: Then why you comment? This is why we can't have nice community here.
We will never have nice community here :D
Voidner (EUNE)
: Well you should... The guy probably killed a lot of time to create this concept
Not really. Used to spend lots of time, when i was less skilled.
Arakadia (NA)
: Yup.
Predictable. Well, best of luck when you post your finished concept.
Arakadia (NA)
: They commented yes.
Arakadia (NA)
: Thanks alot, this feedback was really appreciated. I like the ult idea, not necesarrily the Q reduction, but it is pretty cool with the 4th rune. The E is strange and will get updated. I will probably extend the range like you said but remove the reset. Thanks for taking the time.
No problem. You sometimes help me, too. Off topic, what happened to this post? Last time i saw it, it was +6. Have you argued with a hatetard?
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=ALJBtqvI,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-06-21T18:39:46.557+0000) > > o_O this is so bizarre, i can't even comprehend how, what or why. > > How is Shia Labeouf is related to horror? What? Why do you confuse me? I just found it funny that the top part of the lore made it felt like I was watching Rob Cantor's "Shia Labeouf" play
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0u4M6vppCI :DDD Thank you for this. I was missing on this so much. Gonna listen to it until my ears will bleed.
: Lore makes me feel like Shia Labeouf was going to come out at any second. _You're walking in the woods. There's no one around, And your phone is dead. Out of the corner of your eye you spot him, Shia Labeouf._ _He's following you About 30 feet back. He gets down on all fours and breaks into a sprint. He's gaining on you. Shia Labeouf._ _You're looking for your car, But you're all turned around. He's almost upon you now And you can see there's blood on his face! My god, there's blood everywhere!_ _Running for your life (From Shia Labeouf.) He's brandishing a knife. (It's Shia Labeouf.) Lurking in the shadows Hollywood superstar Shia Labeouf. Living in the woods, (Shia Labeouf.) Killing for sport, (Shia Labeouf.) Eating all the bodies Actual, cannibal Shia Labeouf._ _Now it's dark and you seem to have lost him, But you're hopelessly lost yourself. Stranded with a murderer, You creep silently through the underbrush. A-ha! In the distance, A small cottage with a light on. Hope! You move stealthily toward it, But your leg! AH! It's caught in a bear trap!_ _Gnawing off your leg, (Quiet, quiet.) Limping toward the cottage, (Quiet, quiet.) Now you're on the doorstep, Sitting inside, Shia Labeouf. Sharpening an ax, (Shia Labeouf.) But he doesn't hear you enter, (Shia Labeouf.) You're sneaking up behind him. Strangling superstar Shia Labeouf. Fighting for your life with Shia Labeouf, Wrestling a knife from Shia Labeouf, Stab it in his kidney. Safe at last from Shia Labeouf._ _You limp into the dark woods, Blood oozing from your stump leg. But you have won. You have beaten Shia Labeouf_
o_O this is so bizarre, i can't even comprehend how, what or why. How is Shia Labeouf is related to horror? What? Why do you confuse me?
ZeleGR (EUNE)
: https://mlkshk-ada.kxcdn.com/r/H66G
https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/evildead16.gif?w=650
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=000300000000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T09:24:40.636+0000) > {{champion:40}} i will carry you on my wind and damage. Doesn't matter if my team mates lost their lines and fed enemy team, i will carry them. i've had support-turned-full AP janna carries before as a happy coincidence > Show examples. ok, how about how i've lived my entire life big enough of an anecdote for you? it even is true. > "Wanting to believe the best about people doesn't make it true." > + > "People never change. They just become more of who they really are." > Doctor House ... nope~! > You said that this is valuable feedback. I just laugh about it. well it is actually valuable feedback waiting to be harnessed, so your loss for not trying to get it i guess? > Scores on my comments say otherwise. well, it's not me i doubt it's alts at all honestly, honestly doubt people have the patience for that. > Then why you do, when you said that everybody is giving valuable feedback and shouldn't block hatetards? > Don't speak for everybody else. well, I think you aren't reading into how I'm writing enough i have this problem, you see, where I suck at explaining things, and end up doing things in a super roundabout awful way because of it. > There is fine line in playing dumb and not taking bad arguments seriously. Yes. I agree. Stop playing dumb. > He was, just like my leader champion :D ...no your leader champion was bad > Just like my champion :D what i coincidence :D ... no
> [{quoted}](name=Elphrihaim,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=00030000000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000003,timestamp=2016-06-21T16:54:55.462+0000) > > Well, I already tried, and I believe further engagement is going to nothing but make you deflect the criticism that you have refused to take in the past. Good explanations "i said it already, i will not say it again". Why? > Yes. Because the content is good. And everybody has told you the content is good. Again with everybody. You get that by supporting cancer and saying "i said it is good, so it must be good" you not qualify as **anybody**. Supporters keeps supporting. > And also because you bred the environment for yourself. You were the one that began this all. :/ Yeah, i was calling my every concept bad. I must hate myself then. > Nah, you're being dumb. Hail space panda and bliss this child's soul, as he is blesses with neither a sharp mind, nor sharp anything else.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=000300000000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T09:24:40.636+0000) > {{champion:40}} i will carry you on my wind and damage. Doesn't matter if my team mates lost their lines and fed enemy team, i will carry them. i've had support-turned-full AP janna carries before as a happy coincidence > Show examples. ok, how about how i've lived my entire life big enough of an anecdote for you? it even is true. > "Wanting to believe the best about people doesn't make it true." > + > "People never change. They just become more of who they really are." > Doctor House ... nope~! > You said that this is valuable feedback. I just laugh about it. well it is actually valuable feedback waiting to be harnessed, so your loss for not trying to get it i guess? > Scores on my comments say otherwise. well, it's not me i doubt it's alts at all honestly, honestly doubt people have the patience for that. > Then why you do, when you said that everybody is giving valuable feedback and shouldn't block hatetards? > Don't speak for everybody else. well, I think you aren't reading into how I'm writing enough i have this problem, you see, where I suck at explaining things, and end up doing things in a super roundabout awful way because of it. > There is fine line in playing dumb and not taking bad arguments seriously. Yes. I agree. Stop playing dumb. > He was, just like my leader champion :D ...no your leader champion was bad > Just like my champion :D what i coincidence :D ... no
> [{quoted}](name=Elphrihaim,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=00030000000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-06-21T16:01:54.019+0000) > > ..That would suck! If everybody *was* me, that is. > > If everybody was *like* me, cuddly and bubbly, life would *probably* be pretty nice. But it will never happen. Sorry. > ...I've watched nearly all of House's episodes. > And I happen to like Gregory House as a character-- because of how well fleshed he is, because of how much thought goes into his statements. Then why disagree? > See, I *know* it and I know I *can* explain it. > > I asked a friend of mine for help with a lot of these posts to make sure it wasn't just me. Ok. Then explain. > Why? You wanna know why? > > Well, it's on the first page. > > Admittedly; you've improved upon it since this review. But not in most of the ways that are actually specifically addressed. Why? > So... if you actually *had read that*, back when it was posted, and taken it into account, *the entire rest of this discussion* wouldn't have happened. First paragraph is pure hatred and retardation :D and you think i would read a single word more than that? :DDDDD :DDDDDDDDDD OH MY GOD, there are people who actually thing this person is not a cancer :DDDDDDDDDDD (took me about 20 minutes to stop myself from laughing) Seriously, seriouslyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, you think i would even consider reading anything hatetard posts, when he clearly states his hatered in the first 20 words of his comment? :DD You are so naive. > And that's what I mean by you ignoring good advice. This is the **second post** in the thread. :DDDDD mate, come on, i just stopped laughing to respond to you and you make me laugh again. "Good Advice" :DDD Wow, "hail space panda" quote is clearly not enough for this occasion. But i can't think about anything at the moment, because i am on the ground laughing.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=000400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T18:50:09.202+0000) >[snip embeds] Huh. Welp. I uh... haven't seen it in game. > Look at comments in this post. Yeah-- and some on the very first page in chronological and on the second page have +1 total vote with no downs/ups. > Most of people will let other people be harassed, most people will harass someone. I am not even talking about mass killings, who happens in the world every week or more often. I don't know too many people that don't try to act. Btw "omnipotent" is actually correct in that context. "Omniscient" would be better, but "omnipotent" includes "omniscient". > I trusted, got suspended. 2 times: for discussing politics and then for discussing different games. I somehow doubt this but ok > Ok, i will challenge you to improve based on these comments Sure! It's easy to get better feedback out of people if you probe them a little All of those statements while bland and giving little assistance, >spamming bad concepts Ask the commenter why the concepts are bad. >you can't make something because i don't like it Ask the commenter what they don't like. >it is unfun to me specifically, so you can't make it Ask the commenter why they believe the kit to be anti-fun. > Yes, they are. So hateful, thought, that i downloaded a bot to black-list them. Wow! That's... that's impressive. >_< > And you just recently said you are not omniscience. Where that went away? Seems like you can&#x27;t be consistent with your points. I forgot to write in past tense. I meant "Nobody felt", and I say that from having read a bunch of posts along your concepts. > No no no. Just recently you said it is ok to give people 1/20 for everything. Is it ok for one person, it is ok for them all: _&quot;But as long as there was no bias-- you graded everybody equally ridiculously harshly-- then no, I imagine people wouldn&#x27;t really mind that because they could logically see how you&#x27;re just being very strict instead of loose-- which is a great way to help people improve.&quot;_ > I would even be even more fain an unbiased by giving nearly everyone 1/20, not just to one person. As long as your *reason for the score* is based exclusively on the concept, as opposed to *the poster* of it, then nobody will complain. If your score is based on the person posting it, then it is a biased score. Please don't switch what I'm saying into not what I said. > Then we are playing two different games. League of Legends by Riot Games *isn't* the game you're playing? Then what **are** you playing? > I usually too, because they are banned in 99% of my games. That 1% bugs me, though. Huh.
> [{quoted}](name=BestWirymNA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-06-21T04:38:04.286+0000) > > League of Legends by Riot games..? And you never get these people on you games? Damn, i envy you. > It disproves your point. Why are you ignoring evidence? No. What? If most of my comments are downvoted no matter what i say that somehow proves that there is no haters around? > ... Incorrect. I&#x27;ve seen it in the past. It may was incorrect long time ago, or as you said: in the past. > You &quot;corrected&quot; it in a quote block. -;- Blue light is technically part of while light, but when you mean white light, you should say white light. When you mean omniscience, you should say omniscience. > If you keep asking *why*, and you don&#x27;t get a response on *why*, then you can say &quot;well I tried to fix it but you didn&#x27;t help&quot;. Why? > And that is a shield from hatred, as you can clearly demonstrate where and how you are trying to improve but are being denied the chance. Why? > Well THAT is a matter of opinion. If you think they can&#x27;t make something as good as your worst, then their concepts are well received and yours aren&#x27;t, **I think that says something about your concept and or attitude being worse**. Downvotes against everyone else, upvotes for yourself - makes your post more visible and thus getting more attention. How is this not a common knowledge? > If you&#x27;re getting abused, report it. Don&#x27;t comment on it. Don&#x27;t engage with trolls, don&#x27;t *comment that you aren&#x27;t engaging with a troll* (as such validates their existence). Why? > All of 3 people seemed to complain. And two of them over valid criticisms of their concepts from the same blunt and harsh judge. You said valid, participants said that other word. Next time take part in it and if you get low score, don't complain, even if reviews given to you have nothing to do with actual concept. > Soooo... I&#x27;m going to say that nobody complained, because *everybody* complains when their concepts are scored low. It&#x27;s happened in the past when one particular judge threw out sub-60 scores for most of the participants (some going down to the 20s), though as their highest score was 83? nobody complained too heavily since it was pretty obvious that the judge was just scoring on a much harsher rubric. Evidence shows otherwise, you you are trying to bent the truth. And again with **everybody**. You clearly think you are omniscience. > I didn&#x27;t &quot;start&quot;. They were there from the beginning. More implied than explicit as they were in that post, but they *were* there the whole time. Nope. You put them there. > I don&#x27;t understand what you mean by this, but Echoing gave you valid criticism that you proceeded to throw a tantrum over instead of try and incorporate. :D "valid criticism" and "cancer" in a same sentence. This one never gets old. > So... I mean, say what you will. You&#x27;re willfully ignoring help that has been proffered to you repeatedly, and then constantly proclaiming that your concepts are amazing and nearly everybody else disagrees. "All your concepts are bad" yea, i should accept that help more often, then. Hail space panda. > Um. Can you make a logical argument here? You&#x27;re saying that last month&#x27;s CCOS scores were biased. And I&#x27;ve already said they weren&#x27;t. So, you are an authority of who is biased and who is not? Many times cancer stalked my comments and posts, trying to pick a fight. Then, he went judging and gave 1/20. Clearly not biased. > I&#x27;m not-- You aren&#x27;t following my logical train. And are, as a result, moving it along the wrong tracks. Despite me every time trying to show you in a different way where I&#x27;m trying to go. Well then be my guest, who exactly where are you going. > But I am. So... :\ Then i envy you.
regonas (EUNE)
: K, i will be a lad and help you out. First thing first, the whole kit. Passive - might be a tiny bit overloaded. I, personally, think this is great way to deal mixed damage and track different types of attacks, but there are so many simpleminded people who would view this as "too much, overloaded, broken, blah blad". Keep that in mind. Q - simple, effective, heavily depends on good numbers. W - same as Q, but is AOE. E - i am hugely oppose to this. You don't really know where you end hopping, wall riding is always a bad idea. This have very small range, so is pretty much useless when used not nearby a wall. If you really want to keep this ability, i would suggest "jump into targeted area, if you land on the ground, then create an explosion, if you land on the wall, then you will be able to walk on the wall". So, your champion is someone who works in cycles (flow), ability after ability. He doesn't benefit for different combo, but rather in using certain abilities after certain abilities: **E -> W -> Q -> E** or **W -> E -> Q -> E**. Passive is just a flavor effect and has nothing to do with the rest of the kit. Base suggestion: 1) R could change the rotation or allow be used for different benefits; 2) R could tie passive with the rest of the kit; 3) R could add more ways to use the rest of the kit. #My suggestion for R > **Rune of eternity** > Activating this ability will refresh all your runes and cause forth rune to circle around you for 6 sec. This rune does a full circle over 3 sec. > If you aim your Q through this forth rune (align your Q to go through forth rune) , then your Q will consume all your passive runes and trigger their effects on this Q hit. > In addition, while R lasts, your Q will have greatly reduced cooldown and if it hits an enemy champion, all your passive runes will be instantly refreshed. This way, you will have a little bit complex, but fun ability. It offers quite a lot of damage, if you position yourself right. If have high skill ceilings, interesting an unique mechanics and should fit fit the theme. Possible flow with R: **E -> W -> R -> Q -> E -> Q** - standard rotation to use as many abilities as possible. Works great with spellblade. **W -> E -> R -> Q -> E -> Q** - tandard rotation to use as many abilities as possible. Works great with spellblade. **R -> E -> W -> Q -> E -> Q** - alternative rotation, focusing of dps rather than on burst. Have overall smaller total damage, but gives more things to do through the duration of R. **R -> W -> E -> Q -> E -> Q** - alternative rotation, focusing of dps rather than on burst. Have overall smaller total damage, but gives more things to do through the duration of R. **W -> R -> Q -> E -> Q** - shorter standard rotation. **W -> R -> Q** - shortest standard rotation, mainly for poke.
Wow, i repeated multiple times i blacklisted hatetards and can't see what they comment, yet they still think i do see them and that care about their pathetic attempts to "stab" me. No, i see only black boxes instead of their comments. And based on their usual "reviews", big black box offers more feedback than anything they could write. Seems haters never learn :D Boy, i bet this hater, whoever he might be, is just furious, trying to dish my idea in any way possible. I bet words like "no other champion does it" or "riot are against this type of abilities" are more often than sand grains in Sahara.
Arakadia (NA)
: Whats a good ultimate for this WIP Champion?
K, i will be a lad and help you out. First thing first, the whole kit. Passive - might be a tiny bit overloaded. I, personally, think this is great way to deal mixed damage and track different types of attacks, but there are so many simpleminded people who would view this as "too much, overloaded, broken, blah blad". Keep that in mind. Q - simple, effective, heavily depends on good numbers. W - same as Q, but is AOE. E - i am hugely oppose to this. You don't really know where you end hopping, wall riding is always a bad idea. This have very small range, so is pretty much useless when used not nearby a wall. If you really want to keep this ability, i would suggest "jump into targeted area, if you land on the ground, then create an explosion, if you land on the wall, then you will be able to walk on the wall". So, your champion is someone who works in cycles (flow), ability after ability. He doesn't benefit for different combo, but rather in using certain abilities after certain abilities: **E -> W -> Q -> E** or **W -> E -> Q -> E**. Passive is just a flavor effect and has nothing to do with the rest of the kit. Base suggestion: 1) R could change the rotation or allow be used for different benefits; 2) R could tie passive with the rest of the kit; 3) R could add more ways to use the rest of the kit. #My suggestion for R > **Rune of eternity** > Activating this ability will refresh all your runes and cause forth rune to circle around you for 6 sec. This rune does a full circle over 3 sec. > If you aim your Q through this forth rune (align your Q to go through forth rune) , then your Q will consume all your passive runes and trigger their effects on this Q hit. > In addition, while R lasts, your Q will have greatly reduced cooldown and if it hits an enemy champion, all your passive runes will be instantly refreshed. This way, you will have a little bit complex, but fun ability. It offers quite a lot of damage, if you position yourself right. If have high skill ceilings, interesting an unique mechanics and should fit fit the theme. Possible flow with R: **E -> W -> R -> Q -> E -> Q** - standard rotation to use as many abilities as possible. Works great with spellblade. **W -> E -> R -> Q -> E -> Q** - tandard rotation to use as many abilities as possible. Works great with spellblade. **R -> E -> W -> Q -> E -> Q** - alternative rotation, focusing of dps rather than on burst. Have overall smaller total damage, but gives more things to do through the duration of R. **R -> W -> E -> Q -> E -> Q** - alternative rotation, focusing of dps rather than on burst. Have overall smaller total damage, but gives more things to do through the duration of R. **W -> R -> Q -> E -> Q** - shorter standard rotation. **W -> R -> Q** - shortest standard rotation, mainly for poke.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=000300000000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T09:24:40.636+0000) > {{champion:40}} i will carry you on my wind and damage. Doesn&#x27;t matter if my team mates lost their lines and fed enemy team, i will carry them. i've had support-turned-full AP janna carries before as a happy coincidence > Show examples. ok, how about how i've lived my entire life big enough of an anecdote for you? it even is true. > &quot;Wanting to believe the best about people doesn&#x27;t make it true.&quot; > + > &quot;People never change. They just become more of who they really are.&quot; > Doctor House ... nope~! > You said that this is valuable feedback. I just laugh about it. well it is actually valuable feedback waiting to be harnessed, so your loss for not trying to get it i guess? > Scores on my comments say otherwise. well, it's not me i doubt it's alts at all honestly, honestly doubt people have the patience for that. > Then why you do, when you said that everybody is giving valuable feedback and shouldn&#x27;t block hatetards? > Don&#x27;t speak for everybody else. well, I think you aren't reading into how I'm writing enough i have this problem, you see, where I suck at explaining things, and end up doing things in a super roundabout awful way because of it. > There is fine line in playing dumb and not taking bad arguments seriously. Yes. I agree. Stop playing dumb. > He was, just like my leader champion :D ...no your leader champion was bad > Just like my champion :D what i coincidence :D ... no
> [{quoted}](name=Elphrihaim,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=0003000000000001000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T09:52:17.657+0000) > > i&#x27;ve had support-turned-full AP janna carries before as a happy coincidence Then good for you. Never happened to me. > ok, how about how i&#x27;ve lived my entire life > > big enough of an anecdote for you? Well, that is kinda of example. So everybody now should act like you? Or be you? > ... nope~! Yup, you can't even watch the TV series. You probably won't like doctor house, though. That characters says too much truth. > well it is actually valuable feedback waiting to be harnessed, so your loss for not trying to get it i guess? Yeah, i lose so much "valuable feedback" now :DD > well, it&#x27;s not me > > i doubt it&#x27;s alts at all honestly, honestly doubt people have the patience for that. So you meant to tell me, that there is about 2 or 3 guys, who stalks until i comment and then they downvote that comment, but a single guy with alts can't do the same, because he would lack patience? What? > well, I think you aren&#x27;t reading into how I&#x27;m writing enough > > i have this problem, you see, where I suck at explaining things, and end up doing things in a super roundabout awful way because of it. Or, maybe, just maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe . . . ... ... maybe, maybe, maybe you shouldn't comment on things you don't know and can't explain. Maybe. > Yes. I agree. > > Stop playing dumb. Hail space panda. > ...no your leader champion was bad Hail space panda. Or lets try your way. Why?
Arakadia (NA)
: Whats a good ultimate for this WIP Champion?
:D I could construct for you an awesome ability, with balanced number, unique interactions with the kit and so on. But should i?
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T08:19:12.033+0000) > > If equal base defense and armor, +25 are likely to help. This clause will never be truuuuueeee thooouuuugghhhhhhhhhhhhh > :DDD AA doesn&#x27;t scale from AD? right ok sure whatever why do mages not build AD if they have a 100% AD scaling basic attack then? seems logical **That is basically the argument you went with**. > {{item:3072}} {{item:3153}} {{item:3074}} {{item:3812}}, masteries, runes. yes. build spirit visage and have it only scale up lifesteal you build. *Nobody does that*. SV basically is only gotten with champions that already have some sustain mechanics. > Yes, many champions are always building it. .... ... Not sure if you're being sarcastic > Blind doesn&#x27;t represent main thing, which is draft. In blind you can have mirror teams. I happen to *only* play blinds, thank you very much. if you want to argue tournament scene, then you have to concede tahm as an example since he's not like... a thing there.
> [{quoted}](name=BestWirymNA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=000400000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T08:53:19.694+0000) > > This clause will never be truuuuueeee thooouuuugghhhhhhhhhhhhh People said same for ADC jungle. > right ok sure whatever So this is what you said when you are proven completely wrong :D > why do mages not build AD if they have a 100% AD scaling basic attack then? seems logical > > **That is basically the argument you went with**. Don't know, man. Who really knows? Some say that is because mages benefit way more from AP, because they have abilities with AP scalings, but who knows? Who really knows anything? Nobody knows, man, nobody knows _(slowly passes a joint)_ > yes. build spirit visage and have it only scale up lifesteal you build. It works together pretty well, so why not? > *Nobody does that*. SV basically is only gotten with champions that already have some sustain mechanics. Then please, call me Mr. Nobody. I will call my first born child Little Nobody. > .... ... Not sure if you&#x27;re being sarcastic I am :D > I happen to *only* play blinds, thank you very much. Well, then you are a brave man and i salute your bravery. > if you want to argue tournament scene, then you have to concede tahm as an example since he&#x27;s not like... a thing there. So every non-meta champion is not relevant? Alrighty then.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T07:14:55.852+0000) > > {{item:3111}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3190}} {{item:3137}} you meat to tell me, that these items have no use against AD champions? o_O merc treads: which give only 25 MR and are unlikely to help dervish: yes build the expensivish AD item when you have no scalings, very smart visage: on this champion, who has no healing? great choice > And you can&#x27;t build health instead of armor? and then you die to botrk (as elph already wrote) > You tell me, that seeing all AD enemy team on during champion select, you can&#x27;t just simply pick a different champions who excepts against all AD champion teams (if you have concepts about effectiveness of this champion against full AD team, even if he have specific effect against physical damage, which is gated against all AD teams)? what is blind pick > There is no possible way, that champion could have equal armor and magic resist scalings per level, equal starting and end levels of armor and magic resist. actually yeah, there is only one way and that's if both are (30 + 1.25) or (30 + 0) aaand that's never going to happen but even if it does your Q gives an armor aura :2
> [{quoted}](name=BestWirymNA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T07:53:54.197+0000) > > merc treads: which give only 25 MR and are unlikely to help If equal base defense and armor, +25 are likely to help. > dervish: yes build the expensivish AD item when you have no scalings, very smart :DDD AA doesn't scale from AD? > visage: on this champion, who has no healing? great choice {{item:3072}} {{item:3153}} {{item:3074}} {{item:3812}}, masteries, runes. > and then you die to botrk Yes, many champions are always building it. > what is blind pick Blind doesn't represent main thing, which is draft. In blind you can have mirror teams. > actually yeah, there is only one way > > and that&#x27;s if both are (30 + 1.25) or (30 + 0) > > aaand that&#x27;s never going to happen Hail space panda, the all knowing. > but even if it does your Q gives an armor aura :2 You actually read through concept just now, after so many comments?
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=00030000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T06:35:40.344+0000) > Just an example of hidden execute, which is for some reason on a support. And yes, he isn&#x27;t picked much. Good for me, because i like him a lot. Rright no. It's not hidden. It's like... the most plain as day thing. There are *tons* of cues for it and it's a huge portion of his kit. > You didn&#x27;t needed them before Suspension of disbelief only goes so far! You should know this, *you write stories*. > With every attempt to troll or insult aimed at me, i will respond with low lever of trolling. Thaat's a terrible way to go about it. > If they persist, i will block you from my news feed and will done with it. And therefore you will stop seeing valuable feedback and continue wondering why your posts have massive downvotes. And it will be because people think they are bad. And they will state this. And you will not see it. And you will never become better. > I am nor feigning, neither i am stupid. I just don&#x27;t take senseless trolling seriously. Huh. Interesting. You have very thoroughly played the fool and idiot according me and my friends.
> [{quoted}](name=Elphrihaim,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=000300000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T06:48:07.627+0000) > > Rright no. > > It&#x27;s not hidden. It&#x27;s like... the most plain as day thing. There are *tons* of cues for it and it&#x27;s a huge portion of his kit. Support+execute. You meant to tell me, that supports should get kills and that is not completely wrong for that ability to work in such way? If going support, then turning around and becoming a carry is not a hidden power, then i don't know what is > Thaat&#x27;s a terrible way to go about it. The only way it works. > And therefore you will stop seeing valuable feedback and continue wondering why your posts have massive downvotes. And it will be because people think they are bad. "You spam bad concept", "everything you post is bad", "you can't do this, because i don't like it". Very valuable feedback. No feedback from a hatetard will ever be valuable. People don't change. I am realist And you said yourself, you (and many other people) have multiple accounts. These are usually used to downvoteblast someone or upvote yourself. No wonder i can't get ahead with a single account. I should consider leveling at least few alts. > And they will state this. And you will not see it. Hitler said some good stuff about economy. So i should listen hatetards, because they **may** say something good? No thanks. > And you will never become better. Nazies were clearly better by listening hitler. Oh wait. > Huh. Interesting. > > You have very thoroughly played the fool and idiot according me and my friends. Hail space panda and you alt friends.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T06:27:42.651+0000) > So, when you consciously decide to buy {{item:3156}} or {{item:3742}}, which will tip the scale of the balance and grant you the desired effect, you don&#x27;t really choose. You can&#x27;t choose, it is an illusion. You didn&#x27;t chose what to build, matrix chose for you. Choices are not real, life is not real, hail space panda. > No choice for anybody. If they decide to chose what to build, tell them that is not a choice. Tell them you forced them to want to build it. Stop being dense. The point was obvious. "If your enemies are all AD you will build more Armor than Magic Resistance" and therefore it is not a real choice. Building Magic Resistance-- rather, not building armor, would be obviously and objectively an idiotic choice. Therefore you would not *have* the choice of building armor to get the armor effect because you would be choosing to be easily slaughtered by something else (e.g. BotRK). Therefore, the choice, while it does exist, has no meaning. You would **never** choose to sacrifice the Armor for the sake of getting the Magic Resistance effect in that situation, because it would be downright *stupid*. Therefore, the choice can easily have no meaning. And I notice you haven't addressed that levelling up can screw you over. Also, now that I'm thinking about it, such a mechanic is pretty unintuitive to begin with. And it isn't a **good** kind of choice in the first place.
{{item:3111}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3102}} {{item:3190}} {{item:3137}} you meat to tell me, that these items have no use against AD champions? o_O And you can't build health instead of armor? You tell me, that seeing all AD enemy team on during champion select, you can't just simply pick a different champions who excepts against all AD champion teams (if you have concepts about effectiveness of this champion against full AD team, even if he have specific effect against physical damage, which is gated against all AD teams)? You blew my mind, mate. I done so many things wrong. I can't build {{item:3111}} against AD champions, even if they have tons off CC. I can't build {{item:3065}} to boost my sustain in combination with other items. I can't build {{item:3102}} to negate abilities. I can't build {{item:3190}} for party wide shield. I can't build {{item:3137}} to remove debuffs from me. I can't stack health instead of armor. I can't counter-pick champions. There is no possible way, that champion could have equal armor and magic resist scalings per level, equal starting and end levels of armor and magic resist. I never knew so many things. You may be right, i may be stupid. Thanks for informing me.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=000300000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T05:43:07.924+0000) > > How strange, that all your comments are automatic +3. Not even 10 minutes passed, and yet, they are automatically +3. Feels like you really agree with yourself, but what do i know. I am just a crazy person. well tbh I do have 3 alts that are of vote level I don't spamvote my own stuff unless it's a thread that's been downvoted to heck; and I actually have done that for a lot of *other* concept threads too (though I will submit I can't remember ever doing it for one of yours, but I may have in the past) > {{champion:74}} in same way heimer have hidden power when you fight nearby 3 of his turret, my champion have hidden power when fighting in a minion wave. It is not completely hidden away, it is just shocking and surprising. Okay, yeah. That's fine. That's a slightly different kind of hidden power, but I understand what you meant now (I attacked your phrase because Riot specifically has said that it is bad). Sorry for that confusion. > {{champion:223}} yeah. ........ Why are you even... Tahm isn't even considered a high priority pick, according to my friends who actually watch esports. > Have you looked over the kit? Do see some hidden text there? It is basic math damage+speed=more damage. Enemies, who can&#x27;t do math will be surprised (a.k.a hidden power) for lots of damage from minions, because, well, they can&#x27;t do math. Actually I didn't look it over too detailedly because I was kind of done with your concept before I even started reading your W, since your passive and Q were so dumb. > What questions? Oh wait, this was a questions. Do i have to pick a letter now? Damn it, i made i question again. > Alright, i can do this. I am thinking about option C. Yea, i am choosing option C. Do i win something? God damn it, i made q question again. I am bad at this game. Allow me to simplify the question. Are you feigning or actually stupid? > I am son of hitler and prime minister of China. I have seven wives and i live on the moon. I breed space dogs and ride on giant space eagle to the sun, where i am walking on its surface in my bare feet, because i am also a giant panda. > I said it, so it must be truth :D I mean, you can say those things, but they aren't *believable* so I'm going to say that you need some proof. Whereas "hidden power" is very believable considering what I know of your history and therefore I will take it until proven otherwise.
> [{quoted}](name=Elphrihaim,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=0003000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T05:54:52.365+0000) > > ........ Why are you even... Tahm isn&#x27;t even considered a high priority pick, according to my friends who actually watch esports. Just an example of hidden execute, which is for some reason on a support. And yes, he isn't picked much. Good for me, because i like him a lot. > Actually I didn&#x27;t look it over too detailedly because I was kind of done with your concept before I even started reading your W, since your passive and Q were so dumb. Hail space panda. > Allow me to simplify the question. > > Are you feigning or actually stupid? Hail space panda. > I mean, you can say those things, but they aren&#x27;t *believable* so I&#x27;m going to say that you need some proof. You didn't needed them before, so hail space panda. > Whereas &quot;hidden power&quot; is very believable considering what I know of your history and therefore I will take it until proven otherwise. With every attempt to troll or insult aimed at me, i will respond with low lever of trolling, hail space panda. If they persist, i will block you from my news feed and will done with it. I am nor feigning, neither i am stupid. I just don't take senseless trolling seriously and hail space panda.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-06-21T05:08:33.389+0000) >No, not really. He needs minions to be strong, but he is average even without minions. Have strong targeted debuff, damage reduction, execute. No. Just... no? The debuff, while strong, is basically everything he has to offer-- the damage reduction is 40% and only for himself (why would anybody ever attack him though), the turrets can easily be walked out of range of and if you have three set up beforehand their damage is pretty negligible anyway (120 => barely more than a single AA from a max level champion with no AD in build) \* and if your team is AD heavy, your enemies will build armor heavy, and 30 armor shred for 3 seconds isn't going to be as useful-- especially given that the shred duration overlaps with the slow duration, so you aren't going to be able to truly take advantage of it. And, of course, since *he has no scalings*, **any money he gets due to his execute** (which he needs to kill an enemy with for an optimal teamfight!) **is basically wasted**. And said execute does up to 600 (+10% target's Max HP) damage if target is at 35% or less HP. But, uh, that's going to be hardly happening considering **he can do no real damage** without a minion wave or idiot opponents. > I think you meant passive. Riot is preaching for meaningful choices - this is meaningful choice. I am just doing what riot is doing. No, this isn't meaningful choice. You don't really choose. You may pick some stats over the other because of who your opponents are and oh look now your armor-magic resistance balance is off. Or, worse, you **level up** and the balance changes. Also it's passives. You have two of them, one on W and one on E. Therefore it is a plural.
> [{quoted}](name=Elphrihaim,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-06-21T05:22:27.314+0000) > > You don&#x27;t really choose. You may pick some stats over the other because of who your opponents are and oh look now your armor-magic resistance balance is off. :D So, when you consciously decide to buy {{item:3156}} or {{item:3742}}, which will tip the scale of the balance and grant you the desired effect, you don't really choose. You can't choose, it is an illusion. You didn't chose what to build, matrix chose for you. Choices are not real, life is not real, hail space panda. No choice for anybody. If they decide to chose what to build, tell them that is not a choice. Tell them you forced them to want to build it. In conclusion, i want to say this:.... :DDDDD
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=0003000000000001,timestamp=2016-06-21T04:59:22.846+0000) > So you admit you are flying monkey? No. Because I am not. > Equal questions. ...No. Learn basic logic please. You effectively said that the hidden power was intentional. Riot has many, many, many times said that hidden power is something they want to not have, because it is bad and or or unhealthy for the game's state. If you say you intentionally put hidden power into the kit, then you are intentionally making something that Riot has deemed bad and or or unhealthy for the game. Which is *exactly* what I said. Already. And therefore the questions have ZERO equivalence, because a: One is actually relevant b: One is actually rhetorical c: One is well thought through d: One is a semiveiled stab at a user's habits e: One is outrageous in premise > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=000300000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-06-21T04:58:43.880+0000) > > Never said it, never will. YOU LITERALLY WROTE THAT YOU DID IT ON PURPOSE. Unless you are claiming that «Hidden Power is not unhealthy for the game». In which case, um... You're just wrong.
How strange, that all your comments are automatic +3. Not even 10 minutes passed, and yet, they are automatically +3. Feels like you really agree with yourself, but what do i know. I am just a crazy person. > [{quoted}](name=Elphrihaim,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=00030000000000010000,timestamp=2016-06-21T05:11:17.130+0000) > > No. Because I am not. Well, based on how you are questioning me, i might indulge myself in doing just that. You never stated before that you aren't flying monkey. There are no pictures of you in here, there is no detailed scientific papers done on you, there is no proof that you aren't a flying monkey. Lots of people said they seen flying monkeys, so thus saying something makes it undeniably truth (like i said i put some hidden power, so you assume this is all about hidden power, champion doesn't actually have hidden power, it is just surprising power, because all things in his kit is clear, nothing is actually hidden), that might mean you are a flying monkey. Riot never said they will not allow flying monkeys to play this game, thus because something something and something you said, that makes you a potential suspect in being a flying monkey. > ...No. Learn basic logic please. You effectively said that the hidden power was intentional. {{champion:74}} in same way heimer have hidden power when you fight nearby 3 of his turret, my champion have hidden power when fighting in a minion wave. It is not completely hidden away, it is just shocking and surprising. > Riot has many, many, many times said that hidden power is something they want to not have, because it is bad and or or unhealthy for the game&#x27;s state. {{champion:223}} yeah. > If you say you intentionally put hidden power into the kit, then you are intentionally making something that Riot has deemed bad and or or unhealthy for the game. Have you looked over the kit? Do see some hidden text there? It is basic math damage+speed=more damage. Enemies, who can't do math will be surprised (a.k.a hidden power) for lots of damage from minions, because, well, they can't do math. > Which is *exactly* what I said. Already. Yes, you said it. I can say stuff too :D > And therefore the questions have ZERO equivalence, because > > a: One is actually relevant > b: One is actually rhetorical > c: One is well thought through > d: One is a semiveiled stab at a user&#x27;s habits > e: One is outrageous in premise What questions? Oh wait, this was a questions. Do i have to pick a letter now? Damn it, i made i question again. Alright, i can do this. I am thinking about option C. Yea, i am choosing option C. Do i win something? God damn it, i made q question again. I am bad at this game. > YOU LITERALLY WROTE THAT YOU DID IT ON PURPOSE. I am son of hitler and prime minister of China. I have seven wives and i live on the moon. I breed space dogs and ride on giant space eagle to the sun, where i am walking on its surface in my bare feet, because i am also a giant panda. I said it, so it must be truth :D > Unless you are claiming that «Hidden Power is not unhealthy for the game». > > In which case, um... You&#x27;re just wrong. Don't argue with space panda. Space panda is never wrong. I said it, so it must be truth.
: while I disagree with the tone of some of the comments here, they do have a point. this concept is very limited in its usefulness because he needs minions to work. also his W and E sorta contradict each other in that only one can be used at a time, and that doesn't seem like fun. you could fix that easily if you add some power to him that isn't minion related and change the conditions for his W and E. as far as numbers, I don't think there's much point to discuss that. hope I don't come out as hater, this just constructive criticism.
> [{quoted}](name=pasta zugotini,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-06-21T00:53:12.865+0000) > > while I disagree with the tone of some of the comments here, they do have a point. this concept is very limited in its usefulness because he needs minions to work. No, not really. He needs minions to be strong, but he is average even without minions. Have strong targeted debuff, damage reduction, execute. P.S. some changes are incoming, so look it up when you get a chance. > also his W and E sorta contradict each other in that only one can be used at a time, and that doesn&#x27;t seem like fun. I think you meant passive. Riot is preaching for meaningful choices - this is meaningful choice. I am just doing what riot is doing. > you could fix that easily if you add some power to him that isn&#x27;t minion related and change the conditions for his W and E. Power is being added, minion focus remains. We have no other champion focused around minion power. > hope I don&#x27;t come out as hater, this just constructive criticism. Yes, it is constructive criticism. I will reflect on that an change some stuff.
Arakadia (NA)
: He's not saying his whole design is based off hidden power. Again if you change he numbers, let him bring minions with him, and give him some Cc the concept wouldn't be bad. And every concept needs number tweaking.
Don't argue, please. Some people can't think beyond simple things. I will change some things around minion power and CC. Look up this concept after some time (roughly 30 min after this comment was made).
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2016-06-20T21:30:51.357+0000) > It looks like that. I am sneaky :D i put a lot of hidden power. So you admit that your design here is bad and unhealthy for the game? Hidden power is literally one of *the things* that Riot has been preaching against.
So you admit you are flying monkey? Equal questions.
: > [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T23:16:52.184+0000) > > His design isn&#x27;t bad per say, but hidden power isn&#x27;t. Oh, yeah, totally. None of the things are objectively bad. "Hidden power" is, though, and he basically said that that's a core part of the design here.
Arakadia (NA)
: Cool idea but the minion power feels weak. If he could create his own minions it would be so much better and flow well, but he would then become Azir. Also this tank has very little damage, no CC except a slow, and no mobility. I suggest you give him some CC. I'm sorry about some of the other posts, they feel like they have mean intent.
> [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=z5K7Qso6,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-06-20T21:02:57.753+0000) > > Cool idea but the minion power feels weak. It looks like that. I am sneaky :D i put a lot of hidden power. Simply combination of Passive, E and R (when you execute someone), will cause minions to deal more than double damage against clear target. Imagine a minion wave dealing 2x damage to a single enemy you have chosen. I am sneaky like that. > If he could create his own minions it would be so much better and flow well, but he would then become Azir. Yea, and they both are from deserts. Azir already have passive, which is completely useless for 90% of the game and can let enemy team to farm gold from it, if used wrong. Even if they both can make towers, my version is so much better , because you can place it wherever you want. You can use to push against enemies, ward yourself, defend and so on. It is so good, i had to make weaknesses. Towers are his "minions" and i prefer it as it is. > Also this tank has very little damage, no CC except a slow, and no mobility. I suggest you give him some CC. True. Very true. Yet, fighting him in a minion wave will make him much more powerful. He excels where no other tanky champions excels - protecting lines, split pushing, building minion waves and so on. But there might be some place for some CC in the kit. Have any suggestions? > I&#x27;m sorry about some of the other posts, they feel like they have mean intent. Don't be. I blocked hatetards from my news feed. Can't see anything they post and i don't care what they comment. To be fair, they could be saying how great this concept is, i still wouldn't care.
: +1 for not giving up ;) May you help me with my lore? I am crafting a champion, but would love to get your insight on it before posting.
Candurill (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=0001000100020000000000000000000100000001,timestamp=2016-06-20T19:06:40.271+0000) > > For the love of god, if you believe in any of them, you do understand that you are trying to reason with hate machines, whose first comment ever was pure hatred? > > Do you want to be stalked by haters and then your every comment by blasted by non-sentient comments and downvotes? > > You look like a person who lives for extreme. Do you go skying during winter? Or snowboarding? I personally like those activities. It gives more better feelings and way better levels of adrenaline than dealing with haters. I would advice doing that rather than speaking with C-word. Like I said, maybe im naive ^^ But I don't think they are here just to hate. If they are, let them come. If there is anything haters dislike more then not agreeing with them, then that's understanding ^^ I'm not afraid of haters, because I do not give them reason to hate :) And no, I do not go skiing...I tried mind you, but I broke my arm (twice tbh) and saw that as a sign that I shouldn't ski... I do like to go skydiving though...haven't broken anything while doing that yet ^^
> [{quoted}](name=Candurill,realm=EUW,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=00010001000200000000000000000001000000010000,timestamp=2016-06-20T19:52:25.341+0000) > > I do like to go skydiving though...haven&#x27;t broken anything while doing that yet ^^ I don't want to be bearer of bad fate, but if you broke anything during that, you can brake everything during that. Then i would have no one to teach why digimon are better than pokemon.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=000400000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T18:50:09.202+0000) >[snip embeds] Huh. Welp. I uh... haven't seen it in game. > Look at comments in this post. Yeah-- and some on the very first page in chronological and on the second page have +1 total vote with no downs/ups. > Most of people will let other people be harassed, most people will harass someone. I am not even talking about mass killings, who happens in the world every week or more often. I don't know too many people that don't try to act. Btw "omnipotent" is actually correct in that context. "Omniscient" would be better, but "omnipotent" includes "omniscient". > I trusted, got suspended. 2 times: for discussing politics and then for discussing different games. I somehow doubt this but ok > Ok, i will challenge you to improve based on these comments Sure! It's easy to get better feedback out of people if you probe them a little All of those statements while bland and giving little assistance, >spamming bad concepts Ask the commenter why the concepts are bad. >you can't make something because i don't like it Ask the commenter what they don't like. >it is unfun to me specifically, so you can't make it Ask the commenter why they believe the kit to be anti-fun. > Yes, they are. So hateful, thought, that i downloaded a bot to black-list them. Wow! That's... that's impressive. >_< > And you just recently said you are not omniscience. Where that went away? Seems like you can&#x27;t be consistent with your points. I forgot to write in past tense. I meant "Nobody felt", and I say that from having read a bunch of posts along your concepts. > No no no. Just recently you said it is ok to give people 1/20 for everything. Is it ok for one person, it is ok for them all: _&quot;But as long as there was no bias-- you graded everybody equally ridiculously harshly-- then no, I imagine people wouldn&#x27;t really mind that because they could logically see how you&#x27;re just being very strict instead of loose-- which is a great way to help people improve.&quot;_ > I would even be even more fain an unbiased by giving nearly everyone 1/20, not just to one person. As long as your *reason for the score* is based exclusively on the concept, as opposed to *the poster* of it, then nobody will complain. If your score is based on the person posting it, then it is a biased score. Please don't switch what I'm saying into not what I said. > Then we are playing two different games. League of Legends by Riot Games *isn't* the game you're playing? Then what **are** you playing? > I usually too, because they are banned in 99% of my games. That 1% bugs me, though. Huh.
> [{quoted}](name=BestWirymNA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T19:39:08.460+0000) > > Huh. Welp. I uh... haven&#x27;t seen it in game. When what are you playing? > Yeah-- and some on the very first page in chronological and on the second page have +1 total vote with no downs/ups. So it only shows that some people are lazy, downvote only first comments. So? > I don&#x27;t know too many people that don&#x27;t try to act. 100% of this forum never acts on these things. > Btw &quot;omnipotent&quot; is actually correct in that context. &quot;Omniscient&quot; would be better, but &quot;omnipotent&quot; includes &quot;omniscient&quot;. True. So? > I somehow doubt this but ok Doubt as much as you want, do i need to copy-paste official response from riot? > Sure! It&#x27;s easy to get better feedback out of people if you probe them a little All of those statements while bland and giving little assistance, > > Ask the commenter why the concepts are bad. > > Ask the commenter what they don&#x27;t like. > > Ask the commenter why they believe the kit to be anti-fun. And some things will be commented again. "Your concept is bad" why? "I don't like this because i think it works like that" but it doesn't work like that. "Your concept is bad". Usual feedback i get from hatetards. > I forgot to write in past tense. I meant &quot;Nobody felt&quot;, and I say that from having read a bunch of posts along your concepts. I coomment on how i have hatetards downvoting everything, a hatetaard comes and calls all my concept bad, when he can't even make something as good as my worst concepts. I was at fault here, it seems. Well, alright. I should take all abuse i get, right? Again, why is your points so inconsistent? > As long as your *reason for the score* is based exclusively on the concept, as opposed to *the poster* of it, then nobody will complain. Look at the last CCOS. Did nobody complained? And don't start putting conditions. Cancer have points not for my concept, he gave it for me. > If your score is based on the person posting it, then it is a biased score. Well that happened last month, so why it can't happen next month? > Please don&#x27;t switch what I&#x27;m saying into not what I said. Then stop changing things you say. > League of Legends by Riot Games *isn&#x27;t* the game you&#x27;re playing? Then what **are** you playing? You get no flamers in your teams. You are clearly not playing League of legends.
Candurill (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=My belief is,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=00010001000200000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-06-20T17:46:57.471+0000) > > then he&#x27;s denying improvement from himself. > > I don&#x27;t think anybody here is trying to be mean, just trying to get a point through and being frustrated in their inability to do so. > > &amp;nbsp; > I think you can see that regonas completely lacks any capacity to accept that people have opinions and they aren&#x27;t blindly hating something. Maybe I'm naive or maybe i have to much faith in my fellow humans...But i truly think that his attitude is not a result of his person alone... If you can't get the point through, just let it go and live with it. I came to this conclusion some time ago and its makes dealing with him much easier. He has a strong opinion and does not waver from it. Which can be a good thing in some parts of daily life. Does it do you any harm if he does not change his concept to what you say? I don't think so... I always bring my feedback on concepts with the disclaimer that its my personal opinion and that if the creator does not agree with it, or if my opinion would change it too much, that he or she should just keep to their own concept. Like i said, we make concepts as a hobby for ourselves, not for others ^^ at least I do...Other people liking it is just a bonus ^^
For the love of god, if you believe in any of them, you do understand that you are trying to reason with hate machines, whose first comment ever was pure hatred? Do you want to be stalked by haters and then your every comment by blasted by non-sentient comments and downvotes? You look like a person who lives for extreme. Do you go skying during winter? Or snowboarding? I personally like those activities. It gives more better feelings and way better levels of adrenaline than dealing with haters. I would advice doing that rather than speaking with C-word.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T06:14:31.232+0000) > > Then why are they voting? Some people don&#x27;t want to see other people succeed. If lots of people in the middle of the game starts calling person &quot;retard&quot;, starts to fantasize in doing stuff to his/her mother and so on, you think those people don&#x27;t come here and try to do the same thing? ....I don't think people would hold such a bizarre fantasy-- they're just saying it because they heard it somewhere else. > So, with community so toxic, then on average, you have at least one flamer in your team, you believe that most of the community is reasonable people? Well I usually don't have any flamers in my games, so... your anecdote is impossible for me to judge because I personally think its premise is false. > Just look through comments - every comment is downvoted, no matter what i say. Hmm... No, that's not true. I see plenty of your posts with no votes in either direction on them. > Not assumption. An observation. An assumption based on observation is still an assumption. We are not omnipotent, we cannot *know for certain* some set of fact. > That is sometimes the case. But, most of the times, people hate something and then search for reasons to hate someone. Though, i am not allowed to give examples, because Riot doesn&#x27;t allow to discuss politics, religion or similar matters. Or--or maybe just maybe? You could trust your fellows to not report relevant discussion. Since it isn't politics/religion that is actually banned, it is simply said so to be more easy to moderate as it falls more readily under a catchall. > Yes, you really do have much greater faith. That is called optimists. > You are not a bad person to believe in people, but your faith will be broken sooner or later. Sorry. People have said that to me for years. Hasn't happened yet. I believe that it is never going to happen. I am the child of the world in that regard, ehe. > I never refuse to improve. I refuse in taking advice from hateful people. Y-yes, and in doing that you refuse to improve because the people you call hateful are not hateful and are actually giving you lots of good advice. > In every concept do for moths now, if a valid points are made about my champions by respectful and intelligent people, i consider them greatly. .... This post took me a long time to make because I had to go reeaaaaad. And yeah, you do consider points. But it takes a *long time*. And *tons* of feedback from *tons* of people for most of the changes that I can actually find. > Good example is Candurill. He doesn&#x27;t agree with me in many things, but he don&#x27;t feel the need to harass or offend me. there are more people like him, but i can&#x27;t remember their names right now. However, these people are minority. *Nobody* feels the need to harass or offend you until *after* you do something that they think crosses a boundary. > Ok, next month i will enter as a judge, give every person who disagrees with me all 1, but i will give all 20 to people who agrees with me. > You said this perfectly fine, if i give honest reviews in exchange to honest scores. Will be expecting to be called &quot;harsh&quot; then. That is not an honest review, however. That is in fact the exact opposite of what I meant by an honest review. > Yes, but in current meta assassins delete everyone, even if they start mid game with 0/10. These champions are banned in nearly every game for a reason. ... I have never had that experience. > **How it should be:** > Assassin &gt; ADC > Tank &gt; Assassin > ADC &gt; Tank > Support &lt; Everybody else > Bruiser &gt;= Tank, Assassin, ADC Yeah, roughly right. > **How it is:** > Assassin &gt; Everyone else > Bruiser &gt; Everyone else, except Assassins > Tank = ADC > Support &lt; Everyone else I... No, I don't see this as the game state at all. > Mostly no one can fight against good Zed, no matter his score. Same goes with most of the assassins i mentioned and Yasuo. I've never had an issue fighting against Zed/Yasuo. o_O > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=000100010002000100000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T07:04:06.426+0000) > Good shows usually start good: > Bleach > Death Note ..I found both of these to be pretty bad despite having good hooks...
> [{quoted}](name=BestWirymNA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T17:41:31.565+0000) > > ....I don&#x27;t think people would hold such a bizarre fantasy-- they&#x27;re just saying it because they heard it somewhere else. > > Well I usually don&#x27;t have any flamers in my games, so... your anecdote is impossible for me to judge because I personally think its premise is false. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF-CzyvHZT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSD3tqOrzYs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJAz_fGiBhA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdg6cnE6IyM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvyD_8TgvXw > Hmm... No, that&#x27;s not true. I see plenty of your posts with no votes in either direction on them. Look at comments in this post. > An assumption based on observation is still an assumption. We are not ~~omnipotent~~ omniscience, we cannot *know for certain* some set of fact. Most of people will let other people be harassed, most people will harass someone. I am not even talking about mass killings, who happens in the world every week or more often. > Or--or maybe just maybe? > > You could trust your fellows to not report relevant discussion. Since it isn&#x27;t politics/religion that is actually banned, it is simply said so to be more easy to moderate as it falls more readily under a catchall. I trusted, got suspended. 2 times: for discussing politics and then for discussing different games. > Y-yes, and in doing that you refuse to improve because the people you call hateful are not hateful and are actually giving you lots of good advice. Ok, i will challenge you to improve based on these comments "you spam bad concept" or "you can't make something, because i don't like it" or "it is unfun to me specifically, so you can't make it". Yes, very helpful. Yes, they are. So hateful, thought, that i downloaded a bot to black-list them. > *Nobody* feels the need to harass or offend you until *after* you do something that they think crosses a boundary. And you just recently said you are not omniscience. Where that went away? Seems like you can't be consistent with your points. > That is not an honest review, however. > That is in fact the exact opposite of what I meant by an honest review. No no no. Just recently you said it is ok to give people 1/20 for everything. Is it ok for one person, it is ok for them all: _"But as long as there was no bias-- you graded everybody equally ridiculously harshly-- then no, I imagine people wouldn't really mind that because they could logically see how you're just being very strict instead of loose-- which is a great way to help people improve."_ I would even be even more fain an unbiased by giving nearly everyone 1/20, not just to one person. > I... No, I don&#x27;t see this as the game state at all. Then we are playing two different games. > I&#x27;ve never had an issue fighting against Zed/Yasuo. o_O I usually too, because they are banned in 99% of my games. That 1% bugs me, though. > ..I found both of these to be pretty bad despite having good hooks... That is a personal taste. Can't argue what you should and shouldn't like.
: That is Sargon of Akkad. I love some of his videos.
I didn't know who is pictured here, but thanks for sharing this information.
: The Survey
Maybe not the best board to post this, as it fit more into _Boards Feedback_ board, but god damn it, this is really good suggestion. Now, many people simply ignore those surveys. I can't agree more with you, OP (maybe 5games is a little too much, but there is a need for some kind of reward).
: well i do like it.
Rioter Comments
Candurill (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=000100010002000100000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T07:04:06.426+0000) > > I simply lack patience to watch though 100 bad episodes until it gets good. Usually 2 episodes is my limit. I gave this show 21 episodes chance, but it let me down big time. > Good shows usually start good: > D.Gray-man > Bleach > Death Note > Magi > Full Metal Alchemist > Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai kara Kuru Sou Desu yo? > and so on. > > &quot;Flu&quot; would indicate it is a disease which can be cured. He doesn&#x27;t exists for me, so i will cal him nothing. Understandable :) Its indeed a bit weird to have to watch a lot before it gets fun. Some people are just a bit more patient than others ^^ As for the others you mentioned. I started Bleach but didn't like it, and i watched Full Metal Alchemist to completion. The last was amazing :) Death note is just horrible...ain't even gonna bother saying anything more about it.... the rest i don't know XD
I am not sure if Riots allows discussing anime here, though. Got suspended for saying that certain politician in USA is hated for being a good man, which is stupid, and he is pretty funny at the same time. If we are allowed to discuss anime, then: Death Note is morally horrible, as main character is delusional psychopath. However, as a form of art and entertainment, it was brilliant. Nothing really happens through out the series, yet people can't take their eyes away. Aside from morality, it is great anime.
Candurill (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=My belief is,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=000100010002000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T07:01:04.300+0000) > > did you look at the last few times? I did. > > Was painfully obvious to me that none of the huge walls of feedback were entering that skull nor the little bumps. oh im very well aware :) but thats also partially in the way you guys give it. Maybe not the first time, but after him going against whatever you say, you become angry (which is completely understandable, i did it too) and at that point he is past even listening to whatever you say. This is wrong of him, yes. But maybe try and be a bit more patient. If he does not agree with what you say, just let it go. It's not harming you ^^ We are all proud of our concepts, he a bit too much, but thats not bad ^^ It's hard hearing that something you thought was amazing, actually was a bit overpowered/overloaded/unthematical/etc. There is never one side to an argument that has not made any mistakes. We are all human and we all make mistakes. Some people just need a little more patience ^^ By going fire against fire, you only make it worse. Again, I'm not saying your wrong and im not saying he's right. I'm just saying that this is just something that spiralled out of control and now its just a pissing contest of who can be the meanest while still sounding logical.
Never trust anything designed for or by google :D Installed google bot to make comments form C-word invisible, but i still can see them when someone quotes them :D Don't act friendly with a C-word person. His first comment ever: > [{quoted}](name=My belief is,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=IAv8yEFV,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-06-16T18:57:04.499+0000) > > no > > it&#x27;s because you spam the boards with bad concepts that people downvote it so much Certified hater and nothing he post or comment will ever mater, so he is permanently blocked from my news feed.
: Champion Concept: E.N.D.
Oh boy :D http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/waLF2bEg-lore-concept-the-beginning-of-the-end Looks like we have a stand off over here. I wanted to use that name for a big concept, but looks like you got to it first.
Candurill (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=0001000100020001,timestamp=2016-06-19T23:45:41.882+0000) > > Are you serious? That was crossing the line. I will not stand for this! You meant to say, that one piece is better than Digimon?! That is blasphemy!! How dera ya to speak in thus way which defiles the only true god of our land. Burn the heretic. > > (To anyone else reading, i am kidding of course. We have this running gag of which we argue which of these two is better: digimon or pokemon. I say digimon, he says the other thing :D so, i spiced things up a little bit. These all are harmless jokes, don&#x27;t get all offended if you like one piece. I personally regard it as the worst non-hentai anime, but what i know, i only watched 21 episodes of it. Maybe it gets better at episode 100 or something) WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAT????? OUTRAGIOUS!!!! This is how you think? And you call yourself genius?!?!?! How can something as crude and simple as Digimon EVER be better then the raw complexity and divine poetic inspiration of One Piece? You sir, have no respect for the true arts out there!! No but seriously, :P it does indeed get better after the first 100 episodes XD It's generally understood that the first few episodes of One Piece are rather droll....Maybe give it another chance? On a side note, I get that you are angry at Echoing, and you have all right to be though I might not full agree with it, but calling him Cancer is going a bit too far. Not so much as to him, cus I don't really care what name you call him, but Cancer is a serious illness (both my grandparents and a few other family members have been taken from me by it) and I'd personally really appreciate it if you did not use that word to ridicule someone. Call him Flu or something....XD
I simply lack patience to watch though 100 bad episodes until it gets good. Usually 2 episodes is my limit. I gave this show 21 episodes chance, but it let me down big time. Good shows usually start good: D.Gray-man Bleach Death Note Magi Full Metal Alchemist Mondaiji-tachi ga Isekai kara Kuru Sou Desu yo? and so on. "Flu" would indicate it is a disease which can be cured. He doesn't exists for me, so i will cal him nothing.
Xidphel (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-06-19T20:25:50.463+0000) > > Yes, just yes. &quot;if they have something they hate then they&#x27;re going to grasp at that first&quot;, but when they simply can&#x27;t grasp anything, they will simply downvote. Which then mean my concept is so good, the only negative thing they can do is pushing a button. http://i.imgur.com/An54zFW.png Source: http://www.nuklearpower.com/2008/01/15/episode-942-cross-eyed-traffic/
So sorry i insult you with intelligence. Don't worry though, i will not be commenting on you comments and will not see them anymore, as google bot allows me to blacklist you, making everything you post to look like beautiful box of black texture. Bye.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-19T23:29:09.778+0000) > > No, you are shifting from the point. I don't think I am. >If a person wants to make something to look bad, but he can&#x27;t dish something, because everything is good or great, then what else that person can do? Then, I maintain, they would not vote on it. > If something great, but you want to make it look bad, then what you do: try make it look by words. If you can&#x27;t do that by words, then only option left is downvoting. ...If we assume that people are terrible, yes. > This is why downvotes with no actual comments simply meant that concept is great. Haters can&#x27;t say anything about the concept, so they go rogue. ........ I disagree. People that hate something hate it for something they feel is so *obvious* that if the person who made it should be able to figure out why simply by rereading it; or will comment on what they hate about it if nobody has already addressed that point yet (or, as discussion grows, point it out regardless because reading multiple pages of discussion is annoying). >(whether you can&#x27;t believe people can be genuine haters or that you believe there isn&#x27;t enough haters out there) I think I have much greater faith in humanity than you seem to, from this... I think that while there are people who would hate in the way you describe, I think those people would also write something in the comments to reinforce their point. > How many people got ~lowest possible scores in the last CCOS with as much effort put into their concept as i was? Even if you disregard the efforts, who else got ~LOWEST POSSIBLE SCORE? Nobody else did. But, well, you think you put a lot of effort into your concept and the judges didn't. They thought it was poor. I agree with the judges on this point, because your concept was very bleh and not particularly conducive to anything good. > I have two things to say. > 1) No, i am not refusing to improve. I refuse to to validate cancer. But you *are* refusing to improve by ignoring advice. That's... basic logic. And, if you "refuse to to validate cancer", then you may want to actually check what this "cancer" has told you and then proceed to do the *opposite* of it and flourish-- as that would be the ultimate refusal. >If a person is allowed to sabotage other people, give biased useless reviews (which might be directed only at me, but as i read through recent comments, nearly no one was happy by his poor excuse of scoring and reviews), then i simply don&#x27;t want anything to do with that person. The review was definitely not useless in the case of the CCOS. It had value for each contestant that I read-- a bit simplistic and *very* harsh, but there was definitely some helpful information to be easily taken away. > 2) If you won&#x27;t stop bringing cancer back, i will stop responding. I asked you to spot mentioning him. ...who do you mean by cancer? If you call them cancer I can't know who you're talking about. ;_; > Then why most of them are called one-shotting-champions? Rengar, with full AD build, double Q for 3k damage with lucky crits. > [snipped videoes] > Not &quot;would&quot;, but &quot;is&quot;. If enemy team picks any of them (especially Zed, Fizz, Rengar) and you pick {{champion:22}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:21}} or any similar ADC with no mobility - you are screwed. Because they're *fed*. Also, they are *assassins* (except Yasuo). Their **job in game** is to delete the ADC. You're complaining that something's working mostly as intended.
> [{quoted}](name=BestWirymNA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=000400000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-20T00:27:52.821+0000) > > I don&#x27;t think I am. > > Then, I maintain, they would not vote on it. Then why are they voting? Some people don't want to see other people succeed. If lots of people in the middle of the game starts calling person "retard", starts to fantasize in doing stuff to his/her mother and so on, you think those people don't come here and try to do the same thing? So, with community so toxic, when on average, you have at least one flamer in your team, you believe that most of the community is reasonable people? Just look through comments - every comment is downvoted, no matter what i say. You live in a fantasy world. > ...If we assume that people are terrible, yes. Not assumption. An observation. > ........ I disagree. People that hate something hate it for something they feel is so *obvious* that if the person who made it should be able to figure out why simply by rereading it; or will comment on what they hate about it if nobody has already addressed that point yet (or, as discussion grows, point it out regardless because reading multiple pages of discussion is annoying). That is sometimes the case. But, most of the times, people hate something and then search for reasons to hate someone. Though, i am not allowed to give examples, because Riot doesn't allow to discuss politics, religion or similar matters. > I think I have much greater faith in humanity than you seem to, from this... I think that while there are people who would hate in the way you describe, I think those people would also write something in the comments to reinforce their point. Yes, you really do have much greater faith. That is called optimism. You are not a bad person to believe in people, but your faith will be broken sooner or later. Sorry. > But you *are* refusing to improve by ignoring advice. That&#x27;s... basic logic. I never refuse to improve. I refuse in taking advice from hateful people. In every concept, if a valid points are made about my champions by respectful and intelligent people, i consider them greatly. Good example is Candurill. He doesn't agree with me in many things, but he don't feel the need to harass or offend me. there are more people like him, but i can't remember their names right now. However, these people are minority. > The review was definitely not useless in the case of the CCOS. It had value for each contestant that I read-- a bit simplistic and *very* harsh, but there was definitely some helpful information to be easily taken away. Ok, next month i will enter as a judge, give every person who disagrees with me all-1, but i will give all-20 to people who agrees with me. You said this perfectly fine, if i give """"honest"""" reviews in exchange to honest scores. Will be expecting to be called "harsh" then. > Because they&#x27;re *fed*. Also, they are *assassins* (except Yasuo). Their **job in game** is to delete the ADC. Yes, but in current meta assassins delete everyone, even if they start mid game with 0/10. These champions are banned in nearly every game for a reason. > You&#x27;re complaining that something&#x27;s working mostly as intended. Clearly we are playing different games then. **How it should be:** Assassin > ADC Tank > Assassin ADC > Tank Support < Everybody else Bruiser >= Tank, Assassin, ADC **How it is:** Assassin > Everyone else Bruiser > Everyone else, except Assassins Tank = ADC Support < Everyone else Mostly no one can fight against good Zed, no matter his score. Same goes with most of the assassins i mentioned and Yasuo.
Candurill (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2016-06-19T17:13:08.702+0000) > > Little bit off topic. You have seen many of my champions before. On your honest opinion, how many of them are completely bad and how many of them are completely brilliant? Do i tend to overdo myself and fill a champions with too much information from kit, to lore, to quotes, to bonus information? > > To tell you the truth, little a while ago i was reminded how brilliant i am in making champions, but do i do too much or too little? I can do 3D art, voice acting, animations, even coined with warcraft 3 hero editor to change it into champion building tool (failed horribly, but at least i tried), i create interconnected massive stories between champions and places, but... It seems the less i do, the better reception i get. Usually people skip though everything and care only about what they don&#x27;t like (if a person don&#x27;t like the art, he/she will comment on that and skip evertyhing else; if he/she don&#x27;t like the story, then he/she will skip though everything else; and so on). What do you think? Does it look like i waste too much effort on lore, modeling, quotes, etc? > > P.S. Digimon &gt; Simpsons &gt; Pokemon Oh thats a hard question.... tbh, none of them are actually completely bad (althought the downvotes might suggest otherwise) and none are TRULY genius. Very few of them actually spike my personal interest, but they are not therefor "bad concepts". Thats a personal thing. You have a lot of great ideas and you REALLY do balance them very well, which is i think the strongest point you bring to the table. I'm not very good with the numbers in games like this (i might be if i took the time to study it, but frankly, i don't really care XD), but most concepts seem reasonable and very well thought out. Others do indeed seem a bit too overloaded (Unique mechanics, passives with multiple parts, abilities with multiple forms, etc.). The one point you fall a bit short in my opinion, is that even though you make a whole background, place and origin story, which is very creative and usually well written, it seldom truly fits the style and feel of the established league lore. It's maybe the style of your writing or the idea all together, but i rarely find your champions fit in theme wise. And i don't mean "He does not connect with the established lore" since you always mention other champions in your lore, but just mentioning them does not make a champion fit in with the world. The whole, three page lore thing is indeed overdoing it a bit...i get that you want people to notice the lore, which you took so much time for to create, but very (very) few people actually take the time to read lore...some even saying it is unimportant for a champion. I find that sad cus its one of my favorite things...but yea thats the truth :/ For short, you are (in my opinion) definitely one of the better concept creators on the boards, seriously. It's like i have seen many other commenters say, its mostly your attitude that ticks people off, not so much your concepts, since a lot of them are very well designed. You have your very own style of creating a concept, which is very good, and something you shouldn't change. Maybe read some (or all) the League lore and try to make little stories for champions (not whole chapters). Big lores are nice for those that like it, but people tend to skip them. Try not to make kits too overloaded, and try to make even the effects fit in theme wise. I...hope that this answers your question? :) You asked me to be honest and i just wrote down my thoughts. Take from it what you will, like i said its just my opinion and you should always stay true to yourself. We make concepts for ourselves (cus riot ain't gonna use em anyway) so at least make sure YOU like them. also: One Piece/Fairytail > Pokemon > Digimon > Simpsons
Are you serious? That was crossing the line. I will not stand for this! You meant to say, that one piece is better than Digimon?! That is blasphemy!! How dera ya to speak in thus way which defiles the only true god of our land. Burn the heretic. (To anyone else reading, i am kidding of course. We have this running gag of which we argue which of these two is better: digimon or pokemon. I say digimon, he says the other thing :D so, i spiced things up a little bit. These all are harmless jokes, don't get all offended if you like one piece. I personally regard it as the worst non-hentai anime, but what i know, i only watched 21 episodes of it. Maybe it gets better at episode 100 or something)
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=000400000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-19T22:01:53.470+0000) > > I asked &quot;if&quot;. For your refusal to answer, my point stands. You asked me "[if [I] wanted](http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/rZEWx8dB-champion-concept-qm-the-shard-of-ice-age?comment=0004000000000000)". Your point (that people may do that) stands, but I maintain that more people would comment on how it is bad unless somebody else has already done so. > Well then, no one would bat an an eye, if i got into judging and giving people 1/20 to the right and the left, right? Good to know. Well, no, people would be upset with that. But as long as there was no bias-- you graded everybody equally ridiculously harshly-- then no, I imagine people wouldn't really mind that because they could logically see how you're just being very strict instead of loose-- which is a great way to help people improve. > Now, i have no desire to speak about cancer any more. I blocked this poor excuse of a person from my news feed and his mob, when they comments i don&#x27;t see them and i don&#x27;t care what they comments. Don&#x27;t defend him, don&#x27;t bring him up, he doesn&#x27;t exists to me. ... Are you referring to Echoing as *cancer*? For real? Ignoring valuable feedback and refusal to improve simply means that you're validating Echoing and others' points about you. You... do realize that, right? > _Player behavior_ board is for that kind of reviews. Riot made that board for a reason. Yeah, well, you don't post in player behavior. If I made a post there directed at you, you wouldn't read it. Plus, your behavior is directly related to your concepts. It's a tangent, it is not off topic. > Well then, you need to specify your definition of broken, because **if all of these can kill you before you can react** In my experience, they don't actually kill that quickly. >and only defense against them as ADC is {{item:3157}}, then for me they feel broken beyond redemption. I agree, that situation would be pretty terrible.
> [{quoted}](name=BestWirymNA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-19T22:34:22.013+0000) > > You asked me &quot;[if [I] wanted](http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/rZEWx8dB-champion-concept-qm-the-shard-of-ice-age?comment=0004000000000000)&quot;. Your point (that people may do that) stands, but I maintain that more people would comment on how it is bad unless somebody else has already done so. No, you are shifting from the point. If a person wants to make something to look bad, but he can't dish something, because everything is good or great, then what else that person can do? If something great, but you want to make it look bad, then what you do: try make it look by words. If you can't do that by words, then only option left is downvoting. This is why downvotes with no actual comments simply meant that concept is great. Haters can't say anything about the concept, so they go rogue. If this concept of actions is too hard for you to understand (whether you can't believe people can be genuine haters or that you believe there isn't enough haters out there), then i suggest we stop discussing this topic. > Well, no, people would be upset with that. > But as long as there was no bias-- you graded everybody equally ridiculously harshly-- then no, I imagine people wouldn&#x27;t really mind that because they could logically see how you&#x27;re just being very strict instead of loose-- which is a great way to help people improve. How many people got ~lowest possible scores in the last CCOS with as much effort put into their concept as i was? Even if you disregard the efforts, who else got ~LOWEST POSSIBLE SCORE? > ... Are you referring to Echoing as *cancer*? For real? > > Ignoring valuable feedback and refusal to improve simply means that you&#x27;re validating Echoing and others&#x27; points about you. > > You... do realize that, right? I have two things to say. 1) No, i am not refusing to improve. I refuse to to validate cancer. If a person is allowed to sabotage other people, give biased useless reviews (which might be directed only at me, but as i read through recent comments, nearly no one was happy by his poor excuse of scoring and reviews), then i simply don't want anything to do with that person. 2) If you won't stop bringing cancer back, i will stop responding. I asked you to spot mentioning him. > Yeah, well, you don&#x27;t post in player behavior. If I made a post there directed at you, you wouldn&#x27;t read it. > Plus, your behavior is directly related to your concepts. It&#x27;s a tangent, it is not off topic. > In my experience, they don&#x27;t actually kill that quickly. Then why most of them are called one-shotting-champions? Rengar, with full AD build, double Q for 3k damage with lucky crits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LE3RMkfddM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCvfve-3ANQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfpJ995AWIw > I agree, that situation would be pretty terrible. Not "would", but "is". If enemy team picks any of them (especially Zed, Fizz, Rengar) and you pick {{champion:22}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:21}} or any similar ADC with no mobility - you are screwed.
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-19T21:14:41.951+0000) > > Can i now say etc? > I meant champions, who have controversial tools. If used right, these tools are helpful. But if used wrong, these tools are harmful. You *always* could. I was just curious about who you were thinking of. > Then only answer this one question: if you wanted to make champion concept look bad, but you couldn&#x27;t construct any logical points about the concept, then what would you do? I would never do that, though. > Then go into recent CCOS post, look at the scores and then get back here. When you get back here, answer me this: do you think it was reasonable? I think so, having now read your concept and Echoing's scoresheet. > You missed the point, but alright. Nnno I don't think I did. It's a review of *you* and your habits, which is feedback for how you can improve yourself and your concepts after that. At least, with how I read it. > You mean like {{champion:238}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:107}}? ... I guess, lol, but those aren't ridiculously broken, just frustrating because of how they work
> [{quoted}](name=BestWirymNA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2016-06-19T21:47:42.578+0000) > > I would never do that, though. I asked "if". For your refusal to answer, my point stands. > I think so, having now read your concept and Echoing&#x27;s scoresheet. Well then, no one would bat an an eye, if i got into judging and giving people 1/20 to the right and the left, right? Good to know. Now, i have no desire to speak about cancer any more. I blocked this poor excuse of a person from my news feed and his mob, when they comments i don't see them and i don't care what they comments. Don't defend him, don't bring him up, he doesn't exists to me. > Nnno I don&#x27;t think I did. It&#x27;s a review of *you* and your habits, which is feedback for how you can improve yourself and your concepts after that. _Player behavior_ board is for that kind of reviews. Riot made that board for a reason. > ... I guess, lol, but those aren&#x27;t ridiculously broken, just frustrating because of how they work Well then, you need to specify your definition of broken, because if all of these can kill you before you can react and only defense against them as ADC is {{item:3157}}, then for me they feel broken beyond redemption.
: your point being?
Just showing you the picture. Thought you may like it.
: Champion concept Oberon the twilight king
Your description of the appearance feels strongly like this: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/1a/e7/e5/1ae7e54fb60ae219e9708c0cc4b6b891.jpg
: > [{quoted}](name=regonas,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-06-19T20:25:50.463+0000) > > Oh, i sorry i offend you eyes with my concepts. I will not argue with you. If &quot;eh&quot;, then &quot;eh&quot;. o3o I'm not offended though... > Jhin can die or lost kills, because he is reloading at that moment. Tahm can eat you at wrong moment and cause you both to die. I meant that. Absolutely. But I was asking more about your "Etc". You said "Tahm, Jhin, etc". Who falls into that "etc"? With Jhin, his reloads are a way to tell the player that they need to be good, and with Tahm the same. So if you miss kills because of their effects and aren't being trolled by an ally Tahm, you just need to be better at the game to make the play. > Yes, just yes. &quot;if they have something they hate then they&#x27;re going to grasp at that first&quot;, but when they simply can&#x27;t grasp anything, they will simply downvote. Which then mean my concept is so good, the only negative thing they can do is pushing a button. No. I... you're just absolutely wrong here and I don't think I can argue this point that you've steeled yourself into. > He literally got into a contest as a jugde, gave me lowest possible scores, ignored Arma&#x27;s guidelines and standards for judging, and even gloated about it. > Q: is kit works in any way? His A: there is no kit. > Q: is lore describes a character. His A: there is no lore. > Q: is champion unique? His A: there is no champion. > > Call it however you want, that is sabotage. Hmm. I'd have to read it, but it sounds like you have a case here-- I don't believe it much, but that's only because I have trust in Echoing and don't know you hardly at all. ~'w'~ > Yeah, but then again, that is not a review, especially when we are not in _Player behavior and moderation_ board, but in _concepts and creations_ board. Actually, it is. Openness of creator to review is an essential part of a concept or champion. After all, imagine if any champion that was OP was defended with some argument that was absolutely terrible and everybody knew it was, but because of that argument nothing changed. That would be terrible for the company. Absolutely terrible for players, too.
> [{quoted}](name=BestWirymNA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rZEWx8dB,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-06-19T20:38:26.136+0000) > > Absolutely. But I was asking more about your &quot;Etc&quot;. You said &quot;Tahm, Jhin, etc&quot;. Who falls into that &quot;etc&quot;? Oh, sorry. {{champion:34}} wall can block movement of allies, so it can be harmful. {{champion:432}} can stasis allies, getting them killed after it. {{champion:104}} also have reload mechanics. {{champion:59}} can imprison allies. {{champion:429}} can troll play with passive applied. {{champion:203}} can save enemies from getting killed. Can i now say etc? I meant champions, who have controversial tools. If used right, these tools are helpful. But if used wrong, these tools are harmful. > No. > I... you&#x27;re just absolutely wrong here and I don&#x27;t think I can argue this point that you&#x27;ve steeled yourself into. Then only answer this one question: if you wanted to make champion concept look bad, but you couldn't construct any logical points about the concept, then what would you do? > Hmm. I&#x27;d have to read it, but it sounds like you have a case here-- I don&#x27;t believe it much, but that&#x27;s only because I have trust in Echoing and don&#x27;t know you hardly at all. ~&#x27;w&#x27;~ Then go into recent CCOS post, look at the scores and then get back here. When you get back here, answer me this: do you think it was reasonable? > Actually, it is. Openness of creator to review is an essential part of a concept or champion. You missed the point, but alright. > After all, imagine if any champion that was OP was defended with some argument that was absolutely terrible and everybody knew it was, but because of that argument nothing changed. > That would be terrible for the company. Absolutely terrible for players, too. You mean like {{champion:238}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:104}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:107}}?
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