SatomiKun (EUW)
: This makes me sad, I want a new champ from Piltover or Zaun. {{sticker:cass-cry}}
> [{quoted}](name=SatomiKun,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=LLTmhsRK,comment-id=000300000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-10T20:34:00.240+0000) > > This makes me sad, I want a new champ from Piltover or Zaun. > {{sticker:cass-cry}} Sol's champion might be from one of these places, but I do agree we need more Piltovians. Corki should be considered one when he is chosen, he lives there and works with Heimerdinger after all...
SatomiKun (EUW)
: Source?
https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/880a7s/next_rework_is_aatrox_cant_wait_anynore/dwhhztl/?context=3 before Nunu got announced.
: Possible future skin bio groupings
Nightmare {{champion:31}} should totally be a Kaiju skin.
: Will Rito ever update the REALLY bad legendary skins?
{{champion:31}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:42}} are in the top priority for being given full VGUs, meaning all of their skins will be redone from 0. Expect to see Corki's skins to at least get Firefighter Tristana treatment.
: Which champions are getting Star Guardian skins this year?
As an {{champion:6}} main, Urgot as the leader. And an accompanying team that makes sense. {{champion:55}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:141}}
Zahraize (OCE)
: Does Kog'maw need a Visual Update?
{{champion:96}} along with {{champion:42}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:72}} and soon {{champion:133}} joined the VGU candidate list, so they will completely get reworked on visual scale, but it is unknown how much gameplay change will be done.
: I'm going to guess it's a Yordle. There are several that could use a visual update with minor gameplay tweeks, but what sways me the most on it is how Yordle lore as a whole feels like it's not quite locked down yet. Thus a Yordle would give the most bang-for-buck.
> [{quoted}](name=DrCyanide,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Zlwreqeo,comment-id=0001000000000000000000010000000000000006,timestamp=2018-06-19T19:54:00.878+0000) > > I'm going to guess it's a Yordle. There are several that could use a visual update with minor gameplay tweeks, but what sways me the most on it is how Yordle lore as a whole feels like it's not quite locked down yet. Thus a Yordle would give the most bang-for-buck. Lulu is in the WAD file stuff and she hasn't had a skin since 2016... Conspiracy mode on, my friend.
Zoli Ben (EUNE)
: Wrekz minor VGU is not Morgana?
Exactly. They failed to realise this very important reason why VUs went downhill.
Zoli Ben (EUNE)
: Wrekz minor VGU is not Morgana?
{{champion:38}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:37}} deserve special mention for poorly made VUs too. People *want* VGU level VU, they enjoy those.
: > [{quoted}](name=EROTIC RAID BOSS,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Zlwreqeo,comment-id=00010000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T21:50:02.197+0000) > > So if I understand right, this update is heavy on lore/art but light on gameplay changes? I'm pretty interested to see what exactly it is, given this is a first and there's a lot of champions I can think of that could use nicer art/vo etc. Aye. It's a long list. One of the reasons we're doing it is to test the viability of minor VGUs. How much will it resonate with players en masse, etc. We're all hoping it does. :)
> [{quoted}](name=FauxSchizzle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Zlwreqeo,comment-id=000100000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-19T16:43:05.133+0000) > > Aye. It's a long list. One of the reasons we're doing it is to test the viability of minor VGUs. How much will it resonate with players en masse, etc. We're all hoping it does. :) Can I tell you why {{champion:98}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:38}} didn't work? Because they felt incomplete on all aspect. {{champion:29}} {{champion:74}} {{champion:30}} were the great ones. I hope you are not returning to the former EVER. I mean as in not doing those poorly ways to "visually" update a champion.
: Mecha/Kaiju universe
{{champion:516}} mega{{champion:150}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:101}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:20}}
: what the heck why is it NOT Morgana? :(
> [{quoted}](name=Shooktopus,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Zlwreqeo,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2018-06-19T08:03:00.189+0000) > > what the heck why is it NOT Morgana? :( Don't worry, if Kayle is being worked on, Morgana is too.
saltran (EUW)
: But isn't the mini rework more like a Xin'Zao rework? What Caitlyn needs is a Visual Update, not a gameplay rework.
> [{quoted}](name=saltran,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Zlwreqeo,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T16:37:17.128+0000) > > But isn't the mini rework more like a Xin'Zao rework? What Caitlyn needs is a Visual Update, not a gameplay rework. It is a complete visual update, with small gameplay update. We yet to know how small it is.
: > [{quoted}](name=Zoli Ben,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Zlwreqeo,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-18T14:50:20.470+0000) > > This minor VGU is supposed to be a full Visual rework with minor gameplay update to it, so very small scale on it. Think like Xin Zhao minor GU but with a complete Visual update Plus new VO, most likely a new color text and an updated bio.
> [{quoted}](name=FauxSchizzle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Zlwreqeo,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-06-18T16:23:39.847+0000) > > Plus new VO, most likely a new color text and an updated bio. Updated splashes, and I hope updated animations too, right? I recall you've mentioned that you wanted to work on this champion so much, so I am glad that it is coming up well!
: For "minor" reworks, are we talking like the quasi-VGU for Aatrox? Or will minor reworks just be back to the ol' GUs like Xin Zhao's?
> [{quoted}](name=Whyte Lyon,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Zlwreqeo,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-18T14:44:24.639+0000) > > For "minor" reworks, are we talking like the quasi-VGU for Aatrox? Or will minor reworks just be back to the ol' GUs like Xin Zhao's? This minor VGU is supposed to be a full Visual rework with minor gameplay update to it, so very small scale on it. Think like Xin Zhao minor GU but with a complete Visual update
Zoli Ben (EUNE)
: Wrekz minor VGU is not Morgana?
Tier 2 looks like about this (might be inaccurate for some champions): {{champion:133}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:54}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:32}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:17}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:26}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:53}}
  Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
Tialilia (EUW)
: Comfirmed skins for Aurelion Sol and Urgot in the next months
YES STAR GUARDIAN URGOT, I AM A SON OF UR! INSTABUY!
: PBE Chat with the Playtest Team - 8.13
Give Justicar Aatrox his recall back! PLEASE!
: Who will reign: The Lion or The Wolf? #GarenWin #DariusWin
Tialilia (EUW)
: Aatrox Teaser!
My new top lane main is here finally!
: List of all the champions with first and last names.
Yorick Mori is canon because Reav3 and others said it is still his surname.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 23
Hey Meddler! I've heard Spear of Shojin might become melee only, will {{champion:6}} get some buffs? He could use some given he was not touched with massive Frozen Mallet nerf. He always is on the short end of stick because of marksman abusers...
SatomiKun (EUW)
: Half the junglers you mentioned are on the tier 1 VGU list, so they got skin embargo. {{champion:106}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:20}} But yeah, they could give skins to some of the "newer" champs like {{champion:427}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:164}}
AKGR69 (EUNE)
: Pool party candidates
{{champion:103}}
: The "minor" VGU was probably Aatrox, since his GU was upgraded to a minor VGU in the last Roadmap.
No, Jag worked on Aatrox, Wrekz is doing minor VGU and August is doing a non Akali female champ VGU.
: WAD File List Update, lets see some champs who wasn't received an update yet
The longer {{champion:6}} goes, the more I keep hoping its the Star Guardian meme skin especially after that legit meme killer news article. Sona recieved a chroma for Lunar Revel, hope its not just that.
Bultz (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Zoli Ben,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=IE0ujmzE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-04-27T20:12:38.006+0000) > > They plan to do a full VGU for Xin eventually, horses are planned there, across all skins. It will be years ahead due to his mini rework, but according to Riot he is still on the list. dope lol didn't see him on the list. cool.
He was on last year's list and Meddler said he was strong candidate for full VGU this year but decided that worser ones needed it for now so its coming later with minor rework doing its work decently.
Bultz (NA)
: Can we give XIn his horse?
They plan to do a full VGU for Xin eventually, horses are planned there, across all skins. It will be years ahead due to his mini rework, but according to Riot he is still on the list.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: April 27
Anything on {{champion:6}}? Repertoir was thinking of QoL changes last time I heard.
: Will Nunu still be a human after the update?
He might become a yordle, he either becomes a blue yordle, or wear a blue shirt, based on fist bump.
: That's a bonus I guess.
> [{quoted}](name=DarkSoul1994,realm=OCE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=m8XAOyfn,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-04-20T12:07:25.534+0000) > > That's a bonus I guess. We should all make Disco Nunu meme great again, then we will get that as his first skin.
: Any plans to bring old "Legendary" skins up to date?
Nunu bot is getting reworked to be a modern legendary skin with Nunu VGU.
: So, you know how Champions get release skins...
Only Swain got new skin, because it was meme skin and promised years ago. Nunu will probably not get new skin on launch, but all his skins, including his legendary Nunu bot and Zombie Nunu will finally be price worthy!
: Just like you've said, any tier 1 VGU candidate for me is perfect to be the next VGU candidate because nunu already got his VGU. Which is the one i'm more excited/into for. However my next number one champion rework candidate is also morde, because he deserves it next after nunu. He is also my second bet after nunu in the past. If I rank them into an order excluding kayle/morg because we guys already know that they're next after nunu (cause of the wad files ofc lol) its: Morde->mundo->pantheon->fiddlesticks->cho->voli->amumu->skarner->malph(needs an identity/real flesh out lore)->udyr->rammus->noc these are good candidates for 2019 & 2020 But if there are light VGU like aatrox inbetween these champs that I've mention, my bets are: Blitz->ez->caitlyn->veigar->quinn->wukong
> [{quoted}](name=Killaburn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=MXOf2j7T,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-04-19T20:46:06.008+0000) > > Just like you've said, any tier 1 VGU candidate for me is perfect to be the next VGU candidate because nunu already got his VGU. Which is the one i'm more excited/into for. However my next number one champion rework candidate is also morde, because he deserves it next after nunu. He is also my second bet after nunu in the past. If I rank them into an order excluding kayle/morg because we guys already know that they're next after nunu (cause of the wad files ofc lol) its: > > Morde->mundo->pantheon->fiddlesticks->cho->voli->amumu->skarner->malph(needs an identity/real flesh out lore)->udyr->rammus->noc > > these are good candidates for 2019 & 2020 > > But if there are light VGU like aatrox inbetween these champs that I've mention, my bets are: > > Blitz->ez->caitlyn->veigar->quinn->wukong Quinn is actually due for bigger work, but yes. Irelia and Swain were reworks I think should have came later, and I never liked either of those, Akali is deserved IMO, but now there aren't many worst of the worst who deserve seperation. Nunu is done, and so I should try find ideas for my ol buddy Mundo. I have a very brutal ult for him already, that suits his doctorness.
: My nunu appreciation thread
I'm so glad I was wrong when he got that buff last time, and more glad that they found the direction for him! Killaburn, who will be your new number one champion for rework? Mine is Morde, followed by Mundo, Pantheon, Udyr, Fiddlesticks, Skarner, Cho. But at this point any tier one VGU candidate is perfect.
: [Open Discussion] Star Guardian 2018 Team Comp?
They only said no to Magma Chamber in meme article, so {{champion:6}} the Star Guardian all the way.
: Why does Riot give small-scale reworks to those who barely need it while ignoring the ones that do?
They are afraid of messing up Mordekaiser til they find a suitable idea for him, so champion like Irelia Akali Kayle Morgana are chosen over him. They also refuse to rework many champ in row with same role/position. Hence why they have Swain Akali Morg Corki Kog as candidates in tier one.
Ultîma (NA)
: Will we get new stories for the Void Creatures?
{{champion:31}} and {{champion:96}} are high priority for full VGU, so I guess we will have to wait a bit
: > Thoughts? Urgot's systemic options feel pretty out of whack atm. He's clearly an exception champion, and imo, he gets the short of the stick all too often. Just last week I put a change into testing where he just got to be considered melee, though it was met with pretty negative internal feedback (which I understand). I agree he needs something, and your idea here seems like a decent compromise between being full ranged and full melee. I'm not sure what the future holds for him, but this is something I'd like to get resolved.
> I've made a previous suggestion of giving Urgot an exclusive Noxian Black Market where he can buy special Urgot-only items that work for his unique kit (such as a Frozen Mallet that functions fully on ranged attacks, only available to Urgot), but I may have found a better solution. This is the best solution, I dont want to lose Runaan, I sometimes like to buy it and the crit with shotgun from it often gets me just enough to get somebody meatgrinded, plus because of the shotgun and W synergy, it helps me catch up my farm disadvantage if I have. Please do not butcher me because I am a minority for liking ranged Urgot. True, he needs something which is why he needs this black market IMO.
: The Next Ultimate Skin (Part 4)
Fiddlesticks and Draven have perm discontinued legendaries. Surprise Party and Primetime. (Fiddle VGU will bring that skin up Im sure)
Zoli Ben (EUNE)
: Quinn needs to be moved up to tier 1 candidate VGU for the following reasons:
I do not want Quinn to be prioritized over by any other champion, just have her be in that bucket, she was already said by Reav3 to be nearing that point. I just want her on that list as she deserves a spot there with VGUs falling down
Rioter Comments
: xin zhao
Riot still intends to give him a complete VGU, this was just a holdover til they get more worser candidates off, they definitely are considering horse to be integrated into him.
: What are the character fantasies that each of the champions up for a VGU should offer?
{{champion:77}} is a shaman, who calls upon the spirits of animals. I would definitely keep his four animal forms, that is a key to his character. He must also be a juggernaut too, that is core to his identity. He must NOT gain any kind of weapons. That'd outright kill the character in my opinion. His forms need to be more meaningful and juggernaut suitable, perhaps the adaptive building like depending on how he builds or evolves would make sense like with Kai'sa. His ultimate skin MUST still be canon to his lore, I hate how they made Tyrant Swain an alternate universe lore. His emnity with {{champion:127}} needs to be expanded by all of his voice lines. He should look more Freljordian. More of his Vastayan ties needs to be explored. He also should be more of a nature friendly maybe, kinda like {{champion:427}}
: Mordekaiser, The Iron Revenant: A character Study
Morde is Death Knight. They want to keep and modernise that.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 9
{{champion:6}} Why is he getting nerfed again for being 350 range? I would even understand if he was 425 range, but he isnt anymore.
wildfox99 (EUW)
: > **Unknown tier** but mentioned a few times: {{champion:81}} (full VGU but only changes to W), {{champion:51}}& {{champion:45}} (likely just visual updates for both) {{champion:7}} (minirework scrapped for now and in past she was even a candidate for VGU) is that official? are they really going to VU ezreal before stuff like {{champion:53}} {{champion:34}} {{champion:103}} (especially her voceline or at least fix her tails) {{champion:79}}{{champion:42}} ?
Well, years ago Reav3 said he'd like do to that kind of rework of Ezreal, and Caitlyn and Veigar both mentioned for a VU ages ago, and LB mini rework is confirmed to be scrapped...
: Discussion about a Nunu VGU
He needs to be more of a defensive tank and cc he can use to gank.
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