: > [{quoted}](name=II SENPAI II,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i3MJda6T,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T23:50:31.006+0000) > > you have rylais, which then will use on your un charged up, to hit your passive, then you have passive slow which then you charge up your Q, the aim of the E nerf is to gut him lmao, after you slowed them, your Q would do massive amount of damage, and your E(skillshot changed) will hit more easily, this will make mord weaker in laning which then later in the, game his Q charging will make him more useful in teamfights followed by teammate's CCs, > > more on the E change, "all you gotta do is walk around him" not sure what you meant, "unfair to morde how easily dodgable it is", that's the point, but if you have rylais you will hit the slow then grab which is a guarantee grab, in a teamfight, morde's E is going to be less visible which also meant that he can grab more easily, so it isn't the worst, after all he is broken at the current meta, and i think everyone will agree if you get to dia+ elo what i mean is if you walk vs him you can easily walk around his E unless he predicts your movements like how karthus needs to predict his Q casts to achieve optimal damage. dont forget its almost 13 second (or something) cooldown.
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=i3MJda6T,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-14T23:54:45.363+0000) > > what i mean is if you walk vs him you can easily walk around his E unless he predicts your movements like how karthus needs to predict his Q casts to achieve optimal damage. dont forget its almost 13 second (or something) cooldown. His E is on a 22 second cooldown at rank one if I remember correctly.
: mordekaiser?
You think current Morde is worse to play against than a competent pre-rework Morde? I see someone hasn't played much against our old master of metal before the rework. If anything, the only reason you think Old Morde was more fun to play against is probably because he was barely played by anyone but his mains and that made him a pretty rare pick, so you never actually had to deal with him.
: Pyke Vs Mordekaiser, a Lesson in Favoritism
Morde's rework came out only recently, give it some time and he'll eventually get a new skin (Aatrox got his a few months after his rework's release for example). Also I'm not really that mad about Project Pyke's dance. It was kind of a bummer at first but the more I saw it it eventually just got more and more annoying and too distracting/flashy, Morde's dance just being a simple guitar and a guitar version of his theme ended up being much more appealing to me in the end (Though we really need a Pentakill song on his Pentakill skin Riot pls, maybe make the whole animation loop too and not just the shred).
: One Change for each Champion
{{champion:266}} Give him a new joke animation. (sorry it bothers me too much)
: > [{quoted}](name=MalignMetal,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17ipnp1a,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-18T16:25:35.807+0000) > > I'm wondering when Morde is getting a new skin, When the stars align and It might be dunkmaster ivern part 2
> [{quoted}](name=Galactic Mayhem,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=17ipnp1a,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T16:46:00.832+0000) > > When the stars align and It might be dunkmaster ivern part 2 Call me crazy but I'd be perfectly ok with getting something like Candy Lord Mordekaiser (If they're planning on giving him a silly skin that is). I still really want Dreadnova though.
: This latest patch is proof that Mordekaiser was keeping The Scourge in check.
: Shaco is in Dire Need of Bug Fixes and Changes
Fine replacement for Mordekaiser
: My take/issue with the new PROJECT reveal
If they wanted this line to be about 'monsters' they could've gone for some other more 'evil' champions like Aatrox instead of Akali (though Aatrox also received a skin only a few months ago). I'm 100% not biased at all.
Mc Raton (NA)
: Project skins this year is a huge let down..
I'm more disappointed about Irelia and Akali just being shoved in randomly.
UomoAfide (EUW)
: Project: Reckoning
So I get Jinx, Pyke and Warwick (if he really is getting a skin) because the first teaser said "we can't control the monsters we create", but how do Irelia and Akali fit into that idea?
: What are the 10 hardest skillshots to land?
{{champion:82}} E Don't hate me.
: If it is, then I think that would be the most deserving champ out of the group for it tbh... also kills the idea people have in their heads that it's a human only skin line which I'd be all for.
They could just say that he lost his legs somehow.
: I'll add one more why does illaoi not have a dunkmaster skin
: I don't think it is only two. There are 3 teasers here. The first is the bullets (Jinx), the second destroys the camera (NA), and finally the third slashes the door (Pyke)
Could be Nocturne, his ult pretty much does some sort of blackout thing.
Sukishoo (NA)
: She hasn't had one since December 2017... It's been a little while. It's not like she just got one in the last patch or something.
Meanwhile champs like Vel'koz and Xerath have been waiting for a couple years now. Also Jinx got her Odyssey skin in 2018.
Febos (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=EBBIvmVK,discussion-id=243gIhRT,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-13T19:06:17.818+0000) > > Both of them went through a journey (in their Lores) were they were both Human, and then later become something far more sinister. But they both share a similar purpose: they both inflict CHAOS for two seperate reasons. When will people learn that skins are their own universe? A skin doesn't need to "fit" a champion because of his canon lore. **The skin has its own lore**. {{sticker:sg-lulu}} Anyway, I couldn't care less about who gets Project skins. Just stop using the "fits better on champion X" argument.
> When will people learn that skins are their own universe? A skin doesn't need to "fit" a champion because of his canon lore. The skin has its own lore. It's not only lore, certain skin lines also sometimes feel like they don't fit certain champs because of their base designs or the way their kits work. For example, they really stretched it by giving Jarvan a Dark Star skin just because of his E and Q combo instead of giving it to someone else who could've made use of the theme better. Imagine Urgot executing someone by pulling them into a black hole that's inside his stomach, for example. Or how about Battle Boss Yasuo, who instead of looking like a menacing, inhuman being that looks like it somehow walked out of straight out of an arcade machine like all the others in the line, he just looks like some human guy in a weird blue/purple suit. Pretty sure champs like Vel'koz and Xerath with their devastating, long range aoe abilities combined with their already otherworldly appearances could've worked much better for the arcade boss theme.
Remus Wins (EUNE)
: Project 2019 Skins Jinx & Pyke Teaser
So the 'leak' was right... It is actually gonna be Pyke (slash mark) and Jinx (bullet holes or whatever).
: Riot's so desperate to make unique champions. Can we have a simple champion with no new mechanics, please? It's clear Riot's been having balance troubles with their latest reworks/releases (Aatrox, Irelia, Akali, Mordekaiser, Sylas, etc.)
Morde's pretty simple outside his ultimate, and dunno how you can call him a balance nightmare if he was just released like a patch or so ago. We'll see after these new nerfs he's getting I guess.
: anivia is the cryophoenix...her core mechanic and theme is her ultimate and the ice around her. Aatrox, again, was about the ritual of his ultimate and his fixation on battle as another thing, you "could" remove zac's passive, but why would you? It makes him awesome and is a neat theme. anivia's is not as awesome, but that can be attributed to that it's not as interesting. Now, imagine if Anivia froze everything in a certain area around her in the shape of an egg(with brief crowd control) and then after the delay, she bursts out of the ice in an explosion of ice shards for damage anivia may be a phoenix, and it makes sense that she can come back from death, but it was never a core part of her identity. It's mostly an anti-assassin trait because she's one of the most vulnerable mages theres plenty to work with that can keep the theme and effectiveness of the kits. Change just for the sake of change isn't good, especially when it changes parts of kits or lore that makes champions who they are
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Vv8EFijw,comment-id=000a0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-12T23:46:17.914+0000) > > anivia may be a phoenix, and it makes sense that she can come back from death, **but it was never a core part of her identity**. And Aatrox was and still is a darkin that feeds and sustains himself on the blood of his enemies through combat, so it makes sense that he can come back from death, but the main focus was always **the life steal and blood draining** and not the revive. The revive itself even crippled you by draining your passive when you revived, it only existed to save your ass in the rare times when your lifesteal wasn't enough to keep you alive usually due to lifesteal reducing items (and even then you'd usually just die right afterwards).
: You know...As much as I complain about you guys, you guys really aren't that bad.
I just like to pretend that the eune boards don't exist.
Grumpig (NA)
: With Riot currently doing world building for Runeterra, what place would you like to see get more?
: Who are your top 2 champs per position? Please comment
Top: {{champion:82}} (both the old one and the new one) {{champion:266}} Jungle: {{champion:154}} {{champion:33}} Mid: {{champion:266}} {{champion:50}} Bot: {{champion:202}} {{champion:202}} Support: {{champion:9}} {{champion:111}}
usul1202 (NA)
: What's your 'it happened in a dream' skin?
Battle/Secret Boss Mordekaiser
: the revive has ALWAYS been his main theme...that's literally what the "blood well" was for...attack speed was a benefit. He claimed enough blood of his foes and his own to use as energy for the revive in some sort of strange ritual
Think of it like this: Do Zac and Anivia's kits require their passive revives (only talking about the revive portion of Zac's passive, not the blobs) to function? Not really. I mean, they obviously do come in handy when things go wrong somehow in a fight, whether it be you getting assassinated (for Anivia) or focused down by the enemy or a dive failing (Zac) but it's not like they're so important to their kits that it's absolutely necessary for you to utilize them to be successful. You'll have quite a few games where you'll maybe pop your passive only like twice and never again and you'll still be as effective as ever, you pretty much just treat it as a bonus. Aatrox was a similar case, his revive was useful for dives or for 1v2s but it's not like your kit could never function without it or depended on it (not to mention it DRAINED your Blood Well once it was popped), since if you played right and managed your Blood Well decently you could keep yourself alive in fights through your insane lifesteal, attack range with ult and attack speed. Not saying the revive wasn't helpful, mind you, but there were other aspects of his kit that were way more important both thematically and gameplay-wise than it. (Also his theme was always about sustaining himself through bloodshed and miraculously clinging onto life in the midst of the fray by hacking and slashing at his foes and drinking their blood in (which his ult, W and Blood Well attack speed showcased pretty successfully in game), no revival was ever mentioned in his lore)
ONI Ahri (NA)
: I dont play aatrox but his revive is a staple. aatrox lore describes him as someone who has the ability to change losing battles into victories, he simply wouldn't be the same without it because his arrival to fights isnt as big of a threat, I loved seeing aatrox flying into battle to yelling at his enemies he was engaging. in a way he symbolized a war demon and not having that is going to negatively impact his laning ability as well as his roll in team fights. Kinda kills his whole "You would rush towards me, Kai'Sa? What fool would build a strategy on that idea? Come, let us begin." vibe.
> [{quoted}](name=ONI Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Vv8EFijw,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-07-12T00:27:44.891+0000) > > I dont play aatrox but his revive is a staple. aatrox lore describes him as someone who has the ability to change losing battles into victories, he simply wouldn't be the same without it because his arrival to fights isnt as big of a threat, I loved seeing aatrox flying into battle to yelling at his enemies he was engaging. in a way he symbolized a war demon and not having that is going to negatively impact his laning ability as well as his roll in team fights. Kinda kills his whole "You would rush towards me, Kai'Sa? What fool would build a strategy on that idea? Come, let us begin." vibe. Aatrox was never about the revive though. His actual identity was his ultimate steroid, building up his blood well for attack speed and just barely keeping himself alive in fights with blood thirst while whittling his enemy down with his long attack range until getting enough health back to safely switch to blood price and finish them off. (read up his old lore and you'll find that's exactly what it describes as well, there's no mention of the revive in there) The revive really wasn't as iconic as people want to believe, and also remember that we have other champs that do the exact same thing (Anivia, Zac).
: Hash gave a suggestion a while back to have the ultimate instead of revive just burst heal when he would instead die. That way it's functionally the same thing only without the stasis.
> [{quoted}](name=crippler38,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kkgI55OL,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-07-11T17:58:49.733+0000) > > Hash gave a suggestion a while back to have the ultimate instead of revive just burst heal when he would instead die. That way it's functionally the same thing only without the stasis. They tried something similar to that on the PBE at one point. They made Aatrox's ult pretty much urf mode and if his ult ran out without him dying he would get the heal instantly.
M3LL0W (NA)
: Why is Riot Nerfing Aatrox?
If losing the revive means we won't be a wet noodle when compared to other juggernauts, then I'm all for it.
: @Riot Aatrox lines in regards to revive removal
Why aren't more people upvoting these threads? They need to do this.
: So I agree with the Aatrox nerf
Some of them could work for his respawn, just saying. Or just make them trigger on any revive.
: Or maybe we accept that Riot is a working place with deadlines? They wanted to finally ship Mordekaiser, especially since he was supposed to come out before Qiyana. Maybe it was just that the time management didn't work out as they hoped, stuff took longer than expected and they had a deadline. So they simply shipped what they had at this time, I don't think that is something so strange to do. They have other projects to work on, this one might have went a bit unlucky, but stuff like this happens.
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2OqyiVKV,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2019-07-10T22:10:37.122+0000) > > Or maybe we accept that Riot is a working place with deadlines? > > They wanted to finally ship Mordekaiser, especially since he was supposed to come out before Qiyana. Maybe it was just that the time management didn't work out as they hoped, stuff took longer than expected and they had a deadline. So they simply shipped what they had at this time, I don't think that is something so strange to do. They have other projects to work on, this one might have went a bit unlucky, but stuff like this happens. I understand that they had a pretty tough schedule then, but that's not what my problem is (probably should've worded the thread better). What I'm worried about is how inconsistent Riot is with following their own rules. With Ezreal's VU they said that they'll no longer be giving low tier skins (including 975s in most cases unless they needed the vfx to fit the theme) unique vfx and recalls as they wanted skin prices to be consistent with the guidelines they've put out. Then came Kayle and Morgana and neither of their lower tier skins got vfx either, until the community complained enough and Kayle was given recolors on some of her skins and Morgana got unique vfx on one of her skins as well, already going against what they stated during Ezreal's vu. Then came Mordekaiser and he got the same treatment, Pentakill got unique vfx because it has to fit with others in the line and those vfx got pasted onto Infernal because it was conveniently also a fire themed skin, while the other skins went mostly untouched except for their passives. Even Lord went untouched after that despite already being half recolored anyway, but I decided to accept that this was the direction Riot decided to take with reworked skins and that was that. (~~Though I'll still keep hoping that he eventually gets recolors in a future patch like Kayle. Not the end of the world if he doesn't though.~~) And now we have Pantheon who'll be getting recolors on all of his 975s and a recall for one of them, and we once again we witness Riot going against what they said themselves. Morde may have had to been rushed out, but the others like Kayle and Morgana (who we know were in the making for quite a while, dunno about Ezreal) also didn't receive vfx on their skins despite having more time than Morde to be worked on, so not sure if that's really a valid argument for those guys not getting anything without the community complaining about it while Pantheon is getting the full treatment. They're so inconsistent with following the rules that they laid out themselves that it's honestly a bit worrying.
DUDE BRO (NA)
: Have you guys seen Mordes ult? The face that SR completely vanishes outside the ring, and is replaced with floating rocks. I can almost guarentee you that his effects took waaaaaay longer than any other champ to create, since they needed to create brand new tech and figure out how to make it look right (wasn't just a bunch of flashy explosions like most champs). That's most likely why his skins didn't all get new particles, the actual particles themselves took up all the development time. Prob why they did a flame version and stopped there, prob took way too much time to make a second color variation. Compare that to panth who has some really simple stuff, plenty of time for a bunch of recolors and such.
> [{quoted}](name=DUDE BRO,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2OqyiVKV,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-10T05:02:35.654+0000) > > Have you guys seen Mordes ult? The face that SR completely vanishes outside the ring, and is replaced with floating rocks. > > I can almost guarentee you that his effects took waaaaaay longer than any other champ to create, since they needed to create brand new tech and figure out how to make it look right (wasn't just a bunch of flashy explosions like most champs). > > That's most likely why his skins didn't all get new particles, the actual particles themselves took up all the development time. Prob why they did a flame version and stopped there, prob took way too much time to make a second color variation. > > > Compare that to panth who has some really simple stuff, plenty of time for a bunch of recolors and such. Definitely is possible, though the artist himself said that he had to plead with superiors to at least give Pentakill its vfx, so that sorta implies that he in fact simply wasn't allowed to do any more vfx other than the passives. And we don't even know about what Panth will have yet, though from that one image they teased of him in a road map makes me feel like his ultimate will definitely be a lot more flashy than it is now.
: throw morde in the trashcan, this champion is utter and complete garbage. any noob can play this one and go 11/1/16
> [{quoted}](name=moreqtiethanqt,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2OqyiVKV,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-07-10T09:38:49.880+0000) > > throw morde in the trashcan, this champion is utter and complete garbage. any noob can play this one and go 11/1/16 Don't worry my friend, he's finally getting nerfed next patch.
Larriet (NA)
: >That's aside from the fact that Riot forced the artist working on his particles to stop after he did the passive on the skins That was because he didn't have time to do more, not because anyone was objecting to him working on it. If they were, they wouldn't have done even the passives.
> [{quoted}](name=Larriet,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2OqyiVKV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-10T02:07:07.015+0000) > > That was because he didn't have time to do more, not because anyone was objecting to him working on it. If they were, they wouldn't have done even the passives. Pretty sure he stated that he had to 'fight' with his superiors to even give Pentakill and Infernal recolored VFX and that was only a few days after he arrived on pbe.
Naalith (NA)
: Mordekaiser's base skin isn't even finished yet. He doesn't have a respawn animation like all the new champions and his recall is still busted and he glitches into the ground. That's aside from the fact that Riot forced the artist working on his particles to stop after he did the passive on the skins, I really don't understand why they are taking such a hardline stance against Mordekaiser players.
> [{quoted}](name=Naalith,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2OqyiVKV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-09T22:22:53.805+0000) > > Mordekaiser's base skin isn't even finished yet. He doesn't have a respawn animation like all the new champions and his recall is still busted and he glitches into the ground. That's aside from the fact that Riot forced the artist working on his particles to stop after he did the passive on the skins, I really don't understand why they are taking such a hardline stance against Mordekaiser players. Revenge for all his bugs probably. I think his respawn is fine though, him just reappearing at spawn in a dark mist probably works as well as anything they could've given him (except maybe a ghostly gate spawning in and he walks out of it).
: Introducing Twitch
Did he go invisible on you yet?
Rioter Comments
: Odd Lore Question: Do Champions(or just Runeterrans in general) wear underwear?
Aatrox's current host was human at one point (so it counts dammit!), and he doesn't wear any underwear. _Not saying that that's a bad thing, though..._
ICreepVido (EUNE)
: Got banned my champ in champ select
I don't mind teammates banning my champ if I'm last or second last pick and I'm hovering a champ that's currently popular and the enemy might pick first (like Morde after the rework), but what does piss me off is when I'm first pick and my teammate bans them because they simply hate the champion or because they wanted to play them but since I had priority they just decided to ban them instead (you could at least ask me to give you the champ before banning, mr. xXGoDMiDLanE123Xx (not an actual person, pls dont delete mods)).
: Morde Ult Kill Nexus
I did that in one of my recent games. It was the funniest shit to see the enemy team rage at me in post game chat afterwards.
: I hope Riot doesn't re-record Lee Sin voice lines
Sorry to revive this ancient thread, but... Yeah, it happened after all sadly.
JackMcCarry (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=man of tin,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wJ0ZEAQW,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-07-04T18:14:48.122+0000) > > Remember when other classes were able to go bot for a while? That was fun, too bad it got changed instantly. What stops you from taking anything else botlane?
> [{quoted}](name=JackMcCarry,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wJ0ZEAQW,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-07-04T18:18:56.809+0000) > > What stops you from taking anything else botlane? The enemy team having literally any 'normal' (support/marksman) botlane that can play half decently.*
: I'm really tired and burned out from adcs.
Remember when other classes were able to go bot for a while? That was fun, too bad it got changed instantly.
: Renekton's shield-breaking W is basically a giant "fuck you"
Everything about Renekton is already one giant 'fuck you'.
: What's the most evil thing you've done to win a game?
Let myself get to 10% hp as Morde in a 1v5 against the enemy team right at their nexus before ulting their useless ass Pyke support that missed his ult and slowly destroying the nexus while the rest of them can't get to me because Shadow Realm.
: Mordekaiser is an absolute abomination.
I don't even know what opinion to have on Morde anymore. On one hand I think he's op because the stats do show that he's too strong, but then in game most of my success comes from the fact that people don't ever respect my damage output and tankiness and just rush into me blindly thinking I'll go down easy. He feels really similar to Darius to me in that way and yet I notice people usually don't respect him half as much as they would a Darius (unless I'm extremely fed but then you'd do that with any fed champ), leading to many unfortunate and avoidable deaths. Ah and also barely any ADCs I see build QSS against him. Say whatever you wish about that argument not justifying how strong Morde is, but that shit can be a lifesaver and yet people often choose to forego it.
: REMINDER THAT LORD MORDEKAISER IS AN UNFINISHED SKIN
Glad to see someone still cares about this but knowing Riot they'll just ignore this like the other 8 posts that have already been made.
: Ixaocan's reveal was uneventful and anticlimactic :/
I kept forgetting Qiyana exists until I see someone lock her in in champ select.
Arakadia (NA)
: These quotes exist but the vast majority of quotes played in game amount to HELL YEAH WOOOO!
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=VsmYW7Ks,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-06-29T06:20:35.219+0000) > > These quotes exist but the vast majority of quotes played in game amount to HELL YEAH WOOOO! Aatrox does a similar thing with his voice lines. In combat he constantly shouts at and taunts his enemies making sure not to show any of his weakness or doubt, only out of combat when he's alone does he become vulnerable as he quietly ponders the terrible things he's done and what he's become and been reduced to (seriously listen to some of those they're pretty great). Galio is a similar story since he considers himself to be sort of a symbol of justice and hope, so when he's out of battle he ponders about the sad tragedy of his life while in combat he acts all excited and happy, of course because he enjoys fighting but also because he doesn't want his allies to lose hope. But god forbid Riot tries to make characters have a bit of depth like that in game where most of them are usually one dimensional and have only one mood for the whole match, right?
Dat Kat (EUW)
: Lmfao, you just gave them possibly one of the best idea ever. "Now, with your VIP membership, you can login almost instantenously! BUY NOW"
> [{quoted}](name=Dat Kat,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RzztuW5j,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-30T16:42:32.427+0000) > > Lmfao, you just gave them possibly one of the best idea ever. > > "Now, with your VIP membership, you can login almost instantenously! BUY NOW" please no
: Im just wondering when will RiotGames allow me to play my main champion without griefing my team lol
I loved playing Galio mid when his rework came out, but now if I pick him mid over anyone else it feels like I'm participating in a foot race where everyone is a professional athlete while I'm some random guy who's been shot in both legs before we even started to run.
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