zoliking (NA)
: Riot strategy: The tourist-psycho-afk three gear.
>The tourist-psycho-afk three gear. One thing comes to mind: http://i.imgur.com/wEmVok8.jpg
ChiefDays (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=000000080000,timestamp=2018-11-17T10:17:53.592+0000) > > you can doubt all you want. it doesnt mean i don't or that im wrong > > {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} So people should be moderated because they push a lane? Either you have no clue what you're talking about or you have no common sense.
>So people should be moderated because they push a lane? Nice strawman
ChiefDays (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-16T11:12:19.596+0000) > > 1- if they farm the lane while you're still in it trying to last hit then it's reportable > > but if they do it while you're not in it, for the purpose of resetting the wave then it's what they're supposed to do. Technically it's what **you** were supposed to do before backing. > > 2- farming jungle as **any** role is **not against the rules** since your role as a jungler is _not just to farm_. also the buffs are not the sole property of the jungler Checking your op.gg I doubt you play jungle and I doubt you know any macros about that role. 1. "Farming" the lane is not punishable, in higher elo this happens all the time, when needed. If you kill the enemy laner and your laner seems like to want to back, you help them push, this does not only make the enemy lose exp from the pushing minions dying under the tower, but also avoids ganks from the enemy if your teammate stays to push and overextends. 2. I'd love to see a jungler 3 levels behind than the enemies'. There's a difference between farming and taking one camp, the latter should happen only when you know your jungler is unlikely going to take it(before a Baron/Drake/Objective contesting). But farming? If you literally mean farming, I wouldn't be surprised if your jungler starts screaming at you, not only you're making the jungler lose exp and smite power, but let's say you take all the camps of your jungler, what do you think they'd do? Sit in base? Well unfortunately it does happen but let's say they stay and what do they do next? Invade the enemy jungle. Now, this normally doesn't really happen in higher elo(people farming your jungler) but I've seen instances while smurfing that people consitenly stole camps, leading the their jungler to invade, overextend and get caught. You have one thing right though, it's not against the rules, farming the jungler camps that is. However don't expect the jungler to greet you afterwards.
>Checking your op.gg I doubt you play jungle and I doubt you know any macros about that role. you can doubt all you want. it doesnt mean i don't or that im wrong {{sticker:sg-ezreal}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OgGmiE3I,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2018-11-16T06:43:13.718+0000) > > "The lack of proof is proof that the proof exists" > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} > > Question: Did you order your tinfoil hat online or make it yourself between games? Man it's really fun to have someone stalking my comments and straight up lying. I never said or implied it was true. I merely stated that if it were, we wouldn't know. Then again, you've proven time and again you're just a troll.
>stalking my comments and straight up lying. {{champion:33}} ok
: ***
>But u won't cuz ur a bitch. my below the belt setup is neither here nor there
Medjuda (EUW)
: feelsgoodman
18 is not the lowest level i've seen a 2 week ban happen at tho
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=00000001000000000001,timestamp=2018-11-16T11:57:40.127+0000) > > says who? > > no really... > > where does it say that? I have smite. It can damage the buff. And can do more damage then any of ur other spells. To jungle camp. It is mine.
>I have smite. It can damage the buff. you should keep in mind that while smite stealing may grant you the buff, it will also antagonize the person you're stealing the buff from making them feel less inclined to help you in the future. {{sticker:katarina-love}} >And can do more damage then any of ur other spells. To jungle camp. It is mine. {{champion:20}} and {{champion:31}} disagree
: So what do I do when my adc gets toxic
if you reported him, odds are he will get a nice little ban for all that
: With how often this gets asked we should have this pinned lol
in lack of a pin, i made it so i can look it up with ease when copy+paste is needed
floo (EUW)
: Well it's not written down somewhere, but it's general knowledge that it helps them to clear camps and have an impact on multiple lanes, other than just 1 in particular. Also, if someone has a brain, they won't fight an adc or top with a red buff, obviously. So there it would just lose value.
that's not the same as "having priority" the other roles benefit from having the buffs in much the same ways
Rioter Comments
: I view it less as an eye for an eye... and more like what goes around comes around. If you are wanting to be a jerk, dont expect someone to be nice. Its just not gonna happen.
turning the other cheek can often do more damage than responding in kind
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-16T11:12:19.596+0000) > > 1- if they farm the lane while you're still in it trying to last hit then it's reportable > > but if they do it while you're not in it, for the purpose of resetting the wave then it's what they're supposed to do. Technically it's what **you** were supposed to do before backing. > > 2- farming jungle as **any** role is **not against the rules** since your role as a jungler is _not just to farm_. also the buffs are not the sole property of the jungler Farming a lane as a jungler isnt reportable or bannable get your pissy ass panties out of a wad.
it is if you're doing it just to sabotage the laner for your own amusement sorry to break it to you
Prozzak (NA)
: lol no, it isn't reportable and it isn't reportable if they take the jungles camps. Both are just dick moves. As a jungler the only time I do this is if: 1) I am heading to that camp and the player decides hey lets take this (yes even late game) while there is a wave in the lane right beside them that nobody is taking (just take the damn wave you don't deserve both). or 2) I will only take a lanes cs if they have been taking my jungle when I feel it is being a dick move. (or to push up/reset the lane). Its pretty simple in my eyes. Don't be a dick to me and I won't be one to you. Start cussing me out or taking my camps early game when I need them and I am going to get even via taking your lane. I'd rather not do the second one though because I would rather not have a tilted team.
"Granny Flash always said that problem with "an eye for an eye" is that in the end, everyone ends up blind." - Flash, "Justice League Unlimited ", _"Flashpoint"_
: Honestly, if they are on the other side of the map and going to gank like they should if the bott laner or top laner is pushed up to their own tower.... then it helps in 2 ways. 1) enemy jungler is more likely to invade that side, and therefore you will lose camps anyways. 2) it will be coming up around the time that you get to it anyways and it will be worth more gold generally too.
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Kei143 (NA)
: Hey hey.. CS and jg camps are all public property. No one owns them. JG can take CS if they want, but from a META standpoint, it's highly inadvisable to do so.
{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} technically you can take another lane's cs as long as you're not directly negating their current income. i mean... if your top laner is farming his lane and the jungler comes in and farms the wave too. it's legal, sure, but it sets your laner back and generates animosity between players that are supposed to see themselves as a team similarly, if you're a non jungle player and you're soloing a buff and the jungler comes by and smite-steals it away, again... he can do so but it has the same effect.
WøOxer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-16T12:21:05.669+0000) > > i said "you can". i didn't say "you should try it without trying it out first in bot games" > If you said I can play doesn't mean it's viable. > what was once viable, might still be. whose to say? > > i've actually tried it in the current season and it's not the worst Definitely not for you to dictate what is viable what is not.
>Definitely not for you to dictate what is viable what is not. right back at yah {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
WøOxer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-16T12:08:20.656+0000) > > playing bad =/= griefing > > and Tristana used to be viable in the jungle a while back in 2017 > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrWsjcC71zg If pro players or few high elo players succeed jungling her doesn't mean its meta and 100% viable jungle champ, you are so delusional. I am not talking what were viable, I am talking about current season, it was just an example anyway. You are trying to prove nothing, but I appreciate your trying but you did not succeed anyway.
>If pro players or few high elo players succeed jungling her doesn't mean its meta and 100% viable jungle champ, you are so delusional. i said "you can". i didn't say "you should try it without trying it out first in bot games" >I am not talking what were viable, I am talking about current season, it was just an example anyway. what was once viable, might still be. whose to say? i've actually tried it in the current season and it's not the worst
: Junglers cannot take CS from my lane (except incidentally while we're pushing) because while it is still *my* lane I need it to actually get gold. In late-game gold is up for anyone, as long as the relic shield support can still get their procs off. It's not *my* lane at that point, just as they're not *your* camps. I may ping you off of a large wave, but that's mostly if I'm already on my way and I need the gold more than you do (either due to a deficit on my end or due to me needing the wave to complete an item). But krugs at 30 minutes are free game, as are basically every camp (the only exception being that red and blue have to go to people that need them for the buffs). Yes, it's reportable for you to take my waves when it's still laning phase and I'm actually there and we're not deliberately pushing, **just as it's reportable if I intentionally take your camps in early game**. No, it's not reportable to take a camp in late-game when you don't reasonably have **time** to take every single one and I'm already there or need the gold for an item, just as it's not reportable for you to do the same to lane minions then.
>just as it's reportable if I intentionally take your camps in early game. No, it's not reportable to take a camp in late-game when you don't reasonably have time to take every single one and I'm already there or need the gold for an item, just as it's not reportable for you to do the same to lane minions then. also if i'm having a hard time csing in lane and the jungler is either unwilling to help or is better off helping another lane, it' perfectly ok to go get the wolves or crugs while waiting for the enemy wave to push into my tower so i can farm without being abused by the enemy
: > [{quoted}](name=Shinji lkari,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-16T11:48:19.255+0000) > > I get you. I main jungle and I can't tell you how many times I get people trolling me by stealing my camps, easiest and best way to troll a jungler you don't like. Jungler always gets priority over buffs until they no longer need it. Some refuse to understand but seeing others actually wanting to report junglers, aka the most difficult role in the game, is a damned joke. You can't even jungle without getting flamed and blamed most of your games, this is just probably another one of those flamer and blamers. I play jungle and mid. So dont give me that ''they dont understand us junglers'' I know full well what its like to get counter jungled and waste your time. I also play lane (which every jungler should do so they can actually be an effective jungler), and no the buffs belong to you if youre playing a jungler that really needs it or your lanes dont need it. Its beyond me that my mana intensive mid laners still get confused that a jungler is willing to give them blue when its 100 times more effective on them. Yeah playing high level jungle is the most difficult thing in the game, you need to know all lane match ups, all jungle match ups, how to counter jungle, when to counter gank when to match gank, how to play for the objectives, who to give buffs to or take them yourself, who to provide vision for etc. The reality is most of us dont know all this and dont play at that level.
>and no the buffs belong to you if youre playing a jungler that really needs it or your lanes dont need it. Its beyond me that my mana intensive mid laners still get confused that a jungler is willing to give them blue when its 100 times more effective on them. https://media.giphy.com/media/1Z02vuppxP1Pa/giphy.gif
WøOxer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-11-16T12:01:53.359+0000) > > playing "off meta" is not a valid reporting reason Why its not? It's griefing, he plays Tristana jungle, not a viable jungle champ goes 0/4/0 he is trolling Rito take ACTIONS PLEASE!
playing bad =/= griefing and Tristana used to be viable in the jungle a while back in 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrWsjcC71zg
WøOxer (EUW)
: So if I will play off meta Jungle champs or champs which are not recommended also I will get validated reports? This community is beyond dogshit then.
playing "off meta" is not a valid reporting reason
WøOxer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=0000000100000001,timestamp=2018-11-16T11:52:43.069+0000) > > it **doesn't** and you **don't have to** but it's highly recommended that you do so if winning the game a bit faster/at all is something you're interested in. the midlaner and adc generally benefit more from the buffs than if you just hoard them for yourself the whole game Highly recommended? What? Did you fell from the tree or what? I will ask you question did u even read the Summoners Code? You are typing non sense, completely.
>I will ask you question did u even read the Summoners Code? i did and nowhere does it say that the jungler is entitled to the jungle minions for the entirety of the game prove me wrong. i'll wait
: I get you. I main jungle and I can't tell you how many times I get people trolling me by stealing my camps, easiest and best way to troll a jungler you don't like. Jungler always gets priority over buffs until they no longer need it. Some refuse to understand but seeing others actually wanting to report junglers, aka the most difficult role in the game, is a damned joke. You can't even jungle without getting flamed and blamed most of your games, this is just probably another one of those flamer and blamers.
>Jungler always gets priority over buffs until they no longer need it. says who? no really... where does it say that?
WøOxer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-16T11:17:41.113+0000) > > it counts as griefing. there's a reason the report feature has a text box in it: so you can flag shit like this > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} > > tickets work too if you have time to spare Tickets? Report? I have tried to report via ticket couple players for kind of issues SO WHAT? Nothing happened for them, they are still in game and successfuly safely trolling around. There are limits which they didnt break thats all.
>I have tried to report via ticket couple players for kind of issues SO WHAT? >Nothing happened for them, they are still in game and successfuly safely trolling around. why is this anecdotal evidence relevant again?
WøOxer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Shinji lkari,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-11-16T11:25:19.104+0000) > Finally a player with brain. EDIT: That's how exactly how I feel as a jungler, mid laner asks for Buff, but I am behind in xp of opposite jungler, then mid laner gets mad that I took "HIS" blue and actually takes my other jungle camp to compensate his "lost" blue buff? Where it says in the rules I must give to the laner blue buff or red buff for adc? So I must report these players for griefing because they taking my jungles as well?
>Where it says in the rules I must give to the laner blue buff or red buff for adc? it **doesn't** and you **don't have to** but it's highly recommended that you do so if winning the game a bit faster/at all is something you're interested in. the midlaner and adc generally benefit more from the buffs than if you just hoard them for yourself the whole game
: Jungler can't take CS from your lane but you can take their jungle camps? You realize junglers need to farm things such as dark harvest right? While your lane infinitely gets minions, the jungler can get counter jungled (while you sit in your lane easy), needs to follow jungle paths to get maximum xp, and there is never a guarentee to get a kill when you gank depending on what trash is in the lane on your team. The fact that you are bothered by a jungler nabbing some CS before they go back to the jungle and think it's reportable over stealing jungle camps is a joke. It's not reportable and junglers may need to hit their next level before taking the LONG walk back to a camp to spend 5 billion years killing it. Christ what a horrible post. Most people don't even help the jungler in their own jungle and now they're too greedy to give up some cs. your job as a laner isn't just to farm either.
>Jungler can't take CS from your lane but you can take their jungle camps? https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTx9c3h5z19AiFkuk0UskiKtR1OgeWT66-8Cl3MCwGsJVXtkL9HoQ
WøOxer (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=TmEk1qLy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-16T11:12:19.596+0000) > > 1- if they farm the lane while you're still in it trying to last hit then it's reportable > > but if they do it while you're not in it, for the purpose of resetting the wave then it's what they're supposed to do. Technically it's what **you** were supposed to do before backing. > > 2- farming jungle as **any** role is **not against the rules** since your role as a jungler is _not just to farm_ Reportable? And who reviews these reports? You? My mom? My dog? U wot mate, its not even reportable, nothing you can do.
it counts as griefing. there's a reason the report feature has a text box in it: so you can flag shit like this {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} tickets work too if you have time to spare
: Why do junglers do this?
1- if they farm the lane while you're still in it trying to last hit then it's reportable but if they do it while you're not in it, for the purpose of resetting the wave then it's what they're supposed to do. Technically it's what **you** were supposed to do before backing. 2- farming jungle as **any** role is **not against the rules** since your role as a jungler is _not just to farm_. also the buffs are not the sole property of the jungler
: Someone got sent to jail for kys ... In the states. Might want to adjust to the times friend.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfcub2000,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OgGmiE3I,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-16T04:17:44.758+0000) > > "Over the last weeks and months, we’ve heard your feedback that it feels rough to be knocked down to Honor 0 or 1 by a chat restriction in the closing days of the season" > > https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/TGYs0hwO-2018-end-of-season-rewards-and-honor > > Paragraph 2. They said it was due to the feedback they got. Thus, it is because of the players. > > Have any other arguements that need squashed about it? Aye, there's the evidence you should've put in your first response. Then again, that isn't evidence against my point. They still didn't say it wasn't because of Tyler1, which was your whole argument-- that they didn't explicitly state it _was._ Either way, there's no need for you to be a donkey about it.
>They still didn't say it wasn't because of Tyler1 Just like they didn't say it wasn't because Phreak saw the Detective Pikachu trailer You're right! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: > [{quoted}](name=dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=OgGmiE3I,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-16T03:25:57.010+0000) > > Did they say somewhere this has anything at all to do with T1? They wouldn't be able to, since it'd make more problems for them. There's a lot they can't or shouldn't say directly.
>They wouldn't be able to, since it'd make more problems for them. >There's a lot they can't or shouldn't say directly. "The lack of proof is proof that the proof exists" {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Question: Did you order your tinfoil hat online or make it yourself between games?
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pEBERtAx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-15T16:38:42.932+0000) > > Please tell me how retaliating will make things better instead of worse because of the added drama > > Ill wait That argument is as valid as me saying "Whats the point in flaming" yet it happens anyways and either ways. Or practically someone robbing you point blank and you just staring at them while they do so. Kind of dumb. > Yeah dude > > You're literally the only one playing the game > > There's literly no way we could possibly know what you have to deal with > > {{sticker:sg-lulu}} > Your sarcasm is so cool, I want to be just like you.. Oh wait, no I don't. Clearly SOME people don't deal with this at all or really, considering the people who just plays bot games fyi. > /s > > It doesn't matter who started it or who said worse things. > > Someone else being toxic "first" does not mean its ok for you to be toxic too. It's literally a kindergarden lesson. No really? Isn't that why I stated in the BEGINNING of my paragraph, "Just gonna say blah blah I know the rules about retaliation and whatever stupid "trash code" this trash game makes you agree on". LITERALLY point blank right there.
>Or practically someone robbing you point blank and you just staring at them while they do so. Kind of dumb. yes. this comparison is really really dumb i'm glad you agree {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: <removed by moderation> af
>You guys expect some of us people to just be able to deal with not saying sh-t to these immature dumbass kids who grief and follows you around jungle and BLAMES jungle for their own pathetic failure in the game and probably in life too. Please tell me how retaliating will make things better instead of worse because of the added drama Ill wait >But honestly have no damn idea how frustrating and infuriating it is to deal with this type of dumbass. Yeah dude You're literally the only one playing the game There's literly no way we could possibly know what you have to deal with {{sticker:sg-lulu}} /s >This trash ass company needs to learn to weigh the differences in what was said. Some people aren't just toxic for no reason or flame and some do, in this case I was completely calm until this retard started to talk like he was anything more useful. It doesn't matter who started it or who said worse things. Someone else being toxic "first" does not mean its ok for you to be toxic too. It's literally a kindergarden lesson.
ChiefDays (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Brfqzhd7,comment-id=00000003000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-15T15:22:09.132+0000) > > why not? > > riot makes rule > > riot nforms player that breaking rule generates a punishment > > player agrees to the rule and the punishment by ticking the &quot;i agree to the ToU&quot; box > > player plays the game > > player breaks rule > > player is punished > > what is the problem? > > *clears throat* > > {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} > One because I called out someone for being boosted, secondly because I said:&quot;Just report him&quot; after one of my teammates said:&quot;Wtf is this Veigar doing&quot; - The veigar was my support and went to other lanes to steal farm and INTENTIONALLY FEED the enemy laners. > > https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/811NH41orTL.png > ChiefDays: is trash > ChiefDays: you0&#x27;re > ChiefDays: a > ChiefDays: monkey > ChiefDays: and get carried > ChiefDays: 153 cs > ChiefDays: 4/1 > ChiefDays: vs > ChiefDays: 0/4 > ChiefDays: 125cs > ChiefDays: dont deserve > ChiefDays: a single lp > ChiefDays: 0/8 botlane > ChiefDays: laughable > ChiefDays: soraka > ChiefDays: you&#x27;re useless > ChiefDays: why even talk > ChiefDays: go next > ChiefDays: please > ChiefDays: I lost enough brain cells > ChiefDays: 1/5 > ChiefDays: don&#x27;t deserve > ChiefDays: to be carried > ChiefDays: y > ChiefDays: you&#x27;re > ChiefDays: 1/9 > ChiefDays: botlane > ChiefDays: soraka > ChiefDays: stop getting boosted > ChiefDays: to plat > ChiefDays: it&#x27;s ugly > ChiefDays: please > ChiefDays: HAHAHAHAHAHA > ChiefDays: unlucky bot and mid > ChiefDays: lmfao > Post-Game > ChiefDays: Soraka > ChiefDays: stop eloboosting > ChiefDays: it&#x27;s ugly > ChiefDays: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA > ChiefDays: YOU&#x27;RE > ChiefDays: LEGIT > ChiefDays: BOOSTED > ChiefDays: HAHAHAHAHAHA > ChiefDays: LOOK AT YOUR RANK CHART > ChiefDays: FROM G2 > ChiefDays: TO P4 > ChiefDays: AND NOW NOT PLAYING ANYMORE > ChiefDays: HAHAHAHAHAHAH > ChiefDays: Holy > ChiefDays: shit > ChiefDays: Soraka > ChiefDays: Stop > ChiefDays: buiying > ChiefDays: ranks > ChiefDays: holy > ChiefDays: shit > ChiefDays: Cause > ChiefDays: you&#x27;re > ChiefDays: a > ChiefDays: bgoosted > ChiefDays: animal > ChiefDays: with this vayne > ChiefDays: Spend your money on something you can actually gain from > ChiefDays: Getting a rank > ChiefDays: and then still having mechanics > ChiefDays: of a silver > ChiefDays: LOL > ChiefDays: I&#x27;m not even a kindred main > ChiefDays: Check my op.gg > ChiefDays: Bro > ChiefDays: you&#x27;re > ChiefDays: boosted > ChiefDays: That&#x27;s beyong being shit > ChiefDays: shet > ChiefDays: ?????? > ChiefDays: Speak English > ChiefDays: I&#x27;m done > ChiefDays: thanks for the laughs > ChiefDays: lmfao > ChiefDays: Legit boosted > > https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/811NH41orTL.png > ChiefDays: jusst report him > ChiefDays: why would > ChiefDays: I > ChiefDays: save > ChiefDays: you > ChiefDays: ù > ChiefDays: just > ChiefDays: ignore > ChiefDays: him > ChiefDays: ty > > you&#x27;re as abnoxious as they come, aren&#x27;t cha? You don't get my point, don't you? If Riot wants player to stop being toxic, they should make it so it's possible to redeem themselves, accordingly to the severity of the punishment they issued. I'm saying that the current moderation system is a joke, a 10 games chat restriction is barely a warning yet ruins all your ranked career if you're unlucky enough to get it on the wrong time. This, is very unhealthy. Both for the community and the game. Why? Because it doesn't motivate you to play positively, it just makes you think that there are trollers who get away with their ban yet you get a chat restriction over something of small scale. I still believe the player I called out in game 1 is boosted anyways, not sure if Riot banned them yet. Now in my opinion: Did I deserve the chat restriction? Yes, I did. Even though game 2 had no reason to be cited since I find it really dumb to believe that's considered "harassment". Did I deserve to lose my ranked rewards? Yes and no, they should make skins be optional, even though honestly, I must say that I was never crazy about those Victorious skins but denying the profile banner, that I worked all season long, just makes no sense. How does honor represent your skill in game? And for instance, before I my first chat moderation I was level 4 honor. Just one bad game and boom, I'm the most toxic person ever on everyone's eyes. Did it make me want to quit the game? Definitely, there's nothing worse than wasting your time and not even having that satisfication of getting a reward for all your efforts and time spent on the game.
>You don't get my point, **do** you? FTFY >If Riot wants player to stop being toxic, they should make it so it's possible to redeem themselves, accordingly to the severity of the punishment they issued. https://i.imgflip.com/2mmzs7.jpg >I'm saying that the current moderation system is a joke, a 10 games chat restriction is barely a warning yet ruins all your ranked career if you're unlucky enough to get it on the wrong time. The reason for getting it is that you were toxic. There's a simple way to remove this problem: *whispers* don't be toxic! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}} >This, is very unhealthy. Both for the community and the game. Why? Because it doesn't motivate you to play positively, it just makes you think that there are trollers who get away with their ban yet you get a chat restriction over something of small scale. What makes you think that "the other guy" didnt get a chat restriction too? > I still believe the player I called out in game 1 is boosted anyways, not sure if Riot banned them yet. She's boosted... Because of a bad game? >Now in my opinion: Did I deserve the chat restriction? Yes, I did. Even though game 2 had no reason to be cited since I find it really dumb to believe that's considered "harassment". And yet it is. Your opinion on wether or not it should be doesn't change how reality works >Did I deserve to lose my ranked rewards? Yes and no, https://i.imgflip.com/1tr0gz.jpg > they should make skins be optional, even though honestly, I must say that I was never crazy about those Victorious skins but denying the profile banner, that I worked all season long, just makes no sense. How does honor represent your skill in game? League is a teamwork based game and you get honored by being a good teammate. {{sticker:sg-lulu}} >And for instance, before I my first chat moderation I was level 4 honor. Just one bad game and boom, I'm the most toxic person ever on everyone's eyes. Everyone has bad games. The difference is in the way we react to them. You chose the keyboard warrior way so you get the stick, while others chose the ignore option via the mute button so they get cookies. >Did it make me want to quit the game? Definitely After reading that log, I have two words for you: "God speed!" >there's nothing worse than wasting your time and not even having that satisfication of getting a reward for all your efforts and time spent on the game. Somewhere along the way, you seem to have forgotten that it's just a game so your "reward" for the time spent are the fond memories you made. That's enough for most people who leave a game behind. Why not you as well?
Voldymort (EUNE)
: just because crime is bad, it doesn't mean that the justice system is useless riot is doing the best they can but you have to realise that it's like fighting a Hydra: chop off one head and 3 more sprout from the hole
>so i tend to make a small point into an essay, but i mean the same thing. please understand I do that too {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: if thats what u got to say, please leave this post alone. this is not for "so what?" this is about "toxicity is bad and its not being controlled as much" thanks for your participation.{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
just because crime is bad, it doesn't mean that the justice system is useless riot is doing the best they can but you have to realise that it's like fighting a Hydra: chop off one head and 3 more sprout from the hole
floo (EUW)
: Boi u quick
that's what she said
: that could be very true. and its also possible i got unlucky and took the brunt of euw toxic players, while not encountering as many in na. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
>and its also possible i got unlucky and took the brunt of euw toxic players, while not encountering as many in na. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: was there a gap this large between the times you met them? i said the gap was less than a week. that could be them playing more games and clearing their penalty, sure, but back to the main topic of this whole post... I encountered much more negative players in euw in a year than over 3 years in na.
>I encountered much more negative players in euw in a year than over 3 years in na. so what? it doesn't automatically mean that there are more on euw. maybe you just met more by being unlucky
ChiefDays (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Brfqzhd7,comment-id=000000030000,timestamp=2018-11-15T14:45:09.262+0000) > > did i stutter? > > {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} > > yes. easy! > > been there done that. it&#x27;s easy when your skin is thick enough ;) > > unless you live in a world where every bad deed is ignored and you face no consequences for it just because you&#x27;ve been a saint the rest of the time, that seems pretty darn accurate > > i think you missunderstand just how much of a playerbase this game has. compared to the vast majority of the players, the numbers who post on these forums are an insignificant ammount > > {{sticker:sg-lulu}} The problem is not that the punishment should not be issued. The problem is that people would not want to "Reform", simply because they already know they won't make it for the rewards. For instance, I got a chat restriction 1 month before season ended, even riot said my honor was unlikely going back in time, and knowing that honor was going to reset anyways, I quit the game for several days. I came back because back then, I was on a huge winning streak and very close to Diamond, but if I wasn't motivated because of my winning streak, I would've quit this game long ago. The reason I got moderated for was also very silly: One because I called out someone for being boosted, secondly because I said:"Just report him" after one of my teammates said:"Wtf is this Veigar doing" - The veigar was my support and went to other lanes to steal farm and INTENTIONALLY FEED the enemy laners. Because oh my god, I harassed the Veigar for telling people to report them, I MEAN. Oh my god how could I? In response to those 2 "violations" I got a 10 games chat restriction, the probably lowest and least harsh out of all the moderations. But, the problem is here. If I had atleast 1 extra month, I could've gotten back my honor. But no, it wouldn't be Riot Games if they knew about this and allowed people to "reform" in time. That's how you get a toxic community, that moderation didn't even make me want OR make me try to reform, I got more toxic overall.
>The problem is not that the punishment should not be issued. why not? riot makes rule riot nforms player that breaking rule generates a punishment player agrees to the rule and the punishment by ticking the "i agree to the ToU" box player plays the game player breaks rule player is punished what is the problem? >The problem is that people would not want to "Reform", simply because they already know they won't make it for the rewards. *clears throat* > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dbUT5c0G,comment-id=00020001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-01T08:36:50.663+0000) > > _**if you are only interested in being a decent human being just for the rewards then you don&#x27;t deserve them in the first place**_ {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}} >The reason I got moderated for was also very silly: One because I called out someone for being boosted, secondly because I said:"Just report him" after one of my teammates said:"Wtf is this Veigar doing" - The veigar was my support and went to other lanes to steal farm and INTENTIONALLY FEED the enemy laners. >In response to those 2 "violations" I got a 10 games chat restriction, >_**those 2 "violations"**_ https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/811NH41orTL.png >ChiefDays: this ekko ChiefDays: is trash ChiefDays: you0're ChiefDays: a ChiefDays: monkey >ChiefDays: shut up ChiefDays: and get carried ChiefDays: 153 cs ChiefDays: 4/1 ChiefDays: vs ChiefDays: 0/4 ChiefDays: 125cs >ChiefDays: those animals ChiefDays: dont deserve ChiefDays: a single lp ChiefDays: 0/8 botlane ChiefDays: laughable ChiefDays: soraka ChiefDays: you're useless ChiefDays: why even talk ChiefDays: go next ChiefDays: please ChiefDays: I lost enough brain cells ChiefDays: 1/5 ChiefDays: don't deserve ChiefDays: to be carried ChiefDays: y ChiefDays: you're ChiefDays: 1/9 ChiefDays: botlane ChiefDays: soraka ChiefDays: stop getting boosted ChiefDays: to plat ChiefDays: it's ugly ChiefDays: please ChiefDays: HAHAHAHAHAHA ChiefDays: unlucky bot and mid ChiefDays: lmfao Post-Game ChiefDays: Soraka ChiefDays: stop eloboosting ChiefDays: it's ugly ChiefDays: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA ChiefDays: YOU'RE ChiefDays: LEGIT ChiefDays: BOOSTED ChiefDays: HAHAHAHAHAHA ChiefDays: LOOK AT YOUR RANK CHART ChiefDays: FROM G2 ChiefDays: TO P4 ChiefDays: AND NOW NOT PLAYING ANYMORE ChiefDays: HAHAHAHAHAHAH ChiefDays: Holy ChiefDays: shit ChiefDays: Soraka ChiefDays: Stop ChiefDays: buiying ChiefDays: ranks ChiefDays: holy ChiefDays: shit ChiefDays: Cause ChiefDays: you're ChiefDays: a ChiefDays: bgoosted ChiefDays: animal ChiefDays: with this vayne ChiefDays: Spend your money on something you can actually gain from ChiefDays: Getting a rank ChiefDays: and then still having mechanics ChiefDays: of a silver ChiefDays: LOL ChiefDays: I'm not even a kindred main ChiefDays: Check my op.gg ChiefDays: Bro ChiefDays: you're ChiefDays: boosted ChiefDays: That's beyong being shit ChiefDays: shet ChiefDays: ?????? ChiefDays: Speak English ChiefDays: I'm done ChiefDays: thanks for the laughs ChiefDays: lmfao ChiefDays: Legit boosted https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/811NH41orTL.png >ChiefDays: he's trash ChiefDays: jusst report him >ChiefDays: 0/7 ChiefDays: why would ChiefDays: I ChiefDays: save ChiefDays: you ChiefDays: ù ChiefDays: just ChiefDays: ignore ChiefDays: him >ChiefDays: just report veigar ChiefDays: ty you're as abnoxious as they come, aren't cha?
: i said "they were toxic in chat AGAIN" meaning they CAN type more than what chat restriction allows, i am starting to think you just want to pick one point while ignoring other from my post {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
>i said "they were toxic in chat AGAIN" meaning they CAN type more than what chat restriction allows, the chat restriction only works for 10 games or 25 games, depending on which one they got. was there a gap this large between the times you met them? >i am starting to think you just want to pick one point while ignoring other from my post im not ignoring the others. im just adressing the ones that are illogical
: So how would you explain me not getting any punishment in euw, but getting chat restricted just after 3 games in na?
maybe your teams didn't bother with reporting you in euw it's an explanation just as plausible as the one you came up with: that rioters are somehow more lenient on euw than na just because you couldn't think of a better explanation, it doesn't mean that yours is the only one "it could be"
: yes, so players appearing after their bad behavior and being reported, and then being toxic again means they did not get chat ristricted.
>yes, so players appearing after their bad behavior and being reported, and then being toxic again means they did not get chat ristricted. https://media.giphy.com/media/l3q2K5jinAlChoCLS/giphy.gif being chat restricted doesn't prevent you from playing the game {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: and yes i tested it, and euw rioters are less likely to punish a flaming person than in na, how exactly did you "test" it? please read my whole post, i explained it. {{sticker:fiora-cool}}
>please read my whole post, i explained it. i did >So i decided to do a little test, logged into my NA account and started arguing with anyone who was toxic or bad mannered in my games and boom, 3 games later i got a chat restriction, tried doing same in EUW with very similar behavior and sentences and no punishment whatsoever. (did this for 10 games straight) >I also reported the toxic players, in NA 3/6 reports were punished and i got a message (player you reported was confirmed toxic and punished etc.) Now in EUW no feedback from riot (even IF they punished them that is). the problem with your "test" is that those notifications don't always occur. it's intentionally setup that way so that people can't reverse engineer what words and phrases get people banned http://www.quickmeme.com/img/81/81a797730f10ca7ca92d0ed151bdb690994ccfe2a7247b7afccd6dcc1ed4c446.jpg
: I wrote down names of toxic players, and couple of them did appear in a week's span.
: One, I'm not lying, i created this post due to months of frustration which came from the behavior of my teammates in euw and yes i tested it, and euw rioters are less likely to punish a flaming person than in na, second, i have been in games where players write entire sentences full of curses, negative and racial slurs. and saw some of the same players few days later doing same toxic stuff. that did not happen in na.
>and yes i tested it, and euw rioters are less likely to punish a flaming person than in na, how exactly did you "test" it? >and saw some of the same players few days later doing same toxic stuff. unless they were in your friends list and you got to play with them again by invite, you are lying there are quite simply too many players in low elo to encounter the same ones "a few days later" next game? sure. it happens. but a few days later? cmon...
ChiefDays (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Brfqzhd7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-12T10:35:40.994+0000) > > you realise everyone starts at honor 2, right? > > literally all you have to do to ensure getting season rewards is not be a dick to anyone. which is obscenely easy to do "Easy"? Say that when you play over 800 ranked games, constantly getting low tempered teammates, flaming you once is fine, you just go on and don't mind but game after game, constantly getting flamed, it gets hard to keep your cool. And as a human being, it's incredibly hard to do that when you have a bad day. It's just a joke, this system is bullshit, all those efforts committed to get your best rank only to figure out that in **ONE** of those 800 games made the other 799 a waste of time. If anything, there's one thing that's for sure for next season. And that is that I won't be committing so much of my time trying to grind my ass off just to be ripped off at the end of the season with a non-sense moderation. There's just no good aspects about the honor system. Just look on this forum, so many people complaining about the honor system, yet Riot doesn't do anything but memes at you with the -5 MS **BALANCE** updates. The funny thing is, they already made it "easier" to climb it out, however it's as meme-able as the .25 CD Zoe meme & Irelia -5MS.
>"Easy"? did i stutter? {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} yes. easy! > Say that when you play over 800 ranked games, constantly getting low tempered teammates, flaming you once is fine, you just go on and don't mind but game after game, constantly getting flamed, been there done that. it's easy when your skin is thick enough ;) >all those efforts committed to get your best rank only to figure out that in ONE of those 800 games made the other 799 a waste of time. unless you live in a world where every bad deed is ignored and you face no consequences for it just because you've been a saint the rest of the time, that seems pretty darn accurate > Just look on this forum, so many people complaining about the honor system i think you missunderstand just how much of a playerbase this game has. compared to the vast majority of the players, the numbers who post on these forums are an insignificant ammount {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
: Beam yourself with that happy ray and move on.
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