: I like Zed and Azir's Current Spots.
Azir haters upvotes this troll {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Boards very absurd and Riot believes them.
: > [{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cteXAjva,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T09:30:39.193+0000) > > But Assassins, Lissandra and Tf destroy Azir. > > So Azir needs buffs. You mean champions that have CC such as slows and stuns destroy him easily? Since everyone knows that once you get close to Azir at all he's done for? Well who knew?
> [{quoted}](name=Furor Nexis,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cteXAjva,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T09:40:57.579+0000) > > You mean champions that have CC such as slows and stuns destroy him easily? Since everyone knows that once you get close to Azir at all he's done for? Well who knew? As a result you know Azir's counterplay. You accepted Azir's counterplay and high range champions.
: Boards are funny....according to them Azir with a 41% is in a good spot and when Ahri and Lux were rocking 55% winrates with 20% pickrates they were also "fine". Time to give the low elo kids their own forum.
> [{quoted}](name=Buff Jax please,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cteXAjva,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-07-23T09:37:10.442+0000) > > Boards are funny....according to them Azir with a 41% is in a good spot and when Ahri and Lux were rocking 55% winrates with 20% pickrates they were also "fine". > > Time to give the low elo kids their own forum. Meddler are still waiting.What for? Meddler what is your target? Riot loves their special champions. Azir is garbage right now. Azir isn't rewarding and Azir mains win rate is only 45%. Is it unacceptable? No. Difficult champion but he isn't rewarding meanwhile 0 skill champions are very rewarding.
: I like Zed and Azir's Current Spots.
No argument only Azir hate. Because big troll! Look this trolls profile. He is Rengar main so he hates Azir. Stay Azir hater.
: > [{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cteXAjva,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-07-23T09:18:52.557+0000) > > Azir is garbage because nerfs.They weren't knowing before nerfs? > > Bad argument.Win rate doesn't mean counter.Azir's win rate is very bad against all champions.He hasn't good matchup so Azir is weak. > > You're a joke. No, I just don't play champs that can easily get snared and zoned out by Azir. I play Varus or Jhin every damn time into Azir since their damage output is a safe bet for smashing him completely. I stay safe.
> [{quoted}](name=Furor Nexis,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cteXAjva,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T09:27:44.562+0000) > > No, I just don't play champs that can easily get snared and zoned out by Azir. I play Varus or Jhin every damn time into Azir since their damage output is a safe bet for smashing him completely. I stay safe. But Assassins, Lissandra and Tf destroy Azir. So Azir needs buffs.
: I like Zed and Azir's Current Spots.
The biggest troll on Boards. Some people said me ''You're troll etc'' but you see this troll.
Volcanuz (OCE)
: But Azir isn't weak... He is far from weak. His just very reliant on CS and kills early to get his spike fast. He can still 1v1 most if not all mages, the only time i see him struggle is against a powerful burst mage or when he is too passive. Either you poke with him, or play defensive. You can't just do none of those.
> [{quoted}](name=Volcanuz,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cteXAjva,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T09:20:21.727+0000) > > But Azir isn't weak... He is far from weak. > > His just very reliant on CS and kills early to get his spike fast. He can still 1v1 most if not all mages, the only time i see him struggle is against a powerful burst mage or when he is too passive. > > Either you poke with him, or play defensive. You can't just do none of those. All champions will roam, Azir will stay safe and he will make CS.Where is teamplay? Really? Azir is pretty weak.He needs reverting of last nerfs. Azir is pretty garbage while there Cassio. Why should I play Azir? Cassio win rate is 50%. Azir mains win rate 45%. Hahahahahaha.
: Report someone for picking Azir lmaoo. What elo are you, then? Don't make me laugh too hard here.
> [{quoted}](name=Paliubashas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T09:14:30.185+0000) > > Report someone for picking Azir lmaoo. > > What elo are you, then? Don't make me laugh too hard here. 10 Azir games 40% win rate.Ok liar! Meanwhile Azir's win rate is 40%. Average player. Meanwhile you forgot.Individual win rate isn't indicator. You still didn't learn.Shame! You find new lies.
: lee sin was a pick ban in the lcs for 4 seasons and half
You don't teach Azir to me.I know Azir's weaknesses, his counterplays, almost everything.
: > High range champions like Vel'koz, Xerath, Lux, Varus. This is not counterplay. Those are counterpicks. They aren't even half as bad as counterpicks other champions get, and obviously you won't get 5 artilleries in a team. Azir will still make sure 4 players on enemy team are not playing League of Legends. > Assassins like Ahri, Lb, Talon, Zed. And those don't even work. As far as mages go Azir is one of the most difficult to assassinate. > Twisted Fate, Lissandra early game pressure and roam.Azir can not easily roam. Azir can take all routes Liss can, and some routes she can't go. On top of that, he is one of biggest turret threats among midlaners, so roaming against him is usually a bad idea in a first place. Sure, some players do it, but mostly because there's nothing they can ever achieve by staying in lane with him.
> [{quoted}](name=BigBadBadger,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7WnEzV0R,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T09:03:24.256+0000) > > This is not counterplay. Those are counterpicks. They aren't even half as bad as counterpicks other champions get, and obviously you won't get 5 artilleries in a team. Azir will still make sure 4 players on enemy team are not playing League of Legends. > > And those don't even work. As far as mages go Azir is one of the most difficult to assassinate. > > Azir can take all routes Liss can, and some routes she can't go. On top of that, he is one of biggest turret threats among midlaners, so roaming against him is usually a bad idea in a first place. High range champions are counterplay.Moreover Vel'koz is the best counterpick for Azir.You don't know counterplay against Azir, Azir can do your sentence. Assassins work against Azir.You don't know counterplay. You follow Azir's cds and his skills.You should do all in after he used his Q skill.Azir is vulnerable after his Q skill. Azir's early game is so weak and he can not push minion wave.Lissandra can roam easily.Roaming is good idea against Azir.Azir needs Rylai and three items at least.Moreover Lissandra can take TP but Azir? He must got cleanse.Azir can not get Tp or Ignite.Azir gets cleanse against Lissandra or TF. But Tf's ult, Lissandra's Teleport is enough for roaming.
: Weren't you the guy who was HEAVILY against Lux?
> [{quoted}](name=Bard to Master,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=cteXAjva,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-07-23T09:00:47.917+0000) > > Weren't you the guy who was HEAVILY against Lux? I don't like op champions or weak champions.My problem is this. I protect weak champions and I examine op champions. Lux was op erstwhile. I'm not champion hater.I defend weak and underdog champions.
: I did show my last Azir games, could you not see that? I congratulate you on being able to be speak the English of a 6 year old, I really do! You must be a troll to talk like that!
> [{quoted}](name=Paliubashas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:52:02.885+0000) > > I did show my last Azir games, could you not see that? > > I congratulate you on being able to be speak the English of a 6 year old, I really do! > > You must be a troll to talk like that! You didn't show because Azir is weak so you're liar so you will stay liar. Not hard.You could show your profile but I'm Azir hater and I will not show my profile.Because people know Azir is weak.
: https://i.gyazo.com/5c9eef0e2def293385039705be9673dd.png 70k+ mastery points on Azir {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Paliubashas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:49:26.522+0000) > > https://i.gyazo.com/5c9eef0e2def293385039705be9673dd.png 70k+ mastery points on Azir {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} But I don't show my profile! I don't show my last Azir games. I'm Azir hater.
: I like Zed and Azir's Current Spots.
Stay with your Azir hate and your lies.
: Yes, I have lag issues right now on EUW severs because I moved to north america, so I have had bad last few games :] 200 ms constant is very unforgiving
> [{quoted}](name=Paliubashas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:48:09.572+0000) > > Yes, I have lag issues right now on EUW severs because I moved to north america, so I have had bad last few games :] 200 ms constant is very unforgiving Ok ok.Troll!
: It's on my North America account, this is my EUW one, buddy :D Stop arguing, really being pointless and bringing toxicity to my thread and the boards about my opinions on 2 champions {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=Paliubashas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:46:52.355+0000) > > It's on my North America account, this is my EUW one, buddy :D > > Stop arguing, really being pointless and bringing toxicity to my thread and the boards about my opinions on 2 champions > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Nice Azir hater.You can continue crying.Azir is garbage you know. You can continue denying. You can not even send your profile. Probably old stats. Stay troll!
: I showed screenshot proof :P all I needed to do.
> [{quoted}](name=Paliubashas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=0002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:44:58.781+0000) > > I showed screenshot proof :P all I needed to do. Hahahahaha.Ok. You enjoy with your lies Azir hater. Maybe Season 5 stat? Where will I know? But I'm looking your profile. Last Azir game; 4 7 0 http://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Paliubashas Azir hater again.Noooooooooooo!
: https://i.gyazo.com/822301381af07a6349fbf3195813f3ae.png Last played one day ago. :D And it seems you forgot this thread is titled, "**_I_** like Zed and Azir's Current Spots"
> [{quoted}](name=Paliubashas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:42:04.973+0000) > > https://i.gyazo.com/822301381af07a6349fbf3195813f3ae.png Last played one day ago. :D You can not send your profile.Ok.I'm looking your profile. 10 Azir games. 40% win rate Bad lie.
: "Azir Hater" plays Azir. https://i.gyazo.com/0643aa400209b6e33d05cdb8ec28b294.png
> [{quoted}](name=Paliubashas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:35:46.751+0000) > > "Azir Hater" plays Azir. > > https://i.gyazo.com/0643aa400209b6e33d05cdb8ec28b294.png Send your profile.When did play Azir? I will look. Meanwhile you forgot.Individual win rate isn't indicator. You still didn't learn.Shame!
Rioter Comments
: Troll post lmao. Azir has a 41% winrate. "He is in a great spot" Yeah.
> [{quoted}](name=Buff Jax please,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:28:04.108+0000) > > Troll post lmao. > > Azir has a 41% winrate. "He is in a great spot" Yeah. You're right.Briefly Azir haters. You know boards hate. They hate Zed, Yasuo, Azir, Fizz, Ryze.
: You can still play the game against Lee. It's not like he takes all of your farm and makes it so you can never do anything at all like Azir does. Both Azir and Lee have constant pressure on you but Azir's is oppressive and has no counterplay when he's strong. I'm not saying Lee was a problem I'm just saying Azir is far, far worse.
> [{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7WnEzV0R,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:28:25.242+0000) > > You can still play the game against Lee. It's not like he takes all of your farm and makes it so you can never do anything at all like Azir does. Both Azir and Lee have constant pressure on you but Azir's is oppressive and has no counterplay when he's strong. I'm not saying Lee was a problem I'm just saying Azir is far, far worse. Did you learn counterplay?
: You can still play the game against Lee. It's not like he takes all of your farm and makes it so you can never do anything at all like Azir does. Both Azir and Lee have constant pressure on you but Azir's is oppressive and has no counterplay when he's strong. I'm not saying Lee was a problem I'm just saying Azir is far, far worse.
> [{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7WnEzV0R,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:28:25.242+0000) > > You can still play the game against Lee. It's not like he takes all of your farm and makes it so you can never do anything at all like Azir does. Both Azir and Lee have constant pressure on you but Azir's is oppressive and has no counterplay when he's strong. I'm not saying Lee was a problem I'm just saying Azir is far, far worse. I'm tired your oppressive excuses.Your only excuse.Oppressive and has no counterplay? Do you know counterplay? No. You don't know counterplay.Azir has tons of counterplay. I'm explaining counterplay. High range champions like Vel'koz, Xerath, Lux, Varus. Assassins like Ahri, Lb, Talon, Zed. Twisted Fate, Lissandra early game pressure and roam.Azir can not easily roam.
: I never said it was Azir meta right now. When he is strong that's basically what it turns into because nobody else can match his laning phase when he's powerful.
> [{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7WnEzV0R,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:26:22.232+0000) > > I never said it was Azir meta right now. When he is strong that's basically what it turns into because nobody else can match his laning phase when he's powerful. Really? Varus, Viktor, Ryze, Lb, Zed, Karma, Lissandra? You aren't playing this game I'm sure.
: Pretty much. Neither are weak, neither need buffs, etc. They're fine now, and I enjoy both of them and dont mind playing against either.
> [{quoted}](name=Paliubashas,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kG3Ktr29,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:23:21.509+0000) > > Pretty much. Neither are weak, neither need buffs, etc. > > They're fine now, and I enjoy both of them and dont mind playing against either. Azir is so weak and needs buffs.Azir mains win rate is 45%. Azir's diamond elo win rate is 40%. Azir's overall win rate is 40%. Enough for you. You don't see excuses.Azir is hard champion, high skill cap etc. Cass same too but Cassio's win rate is 50%. Yasuo high skill champion but Yasuo's win rate is 50%. Orianna 48% Nidalee 47% Syndra 48%
: lol why nerf sivir ashe,jihn and cait are way more ridicolous
> [{quoted}](name=Urgot doggy dogg,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7WnEzV0R,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:23:43.106+0000) > > lol why nerf sivir ashe,jihn and cait are way more ridicolous Because same champions every game.Especially Sivir and Ashe.
: lee sin was a pick ban in the lcs for 4 seasons and half
They are Azir hater.They are liar.They don't see Cass, Vlad, Viktor, Ryze, TF, Varus, Lissandra, Ryze, Karma. You can see other champions for Worlds but you can not see Azir and his counters.
: At least you can still play the game against Lee. Azir makes it so you can't do anything except try to cs under tower while avoiding his soldiers. Even when Lee was pick ban after the Lee, Elise, Vi phase there were a decent amount of champions that could still be played in the jungle. Azir turns it into Azir vs whoever goes even with Azir meta
> [{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7WnEzV0R,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-07-23T08:20:40.481+0000) > > At least you can still play the game against Lee. Azir makes it so you can't do anything except try to cs under tower while avoiding his soldiers. Even when Lee was pick ban after the Lee, Elise, Vi phase there were a decent amount of champions that could still be played in the jungle. Azir turns it into Azir vs whoever goes even with Azir meta Viktor, Cass, Varus, Liss, Karma, TF, Ryze, Vlad with Azir meta. Not only Azir.You're hypocrite. Meanwhile we see Sivir, Jhin and Ashe every game.Nice adc meta. Only 3 strong adcs.Nice adc diversity.Nice meta!
: lee sin was a pick ban in the lcs for 4 seasons and half
I'm saying.Riot hates Azir.They don't like Azir and his main players. They nerf Azir according to Bjergsen or Faker.Ridiculous. Meanwhile do you know Bard's ban rate at EU LCS? 35% ban rate. Riot where is Bard nerf? Sivir every game Riot where is Sivir nerf?
: I like Zed and Azir's Current Spots.
Zed is weak Azir is garbage.They are weak champions. Boards Azir, Zed, Fizz, Yasuo, Ryze haters. I don't like.Both need buffs. Azir mains win rate 45% and you're saying Azir is good? Bad ideas and arguments.
: LUX BUFF
No.She already got buff.Her win rate is 51%.
: Azir is still hilariously underpowered as far as dynamic goes, but the main reason he's at a 39% winrate right now is because he's free play this week and people are trying Azir out for the first time and just getting helplessly slaughtered. What people bitch about with Azir isn't his strength, its his irrationally, head-slammingly, frustrating laning phase. His safety combined with his relatively high damage for poke makes him a nightmare to lane against without someone who can match his range. If you're playing a melee mid-laner other than Kat or Zed, just keep your towelette handy because you'll need it to mop up your tears. Combined with the fact that so long as he has mana, he's virtually ungankable and unall-in-able, you have yourself a champion who is the source of a _lot_ of salt. Beyond the laning phase, though... Azir is just pathetic. He's one of the weakest champions in the game when it comes to post laning phase. His teamfighting is usually lethal with a good frontline because he's on par with squish levels of Anivia and if you have a lacklusted frontline or no frontline at all, then good luck doing anything in a teamfight other than throwing down your ult for a little bit of peel when the enemy assassin dives you harder than a yellow submarine. Azir dies... SO FAST... and it's not like it's actually hard to catch him, either. His defensive cooldowns are his offensive cooldowns, meaning if he has to use them in a teamfight, he might not have them up when he needs to... you know... _not_ die. Making an impact in a game as Azir is all but impossible without a lot of team coordination. There's a reason why he's a god-tier mid laner in professional team play and sort of a joke in regular ranked play.
> [{quoted}](name=Scareon41,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9xf7anpT,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-07-23T01:15:54.437+0000) > > Azir is still hilariously underpowered as far as dynamic goes, but the main reason he's at a 39% winrate right now is because he's free play this week and people are trying Azir out for the first time and just getting helplessly slaughtered. > > What people bitch about with Azir isn't his strength, its his irrationally, head-slammingly, frustrating laning phase. His safety combined with his relatively high damage for poke makes him a nightmare to lane against without someone who can match his range. If you're playing a melee mid-laner other than Kat or Zed, just keep your towelette handy because you'll need it to mop up your tears. Combined with the fact that so long as he has mana, he's virtually ungankable and unall-in-able, you have yourself a champion who is the source of a _lot_ of salt. > > Beyond the laning phase, though... Azir is just pathetic. He's one of the weakest champions in the game when it comes to post laning phase. His teamfighting is usually lethal with a good frontline because he's on par with squish levels of Anivia and if you have a lacklusted frontline or no frontline at all, then good luck doing anything in a teamfight other than throwing down your ult for a little bit of peel when the enemy assassin dives you harder than a yellow submarine. > > Azir dies... SO FAST... and it's not like it's actually hard to catch him, either. His defensive cooldowns are his offensive cooldowns, meaning if he has to use them in a teamfight, he might not have them up when he needs to... you know... _not_ die. > > Making an impact in a game as Azir is all but impossible without a lot of team coordination. There's a reason why he's a god-tier mid laner in professional team play and sort of a joke in regular ranked play. Azir's win rate is 39% ranked games. No such thing (free week)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bladerunner7777,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=735qtEFg,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2016-07-22T23:39:36.772+0000) > > 3 second stun (at longer range) is nothing to sneeze at. Not to mention it has a potent slow if it hits nearby players > > Either way Ashe has a high winrate that needs to be looked at and I'm sure Ashe players would prefer a CD nerf than an all around damage nerf I would prefer an all around damage nerf. Ashe is supposed to be a utility marksman; there's no reason she needs her best-in-class dps as well. Personally, I think adding a short cooldown on her Q, or nerfing its AD ratio, would be reasonable. {{item:1419}} {{item:3006}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3143}} does absurd amounts of damage, considering I have 4 slots' worth of defensive itemization. I mean, obviously I don't want a nerf. But I accept that one is coming, and I'd rather have it hit strengths that I don't care about.
> [{quoted}](name=Ashe Jungle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=735qtEFg,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2016-07-22T23:52:13.980+0000) > > I would prefer an all around damage nerf. Ashe is supposed to be a utility marksman; there's no reason she needs her best-in-class dps as well. > > Personally, I think adding a short cooldown on her Q, or nerfing its AD ratio, would be reasonable. > > {{item:1419}} {{item:3006}} {{item:3071}} {{item:3812}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3143}} does absurd amounts of damage, considering I have 4 slots' worth of defensive itemization. > > I mean, obviously I don't want a nerf. But I accept that one is coming, and I'd rather have it hit strengths that I don't care about. The most sensible nerf q (stack) damage nerf.Ashe's ad ratio is fine. I was playing Zac.I had enough armor but Ashe did 5.3k damage in two seconds.Only with her q.Ridiculous.
Caítlyn (NA)
: [POLL] Do you like Nexus Siege?
Very bad mode.URF, Ascension, Poro King are better game modes.
: Why is Ashe's ult CD so shortt?
Ashe's EU LCS win rate is 68%. High win and pick rate but legendary skin and moneys.Riot likes them.
: Why is Ashe's ult CD so shortt?
''I get it, Riot isn't going to nerf Ashe right now because they want to reap that sweet sweet money from the legendary skin.'' Wonderful comment.Congrats.You're right. Ashe legendary skin, Fiora skin buffs.We know Riot. Ashe is op right now.
HIZBIANS (NA)
: riot won't do anything with aatrox
Janna Bσt (EUNE)
: Buffs in 6.15
Meanwhile Riot thinks Azir is fine {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
Cloud273 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=snu6v7E0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-07-22T19:19:24.832+0000) > > They (Riot) are busy with Azir but a lot champions are strong at competitive. Azir isn't in every single game, unlike Trundle.
> [{quoted}](name=Cloud273,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=snu6v7E0,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-07-22T19:35:13.774+0000) > > Azir isn't in every single game, unlike Trundle. I know but Riot hates some champions and they love their special champions. They love special champions like Sivir, Trundle, Cait, Bard, Ashe, Jhin, Irelia (still 60% ban rate)
Cloud273 (NA)
: Who else is sick of Trundle in LCS?
They (Riot) are busy with Azir but a lot champions are strong at competitive.
Michigun (NA)
: azir's winrate is 40%
Riot you're Azir hater, you admit it.You allow Sivir, Caitlyn, Bard, Trundle, Vlad but you overnerf Azir.You destroyed and gutted Azir.
: Rylai's is getting to be a general problem across the board on AP champions, but it was **not** the sole cause of Azir's dominance. He had everything a champion could possible want, often on the same ability: poke, waveclear, burst, DPS (from Sand soldiers), mobility, engage and disengage with large damage (the ultimate) and a passive that spawns a freaking turret. If Rylai's gets nerfs, then sure, maybe he might need some help. But don't say that the sole cause of Azir's balancing problems falls on an item.
> [{quoted}](name=AvantelWings,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:41:40.411+0000) > > Rylai's is getting to be a general problem across the board on AP champions, but it was **not** the sole cause of Azir's dominance. He had everything a champion could possible want, often on the same ability: poke, waveclear, burst, DPS (from Sand soldiers), mobility, engage and disengage with large damage (the ultimate) and a passive that spawns a freaking turret. > > If Rylai's gets nerfs, then sure, maybe he might need some help. But don't say that the sole cause of Azir's balancing problems falls on an item. Azir's balance problem is Rylai and its CC. You know Azir hasn't real CC. His q gives only 25% slowing. 25% slowing isn't CC.Moreover his q has high CD and Azir's damage is DPS. Do you remember Azir before Rylai? Azir wasn't toxic champion.Rylai destroyed his kit.
inplane (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:32:48.198+0000) > > But Azir needs big buffs if Rylai to only do a very minor slow because his win rate is only 40%.Azir will be very weak champion if Rylai gets nerfs. Simply revert the nerfs in favour of these changes. There. Problem solved. Hooray for Azir players.
> [{quoted}](name=inplane,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:45:29.988+0000) > > Simply revert the nerfs in favour of these changes. There. Problem solved. Hooray for Azir players. I agree.I hope Riot can understand.
: > [{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:26:54.662+0000) > > Azir haters here again.They will downvote you because you opened true thread. Not everyone is an azir hater you 5 year old
> [{quoted}](name=ApexCH,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:41:17.553+0000) > > Not everyone is an azir hater you 5 year old Example 1 :) Big Azir hater and salty. No argument he has only salt.Silver 3, he hasn't Azir game and only hate :) Firstly you should play Azir following you can talk.
: Rylai's is getting to be a general problem across the board on AP champions, but it was **not** the sole cause of Azir's dominance. He had everything a champion could possible want, often on the same ability: poke, waveclear, burst, DPS (from Sand soldiers), mobility, engage and disengage with large damage (the ultimate) and a passive that spawns a freaking turret. If Rylai's gets nerfs, then sure, maybe he might need some help. But don't say that the sole cause of Azir's balancing problems falls on an item.
> [{quoted}](name=AvantelWings,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:41:40.411+0000) > > Rylai's is getting to be a general problem across the board on AP champions, but it was **not** the sole cause of Azir's dominance. He had everything a champion could possible want, often on the same ability: poke, waveclear, burst, DPS (from Sand soldiers), mobility, engage and disengage with large damage (the ultimate) and a passive that spawns a freaking turret. > > If Rylai's gets nerfs, then sure, maybe he might need some help. But don't say that the sole cause of Azir's balancing problems falls on an item. Actually problem Rylai and Azir's w skill.Slowing with every auto attack.
: Caitlyn doesn't need a nerf. Vayne just needs to be slightly better when she's been shut down. Now that Caitlyn actually reliably shuts her down, Vayne just needs a bump to make her slightly better when she's behind. This buff works to do that.
> [{quoted}](name=The Yetii Rider,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LGixPrFG,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:14:53.995+0000) > > Caitlyn doesn't need a nerf. Vayne just needs to be slightly better when she's been shut down. Now that Caitlyn actually reliably shuts her down, Vayne just needs a bump to make her slightly better when she's behind. This buff works to do that. Caitlyn needs nerf. (you know Azir's nerf because of competitive) Cait's stats are same.Caitlyn is Riot's special champion so Riot allows her.
HAS AIDS (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:34:58.511+0000) > > Actually people don't know main problem.Main problem is Rylai and all Azir mains know that. did i not just say that?
> [{quoted}](name=HAS AIDS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:35:52.415+0000) > > did i not just say that? I talked about Azir haters.90% of Boards.
HAS AIDS (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:27:42.368+0000) > > Boards doesn't know balance and counterplay.They are only crying. The issue with him is his counterplay is very little. He is a poke, DPS, burst mage that has a long range escape while also having a knockback wall that you cant jump over. If rylais wasn't so fucking broken on him I feel like he would be fine, but right now he can get in an extra 2 aa's every time he q's with the slow.
> [{quoted}](name=HAS AIDS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:32:30.971+0000) > > The issue with him is his counterplay is very little. He is a poke, DPS, burst mage that has a long range escape while also having a knockback wall that you cant jump over. If rylais wasn't so fucking broken on him I feel like he would be fine, but right now he can get in an extra 2 aa's every time he q's with the slow. Actually people don't know main problem.Main problem is Rylai and all Azir mains know that.I said two months ago. Azir's problem is only Rylai and its slowing.
inplane (NA)
: It would help if they adjusted Rylais to only do a very minor slow when proc'd from minion summons. That way Azir wont be so oppressive and Malz's voidlings wont be as frustrating to deal with.
> [{quoted}](name=inplane,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:32:00.496+0000) > > It would help if they adjusted Rylais to only do a very minor slow when proc'd from minion summons. That way Azir wont be so oppressive and Malz's voidlings wont be as frustrating to deal with. But Azir needs big buffs if Rylai to only do a very minor slow because his win rate is only 40%.Azir will be very weak champion if Rylai gets nerfs.
: He needs a rework. He's quickly becoming the new ryze. Nerfed = useless. Strong = hilariously broken on anyone who knows him.
> [{quoted}](name=Tychusfindlay919,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ALLyY4iJ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-07-22T16:29:20.401+0000) > > He needs a rework. He's quickly becoming the new ryze. Nerfed = useless. Strong = hilariously broken on anyone who knows him. Azir wasn't broken.His pick and ban rate was only high NA LCS and Riot nerfed him according to NA LCS. Azir's LCK ban rate was 35%, EU LCS ban rate was 35%, LPL ban rate was 30% but his NA LCS ban rate was 55% We know Bjergsen, Pobelter, Jensen, Fenix, GBM are good Azir players so Riot's balance team is very bad. 35% ban rate is acceptable for Azir because Bard's, Braum's, Cait's ban rates are 35%. Meanwhile I agree your idea but Azir needs small rework, so small.
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