: Interesting. I thought that the demon of secrets was reminiscent of Malphas, but this could work as well. That said, I'm not exactly sure that this is intentional. I'm **_never_** one to doubt Riot's lore team, but a reference to Weyer's works seems too obscure to make.
I don't think it's intentional either. All [Goetic demons](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demons_in_the_Ars_Goetia) command some number of legions and furthermore have a very different background from what Riot has defined demons to be.
: Personally? No, he isn't. A refined gentleman wielding a farming implement? Preposterous.
{{champion:8}} "Me? Holding a scythe? Like some sort of... peasant?"
: > Can you imagine if VLAD was the one wielding Rhaast? Vladimir, **the Crimson Reaper**.
I am warming up to this idea though I have to ask - is Vlad the kind of guy to wield a weapon?
: > Immortality was one of the main goals of Boram's life though - and assuming he still has some passion towards the arcane, why didn't he take the crimson path to immortality? After all, he had an example of the efficiency right in front of him. Why didn't he ask to learn from the master? Boram tampered with necromancy, but was he ever confirmed to be a sorcerer himself? He could've used the extensive knowledge of the leaders of the Black Rose to raise the dead for him or postpone his expiration date, or simply wasn't skilled enough - assuming he _was_ a mage - to master blood magic. Perhaps he didn't have enough time to devote himself to the study of the sanguine art, what with having to rule Noxus? Vlad could've refused to teach him, as well, or chose to teach him simple tricks so as to not give him more power than LeBlanc found him necessary to have. Boram could've not even known that blood magic existed if the Black Rose chose to hide its existence from him in the first place. Maybe he was too paranoid or delusional for a non-Rose-affiliated blood mage (if such were active during his reign) to teach him their ways? > Why haven't we seen/heard of more immortal blood mages? Because none of them are as infamous, influential, or powerful as Vlad? Because Riot doesn't want too many red spell effects in the game? Who knows.
>Boram tampered with necromancy, but was he ever confirmed to be a sorcerer himself? He could've used the extensive knowledge of the leaders of the Black Rose to raise the dead for him or postpone his expiration date, or simply wasn't skilled enough - assuming he was a mage - to master blood magic. Boram was never confirmed to have managed to extend his life. We don't even know if he tampered with necromancy in the new lore. Can anyone practice blood magic or does it require talent? >Perhaps he didn't have enough time to devote himself to the study of the sanguine art, what with having to rule Noxus? He sounds like a man who would sell his crown for an extra century of life. Could he have attempted? >Boram could've not even known that blood magic existed if the Black Rose chose to hide its existence from him in the first place. Maybe he was too paranoid or delusional for a non-Rose-affiliated blood mage (if such were active during his reign) to teach him their ways? He definitely knew since blood mages served in the Noxian army during his rule. With regards to Boram's insanity - hard to speculate at this stage. He definitely trusted the Rose... at some point. >Because none of them are as infamous, influential, or powerful as Vlad? Surely someone else mastered the Craft to that degree at some point. Vlad can't be that special... Right?
: I didn't say Vladimir "casually" uses blood magic: Vlad possesses a dark talent for hemomancy - the science of controlling the vital essence of living creatures. Even so, he needed to sacrifice years of his life and help from Dmitri to learn the craft, and then master it. It's obviously not something that any random arcanist is capable of, otherwise every man or woman with even a slight interest in immortality would become a blood mage, from matron LeBlanc and lady Elise to Darkwill himself. However, unless Vladimir is more ancient than Mordekaiser and the Rune Wars, he wouldn't have been around the time of the Darkin War to directly learn the art of blood magic from the Darkin, which is why I said he inherited that knowledge from his hemomancer predecessors.
Immortality was one of the main goals of Boram's life though - and assuming he still has some passion towards the arcane, why didn't he take the crimson path to immortality? After all, he had an example of the efficiency right in front of him. Why didn't he ask to learn from the master? Why haven't we seen/heard of more immortal blood mages? I like all you've said btw I just want to hear more of your thoughts.
: We don't know. Vlad's lore remains to be updated. Humans either learned or stole the power of blood magic from the Darkin before, during, or after the Darkin War. Vlad was probably one of the mages who inherited that knowledge, using it to prolong his life, and has been an important political figure in Noxus since the time when the empire first started to rise.
If one can casually use blood magic to live forever then why didn't Boram study the Craft?
: Is Kayle and Karthus a thing in pentakill universe?
Says right here they got together: http://pentakill.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/#s/band >She heard the depthless well of misery in his despairing lyrics and knew Karthus alone could understand her own sorrow. What followed was a drunken woe-off, a night of debauchery, gothic poetry and operatic singing that saw the men and women of the Slaughter Docks hurl themselves into the monster-filled ocean rather than listen to their maudlin duets. In the aftermath, Karthus and Kayle pledged the Vocalist’s Oath to return stronger than ever. After all, shared woe is better than solitary woe.
: No worries, we all love things and when they feel neglected we get upset. Vlad has some interesting stuff relating to how noxian society works— unfortunately because that stuff is still R&D I couldn’t be sure where/if it will be used— thus couldnt really use that info for a lore type interaction with Aatrox. This left me looking for jokes with him— i wrote a couple and they were “okay”. But knowing he was mainly a midlaner who “could” flex top- i decided the best joke wasn’t good enough to warrant inclusion over other material. You, myself, everyone makes mistakes Thanks for your kind words I hope vlad stuff gets your way soon
The complaints were because the Darkin have serious canon lore reasons to interact with mortal blood mages, ones many players have been inquiring about. That said I don't blame you for not knowing much about a character Riot hasn't discussed much yet. > Vlad has some interesting stuff relating to how noxian society works— unfortunately because that stuff is still R&D I couldn’t be sure where/if it will be used I know - I might get to work or at least try to help with that myself fairly soon. See you at Riot next month (I hope!). Once more has been set in motion it would be an absolute honor to hear your opinions. PS Thank you so much for replying to this thread.
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: I don't believe I ever saw the script before the final recording sessions took place, so I'd also be interested to see anything that was cut before that :-)
It's a bit sad that people waited and asked in the most civil, polite ways possible for some characterisation with this VGU, starting as early as February, and got a middle finger from Riot again. I know it's not as bad as it seems, but all the other fans who've been longing for this don't :(
: I cut it early I believe. Something about not glimmering enough. --I decided using "twilight" to mock someone was to esoteric.
Of all the Vladimir source material you can take and expand on to create a highly relevant and intelligent bit of lore you go for this one? Shaking my head family. (Besides Twilight was 10 years ago and is quite forgotten) That said thank you for sharing, I had a chuckle.
: (Pssst - if it didn't get published, then it's not canon...) ;-)
_give_ (that said I love Bobo's writing and would love to read them at the very least as representatation of his judgment regarding Vladimir's connection to the Darkin)
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: What are you talking about? Could be something hotter than a bare chested demon of war and blood? You can already hear the fans swooning and photoprinting posters to look in the lonely nights.
I was totally being serious... Frankly it's a good thing Riot takes more care to preserve champion identities.
Tialilia (EUW)
: Aatrox Teaser!
Damn, with the recent trend in male champion reworks I expected him to be a fabulous winged sparkly vampire... Edit: Sorry for the shitpost, I've been playing Hot Eurojank 2018 almost exclusively in the last few days in case you couldn't tell. https://78.media.tumblr.com/fb141064fd6ab76efd74215d3e6045fd/tumblr_p8601vMeMI1qjztgpo1_400.gifv
: These are all, indeed, questions. :-)
: Yes, I always assumed he had dark hair. It's not yet clear if his white hair is because he's getting on in years... or because DEMON. Maybe we'll explore more of his backstory soon.
Reav3 mentioned in the same (reddit) post it was likely age, but his hair turning white overnight due to his struggle with the demon is pretty badass. > soon I daydream about my boards name becoming some shade of red (preferably crimson), so that I can post cryptic "fairly soon" messages wherever it would maximize hype and/or distress. Wielding the power to disrupt so many peaceful lives must be intoxicating. PS **Tides of Blood** (Matt) is my friend and not an alt account.
Space Odity (EUNE)
: @Riot , I'm sorry, but this question has been bugging me lately, and there's no clear answer to it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blood Magicks,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Zh37efoX,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-05-30T15:07:54.421+0000) > > This is just my opinion, but the current narrative leads are the most professional and dedicated ones we've ever had in this game. That's mildly debatable when they were so willing to rewrite Nautilus entirely so they could use his lore for Pyke instead. That's a major no-no in my book, and no narrative lead should ever be cannibalizing old lore to use for new characters. [To quote from WaarghBobo](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/BdPgp4xW-pyke-voice-lines-are-utterly-disappointing?show=flat&comment=000100000000000200020000): > [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=BdPgp4xW,comment-id=000100000000000200020000,timestamp=2018-05-18T21:05:25.865+0000) > > So I'm gonna be totally honest. (buckle up) > > When Pyke was entering pre-production, narrative was also looking at Nautilus's lore. He along with Fizz and a few other champs were still outliers from our recon / current lore. > > And there **was** concern Pyke was too close to Nautilus. But internally, our leads felt that Pyke hit the "revenant" thematic better than Nautilus. Then the plan was to change Nautilus's lore significantly-- prior to Pyke's release. >--And actually they were going to change Nautilus to something I pitched to solve the problem. (Namely: Nautilus was a person seeking redemption within the cult of Nagakabouros. He was a man that had agreed to have his soul placed in a sacred golem. An extremely difficult and lonely duty working as a sentinel for as long as he could keep... going.) Internally teams loved it. >BUT that pitch was then taken to players with a rather larger survey and... the players hated it. > You can see that they were completely willing to completely gut an existing champion's narrative (who wasn't getting a VGU to bring them in line with new lore) in order to make Pyke feel unique. That's not how good writing works. You don't retcon old information to make the new information look new and fancy. You either tell a unique take on a similar story, with enough differences to make it it's own thing, or you don't tell the story at all. Under no circumstance is it considered good for narrative to be willing to remove what makes older champions who they are in order to make someone else built around that same narrative.
This kind of thing has been happening pretty frequently at Riot(various departments) and I attribute it to the ever growing number of champions and the limited amount of sellable stories and archetypes. However I've only ever seen Narrative apologize for it and try to correct their mistakes.
Jokera (NA)
: I just wanted to personally thank Scathlocke and the narrative/story team
This is just my opinion, but the current narrative leads are the most professional and dedicated ones we've ever had in this game.
: But Scathlocke, are they all going to have Mordekaiser references in their bios like Leblanc did? Is Sona's Ethwal actually an ancient Artifact from Morde's reign? Did Vladimir know the big ol' Revenant? Is Talon's obsession with longswords actually related to a hidden metalmancy in his bloodline?
Fun fact: They've hired G R R Martin to write a Mordekaiser short story. Also, starting Halloween, there will be a bi-weekly comic about him. The next Noxus lore update will mention Morde more times than Vladimir and Talon... together! Finally, there is a Pentakill minseries in development, all sponsored by Netflix and Hulu. ~~get outta here with your cheesy pop music~~
Fasmodey (EUW)
: http://www.lol-wallpapers.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/Snow-Day-Graves-Splash-Art-HD-4k-Wallpaper-Background-Official-Art-Artwork-League-of-Legends-lol-1024x604.jpg What about this? Are you aware of it? A golden card of Twisted Fate near a carrot licking poro. And just right of it there is picture of TF and Graves.
I've seen this and it's more on the cute side. In contrast the bios in the OP are straight up hilarious.
Fasmodey (EUW)
: Is it just me or Cutpurse TF and Cutthroat Graves skin bios are full of innuendos?
How haven't I seen this gem sooner? Thank you for pointing it out.
: Most magic in Runeterra originates from the spirit realm, which connection with the material world is strongest in Ionia. So far we only know of people born with magic, although mages appear to only discover their powers in their teens (eg. Lux, Taliyah). Edit: Taliyah discovered her powers way earlier, my bad So we don't know if they're actually **born** with magic abilities or acquire them during childhood (most official sources say mages are born with magic though). However, there are a few exceptions: **Blood Magic** Blood magic was originally introduced by the darkin and taught to humanity. Vladimir in turn was taught blood magic by a monk, without previous magical abilities being mentioned (doesn't necessarily mean he didn't have them though). Edit: May not be canon anymore. **Hextech** Hextech crystals are part of the brackern (Skarner's race) and hold immense magical power, which can be used by harvesting it through machinery. **Fusing with a demon** What Swain did. We don't know if he or the demon is the one using magic though.
The Vlad one isn't canon anymore (check Interlocutioner post history).
: How do you learn magic in Runeterra, and can anyone learn it?
As far as I know League does not have a well-defined hard magic system. It seems to vary from context to context and from region to region. To be honest they might be better off not defining it. Having strict rules may improve some plots but might decrease diversity and limit future developments.
: Black Water skins skin bio on PBE
Damn, I was so bracing for the "Shape of Water" references in the Vlad skin... oh well, this is still great.
: Dark Waters Vlad and Diana Splash Arts
I suppose all this... _water_... shall _slake_ my _thirst_... for the time being.
: Dark Waters Vladimir Skin Spotlight - Pre-Release - League of Legends
The effects are extremely satisfying. Something about the ult vortices syncing up with the swirly effects on the other spells. Gorgeous skin on an awful rig and base animations :(
: Finally Vlad chromas and his own icon. Thank you Riot!
The icon is quite something.
: Fuck yes Vladimir. And not!Lady Maria Diana? I'm contractually obligated to get this. MY SHIP IS SAILING WITH THESE WATER SKINS.
Wait I thought your ship was Vladimir x everyone attractive? That said thank you Riot, this is beautiful despite the rig. Can't wait for details and splash, hopefully as breathtaking as the last two arts Vlad got.
: That's really great to hear - I'd love to see more players getting excited by League lore and writing their own stories. I wouldn't have my job right now if I hadn't submitted fan-fiction to Games Workshop in like 2010, which ended up with me being published as a writer, then working for them as an editor, and now being here at Riot... :-) My advice to you is the same I'd give to anyone. If you want to be a writer, then start writing (and reading!) every day. Read everything you can, fiction and non-fiction, from as many genres and styles as you can. Write anything that you feel inspired to try, and never throw away anything you've written. Look back at stuff you wrote a week ago, a month ago, whatever. Figure out how to make it better. Re-write it. When you're comfortable with stuff you've written, post it online for comments from other writers and fans. Join writing clubs. Join book clubs. Find your favorite authors, and read everything they've ever published. If you decide you'd like to try writing for a living one day, my favorite ever quote/advice about writing comes from Lawrence Kasdan, most famous for his Star Wars work: _"Being a writer is like having homework every night for the rest of your life."_ Truth.
Hi Scathlocke, On the topic of fanfiction rewrites, I've done some solid edits to my contest story, because I really want it to be perfect or at least better than what the word limit allowed it to be. Can I share them? I never asked, but will there be a future for the Narrative winning entries? Are any of you lore folks open to discussing that future? I would love to write more!
Reav3 (NA)
: Should be some more info on Aatrox, plus a small teaser, in the next Champions Roadmap. Hoping to get that out sometime next week.
Hi Reav3 and sorry for my persistence but while there is still room for additions would it be possible to tease some {{champion:8}} lore with the Aatrox/Darkin update? Blood magic users etc. A little inspiration can go a long way for the community. I don't know if the writers have considered it and it is perfectly understandable if they decide it wouldn't fit the story, but equally it's an interaction that would make sense. Thanks in advance if you do think about it.
: Riot really needs to stop over-sexualizing fantasy dragons.
To be fair, dragons are very sexually charged in some folklores. In South Slavic myth (my culture) a dragon is a benevolent entitity who bestows his blessings on a village and guards it from evil spirits. Curiously enough as part of his pact with the villagers, the dragon will turn into a beautiful man and woo maidens from the village, and may choose a bride to take with himself to the Underworld. The "Dragon's Bride" is marked by the gradual loss of her sanity. Female dragons behave similarly but naturally target young men.
: Larriet has hit upon it, there. When we say "More to come..." we don't necessarily mean "...in the next few weeks!" ;-) But you will see more and more connective tissue between stories. We are building a world through the eyes, actions and interactions of the champions - Swain's new lore hinted at the Placidium battle, then Irelia's filled it out some more. There's still plenty to be told there, but the story focus is moving with each new champion... Where to, next? I'm not going to spoil the surprises - sorry! :-D
Hi Scathlocke, speaking of seeds to be planted, should I summon the Crimson Church for the Darkin update, or should we lie dormant for the time being? Thanks, an Arch-Priest of the Blood Cult
: Oof, research is... not my expertise. I consider FauxSchizzle and WAAARGHBobo to be the resident experts at Riot. Both of them employ vast, portable libraries kept on carts by their desks. They contain everything from comic books to more reference-y references. Also, books with titles like "Weapon," "Blood Sacrifices"... and a bottle of gin. I believe both of them were interviewed for this brief doc on Xayah and Rakan, and you can catch a glimpse of their process! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-k3TbFwMgI
> Blood sacrifices I just made one to the Blood God in the hopes of you elaborating on the future of this one, Interloc.
: If you're looking to improve at writing I can boil it down into three basic tips: read more, write more, and put your work out where people can see it. You need to be reading in the same way doctors need to go to medical conferences: you should know how language is evolving, what sorts of stories you're drawn to, what the rules of writing are and how you're able to convincingly break them without losing the reader. It also keeps your imagination sharp, which is most important. Writing more is simply a good way to get better at the craft. Plus, you know, you have to write to... be a writer. You'll also, if you've been reading or consuming written media a lot, have a good sense of taste -- even if your skill level isn't quite meeting your own standards yet. Just keep making stuff. The things I wrote five years ago are nowhere near the quality I'm hitting today, and I suspect in five years I'll look back on my work now and find ways to improve it further. Finally, you need feedback. Honest feedback. If you're surrounded by people who say your work can't possibly be improved you will never get better, ever. Get a peer group together and write with them. If at any point they all think your writing is consistently flawless, find a new writing group and start over. You can always, always, _always_ improve, so keep working at it and keep your mind open to new opinions or ideas. As a side note, don't get too comfortable with your own work. A little humility goes a long way.
Thanks! I think the last one is the hardest. When it comes to League, the Boards Creations and Content Discord group is actually pretty good for sharing and feedback. Just putting this out there for whoever might be interested. Still, it's just fanfiction so the standards of such a community don't quite match the ambitions I have sometimes.
: [This one was pretty popular.](https://medium.com/@jaredrosen/the-millennials-are-getting-worse-3f53e44cc569)
That was great. Let me go hang myself because my grasp and mastery of language will never be so utterly amazing, and the topics I want to write about will never be this fresh. Edit, if you're still here: How do I git gud at style?
: Nautilus lore - what's most important to you?
Hi, I don't really have anything to add to the discussion, but I applaud the communication and transparency here. Nice one! I'll be curious to see how it goes. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Vlad's got his goddamn priorities straight. Even if it's just skin lore, I'll happily take it. This gives me a warm, throbbing feeling. Thank you, Riot. {{sticker:vlad-salute}}
Seconded! Thank you, dear Rito (especially whoever wrote this).
: Hi Blood Magicks! One, thank you so much... YOU bring me joy in my dark weeks with your comments. That is a really cool idea! I know we did one "behind the scenes" thing before with the reference used in splash art, something that digs into the process of how some of them (like Marquis Vlad) are made would be really neat - I'm ALL about that process! I'm going to go ask some buddies around the office about how we could do that. Thank you for the suggestion!
Thank you for replying, and I'm honoured you remember me! I definitely didn't mean an entire "behind the scenes" thing - that would be too much to ask for! It's just that I often see images like these nowadays, e.g. for Varus and a few others(Irelia, Vayne etc): https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/008/507/409/large/jessica-oyhenart-varus-process01.jpg And I wondered if you could post all the additional/discarded ones for Marquis Vlad if you still have them somewhere? Thanks, and sorry if the search ends up pointless.
: My pleasure, Jungler Soul. Signing splashes or attributing them isn't something I can do in the client, but I can definitely help you out. Feel free to ask me here on the forums anytime, I love sharing the work of my art heroes.
Hi OwleyCat, This is a strange request for a bit of an old project of yours, but it will mean a ton to my content-starved heart if I end up getting something. I know that wonderful Marquis Vlad splash (blonde hair blue coat one) was a collab with Viktor Titov, but I wondered if, like with other splashes, there were several draft variants produced before you agreed on a composition? If yes can you find them and share them? Thank you so much, /r/Vladimirmains absolutely adore the art and we can definitely see your touch in it. It got me through some of the darkest weeks of my life because just looking at it reminded me there was joy in this world. Cheers, A fan
Erdamon (EUNE)
: WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS RUMBLE SKIN
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: But THEN you create the issue of just how is Swain supposed to show this girl off if she's a war mage while in the middle of an actual war with the country Swain is trying to conquer. This character is specifically a warmage, not someone who's going to be sneaking into the kingdom of Demacia itself and spreading the seeds of treachery. She's going to be on the lines of wars *killing* demacian soldiers. And with Demacia already isolationist as it is, I find it hard to believe news of this girl with be circulating with anyone other than a few survivor horror stories or intelligence officers working for the royal class. Borders would most certainly be closed, curfews in place, all the good stuff to keep any non fighters away from the excitement. And if the oppressed people were conscripted? They'd be the ones getting lightninged by Noxian war mages. Even if open warfare is only *about* to break loose, your character still would not be anywhere close to a position to serve as a posterchild. She'd either be waiting in some forward camp or fortification with whatever band of noxian troops she was assigned too, or if she's not even finished her training she'd be back in the capitol or wherever spooky Noxian mages goof around until she was needed on the front. If Swain wanted to be stirring unrest and gathering support in Demacia, he would of done it before things got this bad and with operatives trained for these kind of covert shenanigans.
You're assuming too much and these are all things a clever strategist can navigate around.
: Not to speak for the author, but the story is about a young woman who moves into a new stage of life (after bleeding heavily) by accepting the offer of a charming stranger over the rigid orders of her father. It isn't overtly sexual (which is good because Lucy seems to be way younger than Vlad, and that would be...eugh), but the subtext seems to be centered around her breaking free of the way her culture treats her. Picking "Lucy" over "Lucille", for example. One of them is a flowery, fancy name, probably given by her father. The other one is one she chose herself. The symbolism there is pretty striking. Also, this might be a stretch/not what the OP is intending, but some fans view the whole "hiding your magical abilities" thing as a sort of proxy for hiding homosexuality, but that's mostly with Lux's story. Lucy's got the same talents, but different circumstances. Ooooor maybe i'm completely wrong and babbling, that's the beauty of literature!
> Also, this might be a stretch/not what the OP is intending, but some fans view the whole "hiding your magical abilities" thing as a sort of proxy for hiding homosexuality, but that's mostly with Lux's story. Lucy's got the same talents, but different circumstances. Not a stretch and very intentional, although I would argue magic is just ambiguous socially unacceptable sexual expression rather than strictly homosexuality (even Riot confirming Lux is not gay). We've seen it in a lot of media recently (Frozen, Harry Potter stuff, lots of witch-themed movies e.g. Thelma from 2017). You actually nailed quite a lot. Good job! Probably my fault as the author for what you didn't nail. I should stress more on the cultural violence portrayed in the suicide attempt on my next rewrite (consider the stake as a tool in destroying both witches and vampires, both sexually heavy tropes). Also, the charming stranger helping her through education and medical understanding rather than through love and empathy... Additionally I wrote a ton in the contest thread about how the entire Lucy character thing is a [Dracula reference](http://polycount.com/discussion/197824/complete-a-type-of-liberation#latest). Anyway yeah you can't easily discuss themes this delicate with so much subtlety on many other champs. Vlad is pretty amazing.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blood Magicks,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=QEWsKUQn,comment-id=00030000000000000002000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-17T17:25:15.175+0000) > > Her image is not meant for Noxus. She's originally a Demacian noble (a Spiritmight to be precise, that's the house J4's mother comes from) so in my mind Swain is perfectly aware displaying her in front of Demacians as a decorated, revered and accomplished young woman may convince many of the people who were once in her position to join him (so mostly women and mages, which is still a lot). > > I agree we have enough pretty champs but as the writer of this character I think looking good suits her quite well. But in that you create another problem. Swain's trying to use this girl to convince **Demacians* to defect to Noxus. We need to remember how xenophobic, prideful and fanatical Demacia can be in the new lore. The grand majority of the populace are pretty happy with their situation, they've been raised to believe in Demacia as a symbol of Good and Justice after all. You have a few outliers like Lux of course since she's a mage in an isolationist state that hates magic, but even she isn't really against Demacia itself and is still somewhat of a product of her upbringing. So maybe a couple of mages might be drawn to Noxus by Swain's little marketing campaign, but those same people would of probably shown up there anyway if they fled Demacia because of how accepting Noxus is too anyone with some form of strength. That's just not really worth the effort unless all those mages turned out to be like Syndra levels of crazy powerful, which is like one in a million. Demacia is just the last place you want to be looking for recruits, silly bird demon man.
This isn't about recruits. Noxus is practically at Demacia's gates, waging war. Swain needs to not just defeat them on the battlefields, he needs to gain as much support within the kingdom as possible. Mages aren't the only screwed subclass of Demacians. Women in general (Fiora lore) and some men have it hard too. Elevate someone who can have a claim to social standing AND speak to the unprivileged to convince them Swain's reign will be more beneficial to them than the current social structure and you have a valuable asset.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blood Magicks,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=QEWsKUQn,comment-id=000300000000000000020000,timestamp=2018-03-17T16:47:50.721+0000) > > Well if you follow my concept she's a teenage girl and also a posterchild, she has to look very presentable. Noxus society isn't really one that requires posterchilds though, there whole society is based around one's strength and how they can use that to contribute to the nation as a whole. You know what they do have, though? War heros. As they giant statue of pre-zomb Sion would so well indicate. Plus a teenage girl probably wouldn't look like conventionally pretty when she has to dedicate most if not all of her free time to studying dangerous magics and then applying said magics to Noxus's enemies is freakin *open warfare*, as well as the quelling on non-contents. And on top of that, we already have enough pretty champs for now. In fact I don't think we have a non-pretty female champ from Noxus in the first place, Leblanc Kat, Elise(human form of course), and Riven are all from Rito's dark age of sameface design, and Cass can pretty much be included in there too considering she looks relatively similar save for serpent lower body. Strive for variety, my friend. Do not fall into the same sand-trap so commonly seen in these kind of games when it comes to character design, that just gets boring.
> Noxus society isn't really one that requires posterchilds though Her image is not meant for Noxus. She's originally a Demacian noble (a Spiritmight to be precise, that's the house J4's mother comes from) so in my mind Swain is perfectly aware displaying her in front of Demacians as a decorated, revered and accomplished young woman may convince many of the people who were once in her position to join him (so mostly women and mages, which is still a lot). I agree we have enough pretty champs but as the writer of this character I think looking good suits her quite well.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blood Magicks,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=QEWsKUQn,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-16T21:39:46.911+0000) > > Or, for the Noxus witch part: Imagine this but more pretty and less macabre. > https://i.imgur.com/iBoE3xG.jpg Why *less*? I think the grittiness fits Noxus's style to a T.
Well if you follow my concept she's a teenage girl and also a posterchild, she has to look very presentable.
: > [{quoted}](name=Beast Brawler,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=QEWsKUQn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-16T15:17:14.707+0000) > > What do you mean by undertones of sexuality, the only thing remotely sexual was the "well bred" bit. Care to elaborate? Thank goodness, thought I was alone here in thinking that sounded a tad random.
Okay real talk. A lot of the symbolism has to do with cultural perceptions of female sexuality and how that has hurt the main character.
: What do you mean by undertones of sexuality, the only thing remotely sexual was the "well bred" bit. Care to elaborate?
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