: Which opposing champions would you like to see in a future VS. Event?
Outside of the lore options, I would also like to see some other options, such as: {{champion:30}} VS {{champion:37}} - the best music maker {{champion:77}} VS {{champion:64}} - the best hand to hand fighter {{champion:202}} VS {{champion:51}} - the best sniper {{champion:412}} VS {{champion:53}} or VS {{champion:111}} - best tank support with hook {{champion:110}} VS {{champion:22}} - best archer {{champion:103}} VS {{champion:28}}- best seducer {{champion:34}} VS {{champion:63}} - fire and ice, I mean come on
Danjeng (NA)
: I don't think you appreciate the cuteness of the current minions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mcb8Ysf-NQ
That should be the next event: Cute minions VS Epic minions.
: Minion update looks great!
I agree, those soldiers look really good. I would even like them to replace the current minions, not just for events but permanently. It would bring more of an epic feeling to the game, making the lanes feel like an actual battleground, wouldn't you agree?
NemeBro (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=calibergunsaint,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NWHczAlK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-15T12:53:40.559+0000) > > Oh yes, because only those Filthy Weaboos can like a semi-skilled champion, with multiple sides to his personality, that is actually feeling something and expressing it through some pure anger and hate, making us question his motive and others' alike. I don't know about weaboos, but only plebeians would applaud Riot spoon-feeding a champion that does very low damage, gets blown the fuck out 1v1 by pretty much any other fighter, and is essentially now a supportive CC fighter. A tank, really. Oh, and his personality is still boring, but now it is boring and drastically different, so it's worse by default. Expand on what was there, don't throw it away. Whoever is in charge of the VOs these days is honestly incompetent. The last few have been incredibly boring and dry.
"Oh, and his personality is still boring, but now it is boring and drastically different, so it's worse by default. Expand on what was there, don't throw it away." So his old version is boring and bad, his new version is different, therefore it's bad, and what Riot should have done was to expand on the past version, explain his motives and reasons and to progress his story, which would have been in the old version, therefore it would have been boring. What. " a champion that does very low damage, gets blown the fuck out 1v1 by pretty much any other fighter, and is essentially now a supportive CC fighter. A tank, really." Oh no, what ever shall the players do with this? It's not like they can take the exact same rune they're taking now on him, combine him with his passive that deals % of max hp and reduces shields, and his E passive which gives him sustain for the dmg he's doing. No, Aatrox is again thrown to the gutter, left alone to rot and to be considered a troll pick. "Whoever is in charge of the VOs these days is honestly incompetent. The last few have been incredibly boring and dry." I agree totally, Swain's lines were awful and were just for the lore geeks, Irelia? pfff, Pyke also. I mean, we get it, you were revived by a mysterious force, you want revenge and you're basically insane, stop going around and talking about a supernatural city that swims, about your revenge, just stop. Kai'sa???? I mean, you would think that killing Void monsters would make a charcter vivid and expressive, but no, Riot chose to give the survivor of countless attacks by monsters and getting thrown into their realm a gloomy, lonely and numb voice. What a bad team.
: Why is Taliyah so Taliyugly?
Although Runeterra is a magical place, I don't think that it makes every girl there a super model at birth. I mean, look at the women of our world, not everyone can participate in a Victoria's Secret show. Same thing with the women of LoL.
Toppien (NA)
: shes ulgy to me... {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}} but not because her appareance, but because she's Yasuo's pupil and is a naive girl who dont understands the greatness of Azir also she buils walls so shes like a little trump champ XD
Wait, so you praise Azir for being great but then laugh on Trump, although both Azir and Trump want to make their nation great again, and believe that it can be done under their rule, making them look and sound alike. I don't care if that was a troll response, it's still hypocritical as all hell.
Rioter Comments
: Champion Concept
We already have that, well, half of that idea, in Twisted Fate's ult. His ult not only teleports him, but reveals all enemies on the map. Quinn too can reveal enemies and wards in a basic abillty, but in a certain range. Btw, the second half sounds kinda OP, just for the reason you can clear out so many wards and make the enemy team waste precious money and time placing the wards down, so maybe change the destroying part and replace it with making them inactive while the ult is up, and when you upgrade the ult, you upgrade its duration, so players will have to upgrade it.
AviSolus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GreenLore,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NYkJUzs9,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-21T08:47:11.789+0000) > > When does any accent have any deeper meaning? > > I mean {{champion:114}} has a french accent for no reason. Exactly why I demand Aatrox's to be removed. And there are some accents that help the character's personality/agenda, like Viktor for his not-so-communist revolution or Kled's western accent for his practical insanity.
Waitwaitwaitwait, you're saying that giving a revolutionary inventor with a different vision for the future a Russian accent is ok, giving an insane alcholoic animal abusing yordle an American western accent is ok, but giving a noble dualist from a respected, wealthy and impacting house of noblemen a French accent is not ok, and giving an ancient proud warrior that's been locked away for hundreds of years an old Slavic/ German accent is 100% not ok. Ladies and Gentlemen, hypocrisy at its finest.
AviSolus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=calibergunsaint,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NYkJUzs9,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-21T09:53:38.453+0000) > > Yes, because the accent part of a charcter always serves as depth or as an ulterior meaning to the the charcter, not simply to distinguish him from other champs of the same kind. > And it isn't confirmed yet that he is from Shurima, only that he served Shurima against the Void, so... You can easily distinguish champions without using a ridiculous accent, just modify his voice like WW.
Problem is that the base voice tone and sound kinda resemble the ones of the voice of Rhaast, so I'm guessing they added the accent instead of a modification so that people won't complain he sounds just like Rhaast. True, even with the accent, he still sounds kinda like a German version of Rhaast, but if it's a different version of him, that you can distinguish from one another, it's a job kinda well done, tbh.
AviSolus (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=calibergunsaint,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NYkJUzs9,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-06-21T09:57:40.102+0000) > > In that case, Aatrox's Russian/German accent works, because it's giving him a more cruel, unforgiving and harsh, yet prideful voice and tone, such as the champion himself. Most of his cruelty and harshness comes more from the actor's tone and word emphasis rather than their accent, lest you think that all Russian/Slavic accents are inherently harsh, cruel, and prideful.
Well, I live in a house with a Russian family, and let me tell you, they can be harsh if they wanted to. That's what happend with voicing Aatrox, he sounds really harsh on purpose, the accent just makes the harshness and cruelty stronger.
: Jax's Passive
I'm guessing it's like fishing, the moment he finds and hooks the fish, he starts reeling in the fish, reeling faster and faster the closer the fish gets, like when he's fighting someone, he keeps hiting him faster and faster until they submit.
: I think a Rioter recently made an argument about it adding even more to her concept as a noble/high-class, probably due to common associations of the French language and culture with nobility, elegance, etc.
In that case, Aatrox's Russian/German accent works, because it's giving him a more cruel, unforgiving and harsh, yet prideful voice and tone, such as the champion himself.
AviSolus (NA)
: Please get rid of new Aatrox's god-awful accent
Yes, because the accent part of a charcter always serves as depth or as an ulterior meaning to the the charcter, not simply to distinguish him from other champs of the same kind. And it isn't confirmed yet that he is from Shurima, only that he served Shurima against the Void, so...
: I dont buy the "ult clarity" excuse for not giving aatrox his banner wings
To be honest, it looks more practical. With new Aatrox leaping in spinning himself and his greatsword in the air, I think it's a good choice to remove the banners, they could get in the way. "so why give him wings at all if they can get in the way???" Because he can control his wings. They are a part of him now, so he can move them as he wishes, not like the old banners. And it makes more sense from the lore side, he longer inspires one army to fight another, with him being in the front of the army, carrying the war banners to give them hope and courage, he now insults and taunts all armies to fight him alone, so that he can end the world and die in the process. New Aatrox doesn't need the banners bcause he's not fighting for and alongside an army, he fights for himself, and he fuckin shouts his name before doing so.
: I rather see a marksman get it so we can have a pentakill team comp
That would be pretty awesome. If I had to guess, it would need to be a marksmen with a bow, like Ashe and Varus, so that the model of the bow can be designed to look like a guitar, that way it looks like they're actually playing music while pulling and releasing the string.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: I mean... to a certain extent, I think it has to be pretty extreme for *anyone* to sympathize with Chaos. "I'm a just ruler who cares for his people and everyone can live in a free and egalitarian society and no one is sad and we all lived happily ever after" is pretty hard to argue with.
"Yes, I Care for my people and want to unite them with equal rights and happiness, BUT only if they respect and love ME, and only ME, and if they don't love ME they can go to hell, if they chose other gods, which I totally hate and disrespect although they possibly have more power then me, then they are fools! I'M the GREATEST RULER OF ALL TIME and everyone should love ME because I'M THE KING, BTW I got crowned as THE KING just because my ancestor kind of brought light to the world, not because of MY abillities or skills, FYI" Doesn't seem really extreme for me, I mean all of GK Garen's lines sound like this, so it's pretty obvious that there's something wrong there.
: Oh yes, because only those Filthy Weaboos can like a semi-skilled champion, with multiple sides to his personality, that is actually feeling something and expressing it through some pure anger and hate, making us question his motive and others' alike.
Btw, a serious question that I hope won't hurt anyone: Wasn't the main part of players who played old Aatrox composed of Otakus and Weaboos? I mean, then and now, he's a fucking immortal alien war god, carrying a living sword and has an obssesion for fighting. To me that actually sounds quite anime like, so... Yeah, I would agree that mostly weaboos would like the rework, if mostly weaboos actually liked the old version.
: Only extreme weaboos will like the rework and riot will only answer to the weaboos thread who defend
Oh yes, because only those Filthy Weaboos can like a semi-skilled champion, with multiple sides to his personality, that is actually feeling something and expressing it through some pure anger and hate, making us question his motive and others' alike.
Rioter Comments
: Most of the people who defend the Aatrox rework are not Aatrox players.
Well, yeah. That's what happens with a lot of reworks, of course the mains won't defend the rework, they don't want the champion to change.
: I find it honestly strange that there seem to be so many Aatrox players who were totally invested in his character and backstory before the update. Like, where was everyone before this?
I know, right? If he was really was this deep, complex mastermind behind some of the most horrific battles humanity has ever seen, where were the posts about it? Honestly, it's like they just don't like the rework itself and want to salvage something from old Aatrox, and then they remember "oh shit he actually has a really big and good lore and voice" and decided in the sub-reddit of the mains to unite and get the old voice back.
JCPANDIT (OCE)
: Having Aatrox maintain his calm and stoic personality - only to become enraged in his lines to hated foes (Panth, Zoe, etc.) - would have been a really nice contrast. And the issue is, the oppprtunity was there. Not _all_ of his lines had to be said as angry shouty man, but that’s the direction that the voice actor and voice director chose. I think that was their biggest mistake with the voice. In fact, I think some of his lines would have sounded much better if they were spoken more calmly; giving them a more sinister feel. I don’t agree with people thinking he’s now a flat, one-dimensional character. I think Aatrox is more nuanced than people are giving him credit for. He expresses a whole range of emotions, which I think is awesome. I just think it would’ve been better if these emotions were contrasted with a calmer default. Even the special interactions aren’t a bad thing. I can see why he makes jokes; he’s amusing himself. I just think the angry delivery towards almost everyone is out-of-place. His lines to Akali and Anivia, for example, could be less shouty and more sinister. TLDR; the voice acting has taken away from people realising his potential. He should sound more sinister than angry in most of his interactions.
I agree for the most part, he's mainly amusing himself, he's angry and mad, but still kind of melancholic and sad at the same time, not sure what his purpose is or who to trust, since everyone he knew betreyed him. yet I still belive that him being angry all the time is a bit better then sinster, I mean he's a warrior taken out of the fight for years, he's gotta be pissed.
: Aatrox became what his old character would make others become.
Well, he does have a line that goes: "Am I the abyss? Or did I gaze into it?" He looked WAY too long in the mirror, for sure.
: ***
Swain. Warwick. Galio. Irelia. Yeah, it's a really bad team, no good comes out of their work.
wolvius (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=calibergunsaint,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FPkdqvJW,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-06-13T10:16:03.638+0000) > > Oh I'm sorry, appearntly making jokes is forbidden on entities. Didn't get the memo. Neither did Varus.
Finally, someone said it. Was waiting the entire time for someone to say it
: > [{quoted}](name=calibergunsaint,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FPkdqvJW,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-13T10:33:00.396+0000) > > Again, Is self amusment and joking forbidden on a charcter who has some serious power? Do you want him mad and grumpy all the time? > Cause guess what, that is what old Aatrox was, and that's why he got new voicelines. That's not why he got new voicelines, it wasn't because that idea is inherently terrible and this is evidence of that. It's because he got reworked and he's an old champion and old champions only had a few dozen voice lines. Also, "mad and grumpy all the time" says more about your ideas about the character than the character himself.
No, mad and grumpey says more about others expectitons from him, they wanted the serious dark lord that moves armies and schemes, a reason they didn't keep those lines or lines of similar ideas are because they were bad.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: He could be like Renekton? They share a similar destiny. Why couldn't he be scarier like him and less joke? >Do you want him mad and grumpy all the time? He is still mad. Kled level mad. Joking like an idiot, someone you can't take serious.
Yeah, cause Renekton suffering from PTSD and stockholm syndrome is so alike to the narcissism and god complex of Aatrox. And why do you think he's mad? He's the World Ender, he's got the title for a reason. Kled probably suffers from some mental illness or he's just really drunk on mushroom juice, but Aatrox isn't. Aatrox jokes for his amusement.( and for the amusment of some people, like me).
: {{champion:136}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:101}} {{champion:141}} Right, fools we would be for thinking such a thing, obviously a character with his story couldn't have a different voice over. "Now picture him loose from his prison, ready to unleash havoc and mayhem where ever he goes, ready to get revenge for his brothers and sisters and letting the world know that he has returned to destroy them for what they did to him." Like his jokes? as you replied to numerous people before me:"Oh I'm sorry, appearntly making jokes is forbidden on entities. Didn't get the memo.", but do they fit the character you potrayed? I don't think so., that's cause he has a personality and as such it is full of facets. So yeah, I thought about it and it could have been different.
Well the jokes don't fit the archtype, but as you said, a charcter can't have only one face, it should have many, the jokes are the side of Aatrox that wants amusemnet.
: Please for the love of Draven.
Wait, you hate the fact that he kinda sounds like Schwarzenegger? The freaking Terminator? Dude that's your problem, not the voice's problem.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Not this much. We are playing a god of war architype, not a fucking clown.
Again, Is self amusment and joking forbidden on a charcter who has some serious power? Do you want him mad and grumpy all the time? Cause guess what, that is what old Aatrox was, and that's why he got new voicelines.
: So you're telling me lines such as: "Violence is elegance." "Rage against the dying of light." "Let fear become fury" "Witness truth." - upon casting ultimate. - Sound like some teenage pulling others to drink beer? Wtf? What teenager uses metaphors to invite others to beer? But that's not even the point, my main gripe with this VO is the voice. The VOICE not what he says. Some of his lines are really good, especially the mastery ones but the voice completely ruins his character and takes me out of it. The new version is immature and sounds like an impatient little shit who makes too many promises on how great he is. Who gives a shit? Actions speak louders than words. And..what do you mean "as a shadow of an army"? If you've read his old lore, he was never a shadow. He literally inspired soldiers to fight with tenfold strength because of how he moved as one with his blade in the middle of the battlefied. The soldiers became so powerful that the atrocities they commited became so horrible that they knew they had been corrupted by war to ever return to sanity. THAT is the power Aatrox had over everyone. He inspired men to reveal the horrors they were capable of until it was too late for them...too late for them all. "I know what lurks in the hearts of men." It's pointing to the fact that monsters lie dormant in everyone, they just have to have the will to unleash them. It's the natural state of living to old Aatrox. This kind of writing is really good from a narrative standpoint as it gives him some flexible motivation to act on his will. He didn't just scream in your face cuz he was mad and wanted some...revenge for being trapped in a sword like a little bitch. He is shallow and highly egocentric without purpose and without any maturity. The lines he says would make just as much sense if Veigar said them. And my Watchers example was a hypothetical one. Have you never been in an argument before?
I didn't realize you meant the actual voice, sorry about that. What I meant to say in my examples was that considering he was betreyed by the humans and got locked away inside his blade, he should feel rageful and impatient, proud and narcissistic of what he is, who he is, and that he returned, rather then spend his time inspireing some losing soldiers to fight again and again, only for them to reveal that they killed innocent people. That actually sounds like something a real douchebag would do, to have all that power and influence, only to spent some time finding underdogs, telling them they would win, and then when they find out they killed people who didn't do anything wrong, he disappears like Kevin Spacey in The Usual Suspects. Do we even know why he did it? for what purpose? Because if we don't, his character isn't that complex and deep like everyone keeps saying in this board. While old Aatrox loved the aftermath effects of his invovment in the fight,even calling them his artworks, new Aatrox loves the fight itself, taunting people to fight, not inspireing one army to succeed, but to armies to antagonize him, to fight him, as one of his quotes is: "I'm not your enemy, I'm **the** enemy." That's what I and others expect when we hear a really angry, really powerful and immortal Darkin. A good comparrison to him is Augus from Asura's wrath. You also said that his voice undermines the Identity of the Darkin. So a person that is a part of a proud warrior race, who screams that he's a part of that race, clearly in pride, is a bad voice? what????????? Is being amused and having fun with insults and jokes such a dishonor on the Darkin race and their legecy? BTW your Watchers example, still wrong. The Watchers being Yordles doesn't change or insult the fact that they still have some serious power, neither does Aatrox making jokes. It would make sense if the rumors on the Watchers turned out to be wrong because they're yordles, but since they still have the power, like you said, it doesn't contradict them being Yordles, but rather makes it a bit anti-climactic. I've been in an argument. Have you?
Fasmodey (EUW)
: "Narcissistic, meglomaniac, proud, bloodthirsty , rageful, Megatron like" entity wouldn't try to be funny, make stupid jokes and sarcasms. If he was more serious but also the features above, I could handle it. But he is now a total joke, a walking meme. Almost Kled like. They are both murderers but you can't take them serious. Sad part is, you try to find one serious, not tended to be funny interaction, only to you think you find the one but in the end there is another forced fun. Look at the Taric quote. "Not today obviously." Beyond trash.
Oh I'm sorry, appearntly making jokes is forbidden on entities. Didn't get the memo.
Rioter Comments
: Have you hear his VO? He literally sounds like Disney Dracula with a moronic amount of jokes woven into his speech. He speaks with a ridiculous English accent and the voice is not intimidating in the fucking SLIGHTEST! Look up the current Aatrox's VO and compare it with this moustache-twirling generic idiot. They are NOT the same person. Or, even better, go watch the teaser just one time. And then ask yourself, when that demon-looking leviathan is looking down on you, would you really expect them to go "We all agreed on the double A thing, Varus. The Double A thing!" with a stiff British accent and a voice that just reeks of comic relief? Just look at him! Those soul-draining eyes looking down on you with the wails of a thousand armies before yours..to make a joke like that? And as a taunt? I don't care if the atrocities he's commited are the worst Runeterra could imagine, his voice is completely out of place and so is his composure. If you're going to tell me that all villains who aspire death and destruction or pure chaos are like Rhaast then tell me what about the Joker? What about Thanos? What about Hannibal Lecter? All are insane but have their own perspectives on it to allow themselves to embrace it. When you are **eeeeeeveeeelllll mwahahahaa** then you kinda lack any and ALL depth as a character. You are from a writer's standpoint a **literal** cartoon villain, designed to be evil. And be careful here, i'm not saying he doesn't have lore, i'm saying his VO completely undermines everything he stands for and has ever stood for - the identity of the Darkin. They are the only "unknown" race that we've had who were revamped into something interesting in the image of Aatrox and their general lore revealed. It's like revealing the Watchers to be a clan of fucking Yordles who run around smiling and are basically different versions of Ziggs because "They're the same race." In case you don't know, the Watchers are hinted to be the catalyst-creatures for when Lissandra literally freezes the entire world of Runeterra. Imagine creatures with that kind of power...as yordles. PS: You don't have to have the same goddamn voice to match the race of the character. Humans sound completely different from one another and Aatrox is a completely separate creature from Rhaast. The Live version of Aatrox would have been just fine as a Darkin to begin with given he is the first Darkin we had. And he's the oldest. What gives Rhaast the right to be the "audio template" for Aatrox?
Dude I think you gave the old voice a bit too much credit, I mean his old voice lines can be summrized with "fighting is good, you should totally do it", like some teenager pulling others to drink beer for the first time. This new version is goddamn angry, he got stuck in a greatsword by either Zoe or another host of the aspect, for hundreds of years. Of course he sounds like an old british/ german guy, he got stuck in that sword in the time when everyone spoke like an arisocrat. Also, his old motive of fighting is still there, he still wishes everyone he meets to fight, but not a bystander anymore, not as the shadow that moves one army, but now invites two armies and flies right into the middle of the fight to kill both sides. This Aatrox isn't like Lissandra, pulling tricks and and making everyone think his people are gone, no He's here to stay, he's here to scream that he is Aatrox, the one known as the world ender, and that the darkin are here to stay. The lore says that they were a people that fought, that they took over worlds before, that they are proud warriors, and what better way to show that if not giving the last two known true darkins lines that reflect their legecy? BTW your Watchers example, it's actually confirmed that they came from the void and are a higher form of the void, but ok. Your example is wrong because we already knew what the Darkin were, we already seen one, and we heard their motives, objectives and history. There's no "hidden part of the truth" like you want it to be.
: > [{quoted}](name=calibergunsaint,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=WyhvRs9K,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-06-12T16:02:16.873+0000) > > A Rioter that works story and narrative design confirmed it a while ago. got a link for me?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/9qBvv0r2-increasingly-frustrated-with-how-much-we-dont-know?comment=00020000
: Is this the same fucking person who voiced Rhaast? And what the hell happened to his personality?
Wait, so you're saying you hate the fact that they gave an inmortal alien war god, whose sole purpose in life is to fight, kill, takeover and destroy things the voice of a meglomaniac egotistical dick on a rampage. Tbh, the match is perfect. Also, it shouldn't be a big surprise to everyone that his voice lines and actual voice sound like Rhaast, I mean they are the same meglomaniac egotistical type of species. Also number 2, I think your comparrison between Aatrox and Swain is wrong. Swain's role is to work in the shadows as a puppet master, doing things not because he can but because he must, since no else will,he might have took over Noxus and a demon, but he's still a mortal man. Giving Aatrox the same kind of "puppetmaster behind the scene" vibe to his voicelines is just... not working. I mean, if you were an INMORTAL ALIEN WAR GOD CARRYING A GODDAMN LIVING GREATSWORD, I think everyone would actually love to scream that.
: when was Pyke's linage confirmed?
A Rioter that works story and narrative design confirmed it a while ago.
: List of all the champions with first and last names.
Didn't you forget Caitlyn, who is implied by Swain to be Camille's grand niece?
: Illaoi and Nagekabourous (sp?) Hate the dead and creatures. So i highly doubt it was illaoi's god that brought him back. Maybe some other god thats the enemy of Nagekabourous?{{champion:420}}
Yeah this theory is just wrong, on acount of me making it without any proofs or facts, it was revealed that it isn't Nagakabourous who revived him.
: Remember, The Frejlord is basically snow and ice all around, so it could be that the swimming city is an an actual place that malted and drifted off into the sea. It could also be a burial site, to make sure that if even they come back to life, the renegade Iceborn will remain dead forever, not taking control of everyone.... but Avarosa couldn't predict a Jaullfish, and Pyke in its jaw. Besides, it could also be that they were summoned by Pyke's distress and despair, not the first time we see someone calling for a spirit in a need for help.
Ok, you said you found it weird that the theory presents the ghosts of the Iceborn in deep sea water, so I did a little digging. Look at Nami's comic, page 29- the "landwalker" that gave the moonstone to Nami's people. Blue color themes, white, icy like skin, blue eyes, gold jewlery around her arms and neck- That's not a Lunari tribe member. That's an Iceborn. Moreover, that trade they do? The moonstone, that has the power to control and set back Voidlings for the Abyssal pearl, Which can amplify your magic, as we see Nami do? And the fact that the "landwalker" wanted the pearl to protect her own tribe? That's an Iceborn, and possibly one of the 3 commanding sisters of the Iceborn, Lissandra's sisters. This is proof that the Iceborn actually traveled the sea and could have been buried there.
sumerska (NA)
: I thought that he was referring to the void opening at the bottom of the sea, the one hinted at in Nami's comic. I think its possible that some void creatures emerged from it and they saw them while at sea?
Could be, I mean it's becoming something so serious and dangerous that Nami went to the top, looking for Diana, that's what I thought at least.
: It’s reference to how Reksai is a land shark. There are sharks at sea, Reksai is a shark on land. It was a joke.
Yeah, that's what I thought after hearing out loud how crazy my question is.
Rioter Comments
MeilinII (NA)
: I swear I'm the only one that read Fizz's bio. The Swimming City is probably one of the cities Fizz saw destroyed/abandoned.
Yeah, you're probably the only one who read his bio, I mean he's such an annoying champ in game,so.... About your argument that it's one of the cities that got destroyed in his lore, highly unlikely. Pyke has a line that says: "there are no sunken cities, just the swimming one"- it probably refers to the territory of the swimming city, that it's so large, that everytime a city sinks, it expands the swimming city's borders. Also, if what revived him was the ghosts of the people in the cities, what purpose they have exactly, that they want Pyke to kill everyone? From Fizz's lore, it seems like the thing that caused them to sink and get eaten by sharks is... Climate Change- spooky, but spooky enough to make ghosts create an undead servent and make him kill people that polluted their beautiful Runeterra? Don't think so.
: Yeah,i got that,this is why your idea is both plausible and intersting,yet i can't really see the iceborns being in such a remote part of the world,not bilgewater itself,but the depts of the very oceans ! Yet it would be interesting to see some more lore about lissandra and the watchers/iceborns,she actually only got 1 ally (and his army),which is trundle compared to the 5+ side of sejuani and the 8+side of ashe.
Remember, The Frejlord is basically snow and ice all around, so it could be that the swimming city is an an actual place that malted and drifted off into the sea. It could also be a burial site, to make sure that if even they come back to life, the renegade Iceborn will remain dead forever, not taking control of everyone.... but Avarosa couldn't predict a Jaullfish, and Pyke in its jaw. Besides, it could also be that they were summoned by Pyke's distress and despair, not the first time we see someone calling for a spirit in a need for help.
: I find it unlikely considering he comes from the Freljord. But. I mean. It's a possibility.
Maybe I need to rephrase: Is the Blood moon, as it occurs in Ionia, visable in all of Runeterra, rather then just showing in Ionia? And if so, do other nations refer to it as Ionians do, with a reference to the supernatural and themes of rebirth? And is the unknown spiritual element of the Blood moon actually causing and choosing the next Spirit walker? Does the Spirit Walkers's powers come from The Blood Moon?
AphidMan (EUW)
: Half freljordian? Really? I thought they said he was native of the Blue Flame isles. Was it part of the Q&A?
It wasn't in the Q&A, it was revealed in one of the dicussions here by Riot.
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