Rioter Comments
: is kha zix gonna get a nerf someday??
Nah it's all fun getting 1shot by underfed kha with 1 item when i got 2-3 items. counterplay 10/10 btw @Sewer Side who groups pre 10 mins?
FireDrizzle (EUNE)
: If Certainlyt is making a new champ
For every new CertainlyT champion just give +1 ban. His design ideas are cool but at the same time toxic for the game. If rito gems is banning for negative attitude/toxic behaviour when players do something same should apply to guys like CT that pour the game with toxic stuff.
: Sometimes, I wonder why Rioters no longer respond to us, but the answer has become more apparent.
Welp they don't even have to respond on here or reddit since that's just a massive minority of the game population it's a waste of time from their point of view. They should make the Riot -> Playerbase -> Riot connection a real thing not just ignoring the feedback because they gave us no real way to communicate with them.
wolf jade (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=WoodenCreature,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sf3sAdpE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-12-20T11:09:57.148+0000) > > Sejuani cannot pop off yasuo can. I wont take the 0.000000001% of yasuo not feeding. No ty
> [{quoted}](name=wolf jade,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sf3sAdpE,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2018-12-20T11:15:17.113+0000) > > I wont take the 0.000000001% of yasuo not feeding. No ty When it comes to yasuo no one is ever feeding it's always the yasuo i bet u woudnt feel good if you were flamed 24/7 getting your champ banned yasuos play bad because of how fucked the players in this game are.
: i would rather see a feeding sejuani than feeding yasuo. simply a feeding yasuo is irritant to the eye.
> [{quoted}](name=Wizard Blaze,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sf3sAdpE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-20T11:06:14.709+0000) > > i would rather see a feeding sejuani than feeding yasuo. simply a feeding yasuo is irritant to the eye. Sejuani cannot pop off yasuo can.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Jeddite,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iEBklaWn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-13T17:26:10.905+0000) > > Too bad it isn't true --- League would be more enjoyable within one patch. According to Fox News , It's true. "A number of games, which include major esports titles such as League of Legends (LoL), Overwatch, PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds (PUBG), and Fortnite: Battle Royale among others, have reportedly been banned in China after they were found to have violated the country’s social and ethical rules. The bans come following the establishment of the Online Ethics Review Committee by the Chinese government earlier this month. The committee was tasked with reviewing online games in order to establish whether they violate the country’s social and ethical rules or not. There were 20 popular online games that were reportedly included in the first wave of reviews. Out of that number, 11 were made to take corrective action to address the committee’s concerns. LoL is joined by several games developed by Blizzard Entertainment, including Overwatch, Diablo, and World of Warcraft (WoW), among the group of games that needed to take “corrective action.” According to a Reddit thread that translated the results of the review process, LoL was banned because it featured “overly revealing female characters” and an “inharmonious chatroom.” According to the user who posted the thread, “Inharmonious chat” refers to the perceived lack of effort by publishers to combat toxicity, vulgarity, and politically sensitive speech in chats. Overwatch, Diablo, and WoW were all found to have ‘inharmonious’ chat environments as well. Overwatch was also blasted for showing “game visuals [that] promote incorrect values,” while the missions in Diablo’s story mode were found to “include fraud.” Nine other games in the list failed the review entirely however and now seem to have been outright banned in China. Most of those games are battle royales such as PUBG, Fortnite, H1Z1, and Ring of Elysium. All were banned for featuring “blood and gore.” It is interesting to note that Fortnite’s cartoonish visual themes is famously devoid of any blood and gore effects. This may signal that China is not after the violence depicted in these games, but is instead targeting the battle royale genre altogether. A hero-centric shooter game similar to Overwatch, Paladins, was also banned for showing “overly revealing female characters, blood and gore, and vulgar content.” As with Fortnite, Paladins also lacked explicit displays of blood effects. This is interesting to note in comparison to Overwatch, which features blood effects to some degree, but was only cited for “visuals [that] promote incorrect values.” It is still unclear as to what those incorrect values refer to. With all that said, several of the games cited on the list are notably far more popular in China than in the West. These were also produced by influential Chinese companies like Tencent and NetEase. Tencent, in particular, was hit hard by the review, as the conglomerate holds stakes in PUBG, League of Legends, Paladins, and three other titles in the 20-game list. The companies whose games were included in the list have so far been silent on the matter. It is also unclear how the review will affect the esports industry in China, one of the biggest in the world, as several major esports titles were among those made to take corrective actions or facing outright bans." -Fox Sports News Asia.
> [{quoted}](name=Jinxsterr,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iEBklaWn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-12-13T17:40:39.415+0000) > > According to Fox News , It's true. > > "A number of games, which include major esports titles such as League of Legends (LoL), Overwatch, PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds (PUBG), and Fortnite: Battle Royale among others, have reportedly been banned in China after they were found to have violated the country’s social and ethical rules. > > The bans come following the establishment of the Online Ethics Review Committee by the Chinese government earlier this month. The committee was tasked with reviewing online games in order to establish whether they violate the country’s social and ethical rules or not. > > There were 20 popular online games that were reportedly included in the first wave of reviews. Out of that number, 11 were made to take corrective action to address the committee’s concerns. > > LoL is joined by several games developed by Blizzard Entertainment, including Overwatch, Diablo, and World of Warcraft (WoW), among the group of games that needed to take “corrective action.” > > According to a Reddit thread that translated the results of the review process, LoL was banned because it featured “overly revealing female characters” and an “inharmonious chatroom.” > > According to the user who posted the thread, “Inharmonious chat” refers to the perceived lack of effort by publishers to combat toxicity, vulgarity, and politically sensitive speech in chats. > > Overwatch, Diablo, and WoW were all found to have ‘inharmonious’ chat environments as well. Overwatch was also blasted for showing “game visuals [that] promote incorrect values,” while the missions in Diablo’s story mode were found to “include fraud.” > > Nine other games in the list failed the review entirely however and now seem to have been outright banned in China. > > Most of those games are battle royales such as PUBG, Fortnite, H1Z1, and Ring of Elysium. All were banned for featuring “blood and gore.” > > It is interesting to note that Fortnite’s cartoonish visual themes is famously devoid of any blood and gore effects. This may signal that China is not after the violence depicted in these games, but is instead targeting the battle royale genre altogether. > > A hero-centric shooter game similar to Overwatch, Paladins, was also banned for showing “overly revealing female characters, blood and gore, and vulgar content.” > > As with Fortnite, Paladins also lacked explicit displays of blood effects. This is interesting to note in comparison to Overwatch, which features blood effects to some degree, but was only cited for “visuals [that] promote incorrect values.” > > It is still unclear as to what those incorrect values refer to. > > With all that said, several of the games cited on the list are notably far more popular in China than in the West. These were also produced by influential Chinese companies like Tencent and NetEase. > > Tencent, in particular, was hit hard by the review, as the conglomerate holds stakes in PUBG, League of Legends, Paladins, and three other titles in the 20-game list. > > The companies whose games were included in the list have so far been silent on the matter. It is also unclear how the review will affect the esports industry in China, one of the biggest in the world, as several major esports titles were among those made to take corrective actions or facing outright bans." > -Fox Sports News Asia. I doubt tencent would let any of their games get harmed. As we know they are affiliated with the goverment.
: Remember how boring those kits were and how many problems they caused because of it.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XfEvlXoO,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-09T19:09:12.789+0000) > > Remember how boring those kits were and how many problems they caused because of it. Something that has counter play and is alot simpler cannot cause "many problems"at least no more than the new toxic ass designs that everyone except their mains enjoy to play with/against.
: Do NOT follow poppy during bardle royal
The reason i ban her in 3v3. Every fucking wall is your next grave.
: Missions were a lot funner when you didn't have to buy them.
Something has to make them profit since the base game is free and paying for just customizations is good. Why u get so upset. Be glad that there aren't any pay to win elements in the shop like some other games. I never bought RP and i'm completely fine with not having skins + Riot are good enough to give chests and keys for free. It's perfect balance between paying and not spending a single penny. Games aren't free to maintain they have to make money somehow. Now that the battle pass forces u to spam tons of game for maximum reward is kinda bad and harsh but they'll learn eventually.
: This game would be better off without Yasuo in it
The same should apply to akali irelia and some others.
agac4234 (EUW)
: yeah lets fuck over ppl that actaully like playing those champions liek irelia and akali.lets make 15% or more of the player base quit league because they cant play the champions that they like. good idea
> [{quoted}](name=agac4234,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9jk1YpnJ,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-12-07T07:51:33.089+0000) > > yeah lets fuck over ppl that actaully like playing those champions liek irelia and akali.lets make 15% or more of the player base quit league because they cant play the champions that they like. good idea If they play just 1 champion then we are better w/o them. If they just int on anything else than their main and those ones usualy buy 1 or no skins at all. so yeah a good idea.
: Give us 2 bans per player
Bans weren't supposed to be a solution to op champions. It was intended to ban out something that counters the playstyle of your champion. Riot are intentionally keeping akali lb irelia op because that's what makes them the most profit which is disgusting but understandable.
: > [{quoted}](name=WoodenCreature,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V57TKa46,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-12-05T16:06:07.211+0000) > > Tbh i prefer him to be out of the meta no more 1k crits that u cannot itemize against. {{item:3194}}
> [{quoted}](name=Hammermancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V57TKa46,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2018-12-05T18:36:05.748+0000) > > {{item:3194}} You gotta buy randiun too but dps champions cant just waste 6,5k gold to not get 1shot.
: I mean he could use some help, he's pretty garbage. Can't even remember the last time I even seen a corki
> [{quoted}](name=ItsBulletTime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V57TKa46,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-05T11:50:58.381+0000) > > I mean he could use some help, he's pretty garbage. Can't even remember the last time I even seen a corki Tbh i prefer him to be out of the meta no more 1k crits that u cannot itemize against.
: There is no greater feeling in league than
I accept those friend invites to offer mental help #everylifematters.
: I'm just waiting for someone to complain about Viktor buying it.
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4e0a62I6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-04T21:24:55.388+0000) > > I'm just waiting for someone to complain about Viktor buying it. Too expensive.
FFrazien (EUW)
: Can we nerf the REAL problem on Irelia?
Irelia mid is disgusting only way u can survive her is with exh and staying miles away back from your first tower literally praying to not get killed for free. She needs to get hit on the passive and this W must go it's so fucking obnoxious to deal with.
: This game is 90% balanced around pro play and not low elo. Why do you think {{champion:113}} is the most garbage champion in the game? It certainly isn't because of bronze.
> [{quoted}](name=Blåbæret,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lelwAtXu,comment-id=0025,timestamp=2018-12-04T07:05:15.412+0000) > > This game is 90% balanced around pro play and not low elo. Why do you think {{champion:113}} is the most garbage champion in the game? It certainly isn't because of bronze. Some champions are changed just because are too good in bronze (yorick had like 65-70% w/r in bronze) But in general the most changes are as you said centered around pro play.
Moody P (NA)
: Balancing around people who cant play well is absurd
Most people in bronze are there because their internet is awful, hardware is really old and puts up 15-30 fps at best, just handicapped or just harcore casuals that just want to enjoy their champion w/o thrive to win or improve then again the harware and internet comes to life that prevents some bronzes from climbing.
: Man, Voli Ornn and Ivern are so much more healthy and fun to play against than the current meta champion pull. Rest in Peace you beautiful animals, and tree.
> [{quoted}](name=Necro Warrior87,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=3nYx8IHA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-03T03:35:50.473+0000) > > Man, Voli Ornn and Ivern are so much more healthy and fun to play against than the current meta champion pull. > > Rest in Peace you beautiful animals, and tree. It's not actually fun having to deal with Voli's cc atk speed and damage from his w not to mention his passive early game. Ornn still 1shots more efficently than an actual assassin which is so stupid. And you might fk with ivern pre 10 mins but later gl dealing with 2k hp adc + 2 sec cd 600~ hp shield.
: Rush Cloth Armor, +10 armor runes, lvl 4 Zed poke combos me for 60% of my HP
If You're sitting in your wave eating w + q comboes is your fault. I know that it's better to blame it on the game but let's be real.
: Yugioh is more balanced than League right now and even Yugioh fixes their mistakes
Riot can just use their getaway card "Reddit and boards are a minority and we can just ignore all the feedback". All they care now for is the skins for Lux Ahri Yi. Look at the client and the patcher. Both in miserable state when they can be easily fixed but all the resources riot has is going to the art & music department.
rawiazam1 (EUNE)
: for all those "casual" ranked players in preseason:
I don't see any difference between regular season and pre-season. There will always be soft inters afkers and ppl playing with 500 - 12000 ping (no joke btw).
Madsin25 (NA)
: The description says "Damaging a champion". So if displacements and stasis is causing it to proc it is a bug.
> [{quoted}](name=Madsin25,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ugkoJhsA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-02T18:18:35.575+0000) > > The description says "Damaging a champion". > > So if displacements and stasis is causing it to proc it is a bug. Trundle pillar and anivia wall somehow does 1 true damage thats why it procs stuff like DH.
: This is getting out of hand.
The other runes are just too trash and everyone has no options if you're not a yasuo or twitch to get conqueror and lethal tempo as a mage and assassin you can only go DH. If riot saw that and changed/buffed guardian aery & comet no one would've cried for DH. also Electrocute does more damage than DH until about 26 stacks.
: This is getting out of hand.
Nothing beats the good old 9/10 people taking thunderlord's decree in s6 i believe it was. The 10th guy just forgot to change his runes LMAO. Now is not that bad just 5-6 DH's per game. Lethal tempo is still good for some adc's and u can't just take dh on a tank.
Zen Fury (NA)
: They can add it for non-premades if there is enough demand (though I'd rather them work on game balance). But for me personally, I'll never use it. I have better things to listen to than low self-esteem kids with cracking voices going on profanity/homophobic/racism laced tirades because I took a couple CS in lane as a support. Best chat mode is MUTE ALL for this game.
> [{quoted}](name=Zen Fury,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=X4E7GaBq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-02T14:13:43.138+0000) > > They can add it for non-premades if there is enough demand (though I'd rather them work on game balance). But for me personally, I'll never use it. I have better things to listen to than low self-esteem kids with cracking voices going on profanity/homophobic/racism laced tirades because I took a couple CS in lane as a support. > > Best chat mode is MUTE ALL for this game. It's not fair to not put it just because someone said ppl will flame more.
: People should really be more specific about this. "Do you want team voice chat for everyone, not just pre-mades to exist?" It already exists for pre-mades, just not for anyone else. I remember discussing pre-mades and their advantages over normal parties, and someone seriously thought that everyone already had access to it.
> [{quoted}](name=NoDiscussion,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=X4E7GaBq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-02T11:04:44.013+0000) > > People should really be more specific about this. "Do you want team voice chat for everyone, not just pre-mades to exist?" > > It already exists for pre-mades, just not for anyone else. > > I remember discussing pre-mades and their advantages over normal parties, and someone seriously thought that everyone already had access to it. TEAM voice chata underlines that lol.
Zen Fury (NA)
: They can add it for non-premades if there is enough demand (though I'd rather them work on game balance). But for me personally, I'll never use it. I have better things to listen to than low self-esteem kids with cracking voices going on profanity/homophobic/racism laced tirades because I took a couple CS in lane as a support. Best chat mode is MUTE ALL for this game.
> [{quoted}](name=Zen Fury,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=X4E7GaBq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-02T14:13:43.138+0000) > > They can add it for non-premades if there is enough demand (though I'd rather them work on game balance). But for me personally, I'll never use it. I have better things to listen to than low self-esteem kids with cracking voices going on profanity/homophobic/racism laced tirades because I took a couple CS in lane as a support. > > Best chat mode is MUTE ALL for this game. But don't u agree that if u end up with cool dudes having voice chat is a bonus since communication is key to victory and those 12 yr olds won't have the balls to flame someone way more matured. The game will be alot of fun for those random teams that can cooperate. And Riot doesn't have to listen to replays no other game does it and if someone is flaming / refusing to communicate just mute it and try to win through the other lanes and cool lads that u may encounter. Also who actually cares what keyboard warriors have to say? Also the one flaming will be actually playing instead of afk chatting since he will say those stuff then again just hit that 'mute'. It's not fair to not give it for all the teammates just because people are scared of 12 yr olds harsh words. The fun factor will be way higher with that system enabled for every player in the team and the toxicity won't rise it's one thing to type an insult but it's totally different beast to actually say it.
: It's amazing how different this game used to be in S3
Back then when Riot actually gave a damn about the game state eh good times. Now it's all about the next fancy (any booby champion) skin.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=WoodenCreature,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEvFLA17,comment-id=00260000,timestamp=2018-11-15T08:31:19.062+0000) > > It's not about that. Those who troll the ff vote are usually the instigators of toxicity soft int etc. They do not ff only because theres a chance of a comeback. They ff because they hate u and enjoy u having to suffer with them. Whats so hard to understand here. Mute them instantly and then proceed to carry them. I don't care what grudge they just made up on the spot with me. My job is to win the game, not wave my Epeen at them to see who's bigger in chat. People play games with their emotions on their sleeves, and it will have a horrific affect on your long term performance if you let it. Once you're 10-0 and they are still 1-5 trying to cry in chat they may just shut up instead and play. _Especially if you don't reciprocate._ At the end of the day they will take a win over a loss even if they hate you for some kindergarten level reason. Things to keep in mind: -If you keep this mindset then only the enemy team can fall victim to those ragers/instigators of toxicity, which in turn means your main source of frustration becomes your source for free wins. (This adds up!) -Your back in any given elo needs to be strong enough to hold at least one troll. -Your team's main desire above all is always to win the game, even if they say or play otherwise. They will work to your advantage most often if you focus on this at all times. -After you WIN the game you can still report the toxic players which feels MUCH more satisfying IMO than reporting them after a loss.
> [{quoted}](name=APgamesRelay4lol,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEvFLA17,comment-id=002600000000,timestamp=2018-12-01T22:52:26.067+0000) > > Mute them instantly and then proceed to carry them. I don't care what grudge they just made up on the spot with me. My job is to win the game, not wave my Epeen at them to see who's bigger in chat. People play games with their emotions on their sleeves, and it will have a horrific affect on your long term performance if you let it. Once you're 10-0 and they are still 1-5 trying to cry in chat they may just shut up instead and play. _Especially if you don't reciprocate._ At the end of the day they will take a win over a loss even if they hate you for some kindergarten level reason. > > Things to keep in mind: > > -If you keep this mindset then only the enemy team can fall victim to those ragers/instigators of toxicity, which in turn means your main source of frustration becomes your source for free wins. (This adds up!) > -Your back in any given elo needs to be strong enough to hold at least one troll. > -Your team's main desire above all is always to win the game, even if they say or play otherwise. They will work to your advantage most often if you focus on this at all times. > -After you WIN the game you can still report the toxic players which feels MUCH more satisfying IMO than reporting them after a loss. I don't care much about such players all i care is that in those games where your team is down 1 - 2 items 20 kills 6-8 towers in 15-20 mins and u cannot let go because one or 2 teammates decide to cosplay ISIS and we now have to wait for the enemy's team mercy to stop bitching around and just finish us. Some games are winnable and i won't ever ff such a game but when it's an early stomp theres very little u can do and in most cases you just watch how the enemy team is joking around / pissing the losing team even more.
: > [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gGbLLn6v,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-01T16:09:19.440+0000) > > Also, you're asking them to fast track and ignore fixing the problems with the balance of the early ranked season in exchange for the hope that players will play more responsibly. This is riot we are talking about, they won't fix shit by the time pre season ends. They should be thankful their art and music team is carrying their asses.
> [{quoted}](name=2Charmnot2Charm,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gGbLLn6v,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-12-01T18:09:26.101+0000) > > This is riot we are talking about, they won't fix shit by the time pre season ends. > > They should be thankful their art and music team is carrying their asses. that's the whole thing they only care all of thier bilions are redirected towards the art team. The client is in miserable state and it can be fixed so easily but they absolutely do not care about stuff that do not make $$$ EA cosplaying.
: Bah. Pyke didnt take long to balance and neither did zoe.
> [{quoted}](name=Jorencice,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Op6jNJIb,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-30T11:36:03.979+0000) > > Bah. Pyke didnt take long to balance and neither did zoe. Zoe is far from balanced but riot outdid themselves and put out more broken bullshit that overshadows zoe.
Rioter Comments
mack9112 (NA)
: I think overall riot is really tuning things in to keep most Champs viable. As a jungler I never have has a season with such a diverse jungle meta
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=desyGH7w,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-29T19:13:59.527+0000) > > I think overall riot is really tuning things in to keep most Champs viable. > > As a jungler I never have has a season with such a diverse jungle meta I don't see much diversity in camile graves khazix & evelynn tank junglers are garbage tier and if u play something else that is not the stated before you're basically trolling.
: Anyone else think celerity is just dumb?
Why would they even touch celerity no one ever said that that rune is broken or something Riot back at it again breaking something that doesn't need fixing.
Rioter Comments
: Thank you Riot
Don't thank riot it's all their completely automated ban system that is outdated and gets triggered by swear words and basically any word.
: ADCs are 'too weak' and Riot is planning buffs.
Riot has to change something big because it will take alot to kick mages out of the bot lane. Adc itemization is literal garbage ER is up for abusing by jax/riven/renekton and it was ment for adcs, stormraizer is an assassin item aswell and we end up with IE that feels annoying build and it takes 3-4 items for most adcs to make something when most games end before u build your 3rd item.
: > [{quoted}](name=WoodenCreature,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pvG2PERe,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-11-28T06:46:19.057+0000) > > You think that theres diversity in runes selection and every one of them is equally is good? All im saying is that if the other runes werent crap DH wont be picked by 7/10 players every game. DH is not that busted but when everyone uses it then it seems busted as hell. And realistiacally u can hardly do more than 2500 damage with it since most games last 15-25 mins. you're actually trying to say getting an extra 2k dmg total at 20 mins is fine LOL. Why come onto the boards to troll? "hurr ghurr everyone whines about damage well i think we should just buff everything to balance it out hahaxd!" DH has been nerfed in pbe 3 times i think AND got hotfixed, its abroken ass rune that cant be fixed with number lowering on his or raising on others. Damage is already at an all time high so obviously no buffing all the runes and if they try to nerf it with numbers, they have to gut it to where it only starts out at like 10 base with lower ratio scaling. It'd be better if they changed on how it can be proc'd or change the reset to where it only takes off 15-20 seconds off of the 45s cooldown on DH.
> [{quoted}](name=Mobile Phone,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pvG2PERe,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-11-28T06:54:50.103+0000) > > you're actually trying to say getting an extra 2k dmg total at 20 mins is fine LOL. Why come onto the boards to troll? "hurr ghurr everyone whines about damage well i think we should just buff everything to balance it out hahaxd!" > > DH has been nerfed in pbe 3 times i think AND got hotfixed, its abroken ass rune that cant be fixed with number lowering on his or raising on others. Damage is already at an all time high so obviously no buffing all the runes and if they try to nerf it with numbers, they have to gut it to where it only starts out at like 10 base with lower ratio scaling. > > It'd be better if they changed on how it can be proc'd or change the reset to where it only takes off 15-20 seconds off of the 45s cooldown on DH. People already have proven that DH requires u to take 26 stacks to do as much as electrocute and the average stacks u get per game are like 20 but people just are so bitter that they fail to realise the bigger picture. But whatever you're right who am i to oppose the 12 yr old DH hate squad and proposing stuff like ideas so that comet aery pts guardian became real runes yep i'm so wrong here sorry my overlord.
: This is not Dota 2, where the philosophy is, that everything should be super op. (Although the balancing team thinks that they work for dota2). LoL was once a game, where things got nerfed, if they were to strong and buffed, if the were to weak. This System changed at the start of season 8 (Thanks again CertainlyT) and since then, the game is going downhill. Like seriously, atm LoL is the worse Dota 2. I dont believe that anything will be fixed after preaseason, but assasines and bruisers will stay as op as they are, wereas supports and tanks will get nerfed evenmore. Riot does obviously highly dislike those kinds of champions. I can only reccomend, that everyone who has enough of lol, the imbalance, the oneshotmeta and the balancing team, thats not interested in the community at all, all those ppl id recommed to wait for WC3 remasted, or better Defense of the Acients. Thats were all MOBA games started. This was my personal opinion, you are free to see things different
> [{quoted}](name=xDelightifyx,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pvG2PERe,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-11-28T06:44:32.502+0000) > > This is not Dota 2, where the philosophy is, that everything should be super op. (Although the balancing team thinks that they work for dota2). LoL was once a game, where things got nerfed, if they were to strong and buffed, if the were to weak. This System changed at the start of season 8 (Thanks again CertainlyT) and since then, the game is going downhill. Like seriously, atm LoL is the worse Dota 2. > I dont believe that anything will be fixed after preaseason, but assasines and bruisers will stay as op as they are, where supports and tanks will get nerfed evenmore. Riot does obviously highly dislike those kinds of champions. > I can only reccomend, that everyone who has enough of lol, the imbalance, the oneshotmeta and the balancing team, thats not interested in the community at all, all those ppl id recommed to wait for WC3 remasted, or better Defense of the Acients. > > This was my personal opinion, you are free to see things different Not saying that everything must be op just more equall. atm on average you're doing like 700~ dmg with comet in 25 mins meanwhile dh does something like 2300~. Also alot of ppl did the math for me and prooved that dh is weaker than electrocute until like 26 stacks and it proves that dh is not that broken as everyone says but yeah i agree that riot absolutely hates defensive play and they try their best to evaporate any trace of it.
CD8 (NA)
: this thread is a joke right? the change to DH was needless to begin with. On average its adding 2000-5000+ extra damage per game by existing.
> [{quoted}](name=Call Me Nana,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pvG2PERe,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-28T06:41:23.999+0000) > > this thread is a joke right? > > the change to DH was needless to begin with. On average its adding 2000-5000+ extra damage per game by existing. You think that theres diversity in runes selection and every one of them is equally is good? All im saying is that if the other runes werent crap DH wont be picked by 7/10 players every game. DH is not that busted but when everyone uses it then it seems busted as hell. And realistiacally u can hardly do more than 2500 damage with it since most games last 15-25 mins.
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D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Riot's philosophy finally turned the game into dogshit after so much years
At this point they are just chocking out the NA playerbase it's already nearing 600k meanwhile cn & kr are +40 milions eu is 2,5 m they just the game into a fighting game it is all made to benefit asian style of play.
: Revert Dark Harvest.
DH is getting popular not because it's too op but because the other runes are too bad aery & comet are garbage gurdian is a support rune press the attack is a garbage fervor of battle copy conqueror is melee only you just have no choice when everything else is dogshit.
mack9112 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=The Anivia OTP,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Bx6546eE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-26T20:04:51.388+0000) > > DH resets on kill , you can't waste it on a "poke combo" (unlike electrocute) > makes execution easier, > > Maybe you need more souls , but you can proc it 5 times in a fight. > > also , it's damage from any source so ANY spell is good for that > Even AA It is difficult to farm stacks especially compared to the old system . I am in plat and the average dark harvest user is getting between 12 and 14 stacks in around 25 mins which is when games are closing out . Old dark harvest saw 150 stacks reached around 20 mins that is equal to 26 stacks under the new system and I have yet to play with someone who has reached 26 stacks. It promotes player interaction. Once again to out scale electrocute you need 20 stacks but bonus ad and ap scaling are better for electrocute
> [{quoted}](name=mack9112,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Bx6546eE,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-26T20:16:28.877+0000) > > It is difficult to farm stacks especially compared to the old system . I am in plat and the average dark harvest user is getting between 12 and 14 stacks in around 25 mins which is when games are closing out . > > Old dark harvest saw 150 stacks reached around 20 mins that is equal to 26 stacks under the new system and I have yet to play with someone who has reached 26 stacks. > > It promotes player interaction. > > Once again to out scale electrocute you need 20 stacks but bonus ad and ap scaling are better for electrocute got 27 stacks in 35 mins with veigar dh did 3700 dmg total.
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