Shahamut (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Mihalikb,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1bZnLfVB,comment-id=00160000,timestamp=2019-09-15T16:39:06.552+0000) > > Reksai will be forever ignored for 1 or all of 3 reasons. > > 1. Reksai has no boobs. > 2. Doesn't look emo/wapanese or edge lord cool. > 3. Is not cute and fuzzy. But... but... thats Skarner... :(
Papa Stalin (EUNE)
: The Riot Games Balance team does not care about you or your feedback.
Riot just needs to stop making champions that are perfect for that the majority of the playerbase can't play. They will inevitably have to nerf them for pro (unfortunate as it is) and then we will be stuck with champs like Kalista who are never allowed to be soloq viable because pro players break her. I mean what's the point of even having these champs in the game.
: We = exteremely small vocal group There is no reason to listen to us.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=tlwjEJJv,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-24T07:17:55.155+0000) > > We = exteremely small vocal group > > There is no reason to listen to us. Alright buddy let me explain something to you. The people who would theoretically want something like eternals would be the people who are super invested in the game. This would then also mean they would be more likely to be on the forums and the subreddit. Which is the "small vocal group" you are talking about. Basically think of the people on the forums as a sample group of the target group. If the 99.9% of people who are vocal in the community don't like it guess what then a large majority of the community most likely doesn't like it. Simple as that.
: can top laners stop crying.. seriously. if all you wanna do is complain about mages and how little impact you have let me give you some options Ranged top laners that aren't teemo (he sucks) duo q with jungler/mid stop playing top play mordekaiser and profit ?!?! or since the entire playerbase seems to complain about irelia after countless straight nerfs go play her
> [{quoted}](name=LPelican ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pMJO5Lnx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-05T08:46:31.279+0000) > > can top laners stop crying.. seriously. if all you wanna do is complain about mages and how little impact you have let me give you some options > Ranged top laners that aren't teemo (he sucks) > duo q with jungler/mid > stop playing top > play mordekaiser and profit ?!?! > or since the entire playerbase seems to complain about irelia after countless straight nerfs go play her Hey dude remember when in 8. 11 they nerfed AD carries and then you could play carries that were mages, bruisers, juggernauts and so on. Remember how that got "fixed" in like 2 patches and we were back to just AD carries. Playing Gnar or Vladimir or Kennen Is completely different from playing Jax or Camille. But when bruisers don't have a keystone for 4 monts that's ok. Yeah riot couldn't give less of a shit about top lane and it's so blatant it's just not ok
: > [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dFvb09E8,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T14:08:36.600+0000) > > And her power budget is fine, from a balance perspective. Shit, she isn't even popular, because her power budget from a gameplay perspecive is a one-trick-combo, like Hecarim's. > > I'm saying Nadal doesn't really hold an advantage over others, any more than Faker holds an advantage over others. That's simply your perception, as someone who can't match their skill level. > > You act like they just naturally shit on everyone. They don't. They shit on people because they are masters of their craft, who've put in more time, practice, and effort during their careers than you can tolerate putting into dressing yourself in the morning. Your perception, not the comparison, is what's shit here. Bro, you just don't get it at all. There is nothing wrong with faker and Nadal having an advantage due to experience, skill, strength, speed or whatever metric you want to use. It's fine because these are individuals who earn their advantages through a combination of hard work and talent. Comparing faker or Nadal to a champion just doesn't make sense, because the champions are avatars being controlled by the player. Playing a certain champion should never equate to a superstar athlete playing with less talented or successful ones. All champions should have the same baseline strength in order for the game to be balanced. All you and the op are advocating is keeping diana stronger than the other champions with this tennis analogy. When i play ahri mid vs diana, it shouldn't feel like I'm Andy Roddick playing against Rafael Nadal or in league terms: ryu vs faker. Faker and Nadal earned their reputation and advantages with their own merit, but my opponent didn't earn shit just by picking diana. All I'm saying is that the op's analogy was terrible and that diana's rq combo shouldn't be left in the game because it lacks counter-play. Also, im done responding to you, because all you're doing is calling me shit and making assumptions about my skill or intelligence. I get way more creative insults in the normal que games i play nowadays, so you're kind of boring me.
> [{quoted}](name=Shadowkhan,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dFvb09E8,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-18T14:28:18.687+0000) > > Bro, you just don't get it at all. There is nothing wrong with faker and Nadal having an advantage due to experience, skill, strength, speed or whatever metric you want to use. It's fine because these are individuals who earn their advantages through a combination of hard work and talent. > > Comparing faker or Nadal to a champion just doesn't make sense, because the champions are avatars being controlled by the player. Playing a certain champion should never equate to a superstar athlete playing with less talented or successful ones. All champions should have the same baseline strength in order for the game to be balanced. All you and the op are advocating is keeping diana stronger than the other champions with this tennis analogy. When i play ahri mid vs diana, it shouldn't feel like I'm Andy Roddick playing against Rafael Nadal or in league terms: ryu vs faker. Faker and Nadal earned their reputation and advantages with their own merit, but my opponent didn't earn shit just by picking diana. > > All I'm saying is that the op's analogy was terrible and that diana's rq combo shouldn't be left in the game because it lacks counter-play. Also, im done responding to you, because all you're doing is calling me shit and making assumptions about my skill or intelligence. I get way more creative insults in the normal que games i play nowadays, so you're kind of boring me. So what you are saying is remove a difficult mechanic to pull off that made the champion playable in high elo because it lacks counterplay (by the way you can always dodge the q) because it lacks counterplay. Ok then tell me why are there point and click abilities/abilities that you gotta try to miss to actually miss them like malphite r or pantheon w that will more often than not result in you dying. So why can't Diana have a combo that you gotta practice on your own that is extremely punishing if you fuck it up that allows her to one shot her target aka an assassin's only job. The "it lacks counterplay argument " is completely [removed by moderation] because there are much much worse offenders in the game.
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Murr Wurr (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QKfs4N4b,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-02T18:11:17.634+0000) > > He was a stronger jungler than they expected and made the mistake of thinking they could balance him for both roles rather than axing his jungle right away. By the time they realized there was no way to keep him balanced for both he had already been skewed so heavily towards the jungle it was too late to go back. I just don't understand why they didn't make the changes I suggested in my post or something like that because I don't think it was too late in fact I still think it isn't too late.
> [{quoted}](name=Murr Wurr,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=QKfs4N4b,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-02T18:15:20.008+0000) > > I just don't understand why they didn't make the changes I suggested in my post or something like that because I don't think it was too late in fact I still think it isn't too late. Even if the changes you proposed would have gone through then he would the best wave clear in the game. Remember Graves jungle one shotting people with a single auto attack and old dark harvest. Making that hit multiple people on a higher range than it is currently would be game breaking because you could delete multiple people as a relatively tanky adc with either 1 auto+r or 2 autos. As an adc he would still want to get in your face because of his passive that makes him unique meaning he would either have to have stupidly low damages or a single target auto attack, killing the thing that makes him unique. And as a top lane main man I would love to have Shyvana, Vi, Yi, Xin, Kayn and Gragas be balanced around top lane again, but they will probably never be balanced around the lane again, because that would make their jungle (their best roles) be broken beyond belief. Please think about what your suggestions would do to the game if they were implemented in the future.
: Why does riot rework champs if they are going to make them feel entirely different to play
Since you left Irelia out I feel like someone should point out the differences. As someone who had the old irelia as my most played champion for the longest time, I'm gonna be honest and just tell you that they took old Irelia, left the q, which was the most fun aspect of her, and then just took Diana's moonlight mechanic and just slapped it on the kit, removing the other fun aspect (at least for me) of being able to turn fights around with the old e and just bursting someone down out of nowhere. The new irelia is still somewhat similar to play for the most part, but basically invalidates Diana as a champ since Diana is currently a worse Irelia therefore making the new Irelia a bad rework in my opinion. She is still fun if you enjoyed the old kit but it just feels a little different, like she lost something
Dedenne (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=dracocrash,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EXvLPOEc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-12T22:00:30.014+0000) > > Lol, I feel bad for nidalee mains. Imagine maining a mid laner, that riot buffs into an overbearing jungler. And instead of doing a full/partial revert of the original changes that made nidalee jungle broken; they start nerfing other aspects of a kit so that lane nidalee is no longer viable and only jungle nidalee is viable. Then they FINNALY go ahead and nerf the changes they made to make jungle nidalee too strong and now shes a champion that is gutted in both jungle and lane. > I have no idea how a professional game company can get away with this kind of conduct, but maybe it's time people banded together and stopped buying skins untill riot is willing to be more transperent with its playerbase... Cough taliyah cough (ik she is starting to dominate mid again but still, they gutted her mid and then jungle)
Cough Camille, Vi, Shyvana Cough(btw I know these champs aren't necessarily designed as top laners aside from Camille but they used to be played top but now they exist almost solely in the jungle where some of them are super cancer (Camille))
: I have to commend Riot making the keystones more mage friendly
Dude are you high? Like you could use Aftershock spellbook even glacial augment was played on mages at one point. You could use predator on stuff like Annie that needs to get in close to do damage. Mage junglers could use the old dark harvest to about the same results as electrocute. Mages could use more than half the keystones. Compared to that bruisers didn't have a keystone for 4 months and were stuck trying to use spellbook and klepto to varying success. The difference isn't even funny
: Cho'Gath: Why is he important, and how can we make him matter?
Like honestly they should give him like a sion level rework in my opinion. The gameplay of turn on righteous glory, turn on stoneplate and r the enemy carry for 2k true damage as a 12k wall is just unfun. His lore is older than most of the champion roster at this point and needs to be completely remade in my opinion.
: The sharp spike in getting autofilled JG should be a wakeup call to Riot
I don't really play Jungle all that often but as someone who plays primarily top lane I hate the fact that the enemy jungler can just camp a lane(most often bot or top in my experience). Also often enough junglers tend to break my freezes or just soak up unnecessary exp setting me behind, would agree that junglers should focus more on farming and less on nonstop ganks as it feels as if I or my opponent didn't win the lane and instead the junglers did.
: > [{quoted}](name=MankeyMadness,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6e7HX2os,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-03-25T00:45:42.410+0000) > > Maybe because top laners like to be loud obnoxious babies who HAVE to be the most cancerous person in the game at all times both champions and behavior wise. > > As a jungle main, I'd love to see a LoL with all top lane champions removed completely and make more room for junglers to play in. {{champion:266}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:31}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:120}} {{champion:74}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:59}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:126}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:516}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:27}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:6}} Find one of these that's fun to play against as much as play AS. Hint: None.
First things first, a good chunk of these champs are mainly/about as much played in the jungle (Camille, Gragas, Hecarim, J4), mid lane(Aatrox, Cassiopeia, Irelia, Jayce, Lissandra), adc(Heimerdinger, Quinn) and support (Nautilus, Tahm Kench), so like half the campions aren't exclusive to top lane, plus most of the melee damage dealers have the simple counterplay of stay the fuck away from them and kite them, or are squishy enough so that if you land 1 cc ability they will take enough damage to the point they will need to back out and not be able to engage, you are silver for a reason and it's quite apparent since you are crying about Hecarim top lane witch hasn't been relevant in years also out of all the champions you listed Lissandra and Cassiopeia will shit on everyone else in lane with the exception of Riven if she is good, and would you look at that they are both ranged champions who are balanced around mid lane, but get a free lane top lane just off of how broken they are, and champions like these are the actual problem.

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