: After digging more into new Aatrox trying to be unbiased, i feel like i made a big mistake
: Aatrox's E needs a massive change
That is the point. Almost most of his kit is riven. NOTHING NEW OR UNIQUE.
: Why Many Aatrox Mains are Dissatisfied with His New Rework
1.No deny his kit was outdated, i welcome all changes that are UNIQUE. Aatrox players were complete opposite of what riven players were and now they most of them will migrate on Aatrox, because now their kits are almost the same. Q same, W different, E same just shorter, Same AD steroids with MS. So this is the first part where they failed. 2. His old lore ( the one on release ) was the best, it had to be expanded not destroyed. A mystic figure who spreads chaos. He could have become chaos incarnate or his race could have been galactus type race. They invade the planets spread their psychologies energy: Aatrox - War/Chaos, Rhaast - Hatred/Destruction, Varus (old one) - Vengeance/Corruption and etc. New one is a shuriman ascended who was prisoned in a sword. He is not a god now, as ascended are hardly demi-gods.(they are tho) Yet another fail. 3. His visuals. Old Aatrox was kinda anorexic for a God of War, the one who fought vs armies. New model is buffed and looks good, BUT textures are bad. New Aatrox dark part/scales look like a plastic. If you look on his old arm it had some red touches on in. Felt like organic and alive. Compare their chest area, where old had this volcanic typa thing, heart is burning there, new one it is a glowish red reminding that there is a heart that beats at the same time with sword. New wings are horrible. Need more work on that. 4. His voice. I do not know what to say. Community specifically mentioned to save voice actors. This is the one thing you just fucked up really hard. You can add new quotes where he is angry on zoe, but not change the whole voice. Why can he be calm and then shout on zoe. Won't it intensify the hatred part more? The most calm champion just shout at a child, wow he really must be upset.(that is considering new lore, which bad compared to old one imo) If you do not listen to community what is the point of all the board sections with chats about champion, you visiting champion reddits. I start to believe that you think that community owes you or something. NO, you owe us. We made you what we are so LISTEN TO US!
: Consider to save the old play style of Aatrox? ( since its win rate and pick rate is really healthy)
With it they should also save his voice and lore (where he was a mystical figure changing tides of battle)
Rioter Comments
: Universal Board Rules Update
You are wrong. Community is privilege, you forums are right. We say fetch, you do, if not you are not working up to money you get from us. That does not mean i support toxicity, but the way you speak is inexcusable, i;d rather hear in game someone tel me fuck you than some kid tell me what is my right and what is not.
: Something that always makes me die a little inside
Well you can wait until he will be reworked and will turn into a clown, completely different character with only few resemblance to his old self. JUST LIKE NEW AATROX...
: Why does rework Aatrox lack more detail then pre-rework + voice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_R6oieeXb8&ab_channel=SomaCruz This is voice of a god, not something that will be updated...
: A Former Aatrox Main's Eulogy for the Conceptual Destruction Resulting From the Aatrox Update
I do not mind gameplay update or visuals, but if they touch lore and personality that is where i draw the line. You can not just kill a champion and replace him with a new one. Oh shit let me just completely change my personality to a selfish douche in a matter of a second. Fuck that. His horns look great now, sword is really good, wings need a better job done, but voice and lore is just total fail, like a 16 years old puberty hitting kids was assigned to choose what type of character he should be.
Bazerka (NA)
: Thanks :), as you would imagine we get feedback across the spectrum so many times it requires some zooming out to look at it all in aggregate. Appreciate the kind words though, I'm pretty hype for Aatrox as well.
Oh well people are not, you just murdered him and gave his name to someone else, who looks like him from a distance. People asked you not to touch his lore and personality. Like how you guys failed? There was 1 job visual and gameplay update.
Reav3 (NA)
: Yes, of course!
What have you done? You saw how everyone asked not to change personality/voice/character. Maybe you can't read? How you finished school that way?
: Aatrox, an excue to make a new champion with flashy moves
What ever you named them i double that. They deserve it. If they do not listen to polite asking, maybe insult will shake em up a bit.
mack9112 (NA)
: But what if a bunch of the community likes the new aatrox myself included ? Aatrox was a champion I found to be very boring and one dimensional now they have given him an opportunity to be so much more :) just my opinion
No one blames the visuals, i bet even gameplay they will accept, but the personality and voice. This is something they should not touch. If in an instant yasuo becomes trickster like zoe that would make no sense. From a calm/calculated/merciless god of war he turned every generic brute that is eager to kill something. You might as well call him Rhaast 2.
: The absolute worst thing about New Aatrox is that Riot will not listen to the Community
THIS! THIS GOLD WAS LOST FOREVER! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_R6oieeXb8&ab_channel=SomaCruz How dare you riot! Your players are what you are now thanks to your players you fools! Aatrox players (and not only them) specifically mentioned not to touch voice actor/voice. WHY YOU DO NOT LISTEN! I have to say this, Riot you are fucking retards. You have 1 job, that you get payed for and you fail to do it.
ZaNJeTsU (EUW)
: Who is the one responsible for Reworked Justicar Aatrox skin
Thank you! Same thought, have not played for a looong time, see aatrox rework and get disappointed. Guess game will still remain uninstalled untill some changes will be made.
SSmotzer (NA)
: Yes, he became "just a warrior"... the same way the archangel Gabriel is "just a warrior." They changed the Darkin to be more arrogant, like the fallen angels of the Bible. They are literally the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse afterall, and their visuals are based on the Devilman anime, which is the most anime version of the Bible ever.
This new lore is not a continuity. Yes he is a devil warrior, not a god that he used to be in old lore. No clue what is that anime and do not complain about model, but recall before was different on base and justicar and now they have to be different also. Voice chagnged to arrogant, like wtf? He was a brutal calm killer of armies not a second rhaast. That is why people played him, they said they will not touch his personality, what he was. In the end lore changed, voice changed bad way, only improvement is model and what i saw from vids and read comments of those who played that he has some issues with animations (but i only care about lore and personality, not gameplay)
: Aatrox VGU fundamentally changes what kind of champion he is
I am fine and welcome with any gameplay changes that will make him strong, but when they NERFED him innLORE and RUINED his VOICE! That is where i draw the line.
: Why does rework Aatrox lack more detail then pre-rework + voice
Voice and lore garbage needs to be redone that fits more to a GOD OF WAR, not a vengeful sword.
Rioter Comments
: If this is the new incoming Varus skin...
His model is awful. He has anorexia...There are attempts of muscle, but model is god awful, just like the lore. Not worth much, i would price it 550RP for textures and theme, 0 for modeling.
: Look. If you want to switch to Fortnite, just go.
Or to dota 2 like me. Also warframe from time to time :D
: I'm playing in EUW, mostly aram or ranked from gold to plat and I dont really find a lot of toxic behaviour as long as you do not enable them. Most people are only toxic because they (wrongly) retaliate.
That is not complete true :P When i play ranked, there some guy that will always flame, like bonkers flame that involves parents and stuff.
: Nautilus lore - what's most important to you?
Mystery. The one you ruined for Aatrox. Morons. From the biggest mystery of whole League into a toothpick.
: Weekly Reminder that Kindred should still get the mark from the monster if they get a takedown on it
: How Non-Furries see Furries
Ahh skyrim... Guess i'll go play some Nord with 2H.
GripaAviara (EUNE)
: Vayne and kog are special anti tank ADCs. Ofc they melt tanks.
That is true what about tristana? And not like she had Botrk or something. Also read what i wrote first. Game has tons of % max. health damage. If there will be tank every game, what is the point of taking anything else but, varus/vayne/kogmaw.(they melt not only tank tho :P)
GripaAviara (EUNE)
: I know he can be kited, I'm not saying it's broken, I just saying they don't feel like useless paper clips late game.
I have seen vayne/kog/varus/tristana all melt garen in second when his W was not up. And it's duration often was not enough to save him.
: When adc lives with 10 and types "IM A GOD" , " OMG 1 v 9 EZ"
YES! YES! I fcking love playing with my premade friend and when he lives after all that saying "All me" xD
GripaAviara (EUNE)
: I don't know what are you talking about. Lets take Garen or Cho. If they are 3 tank items + 2 fighter/ap items it takes me 1v1 as a full build ADC about 10 sec to kill them. That's a lot. Meanwhile if they get near me i'm dead
Garen is Juggernaut, they all have way of sustaining in fight. W gives damage reduction, tenacity if timed right, but he can be kited easily, if he goes full damage with only BC i doubt he can kill you extremely fast with your support on your side. About Cho you are right he is listed as a unique for a reason. I do not like him stacking HP and oneshoting my ADC. I agree on that one. He stacks most efficient stat for tanks and deals damage (guess what damage? %max. health and true)
: @Riot: there is too much damage in the game and causing too much problems
People hate and say tanks are op, but tanks stats are obsolete late game. They melt like ice cream late game. Unless those tanks are obviously broken. (hello ornn,prenerf) I am not totally sure why, but biggest reason imo is because there to much fcking % max. health damage. Also another reason is because 2 items completely reduces cost effectiveness of all def. stats buy 40% ---> {{item:3036}} {{item:3135}}. I wrote about tanks, because damage outscale defense.
DT RAW (NA)
: Please explain to me how you guys mentioned kassadin as being weak after the minion aggro change and that he would likely need buffs after, and you guys have since completely abandoned him. Srsly why is he not being looked at??
I do not play kass, but seen few kassadins in my team become a beast late game, after being useless (not entirely) for good 20 mins :P So really hesitate to agree if he does need a buff.
FoxMulder7 (EUNE)
: Are you guys planning on buffing or changing something with Syndra? She's so bad right now, 47% win rate and all the pros stopped playing her almost entirely.
You are a syndra player right? What do you build on her rn?Tear+ROA? I mean morello was core before and i was a bit confused what to build first ludens or tear :P
: is this some sort of joke or am i smart enough not to laugh?
> [{quoted}](name=zacktootall,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0k46X4Zr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-22T04:34:27.898+0000) > > is this some sort of joke or am i smart enough not to laugh? This is religion jokes :P If you are not familiar with religion stuff, might miss the joke :P
: Waveclear work for 8.6 or later
You are a joke right now Riot "Balance Team". NO! Not even a joke, a meme.
: Download the 3 minigames we made in 48 hours, with your input! (Team Jam Packed - Thunderdome XI)
ASFASFAFLAKHfk;HgoieshgiuHGHEOGIHJGJE;PGH HOW COULD PENTKILL LOSE :({{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}} {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}}
: What I expect from the Irelia rework
LOL You just made this generic youtube video :D
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: March 16
It is not _**Celerity**_ that is strong, it is other choices that are weak. Like Absolute focus? Who will use that, most of the game you are fighting a team fight and it becomes useless? Transcendence, when there are so many CDR items, no one would stack CDR to get 2AP per 1% CDR :\ _**What left?**_
: A goodbye letter
Wait, was not that you who announced news about skin/loot stuff? Is that the reason they are firing you? :D
Chermorg (NA)
: Assuming the victim here muted them (as they should if they are being affected by the bully), every time you sent a message "defending" them, you just reminded them they were being flamed. The "defense" in League is **only** the mute button - there is no need for you to do anything other than encourage them to mute the bully and then mute them yourself. You decided to take it into your own hands and harass the other player by repeatedly goading them for their bullying. You furthermore reminded everyone who had muted the bully that the bully was still doing it - you became the mouthpiece for the bully.
> [{quoted}](name=Chermorg,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ExygQgiE,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-03-12T18:19:22.821+0000) > > Assuming the victim here muted them (as they should if they are being affected by the bully), every time you sent a message "defending" them, you just reminded them they were being flamed. > > The "defense" in League is **only** the mute button - there is no need for you to do anything other than encourage them to mute the bully and then mute them yourself. You decided to take it into your own hands and harass the other player by repeatedly goading them for their bullying. You furthermore reminded everyone who had muted the bully that the bully was still doing it - you became the mouthpiece for the bully. You like getting downvoted don't ya :D
Rioter Comments
: The reason for that is that AD is the intended stat to take down tanks, whereas AP is largely used as a burst stat. There are a few outliers of course, like Cass and Ryze, but they are the exception, not the rule. This means that your health plays double duty as defense against AP, as it's just dropped as a lump sum with cooldowns.
> [{quoted}](name=The Wolf King,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JwnzEw0w,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-12T17:49:46.985+0000) > > The reason for that is that AD is the intended stat to take down tanks, whereas AP is largely used as a burst stat. There are a few outliers of course, like Cass and Ryze, but they are the exception, not the rule. This means that your health plays double duty as defense against AP, as it's just dropped as a lump sum with cooldowns. Oh you silly... Zed, Talon, Kayn. Ever heard of those? Burst for AP? Karthus?Anivia?Fiddlesticks?Malzahar? Oh ye they are famous for their burst.
: Is last whisper even an essential item against tanks?
Tanks are shreded by ADCs to easy, check this comparison. In Dota 2 when you buy armor item it provides offensive tools at the same time: - Shiva's guard (When activated slows and deal damage - Assault Cuirass (AS bonus, Armor reduction around those who wear) Value of those defence stats on items are not high so to counter specific damage you have to stack/invest in it and be weak against another. And sometime after 1 defence item thet invest gold into health and utility item, like drums. While in league tanks stacks tons of mr and armor on top of that having sht tons of health (4k) with build in high base damage and survive ability tools (like ornn w, mao passive, shen passive and w etc. etc.) To kill a tank in dota team have to put effort together to kill him, buyi g damage amplificators and defence reduction. What we have in league? 1 champion buys 1 item and halfs the efficiency of all specefic defensive type stats with another item like liandry which is not only good va tanks, but amplofies all damage to everyone. What do tanks rely on after that? They get shredded. That is why most league tank items make them tankier in different ways. For example adaptive helmet, reducec all magic damage from same source or frozen heart that reduces AS, Randuib redices crit damage and slows. Why i compared to dota? Because i like how adaptive builds and gameplays can be. You are not forced every game buy Randuin or adaptive. And that is why LW and void give so much shred. But currently damage is valued more than defense stats as you can shred them, but not reduce the AD. When team fight goes no o e shields a tank, they donit on ADC, when tank consumes damage braum stays with AD and not shields tank. I know i know wall text, but what i ment with this is that tanks are extremely linear because of reasons i mentioned on top and ADC have to much strength, not carries, but ADCs. Also just have to say that i hate those stacking champions, say whatever you won't, but they are so stressful tobplay against. They go to mechanic stack damage with skill and build tank items.
: C9 Sneaky Dark Lux Cosplay
His sister got trauma after walking into his room...
: to be fair if anyone plays a game for a living everyday then they will probably get tired of it.
> [{quoted}](name=r4ndomkill,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=iqGjGa3R,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-03-12T22:36:13.134+0000) > > to be fair if anyone plays a game for a living everyday then they will probably get tired of it. Dendi plays Dota and Dota 2 for living and is the most iconic and active. XBOCT and Puppey too play a lot (since 2008 in pro scene if not mistaken) and yet satisfied.
: Even every streamer I watch is hating on league really bad.
I am playing dota 2 right now. Enjoying Bounty Hunter as a roaming support so much. All those rotations around map, fights for early runes and etc. Name Neron come join :)
MrHaZeYo (NA)
: I mean most mages can out burst a auto pretty easily. Then you have someone like Cass and Ryze who can chain gun you down lol.
> [{quoted}](name=MrHaZeYo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=K7ThGIQo,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-12T06:44:36.752+0000) > > I mean most mages can out burst a auto pretty easily. Then you have someone like Cass and Ryze who can chain gun you down lol. Ryze has to land his skill shot to deal damage :P It can not go through minions like AA
: Ingenious Hunter is Incredibly Underrated
I take it on almost all supports :D Especially on ARAM where getting kill/assist is extremely easy :P
SnorLux (NA)
: We welcomed a new summoner to our family this weekend. Solari Jade, 7lbs 2oz! Support maybe?
You want a child to ruin hours of life like you? :D Be honest...
: Volibear is Just an Overweight Warwick, hear me out.
: THE POWER OF CHRIST COMPELS YOU
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