: The best thing to fix this: Next time when you hit your D3 Promos - win one game, than Qdodge the next. This will end your Promo. but you still went +3 in terms of W/L. Back to 80LP, win another - 95LP, win another - back to Promo, win another, - Now Qdodge again. Now you have won 6 more games while still being at the exact same rank. Now your MMR will be alot better!
> [{quoted}](name=Titanium70,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=0006000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T13:44:37.764+0000) > > The best thing to fix this: > > Next time when you hit your D3 Promos - win one game, than Qdodge the next. > This will end your Promo. but you still went +3 in terms of W/L. > > Back to 80LP, win another - 95LP, win another - back to Promo, win another, - Now Qdodge again. > > Now you have won 6 more games while still being at the exact same rank. > Now your MMR will be alot better! I will try it but its kinda hard to get in promos when i get +12/13 per game and lose like 25. In my opinion this is bullsh*t.
: As I already told you. MMR doesnt increase at the same speed as you Rank does. iE You start at 2000MMR(P1). Now you win nonstop. Now you're D1. Problem Your MMR is still D3. And you still get matched with people at D3. The system showing you you're D1 means nothing, it's just a visual gimmick that alters your LP gains/losses in a way that your visual rank roughly matches your actual rank. And this system fails the second you do something not calculated: Win-streaks, Loss-streaks, Promo-Dodges, DuoQing to some degree. By decreasing your LP/Win, increasing your -LP/Loss the system tries to let your MMR catch Up with your Rank. Your Rank progress gets slowed down - your MMR growth per win is unchanged (since it never changes).
> [{quoted}](name=Titanium70,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=00060000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-12T02:44:59.701+0000) > > As I already told you. MMR doesnt increase at the same speed as you Rank does. > > iE > > You start at 2000MMR(P1). Now you win nonstop. Now you're D1. Problem Your MMR is still D3. > And you still get matched with people at D3. The system showing you you're D1 means nothing, it's just a visual gimmick that alters your LP gains/losses in a way that your visual rank roughly matches your actual rank. > And this system fails the second you do something not calculated: > Win-streaks, Loss-streaks, Promo-Dodges, DuoQing to some degree. > > By decreasing your LP/Win, increasing your -LP/Loss the system tries to let your MMR catch Up with your Rank. > Your Rank progress gets slowed down - your MMR growth per win is unchanged (since it never changes). Ok so what can i do because i played like 10 games and got to d3 50 lp then lost 3 games (not even in a row) and fell in d4. This is way beyond broken.
Pika Fox (NA)
: OP.gg isnt remotely accurate.
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2018-12-11T22:22:48.866+0000) > > OP.gg isnt remotely accurate. As you can see my match history i dont have many loses for my MMR to be that shitty. I just lost a game and lost 24lp and previously had 2 wins and got 11/12 lp each.
: Same here, Silver 5 before the patch and earning 17-20 LP, now get 12 on wins and lose 20 on losses.
> [{quoted}](name=monsterartist,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-12-11T21:16:50.341+0000) > > Same here, Silver 5 before the patch and earning 17-20 LP, now get 12 on wins and lose 20 on losses. Maybe because they removed division 5 and moved the players to division 4 and it fcked our MMR or something. But still as u can see my match history i got so many wins and yeah.
: I think there is a problem with division five player's mmr at all ranks. See my post about gold five. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/kIR8R42K-theres-something-really-wrong-with-the-mmr-system-since-ranked-changes
> [{quoted}](name=DeadpoolNA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-12-11T20:39:07.933+0000) > > I think there is a problem with division five player's mmr at all ranks. See my post about gold five. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/kIR8R42K-theres-something-really-wrong-with-the-mmr-system-since-ranked-changes Im d3 dude.
: Broken MMR. Need help
UPDATE: I won some more games and my gain fell to 12 LP..... LMAO
: I was D5 prior to the changes last patch, my win-rate over the past 21 games is 19%, and the game feels actually unplayable now. I gain absolute nothing and lose 26+ every single game. Game used to be fun to play but over the years just seems more and more of a hassle and unrewarding system. My current MMR sticks me with people who intentionally feed, afk the game, or just flame everyone for no reason while they themselves play bad. I tried to spread more positivity in my games and tell people good job, and other things when they do well. But positivity simply means nothing in this game it feels. People tilt off of the silliest things and force lose your team the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Shrike9800,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-12-11T20:03:20.290+0000) > > I was D5 prior to the changes last patch, my win-rate over the past 21 games is 19%, and the game feels actually unplayable now. I gain absolute nothing and lose 26+ every single game. Game used to be fun to play but over the years just seems more and more of a hassle and unrewarding system. My current MMR sticks me with people who intentionally feed, afk the game, or just flame everyone for no reason while they themselves play bad. I tried to spread more positivity in my games and tell people good job, and other things when they do well. But positivity simply means nothing in this game it feels. People tilt off of the silliest things and force lose your team the game. Feel bad for you but my problem is that im winning and im getting less lp.
: You're climbing to fast for your MMR to catch up. Keep playing, dodge a promo or two and your MMR is fixed. ^^ MMR does not increase not as fast as your rank if you keep winning. MMR does not decrease as fast as your Rank if you keep loosing. It's kinda annoying since Rank is just a visual gimmick and you still get matched with those D5 dudes based on your MMR despite beeing visually above that already but.. can't be helped. ^^'
> [{quoted}](name=Titanium70,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-12-11T19:56:18.933+0000) > > You're climbing to fast for your MMR to catch up. > Keep playing, dodge a promo or two and your MMR is fixed. ^^ > > MMR does not increase not as fast as your rank if you keep winning. > MMR does not decrease as fast as your Rank if you keep loosing. > > It's kinda annoying since Rank is just a visual gimmick and you still get matched with those D5 dudes based on your MMR despite beeing visually above that already but.. can't be helped. ^^' Yeah, but according to OP.GG my MMR i d2 and im d3.
: Broken MMR. Need help
Please upvote this so more people can see the bullshit system.
Tegash (NA)
: There's a glut of players in Diamond 3 and 4, boosted or otherwise, so climbing in that section is very hard. If you can get through it, your LP gains _should_ rise again when you hit D1.
> [{quoted}](name=Tegash,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-12-11T19:41:10.798+0000) > > There's a glut of players in Diamond 3 and 4, boosted or otherwise, so climbing in that section is very hard. > > If you can get through it, your LP gains _should_ rise again when you hit D1. How am i suppose to hit D1 when i win 13 lp no matter what and lose 20+?
: perhaps its a bug, but if you been lower tier for a long time the game will assume you are still that level until you win enough games. This is what happened to me because I went from S3 to S5 then stayed there for a while and then try hard and got back to S4 now all of a sudden after I got out from S5 it gave me less than 20lp for a win whilst before it it was 20 lp or more per win, but the game gave me lower mmr because I stayed at S5 for too long and it assumed I am S5 skill. In your case I dont know.
> [{quoted}](name=Bobloser3555,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-11T19:00:40.182+0000) > > perhaps its a bug, but if you been lower tier for a long time the game will assume you are still that level until you win enough games. > This is what happened to me because I went from S3 to S5 then stayed there for a while and then try hard and got back to S4 now all of a sudden after I got out from S5 it gave me less than 20lp for a win whilst before it it was 20 lp or more per win, but the game gave me lower mmr because I stayed at S5 for too long and it assumed I am S5 skill. > > In your case I dont know. Yeah probably a bug... Before preseason my lp gain/loss was normal. I won like 10 games in a row and LP gain was lower than the first won game of the streak.
: Ok, Im asking cause if you have a sudden growth spurt then Riot will think you are still at your old elo but just had some lucky games...if you keep up winning then they Riot will say "ok this guy really has improved lets give him more lp for a win". But I dont know if that is the case for you.
> [{quoted}](name=Bobloser3555,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-12-11T17:44:55.385+0000) > > Ok, Im asking cause if you have a sudden growth spurt then Riot will think you are still at your old elo but just had some lucky games...if you keep up winning then they Riot will say "ok this guy really has improved lets give him more lp for a win". But I dont know if that is the case for you. Actually my lp growth was decaying when i was winning. I won 2 games in a row and got 15 each then won 2 more and got like 14 each and now im getting 13. And im loosing 20+ lp no matter what.
: Its preseason so your mmr doesn't go up as fast as during normal season.
> [{quoted}](name=MegaSpaceJX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-12-11T17:00:10.987+0000) > > Its preseason so your mmr doesn't go up as fast as during normal season. Yea dude but it doesnt go down from winning too. I was diamond 5 before preseason and my lp gain/loss was normal and now its so f*cked.
: How long were you in silver?
> [{quoted}](name=Bobloser3555,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-12-11T16:58:52.322+0000) > > How long were you in silver? I was silver 3 seasons ago. I meant that i have climbed a lot and played a lot of game by saying i was silver.
: Same. I would win like 16-17lp but lose 22-27lp. Riot is apparently monitoring it.
> [{quoted}](name=TheGoldenKim,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VfQk1lWZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-11T16:46:59.633+0000) > > Same. I would win like 16-17lp but lose 22-27lp. Riot is apparently monitoring it. What do you think? Should i request a ticket because this is happening for second day and i cant climb like that. I know its preseason but i like to climb :D
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