being incredibly toxic in the past themselves... just saying) specifically went out of their way to call out Nubrac and say the ban was justified (I don't care if it was or it wasn't, personally. My problem isn't with that), while not having any opinion on Nightblue3 himself and wether or not what he did was wrong. Nightblue3 SHARED both of these tweets to defend himself and his actions as a specific way to show that he had pro player support to do what he did. Wether Jensen or Doublelift meant it to be support for Nightblue3 or not is really no longer relevant, as Nighblue3 has now used them both to justify his actions. It's a messy situation. The pro players should have just stayed out of it... but alas, here we are. I think that's why i haven't been able to find any other pro players who have come out in support of Nightblue3, because most of them genuinely feel what we all feel: You either ban them both, or let them both go.
I agree with most of this except that they should've stayed out of it. They provided NB3 with ammunition but also provided important context that Nubrac was the problem (too) not just the victim. That's important because some people don't have the mentality "boíth should be banned" but "Nubrac is victim". NB3 was displayed as "not the victim" in most popular threads, pros simply pointed out Nubrac isn't victim either. All in all, I mostly agree with it being "messy situation". Nubrac goes unpunished for several seasons (according to the pro players), Riot proves he picks this "strategy" to specifically troll streamers yet the action is done through NB3 having connection. Regardless of NB3 deserving ban too, regardless of Nubrac being justifiedly banned, that alone feels shitty. Majority of playerbase is in low elo, non-streamers, we get trolled all the time but don't get this treatment because we don't have the prestigue. The logic would be that there is less streamers, less people in high elo so it's easier to review them manually, but that point is compromised by Nubrac doing this for long time. Messy and shitty. Next thing is offmeta versus trolling. Riot pulls out vague "think of your team's need" but also "Is it meta" video promoting 6 Wit's End Diana. They wanted to be playful but it came across as pretense that this game actually supports such liberal playstyles while it doesn't, they don't do much for it to do, they probably even cannot do that without creating abuse strats and they ban margin cases. Honestly there is no good in this pit. None of us would want to have our promos ruined by faulty strategy, all of us would like to play game with many choices. Messy and shitty. Finally, it's streamers prohibiting behaviour which gets normal players punished while they go unpunished. If you called someone r-word because they genuinly troll and you get justifiedly frustrated, you get Riot Support and most of PB Boards riding on you with their high horse of "Someone doing bad thing doesn't justify you doing one too", but these things get ignored when done by high elo stramers. And If they strated actually banning such people that would be like 80% of popular streamer scene, a lot of lost viewers a lot of lost revenue. Messy and shitty. I just don't think there's any solution.
: Riot, I see the akali nerfs. Wip up a batch of these kinds of nerfs for Yasuo.
_\*Laughs in getting skin every year even If it doesn't fit his thematic at all\*_
: Pros Who Support Nightblue3
I'd rather NB to be punished too, but this thread is slightly dishonest. Most of these people simply, without defending NB3, said that Nubrac deserved it because he ruined their games too and he has been allegedly doing this for longer time and he had it coming. DL simply said that If he was in his last promo game and someone did this strat (that basically allows majority of enemy team to get ahead in gold and exp for free) he'd report them too. ICU simply said NB3 did high elo community favor because Nubrac was just sabotaging games. I'd recommend people who actually care about non-biased opinions to look up twitter posts of people in the list, the twitter posts conviniently ommitted, the twitter posts providing context. Then decide If you think they actually defend toxic streamer or are just glad another troll streamer got finally punished or both.
: Dark Cosmic Jhin Concept Art & Such
That B splash art looks like he just remembered he forgot to turn off the oven in the middle of planetary destruction
: You want tank meta? Here, go play top {{champion:223}} , see how much fun it is? And I bet other players would love playing against your tank ;) sarcasm aside, tank meta is one of the most awful experiences you can ever have and {{champion:223}} is a reminder of that
Plus OP's point is that he'd die "over time". While he'd get CCd into afk state while the rest of enemy team oneshots him anyway.
: fuck yasuo id rather make lemonade in the toilet
Yet you have his icon. I smell a mole.
Lock On (NA)
: The ult is very unhealthy for the game. Not sure what the designer was smoking when he thought it was a good idea. But if they're hellbent on keeping it, there needs to be some real counterplay for it.
So is Sylas' and I'm sure taking Drag or Baron against Quiyana won't be fun either. They seem to focus more on interesting stuff rather than something balanced as many of those abilities have very obvious flaw even Silver player would see, so I'd rather believe that proffesional designers would go 'whatever' and bite the pillow. I mean even with Ryze ult you just know it would make huge gap between pro play and soloQ and they went with it anyway. On one hand it makes for some nice skill scaling, the better you are, the better you utilize those. On the other hand as long as pro scene exists and Silver has majority of playerbase, it'll end up meh to balance. And Yuumi is like all that in entire champion.
Rioter Comments
: 99 LP in X Tier Division 1.
I see you are interested only in exceptionally ~~rare~~ unlucky
: The only correct way to use Mord's new ult
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Neelem (EUW)
: [GAMEPLAY] Mordekaiser rework Q does not not have a smart cast indicator
Also the indicator is a line. While effect looks like cone. Not sure If misleading or lazy.
: A dash isn’t Flash. Nor is an ability in a champion’s kit “free” Bad meme.
That "Bad meme" sounded like scolding a dog. "Bad meme, no treat for you today"
: Irelia, Akali and Aatrox
Irelia already is Slayer. They migh've called her Diver because whoever was making the concept up was intoxicated but she plays exactly like Skimisher (go in, do damage in trade rather than assasination, go out and repeat; plus she can transition among multiple enemies in teamfight) which is subclass of Slayer. Neither Assasin nor Diver should have the capacity to transition from enemy to enemy in teamfight easily, that's usually trademark of such as Fiora or Yasuo (both Skimishers), though it's more Yas than Fiora.
Terozu (NA)
: Werent you one of the people who insulted me when I called for lux nerfs like 2 months ago?
You can check his post history. It's really short.
Zeanix (OCE)
: Confused about the future of Music in League
I'm actually surprised by the "support of future game" remark. It doesn't sound like they are talking about the Auto-Chess since it sounds like they are talking about something in further future and not specified by name plus Auto-Chess is simply a mode. Makes me partially worried.
FkValeRly (EUW)
: no its "lux supports that know what they're doing do this", which is where its at when considering whether the champion is broken or not.
Rompepollo's point still stands that Lux generally maxes E first, so accusing him of lying was just wrong and that was entire point of my post, because he's not lying. The thing is majority of staistics show she's succesful and majority of statistics show E-max Comet. So it's more like she is broken either way.
: I was genuinely expecting Battle Boss Xerath. I have no idea what to expect anymore.
Nothing really. In universe where Yasuo is better fit for Battle Boss than Xerath, Vel'Koz or any other monster champ they might as well openly say fuck you tot hose palyers who play them.
: > [{quoted}](name=Jimmy Rustles,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=p11Iblfu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-10T19:11:29.853+0000) > > You know it's bad when people aren't listed yasuo first anymore yasuo never belonged on the list, boards are just usually fucking stupid.
> [{quoted}](name=Grimspeake,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=p11Iblfu,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-10T20:05:25.982+0000) > > yasuo never belonged on the list, boards are just usually fucking stupid. Says the guy who lists Yuumi and Aatrox as infinite mobility? Yuumi's mobility is literally limited by presence of allies. Lockdown an ally and that free dash turns one kill into two. Even then, that could be accepted but If you have problem with Aatrox's occasional miniature dash that he is encouraged to use offensively and call it infinite mobility, you can't really call others fucking stupid.
: probably because most ap junglers suck butt. there's like 2 semi usable ones that strictly build ap
She's supposed to be a solo-laner tho.
: > [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Y1wBpLte,comment-id=00030002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-10T15:24:44.267+0000) > > Which is still better than 0 in a 100 chance the support won't respond the way they always do and somehow will know to resolve something they are not specialists in. i have a 100% reply rate and 95% effective help
Cool. First of all, that's like one person. Second of all, how many of those responses were related to injustified or bugged out IFS?
: > [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Y1wBpLte,comment-id=000300020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-10T13:27:12.086+0000) > > A reply which is going to be copy-pasta of "We know it's frustrating to get punished but our system is never wrong except for all the times it was and it was only resolved by Tantram chiming in on Boards". Yeah we've had that before. Many times. > > If this is bug with the system Tantram is more likely to know it than Support worker. well alrighty then keep trying your luck on the boards maybe 1 in a 100 gets the ray of attention from tantram
Which is still better than 0 in a 100 chance the support won't respond the way they always do and somehow will know to resolve something they are not specialists in.
FkValeRly (EUW)
: W max supp lux has a 62% wr in gold and plat omegalul
Which is in what way relevant? First of all, pickrate and sources matter. Second of all, we are not debating whether she is broken or not. I already said in my post W-max seems like prefered strategy in Resolve case, just pointing out that strategy isn't really so broad across most elos to be considered "lux supp does this". It's more like those who abuse Resolve Lux do that. Which is important to consider.
: > [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Y1wBpLte,comment-id=0003000200000000,timestamp=2019-06-10T13:04:05.846+0000) > > You realize that shows all the Rioters? Why would someone making splash arts, designing champions, leading their production or writing their stories respond in IFS topic? > > The reason Tantram doesn't show up often is because there's rarely valid issue. But when there is and it hits top, he responds, calling the OP out for lying, explaining bug or clearing the ban If it was not justified. > > Also, while not related to issue, he responded 2 months ago to one thread, so yeah he reads it when an query/issue shows up. It's good to try. so you are telling me that you want to try your luck with a rioter that may or may not respond instead of guaranteeing a reply within 24 hours?
A reply which is going to be copy-pasta of "We know it's frustrating to get punished but our system is never wrong except for all the times it was and it was only resolved by Tantram chiming in on Boards". Yeah we've had that before. Many times. If this is bug with the system Tantram is more likely to know it than Support worker.
: This is epic
: > [{quoted}](name=Academy Kayn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=3E8K4XYs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-10T05:51:21.807+0000) > > I get what you're saying, and you're hitting the point on the head. Design is not just what a character looks like, or if they're interesting or not. A boring looking character can be the best design in the world, if it gets across the fact that this character is a boring character. Design doesn't stop at the visual level, it transfers into their character, personality, the world they live in, everything. > > In the end, 'Boring design' is subjective. Bad and good design, is objective however, because you can easily make a character look opposite to who they are. A stick figure in a cowboy hat isn't descriptive, groundbreaking or anything special, but place them in a world of stick figures, and that cowboy hat tells you just who they are; A cowboy. They've gotten the point across to you who this character is, and what his place in the world is. I said when Qiyana came out, and people were talking about her hair, that I was going to wait on what her lore was, and I was right. > > Design isn't just what people see when they look at the character. It's all the things they can pick apart and inference from the character, how much they can tell you from what they are, just by looking at them. > > In fairness though, teasers are vague, and always leave things to the imagination for the audience. While I think it's okay to be disapointed it's not what someone thought it'd be, I think we need to be wary of shouting out bad design when it's not what we want. gonna be honest, now I'm wanting a character who's whole idea is that he is just your average guy who just happens to have horrible (or really great?) luck getting in and out of trouble
Well Twisted Fate should be that given his theme should be "luck of a draw".
: > [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Y1wBpLte,comment-id=00030002,timestamp=2019-06-10T12:43:54.419+0000) > > Riot Tantram: \*exists\* > PB boards user: Let me tell no Rioter comes here for 1000th time https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/redtracker mainly on game design topics when is the last time a support related topic was answered by a rioter?
You realize that shows all the Rioters? Why would someone making splash arts, designing champions, leading their production or writing their stories respond in IFS topic? The reason Tantram doesn't show up often is because there's rarely valid issue. But when there is and it hits top, he responds, calling the OP out for lying, explaining bug or clearing the ban If it was not justified. Also, while not related to issue, he responded 2 months ago to one thread, so yeah he reads it when an query/issue shows up. It's good to try.
Salron (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Rompepollo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uRjKIyUl,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2019-06-10T11:54:50.141+0000) > No lux is maxing w first. This is incorrect. She is maxing e then w. ? https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/99 Stop lying
https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/lux/support/gold https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/lux/support https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/lux/support/diamond https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/builds/lux/support/master According to League of Graphs, only in Master Also in your link I can't even see where it says W max first? Just randomly picked one game and it's E max first https://www.probuilds.net/guide/show/NA/3063117530/VuzlhGYphsTc5yUdm0WHj8L7a2skaL13YTIk7FSeBmyjodo It seems that W max is only thing with Resolve abuse build since this is the same player https://www.probuilds.net/guide/show/NA/3063111460/VuzlhGYphsTc5yUdm0WHj8L7a2skaL13YTIk7FSeBmyjodo Max W seems only with Resolve and that's only prevalent in much higher elo.
: support team exists: :Tumbleweed: players: lets post on the boards where rioters don't go and no help whatsoever can be given to them
Riot Tantram: \*exists\* PB boards user: Let me tell no Rioter comes here for 1000th time
AR URF (NA)
: Pyke should not be able to execute through shields.
But then it wouldn't be an execute. It ignoring shields is its point. It's not true damage per se, it's execute. It's just too high.
: Unsealed Spellbook in a nutshell
I need Riot to change the chat announcement to "By the way Urgot can burn you" and "By the way Urgot can teleport"
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