: I mean Talon doesn't show much emotion the only type of emote he could have would be "calm and collected" which sounds boring
> [{quoted}](name=The Volcano,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0rnhjTbV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-24T18:50:32.840+0000) > > I mean Talon doesn't show much emotion the only type of emote he could have would be "calm and collected" which sounds boring which make a good emote to show you calm and anti-tilt.
: Voli is more deserving But he most definitely will get some when he's reworked after Pantheon
> [{quoted}](name=Keiski,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0rnhjTbV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-24T17:39:00.022+0000) > > Voli is more deserving > > But he most definitely will get some when he's reworked after Pantheon It's not about who's deserving. It's not a contest, it's a simple emote and every champ should have one.
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: There's more than a few people who are wukong OTP who made it to masters+ Im pretty sure you can reliably climb with him, that is of you're good of course. Which brings me back to my original point, skill>pick in 90% of the game's ELO excluding some REALLLY extreme cases of OP or UP champs, wukong isnt one of them.
you mean harambe which has like 2-3 accounts? sure.
Poske (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=JackMcSnipeyz,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TIlbMziM,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-10-20T11:26:12.110+0000) > > Which champ do you play you think prevents you from climbing? Honestly curious Checked his OP.GG He should Stop building Crit on everything His most played champ is really really weak (wukong) His second most played champion is in good state tho
I'm building crit just to test different builds with runes etc. Wukong is gutted beyond belief, even if you go full AD you wont 1shot any squishy thats got a decent support around them [unless you're super fed which happens rarely]. and if they build tabis? you'll probably deal 50-60% dmg
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Ahris (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=She Was A Virgin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EeON8g7t,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-09-12T19:10:52.041+0000) > > We wukong mains dont want a buff, we want the xin treatment Xin treatment would mean u guys need to wait a while.
For how long? twtch harambe quit the game because Wu is no longer playable in high elo. and he's one of top 3 Wu mains in the world. all of us gotta quit so he becomes RIP then they think about their "priorities" which is the most bullshit term i've heard so far in this game.
: You might be up next if the Ez small rework thing works and receives tons of praise. They did (might have, I totally forgot the wording and forgot what post it was on) mention Wu would likely be next if this works out.
So why does Wukong have to be bound by other champ's rework success? what if Ez rew doesnt work? game over?
: "quality of life change" when this is straight up a buff, not making Wukong more interessant to play as or against. In fact it would remove his auto attack reset, which is one of the only things that adds skill to wukong (and this is not even that hard.) His armor reduction could be swapped to his E, but then again his Q would be worthless.
His "AA reset" will still be there, but it will vary based on playstyle, it will only [Q] apply first if you press it pre dashing [E], but if u want the normal combo [E]-AA-[Q] then u can normally do it
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: August 29
@MEDDLER, I've recently read Reav3's comment regarding Wukong and he won't get any updates because the Chinese playerbase like him the way he is. doesn't this contradict with your game design and philosophy regarding outdated champions> and why wukong out of all champs wont get touched because of popularity in china? almost all champs are getting reworked/updated, but not the monkey, and when will he get a reliable passive if not gonna get reworked?
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: For climbing he is not a good idea in his current state..
Yeah if you keep playing him the same, he's garbage, but try to be creative. at least try the buildpath
: Do you actually need to finish warrior? I think i saw a wukong just get the basic part and then go straight for lethality into stormrazor. And triforce is more of a duelist thing i think.....not sure if you should actually finish it anytime before 5th or 6th slot.
Yeah, finish warrior or you will lose a lot of gold while trying to finish your first item. and TrinityF is a must in my build, because it works well with Duskblade, DH, and the Q.
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Thimes (EUW)
: He needs no buffs, at least not so early after nerfs when no one know if he will stabilize or not.
He does not need to stabilize, he needs to be reworked, specially the Passive.
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: Can't believe you actually just called {{champion:62}} weak and {{champion:64}} strong lmao http://euw.op.gg/statistics/champion/
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: {{champion:121}} {{item:3147}} {{champion:63}} {{item:3151}} {{champion:202}} {{item:3095}} {{champion:86}} {{item:3083}} {{champion:36}} {{item:3065}} {{champion:74}} {{item:2053}} {{champion:24}} {{item:3124}} {{champion:10}} {{item:3091}} +{{item:3071}} {{champion:75}} {{item:3072}} {{champion:61}} {{item:3115}} {{item:3046}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:223}} {{item:3748}} a lot of champs have passives that are really similar to items.
I like the fact that people like you are comparing which is similar to what, and dont get the point of the thread to begin with. If the design team can change yasuo's passive since it's not relevant anymore, then why do they keep wukong's passive the way it is? get the point?
FilDaFunk (EUW)
: TBH, they could just remove that part of Yasuo's passive.
: Where did you see that the design team is thinking about changing yasuo passive?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXAJrB3yNZk 2:29 confirms Riotblaustoise saying they will likely do larger changes.
Boreto (EUNE)
: The reason here is the same just like with lux kata having 10+ skins popularity of certain champions make riot change those popular ones while champs like wu urgot stay the same.
but then again, they're Just professional when it comes to money making strategies, that's all, which have always lead to the fall of even greater companies.
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: i mean he is cool design overall, but assassins cant be supports, every pyke i seen just gets fed goes in an gets exploded before doing anything meaningful, like you cant have a guy with barely any health engaging fights for you. but his kit and cc is pretty cool and things he can do is good, when not exploded instantly lol. i feel he needs a new passive not being able to build any health makes him squishy an useless, but at sametime tank pyke would be fucking broken. like a thresh with stealth and ult that executes an gives carrys bonus gold.
Exactly. What's the point of not being able to build more HP and get more ad if the scaling is terrible? + It's not easy to land those skillshots and pray your team deals enough damage so you can execute someone
: new champs take a while for people to learn them.. and they also have an absurdly high play-rate consisting of mostly players who have never played them. therefore... if a champ has a very high pickrate and about 80% of the people picking said champ have never played it. if said champ actually HAD a 50% winrate.. it would mean a bunch of idiots who have no idea how to play the champ can stand up even against people on their mains. which would mean such a champ would be absurdly broken. once playrate goes down, and once people LEARN how to play him.. his winrate will rise.. he isn't "bad" at all
Remember when eve was reworked into a completely new assassin? Highest pick and win ratio. I can't wait till some famous pro player claims he's weak then everyone is agreeing with him.
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: June 1
@meddler, when can we expect a serious talk about Wukong's passive/mini-rework?
: Against live players, he struggles. I feel like he can't really do well as a support because his dash is incredibly telegraphed and easily avoided - they simply sidestep and they're out of it. His yank, again, is super telegraphed, and his hook is really only minorly effective as a quick hit slow. I don't think he can do a lot to add pressure to a lane as a support through damage alone, nor can he effectively CC people, which leads him to feeling bleh. It also doesn't help that his visual radius for his camo is about the same distance he can dash, which means that you're not catching anyone by surprise by using E out of stealth. It all translates into a pretty lackluster champ who just feels like a tag-along-tertiary-carry.
So far I've been playing him in the jungle. He has Terrible scaling on his spells with high CD, his clear is slow, he has CC but both are skill shots that need lots of practice to be able to land. And to me his major problem is the {W} stealth radius, its not fair and assassin is easily detected from a high radius, yet an ADC like twitch can have a better stealth.
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 9
@Meddler, a Wukong post was made last month, and RiotRepertoir confirmed that Wukong is on a list of Champions that might receive a mini-rework similar to {{champion:5}}'s. Can we get an idea of what are the champs in that list, and if Wukong is currently being worked on or has high priority compared to others?
Rhyvin (NA)
: Another yi skin?
: > [{quoted}](name=Shaykh al Jabal,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5etkz0Nw,comment-id=001b0003,timestamp=2017-05-07T05:49:05.869+0000) > > As a compensation we want " Sandstorm Malzahar" skin with Sand effects! > gimme gimme But shadow prince is basically prince of persia...
I'm more into Arabia than persia.
: No, you don't have to. Stick to one big thread instead of a million small ones, because that's just spamming. With this there comes a neat little button on the bottom right corner of each OP I can press to flag it for that.
I'd like to see where exactly is that big thread you talking about
: to be fair he was the worst before as well.
No he didn't suck before, he was just underperforming yeah I get it, but he was good in the right hands. I personally enjoyed playing him, I knew I was safe with his old passive and the more you duel the more AS you get. now you need to hit your whole damn spells, AA 6 times to activate a shitty AD and AS steroid that you lose in 4.
: > [{quoted}](name=SynGaren,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cEH6rTET,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-31T19:17:23.051+0000) > > wait until you meet a full lethality {{champion:62}} who wins lane gets level 11 and proceeds to literally insta-gib your entire team with one ult. wukong cant win lanes for his life... {{champion:122}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:27}} any freaking tank in the game
The point of lethality is early game buff and wukong got his Q "shreds armor" which makes him give less shit about your armor. but yea he's countered by HP later on.

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