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: Can we change IBG to melee only already?
Because Ezreal has a 30% playrate. That's almost 3 mil players. You wouldn't want to upset 3 mil. people, right ? Meanwhile, our <1% playrate champions....
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TheSlogs (NA)
: Swain is overtuned.
Yep, can confirm. Could not 2v1 him (Kha& Aatrox vs. him) after him being just 2 kills ahead (same cs).
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: Tank Aatrox (Godtrox) OP?
So with this build, you're doing yourself 400 true dmg @ full hp ? How's that tanky ?
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Alywan (EUNE)
: Interesting post, but what Trinity changes you're talking about ?
> [{quoted}](name=Alywan,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IFVLi6vP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-18T13:22:47.414+0000) > > Interesting post, but what Trinity changes you&#x27;re talking about ? Trinity Force Now Builds out of Stinger instead of Zeal. Total price reduced to 3600 from 3800 Attack speed increased to 40% from 15% Cooldown reduction increased to 20% from 10% Critical Strike Chance reduced to 0 from 20% PBE 6.11 patch
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: Account permanently suspended for use of malicious third party programs!?
: DynamicQ Matchmaking is bullsh*t
Gold 5 vs. Plat 4 it's the same as Silver 1 vs. Plat 5 Seems a balanced matchmaking to me.
: All of these are true, but none of them will become op, just will be used more often. However kindred will be perma banned, and I'm not afraid to jump on the train of banning them too.
> [{quoted}](name=SlayerTay6,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rOogmjYl,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-05-17T11:32:22.989+0000) > > All of these are true, but none of them will become op, just will be used more often. > > However kindred will be perma banned, and I&#x27;m not afraid to jump on the train of banning them too. Didn't said anywhere they will become OP.
: hey, interesting post. Just one thing: *happen I agree with you in some points, but I do not think that Ghost will become that strong. Because of the ms mechanic this buff does not make a big difference. I am pretty sure that 6.11 will be a big patch, since I read that Ekko will be adjusted and Lucian gets nerfs (not so sure about this). Also tank teams are already effective with one or two damage dealers.
> [{quoted}](name=Michael Sykes,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rOogmjYl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-17T09:52:16.188+0000) > > hey, interesting post. Just one thing: *happen > > I agree with you in some points, but I do not think that Ghost will become that strong. Because of the ms mechanic this buff does not make a big difference. > I am pretty sure that 6.11 will be a big patch, since I read that Ekko will be adjusted and Lucian gets nerfs (not so sure about this). > Also tank teams are already effective with one or two damage dealers. That was definetly a typo. It won't hapen again, i promise!
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: Wait a second. You actually think aatrox needs nerfs. Are you serious.
> [{quoted}](name=Semiwestern,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e8NqFzOd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-05-16T09:53:15.554+0000) > > Wait a second. You actually think aatrox needs nerfs. Are you serious. You totally missunderstood my point.
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Caítlyn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Wulffrith,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JdA9AevA,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2016-05-13T10:51:03.975+0000) > > Your logic is flawless. Only 2 out of those champs are true Diving Fighters. Youre hopeless. I dont even know what the f*ck a "diving fighter" is, and nobody else does either.
> [{quoted}](name=Caítlyn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JdA9AevA,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2016-05-13T11:32:49.434+0000) > > Youre hopeless. I dont even know what the f*ck a &quot;diving fighter&quot; is, and nobody else does either. **FIGHTERS CLASS** Fighters are durable and damage-focused melee champions that look to be in the thick of combat. Juggernauts Juggernauts are melee titans who relentlessly march down the opposition and devastate those foolish enough to get within their grasp. They are the only subclass who excel at both dealing and taking significant amounts of damage, but in turn they have a tough time closing in on targets due to their low range and extremely limited mobility. Divers **Divers** subclass are the more mobile portion of the Fighter class. Divers excel at singling out high-priority targets to blitz toward, immediately forcing those targets (and their teammates) to deal with the diver’s presence. Divers are not as durable as the tanks or juggernauts of the world, but Divers can take their fair share of punishment while bringing enough damage to be a real kill threat if left unchecked. Here you go you retard. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/dev-blog-classes-subclasses
Caítlyn (NA)
: You couldnt kill a {{champion:51}} as {{champion:266}} = "diving fighters" (whatever that means) have zero chance against any ADCs? If you cant see the fallacy in your own "logic" youre never going to improve at the game. {{champion:64}} Land your Q, jump, E, hydra, R, dead. {{champion:36}} Run at her and right click. Press R for fun. Dead. {{champion:131}} Land Q, R, E, R dead. {{champion:60}} Land your stun. Use your combo, dead. {{champion:245}} Build tank. Dead. {{champion:28}} Assassinate. {{champion:114}} Spam dash moves and true damage at her. Dead. {{champion:39}} Press all your buttons on her. Dead. {{champion:105}} LOL I could keep going down this list but I think Ive made my point.
> [{quoted}](name=Caítlyn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JdA9AevA,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-05-13T09:41:40.659+0000) > > You couldnt kill a {{champion:51}} as {{champion:266}} = &quot;diving fighters&quot; (whatever that means) have zero chance against any ADCs? If you cant see the fallacy in your own &quot;logic&quot; youre never going to improve at the game. > > {{champion:64}} Land your Q, jump, E, hydra, R, dead. > {{champion:36}} Run at her and right click. Press R for fun. Dead. > {{champion:131}} Land Q, R, E, R dead. > {{champion:60}} Land your stun. Use your combo, dead. > {{champion:245}} Build tank. Dead. > {{champion:28}} Assassinate. > {{champion:114}} Spam dash moves and true damage at her. Dead. > {{champion:39}} Press all your buttons on her. Dead. > {{champion:105}} LOL > > > I could keep going down this list but I think Ive made my point. Your logic is flawless. Only 2 out of those champs are true Diving Fighters.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wulffrith,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JdA9AevA,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-05-13T08:44:33.868+0000) > > I&#x27;m talking early (i tried all-in @ lvl 3 with ~70% hp - where i landed every skillshot - used even Exhaust - got rekt pretty hard). > > I&#x27;ve then tried @ lvl 6 to burst her down again. Here i considered that her ult is usually useless against me. So the only problem was : i can stick around her with my ult range, enough to kill her ? I found out i can&#x27;t. And as soon as i started going back, ofc she rekt me again with her ult. > > Late- game : Only if i have PD. Your Aatrox build was fucking weird. Build more defense and attack speed. Could go Titanic and Guinsoo's for your only damage items then full tank and would probably kill her. I normally like Blade of the Ruined King but their team was all burst without any tankiness, so itemizing against their burst damage with resists and health would have gone a long way. Also, please don't ever buy phantom dancer on Aatrox.
> [{quoted}](name=Memeglaive Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JdA9AevA,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2016-05-13T09:27:03.805+0000) > > Your Aatrox build was fucking weird. > > Build more defense and attack speed. Could go Titanic and Guinsoo&#x27;s for your only damage items then full tank and would probably kill her. I normally like Blade of the Ruined King but their team was all burst without any tankiness, so itemizing against their burst damage with resists and health would have gone a long way. > > Also, please don&#x27;t ever buy phantom dancer on Aatrox. Phantom Dancer on Aatrox is the only reason i've reached Plat I with him, with a 64% winrate. R Hydra + PD + Swifntess = splitpushing for days. Here we're talking about 5v5 of course, 3v3 is another story. But, i had to build those items because their dmg was insane.What the fuck you would do with Guinsoo's against Brand/Diana/Cait when they all have potential to one-shot you ?
Wulffrith (EUNE)
: Diving Fighters vs. ADC's
I'm talking early (i tried all-in @ lvl 3 with ~70% hp - where i landed every skillshot - used even Exhaust - got rekt pretty hard). I've then tried @ lvl 6 to burst her down again. Here i considered that her ult is usually useless against me. So the only problem was : i can stick around her with my ult range, enough to kill her ? I found out i can't. And as soon as i started going back, ofc she rekt me again with her ult. Late- game : Only if i have PD.
: Jax wins if he times his stun juuuust right, or he just farms up and outscales her. Endgame Jax is NASTY. Xin probably gets kited unless he's VERY fed, since he also only has one gap-closer and his only hard CC requires him to land three attacks. Vi wins. Hard. She can dash in with Q, then mash R when Cait nets and get to her... and then Cait is boned. gg ez Trynd loses brutally until he gets his ult. Then he can do whatever the heck he wants and Cait can't really stop him. But yeah... "diving fighter" isn't... really a role. There are champs who can stick to their targets pretty easily, and those are the ones who can handle semi-mobile adc's like Cait, Ez, Corki, etc. Aatrox isn't the best man for that job. You want someone with brutally hard engage like Jarvan or Vi... OR you want an assassin, like Zed, Diana or Talon.
> [{quoted}](name=Deitrix,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JdA9AevA,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-05-13T07:48:20.945+0000) > > Jax wins if he times his stun juuuust right, or he just farms up and outscales her. Endgame Jax is NASTY. > > Xin probably gets kited unless he&#x27;s VERY fed, since he also only has one gap-closer and his only hard CC requires him to land three attacks. > > Vi wins. Hard. She can dash in with Q, then mash R when Cait nets and get to her... and then Cait is boned. gg ez > > Trynd loses brutally until he gets his ult. Then he can do whatever the heck he wants and Cait can&#x27;t really stop him. > > But yeah... &quot;diving fighter&quot; isn&#x27;t... really a role. There are champs who can stick to their targets pretty easily, and those are the ones who can handle semi-mobile adc&#x27;s like Cait, Ez, Corki, etc. Aatrox isn&#x27;t the best man for that job. You want someone with brutally hard engage like Jarvan or Vi... OR you want an assassin, like Zed, Diana or Talon. Yeah, against semi-mobile ADCS. What are you going to do against Lucian/Vayne/Sivir/Tristana ? Absolutely 0 chances of kill. Divers my ass...
Njallum (EUW)
: Oh gods no, I think that'd be a pretty bad idea. It'd break the game in two, can you imagine someone like Darius with a gapcloser, what about Garen? How about Skarner, it'd negate their weaknesses of kiteability, and allow them to consistently get into anyone's face with their high-threat zones.
> [{quoted}](name=Njallum,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JdA9AevA,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-05-13T07:20:21.382+0000) > > Oh gods no, I think that&#x27;d be a pretty bad idea. It&#x27;d break the game in two, can you imagine someone like Darius with a gapcloser, what about Garen? How about Skarner, it&#x27;d negate their weaknesses of kiteability, and allow them to consistently get into anyone&#x27;s face with their high-threat zones. No it won't. Have you ever played with those champions against a good, coordinated team ? There is a reason those champions are not played in LCS
: AT BEST, you're proving that you can't 1v1 a good Cait as Aatrox. Not an overall thing. Aatrox has one gap-closer and very little hard CC. You jump in, she nets out... tada. But you can most certainly 1v1 an adc as a "dive fighter". Diana. BAM. Land Q, go in with R, she nets. R again. She's out of tricks. She dies. That's only one example. The point is, AATROX is the issue here, not Cait. He's just a sub-par champ right now. He's 100% based around melee attacks making him VERY easy to render useless if you stay out of his reach. He also has very few ways to force you into that fight that he wants. He's... actually pretty kitable. He's not a great pick vs champs like Cait. He's not a great pick overall, but his best matches are against melee skirmishers that he can outsustain if they all-in and poke down if they try to play passive. Good luck finding a favorable fight for him tho... the common picks these days all kinda poop on him if they're any good.
> [{quoted}](name=Deitrix,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JdA9AevA,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-05-13T07:04:10.884+0000) > > AT BEST, you&#x27;re proving that you can&#x27;t 1v1 a good Cait as Aatrox. Not an overall thing. Aatrox has one gap-closer and very little hard CC. You jump in, she nets out... tada. > > But you can most certainly 1v1 an adc as a &quot;dive fighter&quot;. Diana. BAM. Land Q, go in with R, she nets. R again. She&#x27;s out of tricks. She dies. That&#x27;s only one example. The point is, AATROX is the issue here, not Cait. He&#x27;s just a sub-par champ right now. He&#x27;s 100% based around melee attacks making him VERY easy to render useless if you stay out of his reach. He also has very few ways to force you into that fight that he wants. He&#x27;s... actually pretty kitable. He&#x27;s not a great pick vs champs like Cait. He&#x27;s not a great pick overall, but his best matches are against melee skirmishers that he can outsustain if they all-in and poke down if they try to play passive. Good luck finding a favorable fight for him tho... the common picks these days all kinda poop on him if they&#x27;re any good. So, we basically have only ONE diving fighter that can stick to it's target ? Also, i would make Diana a hybrid assassin, more than a true diving fighter. What happens to Jax/Xin/Vi/Trynda, etc. ?
Wulffrith (EUNE)
: Diving Fighters vs. ADC's
What if we'd have a Probelt item like mages do, that gives something like AD+AS or ARP (so tank won't abuse it much) and make it melee only ?
Wulffrith (EUNE)
: Diving Fighters vs. ADC's
So this basically it's just an Aatrox issue ? How would Jax/Xin Zhao do against a good Cait ?
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: What if we reworked Olaf's W to synch with his juggernaut build?
He dies too fast as soon as he presses R, either he goes full tank or full AD. This won't fix anything IMO, maybe it will just make Tank Olaf arguably more viable.
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: HERE IS A MESSAGE TO ALL YOU NEW LVL 30 PLAYERS
Here is a message for OP : No new level 30 players is going to register on this forum, until 1). 2). 3). and 4). happens to them.
: How do you play against Poppy as Aatrox?
You don't. And if you have to play against her, try to : 1). Freeze lane as much as you can and wait for your jungler help 2). Farm and ignore her. You will never get to kill her, no matter how ahead you are.
: Aatrox Can Solo Baron With 3 Items!
Yeah, sure. Good luck getting those 3 items before the enemy team reaches your nexus. What are you ? Bronze VI ?
: > [{quoted}](name=Wulffrith,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=r9JyWE2w,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-06T17:59:29.845+0000) > > A 83% winrate in 21 games is pretty irelevant. > Also, Guinsoo&#x27;s is and was garbage in most situations on him. > > You can check my account here : > http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=wulffrith That's just 21 games this season just ranked. And your 2.71kda vs my 3.95 definitely tells me guinsoo's is garbage /s
> [{quoted}](name=MetaCosmos,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=r9JyWE2w,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-05-06T20:39:23.647+0000) > > That&#x27;s just 21 games this season just ranked. And your 2.71kda vs my 3.95 definitely tells me guinsoo&#x27;s is garbage /s I had the same winrate / kda in 20 games with him. Seems like we can end the discussion here. Your brain is fried.
: > [{quoted}](name=Wulffrith,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=r9JyWE2w,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-05-06T06:38:50.288+0000) > > Really ? > > 3 games 3 wins. 3 hard carry games. > > Early : > > Usually Aatrox has a very good early gank, especially with the new Red Buff. > Good early gank = could potentially get very ahead your laners. > > Early-mid: > > As soon as you finish the new jungler item, extremely underrated damage combined with full AS runes. Good early-mid game because of that dmg. > > Mid-game : > > Here is your weakness, because you should also go for Bloodrazor = Botrk. This means no HP/resistances mid-game. Try to avoid getting the 1st to the enemy, especially when passive is down. > > Late-game : > > Absolutely monster against tanky teams. Play as a frontline, don&#x27;t try to dive theyr backline with this build. Just focus and drain from their frontline. > > > > Conclusion : > > Aatrox it&#x27;s clearly not a trash pick as a jungler. He is compared to where he was. Speaking as a plat aatrox main with 86% winrate he's nothing but a shadow of himself now. If you're building bloodrazor on aatrox you're trash and going to lose against anything that isn't a tank comp.
> [{quoted}](name=MetaCosmos,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=r9JyWE2w,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-05-06T16:21:26.081+0000) > > He is compared to where he was. Speaking as a plat aatrox main with 86% winrate he&#x27;s nothing but a shadow of himself now. If you&#x27;re building bloodrazor on aatrox you&#x27;re trash and going to lose against anything that isn&#x27;t a tank comp. A 83% winrate in 21 games is pretty irelevant. Also, Guinsoo's is and was garbage in most situations on him. You can check my account here : http://eune.op.gg/summoner/userName=wulffrith
: Welp, the guinsoo/devourer changes gutted Aatrox
Really ? 3 games 3 wins. 3 hard carry games. Early : Usually Aatrox has a very good early gank, especially with the new Red Buff. Good early gank = could potentially get very ahead your laners. Early-mid: As soon as you finish the new jungler item, extremely underrated damage combined with full AS runes. Good early-mid game because of that dmg. Mid-game : Here is your weakness, because you should also go for Bloodrazor = Botrk. This means no HP/resistances mid-game. Try to avoid getting the 1st to the enemy, especially when passive is down. Late-game : Absolutely monster against tanky teams. Play as a frontline, don't try to dive theyr backline with this build. Just focus and drain from their frontline. Conclusion : Aatrox it's clearly not a trash pick as a jungler.
: I haven't tried new Malzahar but at first glance I'm iffy on the changes.
He's OP asf right now. Immune to CC, game changing ult, teamfight changing silence.
: I never thought games could become even more snowbally...
It's not RIOT's fault that some players are 0 / 5 / 0 in min 5.
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: Is Platinum The Bronze of High Elo?
Is Silver the Gold of poor people ?
: Tanks are becoming more popular and the Kindred specialize in tankbusting. Also the item changes didn't end up affecting them particularly negatively, and their bases are pretty good.
> [{quoted}](name=Elphrihaim,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IuItOceE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-04-25T08:34:09.943+0000) > > Tanks are becoming more popular and the Kindred specialize in tankbusting. > > Also the item changes didn&#x27;t end up affecting them particularly negatively, and their bases are pretty good. I actually find her more successfull against squishies, thanks to ARP runes & Maw flat ARP
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Wulffrith (EUNE)
: How is Olaf in 6.8 ?
I've tried him out in a very low elo normal game. I was Mid with him vs. LeBlanc, running Cunning tree with +5% CDR and 10% CDR runes. After Black Cleaver & Spirit Visage i had 45% CDR. Finished the game with 22/2/5 score and done about 42k dmg in 30 minutes.
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