Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 24
Hi Meddler! I know it is not exactly your field, but so many people are curious about the VGU vote results. Is there any ETA for that? MSI is over.
: I might have missed it in the Champion roadmap, but will we get to vote again on the next next VGU? I never even realized the Vote happened and was hopping there would be another in the future.
Reav3 (NA)
: We will not be doing any handicaps, no.
Will there be some vote encouraging way next time around? (IF there is gonna be a next time) Like how you get an icon for the Tristana vote if you casted a vote on it.
Reav3 (NA)
: We want to make sure the blog gets room and attention in the Client, which will be hard during MSI with all the MSI content going into the client during this time. We also have to get the data back from all the regions, see who won, write a blog about it, do feedback and iteration on the blog and then localize it for all regions. I'm hoping we can also maybe get a little more detail into our goals for the winning Champion and maybe even a little early concept art if possible, though it might be tight
So will we get it after 2nd June or next week (MSI ends on 19th May)?
Ishawnn (NA)
We do not know what the quiet majority truly thinks yet. ;)
: Which event do you think was best?
Odyssey: Feels good to be among 2% to have actually beaten the event and even the Ziggs Sona mission.
: Why check? Shouldn't there actually be an automated system in place, so they basically have all the data the very moment the vote stopped? They likely just have to make some diagrams to present the data to us nicely, does that really take 2 weeks?
: I am dying, I want Dr. Mundo to win this so badly, I need to know. But I have a bad feeling, most likely Fiddlesticks will win this or anything... x__x
Fiddle is OK to win, I accept his victory gladly, but I did everything to increase the doctor's numbers.
  Rioter Comments
: Reasons why I think Dr. Mundo deserves the 2020 VGU spot the most
I voted as much as I could have for Mundo.
: I'm actually wondering if Udyr may be up for a VGU this year, since he's pretty high on the list and wasn't one of the Champions mentioned here!
No. Quoting Reav3 "his gameplay is fine for now". Reinboom was working on a VGU that'd have came this year, but it got iceboxed (cancelled). So Odin's last VGU is no more.
: So no more full fledged vgus right?
They are not discontinuing it, just putting less focus on it, because they feel like they got through the worst offenders. There is one VGU being done by Reinboom unannounced still, since about August last year, now we gonna be voting for a 2020 one. {{champion:36}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:102}} are definitely still candidates they plan to change properly. {{champion:77}} {{champion:35}} are up there but less priority right now.
: Really wish this to happen, you know it Zoli, my dude. That's why this new roadmap really saddened me. Not only did they not give the rework to Dr. Mundo, but they even said that the rest on the list left "aren't as low quality as those who've received their VGUs already". Reading this was really discouraging. ____________ Just read about the poll. While 2020 is later than I hoped for Dr. Mundo, it is better than nothing. I really hope that he wins this....
You knew the moment they gave Mundo that skin, new particles, updated Q animation that he was not being worked on and shiny skin. Pantheon, Morde and whoever that Reinboom's VGU (Noc or Voli) definitely have recieved absolute zero stuff.
Reav3 (NA)
: I want to take a minute to answer this from my perspective. First of all our intentions of doing less VGUs and more New Champs was actually based on caring for the playerbase as well as from player feedback we have gotten over the years as we have done New Champs and VGUs. Let me go into a bit more detail though. First when I said less VGUs I didnt mean we would stop doing them, I just meant we would slow down. Expect to still see plenty of VGUs in the future, just not as many as we have been doing last year. The reason why I feel that his is coming from a caring place is this. There are many players that share your perspective, that they want their main updated, and changed. But you have to understand there are also many other players that love their Champion, and find it very frustrating when they are updated even if many other players think the update makes them way better. We have to care about these players as well, and whenever we do VGUs we also cause a lot of disruption and frustration from players over their Champion being changed. New Champions generally don't cause this player pain. Last year we actually saw a lot higher player frustration over change, partly due to how many old Champions we were updating and changing, with many older players feeling alienated by the changes. At this point, after Morde, many of the Champions we would consider for a VGU have much higher players bases then the Champions we were doing VGUs on in the past. This isn't to say there isn't value in doing them, but if we were doing them at the rate we were doing them last year, on Champions with bigger player bases, then that is many more players that would feel frustrated or alienated by the changes, even if many other players like them. This isn't to say we want to stop doing them as we feel there is value in the game feeling modern and up to date, which means we value updating the things that are getting old and dated. The Champions on the list just aren't as dated as some of the ones we did over the last couple years, and as a result the value in updating them isn't as high, and also has a higher disruption and player pain cost since the Champions have bigger player bases.
What about {{champion:81}} level reworks and champions that are unhealthy, binary and visually outdated and have low playerbase like {{champion:9}} {{champion:36}}{{champion:72}} , I would not consider last of the urgent candidates done until these are taken care of.
Moody P (NA)
: Then I'm fucked
Odin is the narrative and its his final project, he did tons of lore setup for Voli's new lore beforehand.
Moody P (NA)
: Volibear doesn't need a VGU so why would he be getting one Who is Reinboom anyway lmao I don't want some random touching my champion
She did Ezreal rework, but now doing a full VGU.
Rioter Comments
: Hi, Cadence! {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
Reav3 (NA)
: Axes
Thanks! Will Pantheon stay as a top laner or jungle?
: Pantheon is the next VGU, Roadmap would be live within minutes
Hey Reav3 if you are seeing this thread can I ask you if {{champion:80}} designer is Axes or Reinboom?
Lewanor (NA)
: Hey Reav3, what about releasing the roadmap tomorrow? On the National Children's Day?
I am so excited for {{champion:80}}, I very much hope it is him who is getting announced.
: Unpopular Opinion: There is a place to pure evil characters in Runeterra
{{champion:6}} is definitely coming up pretty high, for a human.
: I appreciate the VFX changes for Caitlyn and Blitzcrank, but......
{{champion:53}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:62}} are all candidates for VgUs and yet all just got updated effects recently. {{champion:36}} is full VGU candidate yet was done as is {{champion:31}} all I can say is stay patient. Meddler believes {{champion:53}} is most likely as next VgU and I hope he is right because of these major disconnections with his lore and dialogue.
Sirhaian (NA)
: VFX Updates for Ashe, Blitzcrank, Caitlyn and Jax, plus an SFX Update for Renekton.
Can Piltover customs and iBlitz get unique ult because both are 1350?
: Post MSI Gameplay Improvements
Are the {{champion:17}} changes scrapped?
: Divers Champion Reworks
{{champion:80}} {{champion:72}} (if you count him as one) {{champion:131}} is planned for eventual VGU {{champion:59}} is one candidate for {{champion:81}} level update, {{champion:5}} was said to eventually get a full VGU once they get through worser candidates. {{champion:62}} is being explored for some gameplay changes currently. Juggernauts: {{champion:82}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:31}} (he might become one, who knows?)
: I know he already got Conqueror, that is counted in the first list which is my primary one that I use. The second one is for people who don't count Esports related skins because every time I do one of these, someone complains that Esports skins don't count or some shit, so now I need to keep track of both types!
The point is you count Kalista Esport skin for it (Championship) else she would beat Zac in number of days. Edit: I just realised you missed counting Pool Party Zac which is from 2015 therefore Udyr and Kalista is still ahead of him.
: {{champion:36}} This guy should be under the top 3 in my opinion.
I still completely agree but Riot doesn't seem to. >:( After these are out of the way {{champion:36}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:42}} is my top 3
: Champions That Need a VU (at least to their base skin/vfx), But Not Necessarily a VGU
{{champion:42}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:35}} are full VGU candidates
: He said "I **wanted** Draven, but I think I will go with Kai'Sa", but he said that because he _wasn't allowed to pick Draven_, he would have if he would have been allowed. There is a rule that you can just pick a champion you have played at least once in the worlds in a game that actually mattered to progress.
Well, even if that game is a total failure or troll as long as that team does it in worlds and wins it in one of the many number of games they can pick it up. So like ADC wants Darius skin and decides to troll one game when they have huge advantage with it and be the champions still, they can chose it.
: 15 champs over 1000 days w/o a new skin (April 2019)
{{champion:80}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:56}} might be the 3 highest priority for the next VGUs, there is two VGU in development, likely coming in 2019 and I am sure two of this three will be reworked.
: 15 champs over 1000 days w/o a new skin (April 2019)
{{champion:110}} has Conqueror, Conqueror Championship and Victorious are chosen by Riot therefore you should change the list, Riot said on multiple accounts that they def count because they only chose skins for them if there is no other skins in development for them, plus you already counted in Championship Kalista.
Mortdog (NA)
: April Fools VS. Event Mission List
Revert my account. I wasn't let known of this mission lockout...
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 27
Hi! What's the {{champion:6}} nerfs?
: Why 2020 would be the best year to VGU Vladimir
Don't get me wrong, I want {{champion:8}} VGU, but these champs need it more: {{champion:80}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:77}} right now. If we are lucky though, most of these should be done by the end of 2020 if we assume that the 2 VGU in development is both this year and we get 5 next year.
: Cho'Gath: Why is he important, and how can we make him matter?
{{champion:31}} is one of the characters been hardstuck at VGU list for ages, he has massive potential but Riot is chosing worser or more popular appealing targets. {{champion:80}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:36}} likely taking the priority after {{champion:82}} in that order, but depends on how they chose.
: Right now, I consider Talon as the most likely candidate to represent the "Assassination Club" which got mentioned in the teaser. Of course, we can't be sure at this point, just my personal opinion here. But at least we kinda know that Jayce is the engineer now. :D
{{champion:55}} sits at 500 day of no skin.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 20
Do you think {{champion:6}} is overbuffed?
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 13
Hi Meddler! Can I ask if you guys are worried about {{champion:6}} perma W going overboard? As an Urgot Main I am very scared it turning into a Galio Q like scenario...
Naalith (NA)
: They actually did it
Corgi is real now too! Two memes slain at once!
: @Reav3 Next Champ to receive a Splash Art Update
{{champion:112}} only got texture update and gameplay update + new base splash.
: I'm getting concerned about the KnM login theme...
They arrived onto PBE just now. ;)
: Star Guardian Top Laner/Jungler?
Just make {{champion:6}} into it, and you already have top laner, add in {{champion:164}} and you got a top/jg in one go.
Saelon (NA)
: If Riot wants us to stop asking to update skins then lower the price of the skins
Reav3 confirmed that these changes do not apply to 1350 and above. They will 100% not get ignored, he even said they'd bring {{champion:42}} two legendaries Red Baron and Ice Toboggan up to date to be called as legendaries and he is on the VGU list for example. {{champion:36}} {{champion:31}} also have worser legendaries and they are also up there, they won't be exception. But, I do feel super bad at champions without decent skins to be reworked like {{champion:82}} {{champion:106}} since they only have few 975s and even that is not guaranteed for VFX/recall anymore. I have hope for Pentakill though.
: On this day, NINE years ago, Mordekaiser was released unto the live servers
The most metal champion of the game, who will finally truly live up to this title. {{champion:82}} I am ready to give a chance to play the new you. I want to enjoy his AP Juggernaut style, just like I enjoy ranged juggernaut with {{champion:6}}.
Riot Jag (NA)
: Teemo changes temporarily on PBE for early feedback
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 22
Hey Meddler! Thoughts on tank top laners?
Frostfel (NA)
: Rework Kayle Skins
You left out Pentakill, my favourite. :(
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 20
Hi Meddler! Thoughts on tank top laners current state?
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