: corki's ult
Corki is one of the best midlaners right now, his ult sinergyzes with sheen passive very well and when he is ahead it also does great poke damage.
xelaker (NA)
: I don't even have to look. You play kais at least semi often.
He mains Kai sa but he has 46% win rate with her which is probably why he can't see how strong she is right now.
: Imagine you are allowed to delete one champion from the game?
darroll (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Crystalysk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m7h29663,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-20T22:03:34.921+0000) > > Dude, Eve is not bad pre 6, people just spreading this legend. She is not top tier but can pull off some good early ganks. > > I get first blood on Eve almost every game. Almost everytime she gets a kill on a gank, every top meta junglers could have too (with a few exceptions like Rengar or Nocturne). And the problem is not only her ganking potential, it's also her 1v1 or 2v2 potential that is probably the worst of all junglers before 6. And if you take a look at the most played junglers, almost all of them can just come in her jungle to destroy her if they have lane priority and she won't be able to do anything. > And people simply don’t know how to play versus her. > People never build early magic defense against her and that’s why she has good snowball potential. > People don’t buy enough control wards, actually only 1 out of 10 games enemy team buys a pink to place behind when they are sieging. In my games people buy a lot of pinks and often items like mercury boots early. And they use their pink in the river so if my laners can't come with me it's verry risky to take down their pink. And when they are sieging, it's way more than 1 out of 10 (almost all time at least the support gets pinks at each back). Players past gold know how to counter Eve, it's a basic thing like "don't chase Singed" or "don't facecheck without vision or information about the ennemy team", they know that you must buy control wards and put them on key places against her. > Any form of cc negates her as she just explodes the moment she is not able to move. Yeah that's why I think her E not working when she is rooted is pretty stupid. > > This meta filled with assassins and squiscy targets is perfect for her since she is good into those champions. > If, let’s say, people pick all assassins and squiscy into Eve then they cannot babyrage. > > She is supposed to be good into those comps and she is most likely not focusing the only tank the enemy team has. Eve is definitely not so good against assassins, at least the jungle ones. Rengar just destroy her and prevent her from going too agressive because of his ult and cannot be one burst because of his W, Kha destroy her aswell until she has 3 items, blue Kayn can do whatever he wants from the moment he has his blue form... Yi cannot die against her as long as he's not stupid and get a QSS when she becomes able to one shot people. And a lot of mid assassins such as Akali or Talon can just temporize her charm with their invisibility, or just have too much mobility and/or CC like Ahri or Leblanc. But yeah the squicies are good for Evelynn. She's not bad at all atm, but too weak in early especially if the ennemy jungler plays aggressive, and to compensate too strong later in the game.
Well, if you know what pathing the enemy jungler is doing you can really get all your camps safely. Besides that she is not weak by any mean at level 3 and can win some 2v2, 1v1 is harder early game and it's better avoid them sure. I actually play her in diamond and here is where i started seeing people getting some pinks. I have a smurf in gold and you can literally hard carry ALMOST every game as Eve, they just don't know how to deal with her but that doesn't mean she is overpowered. She is not weak but not op either and basically the only ap jungler slightly viable in this meta. And trust me, Eve is amazing into assassins. I'd rather play her into Kha Zix than into Sejuani or Amumu which just cc her to death at level 6. Some assassins can stall treu but: - Akali can stall her W but you'll be there ready to 2v1 her and you will not need charm to kill - Talon can escape but you are trading a 10 sec cd spell with an ultimate which is already a win Then again, you don't need charm past level 11 to kill squiscy champs unless they get MR. And btw you are going to play Eve into Rengar or Nocturne like 1 out of 50 games. And still you can deal with them if you know what you are doing. You can even deal with blue Kayn if you are smart but i'd rather ban him right now.
: any other tips?
Just spam it until you reach the elo where people actually know how to dive and enjoy getting dove level 2 almost every game if you play him mid. He was my main mid when i didn't get my main role and have pretty decent winrate but i have to play something else now when i'm mid because you don't even get to play the game if the enemies are smart.
darroll (EUW)
: Evelynn gameplay problems (Eve main)
Dude, Eve is not bad pre 6, people just spreading this legend. She is not top tier but can pull off some good early ganks. I get first blood on Eve almost every game. And people simply don’t know how to play versus her. People never build early magic defense against her and that’s why she has good snowball potential. People don’t buy enough control wards, actually only 1 out of 10 games enemy team buys a pink to place behind when they are sieging. Any form of cc negates her as she just explodes the moment she is not able to move. This meta filled with assassins and squiscy targets is perfect for her since she is good into those champions. If, let’s say, people pick all assassins and squiscy into Eve then they cannot babyrage. She is supposed to be good into those comps and she is most likely not focusing the only tank the enemy team has. EDIT: btw if she cant assassinate anyone without charm past 25 she is going to be useless in fights. And she already can't oneshot without W or R unless she's got fed early game.
: Your standard Plat-elo hell game
this kind of shit games happens and is frustrating watching your lp fly away like this but... sometimes you get lp because enemy team has the ragequitters too. And btw you can climb easily out of platinum if you know what you are doing and don’t tilt.
: You've fed like this (look at your match history on 11/6/19, you fed in multiple games) and you'll feed like this again Your skill is shown when you make the difference in SOME AMOUNT of a LARGE SAMPLE of games Everyone gets these games, focus on the ones you could have won, but lost. Don't waste time on these.
Hey dude, just letting you know that on my smurf which has 36 lp gain average per win and 9 per lose i went through a three game lose streak where the scores were something like 10 to 40 @20 and i basically was the only guy with kills and (most of them being solo kills). Some games are literally uncarriable no matter what, especially if you are jungle and 2 or 3 of your lanes are dying when i'm doing my 3rd camp. Sometimes you get this kind of team and you literally can't do anything about that, true. But recently this is happening more often than before because almost every game is a one side stomp. This really is a big problem in the current meta.
: How many champions do you own?
I have all champions but basically play only one in ranked. I have tried multiple times to stick to a champion over 6 seasons but i only found the champion i like during s9.
Yenn (NA)
: My lane is 3-0-0 at level 6. I'm being 100 to 0'd in a single combo. I can't play the game.
I totally understand your point and I agree on everything. Only thing I have to say is that this shit happens to junglers too. I played on my smurf the past 2 days and i’ve Lost a couple games because there were 2/3 lanes (yeah even all of them) dying at 3:00 without ANY gank from enemy jungler. Then proceed to die every time they got to lane. Legit didn’t have time to fix their lanes with a gank. I finished a game 9/3/0, yeah the only guy with kills and having a team with a grand total of 3 assists which means almost all my kills were solo kills. But hey when they go 40 deaths in 25 minutes you won’t carry.
CDang (NA)
: MMR And LP Gain
I basically did the same. Started my climb properly with 48% winrate in p4 then got all the way to diamond 4 raising my win rate to 54%. First 4 wins in diamond got me 17-17-16-15. Stopped playing ranked.
: PLEASE STOP DOING THIS! Also read this tip I have for you so you can win more.
If i had even 1$ for every time i should have dodged a game because of what you are saying i would be millionare.
Chiken138 (EUW)
: How is Evelyn and Riven not being nerfed
You may think i might be biased because I play Evelynn but let me just tell you that champions like {{champion:32}} and {{champion:113}} can 100-0 without letting her even R away. She is good into some comps but if you pick CC and grab some {{item:2055}} she won't be able to make many plays unless enemy team is bad. If your team is filled with assassins then she is just going to run over your team. She is situational and people only think she is overpowered because they either don't respect her and permapush without vision or are just bad. Also, don't tell me i had a pink in tri bush because that's useless. If you want to avoid ganks you need deep vision to track her pathing on camps (which also applies to all the other junglers). And when you siege as 5 against a {{champion:28}} all you need is a {{item:2055}} behind you so she can't flank. People not being able to play against her =/= her being overpowered. EDIT: i forgot to mention that everytime people cry about her i check their match history and ser a game where she snowballed and nobody on the enemy team bought a single MR item. You just need {{item:3155}} and you won't get oneshot. Don't buy it when she is already full items though
: How to improve lp gain
I walked in to the same issue when i hit diamond. I had 48% winrate when i decided to start climbing properly, went from 48% p4 to 54% d4 without any demotion and my lp gain went from 23-25 to 15-17. I lost my first 2 games in diamond and then won 4 straight after, gaining 17-17-16-15 in this order. Don't know if i'll keep trying to climb or just wait for next season.
Arkon567 (NA)
: I understand your concerns, although i believe your example is an extreme one. This program would help that trolls victims, and benefit the summoner stepping in. In that extreme condition, it would still be a relief to have a level headed player take his place. Also if the troll left then the feeding would stop. This program is to help people in need that are victims to leavers/DCs. Trolls are going to be around no matter what, this system just dampens their influence. While the temp might not be entering the best of conditions, they are still be rewarded for their time. Given the incentive of rewards most players I've talked with about this, (There's been a lot) have stated they would gladly opt into it. Think about from others perspective, your example becomes reality in your game. You have this toxic, feeding troll in one of your lanes. Games off to a bad start and it feels like a 4v5 uphill battle on ice. The troll decides to leave the game, as you said. A player from this program takes his place, a competent, level headed, player turns this into a 5v5 uphill battle. Of course we cant reverse what the troll did, but it is still fixable. There have always been turn arounds in MOBAs. Would you feel better in a 4v5 after the troll left, or a 5v5 with a non troll teammate ready to help? Yes, i would definitely queue for The Hero Program. I have always wanted to help people in games, whether it be in MOBAs, MMOs, FPS, or even board games. This can be utilized as a great tool for others to do just that. I was hoping you could elaborate on how i would get flamed for taking over. I don't see how i would get flamed for filling in, seeing as how my teammates would know i'm not the original player. I even spoke with a member of Riot on this, and they liked the idea. Saying that they could already hear the announcer say, "A hero has connected!" . As for the community, an unfortunate circumstance. League is known for its community, a lot of us would like to see changes made, and i believe this can spark that change. Thank you for your response and feedback.
I didn't mention the fact that many players who will substitute the guy who is afk will also jump on champions they might haven't even played once. So even if in higher elos this is less than an issue, in lower elos this is so impactful that the tempporary guy might as well be the guy who literally solo lose a game you could win 4v5 (sometimes you can win 4v5 with better macro and comps in lower elos).
Arkon567 (NA)
: Fixing leavers in games, The Hero Program
While this sounds good on paper it could lead to unfun situations and could also start a new trend of "troll" players. Imagine someone who just ints 4-5 kills on purpose putting himself so behind that when the guy who joins temporary can't even walk out of fountain given how useless he is compared to his opponent. Would you queue for something like this? Keep in mind that when you take over the game you might also get flamed instead of the guy who just trolled the game on purpose. I don't think this solution is viable given the fact the community of LoL is just bad.
: > [{quoted}](name=Crystalysk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oPBWFc3E,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-11T17:13:14.472+0000) > > What? > > Kayn is good right now if you can play him. I would say Kayn is good in low elo since you'll actually have time to reach your power spikes. Not to mention people usually won't know how to abuse your weak early game. In high elo however, it's an entirely differently story.
Yeah that's why some high elo players are spamming him getting form in 8-9 minutes and literally hard carrying the game. He is good right now in all elos.
: So, for blue you want to go for a lethality based build, but for the red form you'll be going bruiser, so things like visage, black cleaver, dead man's, steraks, things like that. Overall though, I personally wouldn't recommend Kayn. It takes way too long for him to get going, his early game is quite exploitable, and while his kit is fascinating it can feel pretty underwhelming at times despite all the buffs he's received.
What? Kayn is good right now if you can play him.
vyoda (NA)
: Not a JG main, but some of the most effective Jungers I’ve met didn’t even have to gank that much. Vision control is as if not more important than ganks in early/mid game for a JG. {{item:2055}} Good vision & vision denial can set up objectives as well as keep your laners safe, even when behind.
Until your laners just decide to ignore your pings and have zero map awareness.
Kai Guy (NA)
: Diamond is looks like its an MMR slowdown for K factor far as I can tell, so LP gains might also be lowered to reflect that. From the looks of it, you need something like 1-2 division higher MMR to expect Slanted Gains for your LP if it follows similar patterns to the rest of the ladder. That's my Guess. K factor is a variable in Elo and MMR used for Account uncertainty. It directly impacts your accounts Elo/MMR Points per match gained or lost and traditionally it lowers for 2 reasons. First is # of games, higher data points lower uncertainty. Second is ladder position, higher Tier proves your able to play at that level so it needs to zero in to prevent lucky breaks making dramatic skill gaps. Hope that helps. Do what you enjoy btw. you have chances to climb higher still, it never will lock you out of the ability to climb or sink. It will likely take longer, and even if you do a fresh account there's a very real chance that your just gonna see a slowdown at diamond again due to it likely being a designated location for K factor reduction.
I will keep trying to climb more even though I can barely play a couple games per day. I think it is reasonable gettin less LP when you get promoted to a new division but I also think that going from 22-25 to 15-17 doesn’t sound right in my opinion. Especially if that means You were losing 14-15 per game before. I don’t even want to know how many points i will lose when I lose a game now. This sort of cut will flood d4 with many accounts though. I have seen accounts with 300 games and almost 70% winrate stuck in d4 (not even demoted for inactivity because I check those accounts after the game.). Now I wonder if my early season fucked up my account for S9 and should just wait for next season to climb seriously.
Rioter Comments
Kei143 (NA)
: There is a difference between true new players and people playing on alts like yourself. Match making can detect that you are an experienced player and match you with players with the same experience. Alot of times, those players creating alt accounts are not creating because they want do a 1 trick account like yourself, but rather they got banned for toxicity and hasn't learnt a thing, thus they continue with their toxic ways after creating another account. Good thing is that the noobs won't be seeing much of that.
Games in my alt aren’t full of smurfs, I even made it clear that those things weren’t said to me but to new players.
: I mean, sorry, I made a mistake about one of this 6 champs I don't even play. I was using them as examples that illustrate that junglers with point-and-click CC are a common thing. I could go on with {{champion:77}} , {{champion:106}} , {{champion:56}} ... I mean, sorry again for the mistake, but 1 error on this giant wall of text is understandable. I didn't do research or anything.
> {{champion:19}} : his ult has a kilometric range and he can secure it with the AoE fear of his E. You make it sound like it is op when his ult makes him stand still and any cc interrupts it. And if he can secure it with his fear we could also say that skarner can secure his stun with his R. Both need to get close to their target to do so. > {{champion:254}} : another ult with really good range that also happens to make her IMMUNE TO CC. And after that she is guaranteed to land his Q, a knock-up. Ok, nothing wrong but I wouldn’t be crying over Vi considering she is not even that good right now. > {{champion:5}} : point-and-click dash into a point-and-click knock-up that gives him enough time to walk behind his opponent and Insec him with his ult. Already told you what is wrong here. > {{champion:59}} : point-and-click knock-up and ult. Yes, some champions can jump out of it, but it is still a really powerful tool. Point and click knock up is extremely wrong since J4 combo is one of the easiest to side step. > {{champion:164}} : her E lets her hover half the map and her ult is Jarvan's ult ON STEROIDS. COME ON, YOU CAN'T EVEN FLASH OUT. Her ult is not J4 ult on steroids since it doesn’t have the big aoe damage on it. And something that prevents champions like Ezreal or Kassadin or Ekko to kite your team all game is welcome. > {{champion:120}} : his ult is near instant and can be easily chained to an Insec with his E. You can easily Insec people without your ult, its just an additional tool. Did I mention that his ult makes him invulnerable? CAUSE IT FREAKIN DOES. Again wrong, his ult doesn’t make him invulnerable, it just makes him unstoppable and even then J4 ult stops his R (not sure if intended or not)
: I would be glad if a rioter answers me this. Why do you refuse to give Skarner actual damage?
> [{quoted}](name=FrancisMuni,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=I7lHt3Ix,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-09T17:30:00.378+0000) > > * {{champion:5}} : point-and-click dash into a point-and-click knock-up that gives him enough time to walk behind his opponent and Insec him with his ult. I guess you don't know Xin Zhao cannot "insec" the target he already challenged in a fight. This sort of things make your post lose credibility.
Rioter Comments
: sooo evelynn nerfs when?
Yeah, nerf the only ap jungler that is slightly viable... Just because people can’t play against her it doesn’t make her op
Barkley (NA)
: well hey man, congratulations on never being in a game ever where your non-carry jungle is taking every kill and you're in a losing lane. Happy for you.
Dude if i'm playing an assassin, which i usually do since tanks are bad and you can assassinate anyone in this meta, i'm not letting you get any kill because i know 100% i can carry any game as {{champion:28}} (unless people have no clue how to play with her in team). If i kill your opponent you are still getting gold from assist and still getting exp advantage. I had to stop playing Jarvan because i used to play him tank and give kills away and then watch my team waste the lead i gave to them sacrificing my exp and gold. You could also become a better player at last hitting champions too.
: > [{quoted}](name=Crystalysk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4iTsOc9M,comment-id=00010000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-07T19:47:13.990+0000) > > Do you understand that the 5% you are cutting out is probably worth something like a 6-7 digits number of dollars in the future? Which would be far less than the 10-15% of customers they'd likely already lost over this issue, and the 10-15% to come.
Yeah, but binding an account to a personal document it would make sure you keep both the new players and the players who are quitting because of smurfs. I have never said smurfs aren't a problem but i just think binding to a credit card is less efficient than binding to something else that is accessible to more people.
: people will defend unbalanced cancer like {{champion:238}} to the death for no reason, I guess those people like unfun and unbalanced gameplay? i dont understand people and their obsession with 1-shot burst, it just makes the game stale and brainless
I am not defending Zed, but I am also not defending someone like OP who straight lied about everything he said.
: > [{quoted}](name=Crystalysk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4iTsOc9M,comment-id=000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-07T14:46:58.294+0000) > > But they could become paying customers in the future? > > Damn your comment is so ignorant that i wasn't even going to reply at the beginning but then i realized you probably believe in what you typed. > > Did you install LoL because you wanted to try the game or did you install the game just to purchase something? > I don't think any player would install LoL just to buy a skin. > > You start playing and if the game hooks you, you may start supporting it purchasing their stuff. > > Every missed player is potential profit lost. I usually buy something within the first 24h of a new game, or I stop playing it. Either it's worth putting money into. Or it isn't. Also League is a damn decade old now. There aren't a lot of new players coming in. 95% of new accounts are either people that were banned, or smurfs. Or Chinese account farmers leveling accounts to sell.
Do you understand that the 5% you are cutting out is probably worth something like a 6-7 digits number of dollars in the future?
: > [{quoted}](name=Feel Apathy,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pfEiskfA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-07T10:39:33.905+0000) > > Kai'sa's better in every single way. Can you give examples? And which one is more aggressive?
Lucian is more aggressive but if you lose lane be ready to become a useless ward for the rest of the game. Lucian works well with supports who can make him snowball and have great all in potential. On the other hand Kai'sa isn't very strong early game but she isn't that weak either if played properly. When she hits 6 she has more outplay potential than Lucian in my opinion and of course better late game. Last but not less important she has more versatility because she has hybrid scalings. I would take a Kai'sa over Lucian in my team any game.
: > [{quoted}](name=Crystalysk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4iTsOc9M,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-06T14:51:24.866+0000) > > Then a lot of kids would not be able to play because they obviously don’t own a credit card. Maybe just bind it to a personal document like an identity card? Everyone must have one. Who cares? They aren't paying customers anyway.
But they could become paying customers in the future? Damn your comment is so ignorant that i wasn't even going to reply at the beginning but then i realized you probably believe in what you typed. Did you install LoL because you wanted to try the game or did you install the game just to purchase something? I don't think any player would install LoL just to buy a skin. You start playing and if the game hooks you, you may start supporting it purchasing their stuff. Every missed player is potential profit lost.
: Have you guys seen qiyanna's win rate? yikes!
I don't know, she is just hit or miss from what i've seen in normal games. So i think if there are people who are even carrying with her, winrate being so low is probably because people still don't know how to play her. I would not recommend any buffs for now, lets just wait a little bit more instead of put stupid numbers on her kit.
: Yikes, OP lied about a lot of shit there didn't he? "I had seekers and landed my passive!" - Both blatant lies. Even lied about the number of swords he had.
Even said he died to E and auto when Zed hits a shuriken too, and lets not forget ignite and electrocute.
Nymph0 (NA)
: She used to be good, rework made her unplayable. just play literally any other ap jungler and youll do better guaranteed.
Evelynn is currently one if not the only available Ap jungler, she is fairly strong in this meta where tanks suck and are her main counters. Just ban Sejuani and you can deal with any other jungler just fine.
: Snowballing should be something that is achieved
: Diamond promos is f**king cancer
I’ve got to d4 with just 1 promo and stopped playing after my lp gain went from 22-23 to 16~ Just because I joined d4, no point in playing ranked anymore. Now ask yourself what’s more cancer between those 2 things
: I agree with this statement. Forcing players to tie credit cards to their account, and preventing accounts from being created without a credit card number reduces the smurfs to a level that would be acceptable. I also think that Riot games needs to get a kick in the ass frankly. Their support team is sloppy. they don't have a phone number to call? What and why? The fact that they don't allow live support for issues is ridiculous and is actively something I ridicule about them and their company.
Then a lot of kids would not be able to play because they obviously don’t own a credit card. Maybe just bind it to a personal document like an identity card? Everyone must have one.
: crap! So i was right...then since my friends are free i'll play some normals until september You made me think that i alwaya touched higher ranks from November to March xD
When schools open again remember not to play on Saturday and Sunday. Other than that, always pick your best role and the champions you have better win rate with.
l MrD l (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Crystalysk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lNjAeuKB,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-04T20:07:22.721+0000) > > I feel like this is just a Lux rant. seems like it but nah its just comparing the 2 cos she was in the game at the time ... i know i cnat really compare cos tehyre diffrent but i sorta feel the need to make a point with this comparison as syndra is a burst mage like lux but lux is simpler and offers shielding as well. I know lux is getting nerfed so thats not my point today just mainly about syndra :)
Syndra is not good right now but not that trash like you think either. Her R isn't a tool to just finish off someone, it offers more. It provides her a load of balls that she can E to find massive stuns in a fight. I have seen a lot of Syndra players holding on R and still have it after a fight because they just use it for kills while they could have changed the entire fight. People instead just use Q and E missing the stun on 1 guy most of the times. I played Syndra a little ago and i think she can lane just fine and still bully some mid laners. Of course she has seen better days but she can still perform well in the right match up and/or right hands. Her damage is gated by her passive and people seem to not understand that. And btw she can still blow a squiscy from 100% to 20% hp with just Q and E late game.
Laura ß (NA)
: Tell me 1 reason why I should pick nidalee over the other junglers
You only pick her if you have fun playing her.
l MrD l (NA)
: Just played syndra?
I feel like this is just a Lux rant.
Juikhex (EUW)
: Laning against VelKoz as an melee is the most unfun experience ever
That feeling when someone makes a thread and proceed to downvote it himself
: I used to have that same bias against Yasuo, before they finally fixed his windwall to be about prediction instead of reaction. - One autoattack with over half the champs in the game are ranged attacks that you can safely throw to break his shield. If he windwalls that auto, that's a long ass cooldown just to preserve his passive shield, which you can just break in about 5s when the wall drops with the same relative safety. His passive is definitely more annoying when playing melee though. Either way, as a ranged champion, you can keep your distance extremely well, so it really shouldn't be much of an issue. - What is counter play to you, if not the most efficient method of handling the situation? Poke out his shield with something ranged (or force his wall), hit him in the face with cc if he tries to engage on you, and don't let him jumping at you intimidate you, and he usually dies pretty fast. I can tell you cc destroys him, because it does. I can also tell you that your definition of counter play and the actual definition of counter play are two different things. - Logically speaking, *every* matchup is a skill matchup. But where Irelia and Yasuo are largely even statistically, Annie and Yasuo favors Annie in by a 20% margin. On the flip side of your example, Annie can easily handle the windwall by just baiting the wall, or by dropping Tibbers at the start, who doesn't give a shit about the wall, and just walking point blank up to him during the stun on the other side of the wall and nuking him. - You're asking this question almost out of desperation, and you know it...Annie is *one* example of a Yasuo counterpick, that I used to highlight what was meant by a counter pick, not even to say "just use this to beat Yasuo." So not only are you taking me out of context, you're also completely deflecting the entire argument before the argument is even made. Now that you're asking though, of course not. If you're wanting a few more examples of people Yasuo players get frustrated by, you can try some of the one's below, but there are plenty of more even matchups against him too. Just to name a few decent counters: {{champion:1}} (about 70%WR) {{champion:131}} (about 60%WR) {{champion:245}} (about 63%WR) {{champion:127}} (about 65%WR) {{champion:90}} (about 67%WR) {{champion:111}} (about 61%WR, but this was probably off the "AP Mid Naut" that's since been nerfed, so idk about this one anymore) {{champion:106}} (About a 58%WR) And as I said, there are plenty of skill matchups, that I'm not even going to bother listing, that are all between 45-55% against him.
I'm just an average Yasuo player and only play him in normal games and Flex since i main jungle but i find {{champion:1}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:127}} some of the easiest match ups for Yasuo. Maybe it's just me but that list doesn't seem true. Where did you get those %?
OwlShaSi (NA)
: I used to agree on a lot of points until recently. Xerath CAN instantly clear a wave with 2 low mana cost abilities, and Sylas is in the healthiest position with near non existant costs but an aoe attack anytime he uses an ability (one of which is a massive aoe already). Considering these are the two most frequent opponents I go up against next to Yasuo, another wave clear champion who can do so quickly with no cost, how does it work that after 2 waves if we're actively trying to push with Sol we're mana less. Urgot W mana costs gradually go down until they're null, and he can reactivate it instantly, I think Sol deserves an equal buff on par with what they gave Urgot.
Xerath's Q costs 80 mana at level 1. He has around 450 mana at the beginning, i can't see it being cheap lol. Everything is different when he gets lost chapter, but everyone can purchase it.
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: Things you wish you knew about your role
As a jungle main, **I wish I knew i was going to get all the blame when someone dies 1 vs 1.** I would probably have focused on something else, altough jungle fits my play style. I can't play any lane because i play way to aggro and can't stand people who just sit at tower so i force too much. As a jungle main when i play mid versus something like {{champion:161}} or other squiscy targets it frustrates me when my jungler doesn't come and dive them level 2. So, to all junglers that don't know it, **please (if you can execute it properly) tower dive immobile champs that play ultra safe. Don't ignore it, diving is super powerful and gets you ahead better than a gank setted up at your towers**.
: imo (especially for lower elos) a mid laner (or a hardcarry top) as you have the least reliance on your teammates. If you mean for soloq at least. I onetrick {{champion:161}} and it goes pretty well.
I stopped playing Vel koz unless I get filled mid because you just get dove level 2 almost every game
: That's not true though... And you building wrong has no effect on the trends.
So, the result of me building wrong is me having 67% and 76% win rate on my two main champions in solo queue. I guess I’ll keep building wrong then.
: Pretty much every match-up now. Though they usually finish Oblivion Orb and Sorc shoes first, right after their core item. The magic pen makes it no longer a niche item, since that on top of sorc shoes makes you completely negate all the MR of any ranged target.
If you don’t need the grievous wound passive, morello is a really bad buy. People just sit on the oblivion orb most of the times and finish it later in the game after they got all their core items. I sometimes even sell my oblivion orb for better items later in the game.
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