Kimimi (EUNE)
: Who do you think are getting this year's Star Guardian skins?
Arakadia (NA)
: Unfortunately Riot only has so much time for so many skins in the year. I doubt they wanted to skip SG but they have to prioritize things in order to make sure they schedule themselves properly.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=3VEUrWIg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-16T04:24:53.224+0000) > > Unfortunately Riot only has so much time for so many skins in the year. I doubt they wanted to skip SG but they have to prioritize things in order to make sure they schedule themselves properly. The skins itself are coming, just not with a buyable event pass/shop.
: @Reav3 Current VGU List?
With assuming that {{champion:102}} will be slotted for next year given her insane demand in China the current list without new candidates look like this {{champion:31}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:35}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:77}} If you are here Reav3, can I ask if {{champion:5}}, {{champion:96}} {{champion:32}} has moved back in, or any other champions joined the list? We want that horse on {{champion:5}}
Mitsuk3 (EUW)
: We want SG Urgot, nothing else
soopcan (NA)
: {{champion:14}} > {{champion:6}} "So, uh, Urgot, we can't hang out anymore, I'm cool now." Clearly it was meant for old Urgot, as it seems to have been removed a while ago
> [{quoted}](name=soopcan,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=tyYl5wg9,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-11T04:01:03.843+0000) > > {{champion:14}} > {{champion:6}} > "So, uh, Urgot, we can't hang out anymore, I'm cool now." > Clearly it was meant for old Urgot, as it seems to have been removed a while ago What do you mean? I still get that interaction when I spam the correct option.
ÜÐYR (EUW)
: udyr SKIN !
Give him a VGU first, he is probably going to be the one already requiring insane visual works thanks to ultimate
usul1202 (NA)
: What's your 'it happened in a dream' skin?
Star Guardian {{champion:6}}
EdgeLady (NA)
: Dynasty Ahri is actually based on Imperial Korea, not Imperial China (though Imperial Korea based itself a *lot* off of Imperial China), so technically, a skin in the Lunar Revel/Immortal Journey Universe wouldn't *exactly* be repetitive. If there's a Pool Party event this year, that's the skin I'm expecting her to get. If not, then likely a Snowdown skin (she surprisingly doesn't have one of those). But I actually think it would be interesting to see her in Eclipse of Omen of the Dark...because she has to get a skin a year so why not make them interesting? {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
Its confirmed that pool party is being skipped in favour of Arcade. https://twitter.com/Spideraxe30/status/1143007129227419649
Reav3 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=LoveNacho,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=aYgz5mUf,comment-id=000200000006,timestamp=2019-07-01T13:09:18.458+0000) > > When do you think we will see the next champion roadmap? Will it be after Pantheon's rework or slightly before? Probably not going to be another roadmap for awhile since everyone already knows we are working on Fiddle and Volibear. There will however be a dev blog update on Voli and Fiddle in the next month or so
Will that next roadmap reveal the VGU after Voli/Fiddle or just talk about new champs?
EdgeLady (NA)
: Baker Pantheon will also likely be kept, since it has four other champions in the splash art with their skins (including Master Chef Kench in the background).
It will just be tweaked, same will also apply to Zombie Slayer.
: Will Dragonslayer Pantheon keep his current splash art?
Most likely it will be kept, they rarely fully replace splashes from 2013 and beyond. Only exceptions are Riot Kayle, Blade Mistress Morgana and Aether Wing Kayle in terms of skin splashes.
KueˆT (NA)
: What about Demacian Vice Garen and Lucy????
It is coming to live in 3 weeks.
: It's time for a mid-2019 lore update check-in!
{{champion:54}} {{champion:26}} {{champion:72}} lore update just in, woohoo.
: I just found out that they were made for Riot's annual 48 hours game challenge. Wait Papercraft skins failed? huh, I thought people loved them from what I have seen...
I am Carlos said that profit wise they both did not hit the bar (which was set in according to the fact that they both are niche champions).
: Waiiit wasn't that Lucian skin leaked like a long long time ago??
They were made for something else, but Riot decided to test the waters with this two and if its a hit it will be expanded. {{champion:122}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:254}} are in the line if I recall correctly. Papercraft failed badly as experiment but these are popular, broad champs so its gonna be okay IMO.
: I mainly say Eve for 2 reasons. 1) she's popular 2) the skin line traditionally releases with at least one morally questionable one right? I.E. Syndra, Jinx. I'm not saying Eve cause that's who I want, but because that's the direction it seems to point for me.
{{champion:28}} is about as played as {{champion:6}}
im small (EUW)
: Star Guardian 2019 predictions!
{{champion:6}} is my desire but money speaks really, which is why we have Battle Boss Yasuo (he is nowhere remotely Battle Bossy like Brand, Ziggs, Malzahar) Arcade killed last spark of hope for me so I bet {{champion:518}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:497}}
: Why of all champions did Yasuo get the Battle Boss Skin??? Why not Karthus, Cho'gath, or Mordekaiser. Champions that would actually fit the theme of a final boss. {{sticker:sg-ahri-1}}
$$$$ is the reason. I want things to go back to being mix of popular and lesser popular....
Sukishoo (NA)
: Fiddle last got a 1350 in 2018 and is now ready for his 2020 update. So getting skins doesn't really disqualify a champion for a VGU
Well, he now is on official blacklist because he is being worked on, it really is about the fact that if they work on him then no, they can't get a skin. They don't blacklist for simply being considered anymore. If work is being done, that is when they get blocked 99% of time (SSG Ezreal is exception).
: That so few people voted for Dr. Mundo amazes me. Unfortunately, like many have pointed out already, this actually wasn't a fair contest for "who needs the update the most" and more of a popularity contest as it seems. I hope they will still give Dr. Mundo an update next year, it depresses me that this champion is sitting on these visuals for such a long time.
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TAVXyd9k,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-01T09:58:46.019+0000) > > That so few people voted for Dr. Mundo amazes me. > > Unfortunately, like many have pointed out already, this actually wasn't a fair contest for "who needs the update the most" and more of a popularity contest as it seems. I hope they will still give Dr. Mundo an update next year, it depresses me that this champion is sitting on these visuals for such a long time. I am going to speak the harsh truth. Riot has said they are slowing down on VGUs, I count that as them going 70 30 in favour of new champs. So that leaves 1 slot open for 2020. Thats right, Shyvana will take it because they cant ignore Chinese playerbase.
Rioter Comments
: What Champs Do You Want to See New Skins For Next?
Aamano (NA)
: @Riot, please bring back King of Clubs Morde's long flowing cape
His cape is still present, yo. https://imgur.com/a/PBUZPAU
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: May 24
Hi Meddler! I know it is not exactly your field, but so many people are curious about the VGU vote results. Is there any ETA for that? MSI is over.
: I might have missed it in the Champion roadmap, but will we get to vote again on the next next VGU? I never even realized the Vote happened and was hopping there would be another in the future.
Reav3 (NA)
: We will not be doing any handicaps, no.
Will there be some vote encouraging way next time around? (IF there is gonna be a next time) Like how you get an icon for the Tristana vote if you casted a vote on it.
Reav3 (NA)
: We want to make sure the blog gets room and attention in the Client, which will be hard during MSI with all the MSI content going into the client during this time. We also have to get the data back from all the regions, see who won, write a blog about it, do feedback and iteration on the blog and then localize it for all regions. I'm hoping we can also maybe get a little more detail into our goals for the winning Champion and maybe even a little early concept art if possible, though it might be tight
So will we get it after 2nd June or next week (MSI ends on 19th May)?
Ishawnn (NA)
: ITS FIDDLE VS VOLI RIGHT NOW
We do not know what the quiet majority truly thinks yet. ;)
: Which event do you think was best?
Odyssey: Feels good to be among 2% to have actually beaten the event and even the Ziggs Sona mission.
: Why check? Shouldn't there actually be an automated system in place, so they basically have all the data the very moment the vote stopped? They likely just have to make some diagrams to present the data to us nicely, does that really take 2 weeks?
: I am dying, I want Dr. Mundo to win this so badly, I need to know. But I have a bad feeling, most likely Fiddlesticks will win this or anything... x__x
Fiddle is OK to win, I accept his victory gladly, but I did everything to increase the doctor's numbers.
  Rioter Comments
: Reasons why I think Dr. Mundo deserves the 2020 VGU spot the most
I voted as much as I could have for Mundo.
: I'm actually wondering if Udyr may be up for a VGU this year, since he's pretty high on the list and wasn't one of the Champions mentioned here!
No. Quoting Reav3 "his gameplay is fine for now". Reinboom was working on a VGU that'd have came this year, but it got iceboxed (cancelled). So Odin's last VGU is no more.
: So no more full fledged vgus right?
They are not discontinuing it, just putting less focus on it, because they feel like they got through the worst offenders. There is one VGU being done by Reinboom unannounced still, since about August last year, now we gonna be voting for a 2020 one. {{champion:36}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:72}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:102}} are definitely still candidates they plan to change properly. {{champion:77}} {{champion:35}} are up there but less priority right now.
: Really wish this to happen, you know it Zoli, my dude. That's why this new roadmap really saddened me. Not only did they not give the rework to Dr. Mundo, but they even said that the rest on the list left "aren't as low quality as those who've received their VGUs already". Reading this was really discouraging. ____________ Just read about the poll. While 2020 is later than I hoped for Dr. Mundo, it is better than nothing. I really hope that he wins this....
You knew the moment they gave Mundo that skin, new particles, updated Q animation that he was not being worked on and shiny skin. Pantheon, Morde and whoever that Reinboom's VGU (Noc or Voli) definitely have recieved absolute zero stuff.
Reav3 (NA)
: I want to take a minute to answer this from my perspective. First of all our intentions of doing less VGUs and more New Champs was actually based on caring for the playerbase as well as from player feedback we have gotten over the years as we have done New Champs and VGUs. Let me go into a bit more detail though. First when I said less VGUs I didnt mean we would stop doing them, I just meant we would slow down. Expect to still see plenty of VGUs in the future, just not as many as we have been doing last year. The reason why I feel that his is coming from a caring place is this. There are many players that share your perspective, that they want their main updated, and changed. But you have to understand there are also many other players that love their Champion, and find it very frustrating when they are updated even if many other players think the update makes them way better. We have to care about these players as well, and whenever we do VGUs we also cause a lot of disruption and frustration from players over their Champion being changed. New Champions generally don't cause this player pain. Last year we actually saw a lot higher player frustration over change, partly due to how many old Champions we were updating and changing, with many older players feeling alienated by the changes. At this point, after Morde, many of the Champions we would consider for a VGU have much higher players bases then the Champions we were doing VGUs on in the past. This isn't to say there isn't value in doing them, but if we were doing them at the rate we were doing them last year, on Champions with bigger player bases, then that is many more players that would feel frustrated or alienated by the changes, even if many other players like them. This isn't to say we want to stop doing them as we feel there is value in the game feeling modern and up to date, which means we value updating the things that are getting old and dated. The Champions on the list just aren't as dated as some of the ones we did over the last couple years, and as a result the value in updating them isn't as high, and also has a higher disruption and player pain cost since the Champions have bigger player bases.
What about {{champion:81}} level reworks and champions that are unhealthy, binary and visually outdated and have low playerbase like {{champion:9}} {{champion:36}}{{champion:72}} , I would not consider last of the urgent candidates done until these are taken care of.
Moody P (NA)
: Then I'm fucked
Odin is the narrative and its his final project, he did tons of lore setup for Voli's new lore beforehand.
Moody P (NA)
: Volibear doesn't need a VGU so why would he be getting one Who is Reinboom anyway lmao I don't want some random touching my champion
She did Ezreal rework, but now doing a full VGU.
Rioter Comments
: Hi, Cadence! {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
Reav3 (NA)
: Axes
Thanks! Will Pantheon stay as a top laner or jungle?
: Pantheon is the next VGU, Roadmap would be live within minutes
Hey Reav3 if you are seeing this thread can I ask you if {{champion:80}} designer is Axes or Reinboom?
Lewanor (NA)
: Hey Reav3, what about releasing the roadmap tomorrow? On the National Children's Day?
I am so excited for {{champion:80}}, I very much hope it is him who is getting announced.
: Unpopular Opinion: There is a place to pure evil characters in Runeterra
{{champion:6}} is definitely coming up pretty high, for a human.
: I appreciate the VFX changes for Caitlyn and Blitzcrank, but......
{{champion:53}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:85}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:62}} are all candidates for VgUs and yet all just got updated effects recently. {{champion:36}} is full VGU candidate yet was done as is {{champion:31}} all I can say is stay patient. Meddler believes {{champion:53}} is most likely as next VgU and I hope he is right because of these major disconnections with his lore and dialogue.
Sirhaian (NA)
: VFX Updates for Ashe, Blitzcrank, Caitlyn and Jax, plus an SFX Update for Renekton.
Can Piltover customs and iBlitz get unique ult because both are 1350?
: Post MSI Gameplay Improvements
Are the {{champion:17}} changes scrapped?
: Divers Champion Reworks
{{champion:80}} {{champion:72}} (if you count him as one) {{champion:131}} is planned for eventual VGU {{champion:59}} is one candidate for {{champion:81}} level update, {{champion:5}} was said to eventually get a full VGU once they get through worser candidates. {{champion:62}} is being explored for some gameplay changes currently. Juggernauts: {{champion:82}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:31}} (he might become one, who knows?)
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