: > [{quoted}](name=CudyDarkyz,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mLbAjEof,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-09-09T16:42:53.909+0000) > > tbh it looks more like how to go even with zed and have your team win then beating him yourself. it looks like VI did a lot of the heavy lifting with Darius scaling in the background. About half your kills are gotten, after your team was 10k ahead. The only adc the enemy team had was a twitch who gave a double kill in a early gank from what i can tell. > Zed Was 0/4 in lane by the time the lane ended. If you check i dealt 23k dmg while also shielding 12k dmg off my team. Allowing my vi and darius to survive and fight a lot longer. See the thing is you cant just look at raw dmg dealt and see who carried and who didnt. The vi and darius played well i wont say they didnt, but the fact that you're trying to take away from a perfect kda saying 10/0/14 is "going even" with a 7/9 is just an illogical argument. > as for the zed being a good zed mastery does not matter i have something like 90,000 on tank top Ashe where i first buy Black clever and go tank/cdr items. > The highest score Taliyah player has over 5 mil and last i saw was bronze with a horrid winrate. > His winrate is high due to him barely having any games and if you look at the few games you can see he almost always has someone mega fed with him. > "also if you look to last season he has a winrate of 42%" > Oh so the zed player actually has to play well to play well to do good in matchup he counters? That was the entire point of the post. Im not saying zed cant win the matchup, but it is possible to do well against him. I mean it wasnt to say he's a god zed just to say that he knew how to win on zed and had a decent kda over a 10 games on the champion. And bringing up his past rank is pointless. Yassuo was bronze in like season 4 does that mean he's still bronze now? > For his KDA being pretty good its more then likely due to him playing a assassin and doing the "Rengar method" where you pick 1 target who you kill the fastest like a adc support mid without hourglass and jump in 1v5 dump your kit on them and they die then maybe escape or die "mostly die" it's also why his deaths are so high 14.0 / 8.1 / 10.4 is his average that's a lot of deaths. > He also has 2 kills less than double the average kills zed gets and double the assists zed averages, so i dont see how you can only take into consideration his deaths. He puts in more work than his other zed players in that elo. > Final for what you picked in runes and itemization. > > What champion changes zeds? > > What does Zed change when you pick lux or annie or talon or kayle or hell even something dumb like zac mid? > at best you get him to MAYBE buy a QSS if you go Malz or lissandra. and he will swap his one MR rune to a Armor rune. > he CAN buy a hexdrinker but from the stat site i use op.gg its one of his least winrate items along with other component items. > > All of that is optional to him. > You mean how does have to alter his build when HE gets counterpicked? Well for starters you already pointed out QSS against lissandra. Hexdrinker is a must against champions like diana and possibly annie as well. So his build does change. Now if you're trying to make the argument that lux needs to make more changes, that isnt the case. I run barrier everytime i play mages. Ignite isnt worth it because you'll rarely be in lane. TP is pointless after laning phase because you wont be split pushing as a mage. Exhaust is always another possible option but i feel barrier does me more good since it can still protect me from multiple targets rather than just exhausting one while the other still does full dmg onto me. So really the only changes to the build are taking the 1 armor rune extra, and the resolve tree for bone plating. Now itemizing is only itemizing defensively because you're against the lane bully. Thats like saying why would a melee champ rush tabis against vayne top? Because shes a lane bully in that lane. Much like most assassins are against mages because they have the stronger early game. Why take doran's shield on champions like ezreal and vayne in bot lane? Especially against a champion like cait because again theyre against the more dominant laner. This is just common sense. > But for the inverse what is consider mandatory for mage's "for the most part" > if you don't change your runes too revitalize bone plating and buy hourglass first and maybe throw in armor boots and maybe even play a champ that is a counter to him you lose all right to complain about him. > > Don't you think that's kinda dumb where just seeing zed picked not even it being a good zed just the fact that Zed is in the game means your first item secondary rune tree and stat runes are locked in for you due to Zed just being IN the game. > This isnt true at all tho. This is your assumption. My build is one way to take advantage of zed when you're terrible at lux like i am. You're basically saying "is it fair that i have to be zoned from my minion wave because the enemy laner picked someone stronger than my champion" and id say yes it is fair. You picked a champ who's weaker in the early game now you need to suffer during that weaker early game to make it to the point where you're stronger and he then needs to suffer for picking an early game champ. I've said this 1000 times on the boards. if you pick a late game champ dont cry about your weak early game. Vice versa is also true. Yet for some reason this is the argument most mage players want to make. They want to have a strong laning phase while also being the dominant of the 2 classes in teamfights and late game. That's terrible balance design. I went off on a tangent and what i mean is you couldve just as easily took the same runes with biscuits and stopwatch or cosmic insight and bought rushed hourglass and ignored lost chapter. Tabis + Seekers would work as well. Theres many ways to play out the lane for the mages. For example into yasuo i would go tabis + seekers because he's auto based. Just because low elo players dont change their runes for their matchup doesnt mean the correct way of playing is always applying one rune set up to every matchup. > The only other champion's i can think of that does something CLOSE to that is malzahar and mordekaiser where they make you get a QSS sometime in the game if they target you a lot. > Speaking of malz. Going first item QSS is terrible since it provides no dmg stats, and for an assassin it removes his possibly snowball potential and pretty much denies him the weak early game. So if an assassin doesnt buy qss he loses the 1v1 if he does he cant do any dmg and still loses the 1v1. So the case you're trying to make isnt even awarded to assassin players when they get counter picked. The dangers of playing an early game champ and getting countered in a nutshell. > > But hey what do i know i'm not a pro i'm just someone who like playing clown meta and i don't even thin zed is strong his teamfighting is trash and the only poke he has in lane burns his mobility. He almost like tahm kench top. how he warps the whole lane around him just by being him. not very good can't do to much but you dare try to touch him before the 15 min mark. > > He just feels unfair. > he feels perfectly fair to me. Idk why you want to touch him when you scale much better than he does and you dont have lethal on him anyways. > > Also you were a full division ahead of him and he barely plays at all now. Full division ahead or not the point was its possible to beat a zed if you're playing well enough.
> [{quoted}](name=Chainman3,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mLbAjEof,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-09-09T18:19:59.828+0000) > > Zed Was 0/4 in lane by the time the lane ended. If you check i dealt 23k dmg while also shielding 12k dmg off my team. Allowing my vi and darius to survive and fight a lot longer. See the thing is you cant just look at raw dmg dealt and see who carried and who didnt. The vi and darius played well i wont say they didnt, but the fact that you're trying to take away from a perfect kda saying 10/0/14 is "going even" with a 7/9 is just an illogical argument. > Atleast 2 of those had Vi involved. You did 23k dmg to a enemy team that had its legs broken by Vi and Darius. as for shielding i can't tell the stat is not there or i can't find it in the link but if it matters darius with just his q healing out mitigated your shield that can hit 5 people twice. score doesn't matter gold does its why being called a KDA player is a bad thing. > Oh so the zed player actually has to play well to play well to do good in matchup he counters? That was the entire point of the post. Im not saying zed cant win the matchup, but it is possible to do well against him. I mean it wasnt to say he's a god zed just to say that he knew how to win on zed and had a decent kda over a 10 games on the champion. And bringing up his past rank is pointless. Yassuo was bronze in like season 4 does that mean he's still bronze now? > The few Lux and zed players i know including me see Lux as a zed counter. The way you phase "This was a 100k mastery point mastery 7 zed with a 70% winrate on zed and a 3.0 KDA." really looked like you were saying zed masta. Its possible to do well in any match given the players. 10 games is to small a sample size. season 4 was 5 seasons ago and Moe has shown improvement season 8 was last year and the zed has had very samey stats for the past 3 seasons with little sign of improvement he is still the same rank somewhat with a fews up "mainly due to season 9" i mean i normally sit around gold 2-1 but now i'm plat. > He also has 2 kills less than double the average kills zed gets and double the assists zed averages, so i dont see how you can only take into consideration his deaths. He puts in more work than his other zed players in that elo. > If you can provide me a link to see that i'd appreciate that. sense i can not find that. > You mean how does have to alter his build when HE gets counterpicked? Well for starters you already pointed out QSS against lissandra. Hexdrinker is a must against champions like diana and possibly annie as well. So his build does change. Now if you're trying to make the argument that lux needs to make more changes, that isnt the case. I run barrier everytime i play mages. Ignite isnt worth it because you'll rarely be in lane. TP is pointless after laning phase because you wont be split pushing as a mage. Exhaust is always another possible option but i feel barrier does me more good since it can still protect me from multiple targets rather than just exhausting one while the other still does full dmg onto me. So really the only changes to the build are taking the 1 armor rune extra, and the resolve tree for bone plating. Now itemizing is only itemizing defensively because you're against the lane bully. Thats like saying why would a melee champ rush tabis against vayne top? Because shes a lane bully in that lane. Much like most assassins are against mages because they have the stronger early game. Why take doran's shield on champions like ezreal and vayne in bot lane? Especially against a champion like cait because again theyre against the more dominant laner. This is just common sense. > Does he get removed from the lane if he doesn't get QSS first item? He doesn't NEED hexdrinker into the diana match up. Annie pretty up in the air tho due to not being played. I was not talking about needing to change more to counter him but thanks for adding in a change of summoner spell tho other champs can make that a change as well like a Zoe or Elise. A lane bully that forces a rune change a component into a full item change "note how tabis are 1100g and are boots and doran shield being a starting item at 450g" that has his winrate go up with game length. I mean think about if a adc Forced 80% of the adc roaster to first buy a GA as there first buy. > This isnt true at all tho. This is your assumption. My build is one way to take advantage of zed when you're terrible at lux like i am. You're basically saying "is it fair that i have to be zoned from my minion wave because the enemy laner picked someone stronger than my champion" and id say yes it is fair. You picked a champ who's weaker in the early game now you need to suffer during that weaker early game to make it to the point where you're stronger and he then needs to suffer for picking an early game champ. I've said this 1000 times on the boards. if you pick a late game champ dont cry about your weak early game. Vice versa is also true. Yet for some reason this is the argument most mage players want to make. They want to have a strong laning phase while also being the dominant of the 2 classes in teamfights and late game. That's terrible balance design. > Again zed's winrate is HIGHER then lux's at post 25 mins tho this might be due to lux being terrible in winrate and zed always getting early kills to snowball numbers be lame a lot of the time. > I went off on a tangent and what i mean is you couldve just as easily took the same runes with biscuits and stopwatch or cosmic insight and bought rushed hourglass and ignored lost chapter. Tabis + Seekers would work as well. Theres many ways to play out the lane for the mages. For example into yasuo i would go tabis + seekers because he's auto based. Just because low elo players dont change their runes for their matchup doesnt mean the correct way of playing is always applying one rune set up to every matchup. > If you mean the Glacial Augment build i see that more as giving up entirely and become a auxiliary support. As for the yasuo part his combo is heavily skillshot based so i feel hourglass is not mandatory into him unlike zed who can r-aa-e "if you didn't know apparently at low ping you can aa-e while still being untargetable from your r" throw one q more then likely hit it due to point blank range and kill/force a recall. not even factoring in w with the second Q or even the r shadow q. with yasuo he never becomes untargetable so if he wants to do his point and click knock up you have plenty of chances to stop it. My issue is i want to play this champion the way i like in my normal fun clown games but the zed player wants to play his zed game and his zed game gets almost full priority over the game while mine gets him to MAYBE get a hexdrinker. > Speaking of malz. Going first item QSS is terrible since it provides no dmg stats, and for an assassin it removes his possibly snowball potential and pretty much denies him the weak early game. So if an assassin doesnt buy qss he loses the 1v1 if he does he cant do any dmg and still loses the 1v1. So the case you're trying to make isnt even awarded to assassin players when they get counter picked. The dangers of playing an early game champ and getting countered in a nutshell. > i was never speaking about assassin's as a class i was speaking more in line with Zed. Zed is designed to not need a crutch item like that malz with r can't just walk up to zeds caster wave at lvl 6 and say no no no you afk at tower now me farm. malz has no way to force a engage onto zed besides flash R so the only way the 1v1 zed loses happens is if zed says to do the 1v1. Just look at how insanely overpowered hourglass is and you need it to even lane into zed "unless you have no buttons" > he feels perfectly fair to me. Idk why you want to touch him when you scale much better than he does and you dont have lethal on him anyways. > And a lot more people think hes broken. I again personally think hes fine in power just unfair. > Full division ahead or not the point was its possible to beat a zed if you're playing well enough. In that case sure i can beat zed in bots and on my OCE account. it just seem the way your framing it is that zed is ALWAYS the weaker party and can only win games if players make glaring mistakes.
: How to lane as Lux against Zed and win
tbh it looks more like how to go even with zed and have your team win then beating him yourself. it looks like VI did a lot of the heavy lifting with Darius scaling in the background. About half your kills are gotten, after your team was 10k ahead. The only adc the enemy team had was a twitch who gave a double kill in a early gank from what i can tell. as for the zed being a good zed mastery does not matter i have something like 90,000 on tank top Ashe where i first buy Black clever and go tank/cdr items. The highest score Taliyah player has over 5 mil and last i saw was bronze with a horrid winrate. His winrate is high due to him barely having any games and if you look at the few games you can see he almost always has someone mega fed with him. "also if you look to last season he has a winrate of 42%" For his KDA being pretty good its more then likely due to him playing a assassin and doing the "Rengar method" where you pick 1 target who you kill the fastest like a adc support mid without hourglass and jump in 1v5 dump your kit on them and they die then maybe escape or die "mostly die" it's also why his deaths are so high 14.0 / 8.1 / 10.4 is his average that's a lot of deaths. Final for what you picked in runes and itemization. What champion changes zeds? What does Zed change when you pick lux or annie or talon or kayle or hell even something dumb like zac mid? at best you get him to MAYBE buy a QSS if you go Malz or lissandra. and he will swap his one MR rune to a Armor rune. he CAN buy a hexdrinker but from the stat site i use op.gg its one of his least winrate items along with other component items. All of that is optional to him. But for the inverse what is consider mandatory for mage's "for the most part" if you don't change your runes too revitalize bone plating and buy hourglass first and maybe throw in armor boots and maybe even play a champ that is a counter to him you lose all right to complain about him. Don't you think that's kinda dumb where just seeing zed picked not even it being a good zed just the fact that Zed is in the game means your first item secondary rune tree and stat runes are locked in for you due to Zed just being IN the game. The only other champion's i can think of that does something CLOSE to that is malzahar and mordekaiser where they make you get a QSS sometime in the game if they target you a lot. But hey what do i know i'm not a pro i'm just someone who like playing clown meta and i don't even thin zed is strong his teamfighting is trash and the only poke he has in lane burns his mobility. He almost like tahm kench top. how he warps the whole lane around him just by being him. not very good can't do to much but you dare try to touch him before the 15 min mark. He just feels unfair. Also you were a full division ahead of him and he barely plays at all now.
: In its current state, I see League of Legends as decent and fairly enjoyable, especially with friends. But comparing it to past seasons (season 6 for me, when I first started playing, although that might just be nostalgia talking), and looking at its potential, it could be SO much better.
> [{quoted}](name=Helixarrow,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=y5AwNszU,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-09-07T02:28:12.820+0000) > > In its current state, I see League of Legends as decent and fairly enjoyable, especially with friends. But comparing it to past seasons (season 6 for me, when I first started playing, although that might just be nostalgia talking), and looking at its potential, it could be SO much better. As someone from Beta/start of season 1ish season 6 was my favorite with 8 and 9 being by far the worst.
Kenneky (EUW)
: {{champion:99}} {{champion:25}} You want to move? Ha ha, NOT HAPPENING. I legit had a game against such Bot lane, you either need {{item:3111}} or {{item:3140}} If you don't want do die in less than a millennium. Here is another one I tried with my friend. {{champion:555}} {{champion:82}} Mordekaiser ults the ADC and fight him while Pyke fight the support making it 1v1 for both of them, It's was quite fun not gonna lie.
I found neeko works better then lux in that group due to neeko e going threw minions and being just as long as morgana snare c: not to mention the morg ult cc into the neeko ult cc.
duje (EUNE)
: Aurelion sol rework is so bad
Hello fellow pre-control mage! {{champion:163}}
Rockman (NA)
: its because they have to actually skillshot a q
> [{quoted}](name=Rockman,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=HJeO6q2f,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-27T03:28:04.703+0000) > > its because they have to actually skillshot a q A skillshot that does less damage then the point and click version unless you have a passive stack and it doesn't hit a minion. or how it has double the cdr unless you use it melee or how his e does less damage then a auto attack unless you land the slam after you channel it for the full 1.5 or how everything about his ult was nerfed. mine you he was called a bad champion before this. they made him harder to play and to compensate for that they nerfed his numbers? i'd guess a skillshot that is semi blockable do more damage then a point and click low cd spell but i guess not.
Wen294 (EUW)
: Oh is that what it stands for, I thought it was something like "Players Under Gold"
I always assumed it stood for Public.
: > [{quoted}](name=KazKaz,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EqAyJEp5,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-21T16:22:40.770+0000) > This item never deserved to be let loose onto Summoner's Rift, it needs to be vaulted. LMAO. Please do not pretend to know better than Riot if you use Fortnite terminology regarding League.
Hell even league used the term Vaulted for skins. and i'm guessing the first use of the word in that way was made by disney.
: Oh mb, I thought it was a shorter range. But I had heard that the new one was quicker and more reliable for getting the damage off, but with less overall damage.
People only say its quicker because he shows up faster "start of the slide" but hes locked into the drop for 0.5 longer then before and his ult is smaller due to the circle at the end being like pretty small compared to old one but he comes with the slide part. also threw removed the slow from it too new panths is a nerfed old panth besides his e shield thing and q being longer range and SLIGHTLY more damage if you throw it and don't hit anything but the target. oh and i guess the e slam thing but i think his old e did more damage even with the new one having that.
: I mostly agree, and while morde's kit in isolation is cool, I have to admit that his ult can be unfair if you can't afford to put QSS in your build, and if he's ahead. However, I don't think that Panth's kit with the new directional invulnerability is so bad. It can be counterplayed without needing insane mobility, and he does so little damage in the duration of that ability. Plus it gives him interesting new choices. On the other hand, he doesn't really have significantly more mobility than before, as he already had a jump, and his ult was similar, but MUCH slower and harder to land, except with better range I believe.
New panth ult is slower "kinda smaller" but has the same range as old one!
Pika Fox (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Son of spartar,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EEVsMjOy,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-14T23:11:01.874+0000) > > The whole champ needs another rework, i want my old 9yrs of panth back. The ult is next level shit, i mean worse then the old one. Like the only reason i still play this shit was because of panth, but they even managed to fuck that up. So its time i think i parted way. Sad really. The ult is all around better. The channel time is lower, making ganks more reliable, enemies get less of an indicator to dodge, meaning more likely to hit. So its more likely to hit and even if you miss more likely to get a successful gank.
The channel time is longer? new panth is 2 second leap into 2.5 second drop old was 2 into 2 the circle is also smaller unless you count the whole slide in bit so id say about even. it doesn't slow any more and does less damage and has a higher cooldown. new pantheon ult only has the slide part and that it stacks his passive. you can even say old panths combo was to r into a fight and w while untargetable to get the passive but that still 2 spells. New pantheon ult while looking cooler and is fun to use is a substantially worse version of old panths ult.
: Nexus Blitz had so much potential. As did clash. It's a damn shame both were let go so easily
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=FdcmWrlF,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-11T18:41:19.226+0000) > As did clash. Don't ya mean Crash!
Kayloola (NA)
: Struggling Earning an S or S+ for ADC
don't know if this still works but duo bot but you que as support and have the duo be adc and just swap and it will compare your adc stats to the support version on it.
Rioter Comments
: You got a clip of this happening? Also why did you have conqueror anyways? You barely managed to proc it with your last ability cast on him and it's meant for sustained fights, which assassins generally actively avoid, rather than the burst which would have done something.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xI4NVWUY,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-07T06:26:50.860+0000) > > You got a clip of this happening? > > Also why did you have conqueror anyways? You barely managed to proc it with your last ability cast on him and it's meant for sustained fights, which assassins generally actively avoid, rather than the burst which would have done something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ILd68BWuMg&feature=youtu.be rip
: Uhhh wtf is Zed?
It to bad that about 95% of the things you said are false after looking over the replay. You are both at 70%ish not full hp. His W was on cd but he did hit you with a Q and he is at half energy. The fight is at lvl 6/7 "Zed is lvl 7" the items are you with a {{item:1036}} {{item:1029}} and him with a {{item:3134}} . You do not q-e-w-auto you E-W-R. He ults while your useing your ult dodging most of it, but his combo isnt r-aa-e-aa its r-e-aa-q. His W does not come back up it still halfway on cooldown after the end of the fight. You did not E to a minion and id say the deathmark wasn't even needed to kill you because of the ignite. you did not have 90 armor you had 69. And if you mean a fight that happened at level 10 hate to say this but there wasn't one from lvl 10-11 zed wasn't even on your screen. also how do you get to lvl 10 with only 2 long swords and a seekers same for zed? pretty sure you can get more then that by afking to the same time? LINK-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ILd68BWuMg&feature=youtu.be
: I can handle Dashes easier than movespeed buffs. Trying to hit skillshots on someone running with 500+MS is hell.
> [{quoted}](name=2Charmnot2Charm,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=GgbNqUAr,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-25T14:47:02.139+0000) > > I can handle Dashes easier than movespeed buffs. > > Trying to hit skillshots on someone running with 500+MS is hell. https://imgur.com/gallery/f7FdEdG
Tihealy (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CudyDarkyz,realm=EUW,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=Eq5ftOjK,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-23T08:36:38.239+0000) > > and beta tests are to find bugs/glitches of a product near perfection {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} If only all game could be near perfection ...
> [{quoted}](name=Tihealy,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=Eq5ftOjK,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T08:03:14.084+0000) > > {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} If only all game could be near perfection ... perfection in that context meaning ready for release.
: Dude. That's not "an lpp account with access to new game mode at that." it's PBE. You can have that too.
> [{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=oZcTLl7K,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-23T20:50:25.389+0000) > > Dude. That's not "an lpp account with access to new game mode at that." it's PBE. You can have that too. lpp pbe accounts skip que times.
Tihealy (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CudyDarkyz,realm=EUW,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=Eq5ftOjK,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-22T06:03:55.956+0000) > > you do know it comes out on live next patch and they asked for stuff we want changed with it right? you do know at this actual moment, it still in beta right?
> [{quoted}](name=Tihealy,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=Eq5ftOjK,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-23T05:47:08.903+0000) > > you do know at this actual moment, it still in beta right? and beta tests are to find bugs/glitches of a product near perfection, you also missed the part where they ASKED US what we WANT CHANGED.
: 1300 gold tax just to play the game? what a fucking joke
> [{quoted}](name=i got the stacks,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=A8P9lyjj,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-22T14:38:04.494+0000) > > 1300 gold tax just to play the game? what a fucking joke doesn't zed already come with a 1100-2900 tax tho?
: let us use skins in tft
Skins are used for different unit types from the looks of it, like how graves use's the pirate skin and is part of the pirate tribe or how vayne is arch-light to look more in line with the noble tribe.
Tihealy (NA)
: The game is still in ALPHA or maybe it's in BETA. IT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE! People like you that expect non-finished game as if they were finished make me sick.
> [{quoted}](name=Tihealy,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=Eq5ftOjK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-22T05:03:14.850+0000) > > The game is still in ALPHA or maybe it's in BETA. IT'S SUBJECT TO CHANGE! > > People like you that expect non-finished game as if they were finished make me sick. you do know it comes out on live next patch and they asked for stuff we want changed with it right?
: It shouldn't be this way on live. There may be a slight delay logging in, but nothing like this, I think. Tbh, many people are gonna get it out of their systems now. The people who need to play it RIGHT AWAY are already doing so, and some will burn out on it before it hits live. That, and the live servers are way more prepared to handle traffic. This is probably the first time PBE has *ever* seen this kind of traffic.
> [{quoted}](name=KnightsKemplar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kNNzl4jK,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-21T18:31:35.856+0000) > > It shouldn't be this way on live. There may be a slight delay logging in, but nothing like this, I think. > > Tbh, many people are gonna get it out of their systems now. The people who need to play it RIGHT AWAY are already doing so, and some will burn out on it before it hits live. That, and the live servers are way more prepared to handle traffic. This is probably the first time PBE has *ever* seen this kind of traffic. Also remember there is only 1 PBE compared to like the 12-15 servers.
: Is it just me or does it seem like streamers arent having a hard time playing but yet we have 4 hour queue waits....
> [{quoted}](name=X Lunis X,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=GzjUsVsE,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-20T23:35:33.870+0000) > > Is it just me or does it seem like streamers arent having a hard time playing but yet we have 4 hour queue waits.... Streams get whitelisted so they can skip the que.
: Ryze is no longer a Battlemage, but a DPS mages
{{champion:163}} was a control mage that is now labeled a battlemage that is really a burst mage.
: What noob mistakes did you make starting out?
In season one me and my friend played {{champion:14}} {{champion:23}} bot lane and we ONLY whent bot we were basicly super minions normal games for us was we both whent 0/14 but we kept going down botlane building full ad/attack speed and we won alot just from mindlessly pushing botlane into there nexus.
: ***
in the new game mode theres a item called the golden spatula if you combine it with another golden spatula the item it gives makes it so the champ with it isn't count towards the cap. Edit- heres a link to all the item combos and champ combos. https://imgur.com/a/S11Jhyn
Rioter Comments
: What is your honor level, and how did you get there?
honor 4 check point 0 I just play really it seems the only thing you need to do is not flame in chat.
Bultz (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sunlight Blade,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=7dV5owvW,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-12T18:54:21.035+0000) > > Really curious, because out of all the champions who would fit the theme 100x better ... {{champion:421}} {{champion:136}} {{champion:101}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:72}} you pick the _**fucking human**_, the samurai with a sword as a BATTLE BOSS??? > > Cash grabs ruin everything. Riot needs an easy skin to sell bruh. Yasuo is it. I don't very much like the skin for yasuo, but as a Yasuo main I buy all of the skins plus chromas on principle of it being my main and my favorite champion. A lot of Yasuo's are hardstuck like that and will buy every Yasuo skin. Meaning Riot pockets a lot of money, but that is okay because Riot can't function for free. Instead of Yasuo though, I would be asking my why 3 female adc are getting the skin and one couldn't have been swiped out instead. We didn't need the new champion, Kai'sa, and caityln, all three ranged adc, getting the skin.
The new champ is a melee ad assassin.
: > [{quoted}](name=heroikc,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oHRE3rEH,comment-id=00040000000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-27T17:58:40.589+0000) > > And the damage to root ratio? What are you asking? Dark Binding 1175 Range 1200 Speed Mana Cost: 50 / 55 / 60 / 65 / 70 Cooldown: 11 seconds Roots target for 2 / 2.25 / 2.5 / 2.75 / 3 seconds dealing 80 / 135 / 190 / 245 / 300 + 90% of AP as magic damage. It is an ability that has been basically unchanged since this game's release. The only reason people are whining about Morgana is because she got reworked and people think she's significantly more powerful. Here's a hint, she isn't. During the VGU her Q got ZERO buffs or nerfs. It was literally unchanged.
There was a mini buff to her Q with the VGU where they made it work like thresh and blitz hook, How the hitbox grows at max rank. They also sneaked in the number changes to her W without posting them anywhere. I personally don't get all the nerfs for her. She's the same but played more.
Sillae (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=MordridtheBlack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sRfwEfsb,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-10T11:12:19.165+0000) > > that and she is still kind of overpowered ever since her update The only buff was a MS boost on her ult, and every Morg main would gladly give it up for their old power.
The also kinda buffed her Q. mains have told me it acts like thresh q now where it doubles its hitbox at max range.
: I still want the old W cast back
Manxxom (NA)
: Name something agonizingly painful.
Having a Jaw infection for 2+weeks. you don't get to sleep you don't get to eat you don't want to drink water and all your mind says is make it stop
Satakieli (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=PABEE8p4,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-01T13:55:59.625+0000) > > The better question is, who didn't end up in a situation like this. Me: *sees a super low 0/17 enemy Yasuo* Me: *23/2 Neeko is alive* Me: *Flashes away cause it's a darn trap* *Yasuo Flashes mastery 7, he was the real one. And I've just flashed in a bush with Neeko charging her ult there* Me after that day: *remembers Neeko's image or splash art or whatever* *flashes IRL and has a panic attack. Should probably take meds now*
> [{quoted}](name=Satakieli,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=PABEE8p4,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-01T20:57:49.160+0000) > > Me: *sees a super low 0/17 enemy Yasuo* > Me: *23/2 Neeko is alive* > Me: *Flashes away cause it's a darn trap* > *Yasuo Flashes mastery 7, he was the real one. And I've just flashed in a bush with Neeko charging her ult there* > Me after that day: *remembers Neeko's image or splash art or whatever* *flashes IRL and has a panic attack. Should probably take meds now* One of the best baits iv done is swapping to a low hp Yasuo and flashing my M7 until they dove me.
: Im sorry but using a full rotation to clear a wave fully is all ready good. Ziggs needs a full rotation, zed needs a full rotation, oriana before getting AP needs more then 1 rotation, so does almost every single mid with some exceptions lika malzahar who can just clear wave with 2 spells but it can be stoped by enemy laner if malzahars voidlings are killed. Why should talyah be an exception. What I see as problem is her high nama costs. Nothing else.
> [{quoted}](name=Meany Sting,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AMXWImvp,comment-id=000b0000,timestamp=2019-01-01T19:44:22.373+0000) > > Im sorry but using a full rotation to clear a wave fully is all ready good. Ziggs needs a full rotation, zed needs a full rotation, oriana before getting AP needs more then 1 rotation, so does almost every single mid with some exceptions lika malzahar who can just clear wave with 2 spells but it can be stoped by enemy laner if malzahars voidlings are killed. Why should talyah be an exception. > What I see as problem is her high nama costs. Nothing else. I saw it as her thing personally. Like Ziggs thing is shoving and killing towers really fast. Why does ziggs get a 35% execute to towers on a spell? No other champion has that. It's because ziggs is the siege champion. Taliyah's thing was a roaming mage to me. She was supposed to control the mid wave so that she was able to do her roaming, because that was her thing. Taliyah was a early game influence, going to other lanes to get team mates ahead because of how hard she falls off late game. She used to have a winrate of 52% if a game ended at 20-25 mins but also had a winrate of 42% when a game was 30-35 mins. Now taliyah is a burst mage the goes around trying to oneshot people but almost every other burst mage does it better at this point. Its how she is the 8th least picked champion in the game combining all of her roles, and the least pick midlaner in the game. "that has a pick something like ivern mid is at a 0% so it wont show up"
: I'd be fine with Neeko's ult if it 1. has the cooldown of Karthus' ult 2. applies damage over time. ({{champion:161}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:9}} etc) 3. has an absurdly long charge time and is interuptible ({{champion:20}} 4. doesn't apply a shield ({{champion:25}}) 5. is extremely difficult to land the maximum amount of damage ({{champion:142}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:163}} ) And listing champions like GP and Malphite is cheating because they're off meta if built full AP so their AP ratios have 0 impact most of the time. Neeko is designed to be built full AP.
1. I agree on her ult cd being too low 2. her ult damage would be to low for that currently Victor and fiddle doing close to double also over time effect comes with some benefits. Velkoz's slowing and dealing true damage from ranged,Victor's interrupting channeled abilities thingy while also doing upfront damage. fiddle's has a blink and forces you to get a passive prok. and all of these ults also have the effect of being able to be moved while still dealing damage, vel can move left to right,victor can control his storm,fiddle can run at you. 3.Her charge time is 2 seconds 1 second shorter then a nunu full charge and her charge does have 1 way to interrupt, killing her. while this works on everyone she gets nothing if you do it while she is channeling. If you stop nunu he still gets some damage off, if you kill fiddle the second he blinks from his ult you still take a little bit of damage if victor uses ult on one 1 target and dies he still does some damage. if neeko ults and is killed before it goes off, she clicked ult just to put it on a 90 second cooldown. "again i think a 120cd be better here" 4.it however does not apply true sight and upfront damage and the shields only shows up slightly overhalf way threw the charge and if you got hit by said ult the stun is longer then the shield duration 5.Can't say much for zoe don't really like playing her,Victor only needs to cast his ult on someone and get 1 tick to do slightly over neeko's ult damage. and for taliyah, it more of how i main taliyah and thought it was funny that taliyahs at lvl 1 with a lvl 1 q does more damage then a lvl 6 neeko does with her ult. and for hitting taliyah's q its pretty simple you only need to hit like 3 you can move it while they fire and its cooldown isn't 90 seconds.
Łμst (NA)
: Kitty kat? {{sticker:katarina-love}}
Missed her thanks! {{champion:55}} 375 +285ap "and 330%ad if that matters really"
Dr Dog (NA)
: so they're nerfing neekos q but not her ult?
I don't personally understand why people think that a 130%ap scaling is super high i mean {{champion:163}} lvl 1 Q is 210 +135%ap {{champion:103}} lvl 1 R is 180 +105%ap if 3 people all get hit its 540 +315%ap {{champion:245}} lvl 1 R is 150 +150%ap {{champion:28}} lvl 1 R is 125 +75%ap but if a target is below 30% it becomes 250 +150% {{champion:9}} lvl 1 R is 625 +225%ap {{champion:105}} lvl 1 R is weird due to the range thing 150 to 300 and 80%ap to 120%ap {{champion:41}} lvl 1 R 420 +120%ap without any upgrades {{champion:74}} lvl 1 R 503 +183%ap rocket ult {{champion:30}} lvl 1 R 250 +75%ap a bit low for this but adding it because it will always hit 5 people {{champion:85}} lvl 1 R 300 +150%ap {{champion:54}} lvl 1 R 200 +100%ap {{champion:25}} lvl 1 R 300 +140%ap {{champion:518}} lvl 1 R 200 +130%ap {{champion:20}} lvl 1 R 625 +250%ap {{champion:161}} lvl 1 R 450 +125%ap {{champion:112}} lvl 1 R 490 +305%ap {{champion:115}} lvl 1 R 200 +73%ap middle is 300+ 110%ap {{champion:142}} lvl 1 Q 125 +150%ap
: Neeko is surprisingly fun to play against
I had a situation where i was playing karthus and i saw a 5% hp yorick so i ulted. mid way threw the channel i then noticed yorick also had a death timer. started yelling NO NO NO NO then yorick transformed into a full hp neeko and my ult was put on cooldown ;~;
: Not saying it isn't. A **130% AP ratio** being available is no laughing matter.
Taliyahs q has that if you hit every rock.
: What is the most damage you've done in a game and with which Champion
i got around 170,000 on {{champion:163}}. enemy was 5 tanks so team fights were just me throwing my q at them for 30 seconds.
floo (EUW)
: Why is it not? They have priority because they can use the buffs most efficiently. I already said what disadvantages laners have with a buff compared to a jungler.
In Korea if you don't give blue to mid they will AFK and its considered the junglers fault.
WoOxêr (EUW)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=WoOxêr,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=nhLy5H6g,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-07T14:01:03.529+0000) > > Wards are free, back to first seasons u had to buy wards, nothing to cry about. Back in the first season you were able to carry 20 of the things all lasting longer then this.
: Is liandries not the ap version, also if they did make one it would be way to problamatic imagine it WITH liandries. Insane you can just outright say ap and ad brusiers are the same they are tanky and do dmg so umm durr maybe they can have ap version of the same items while ignore the innate differences between ad and ap. Sometimes you need to really think of things before you write them
{{item:3151}} and {{item:3071}} are somewhat opposites in that {{item:3151}} is weak vs MR but strong vs HP but {{item:3071}} is strong vs armor and is weak vs HP. only real big connection is the new passive {{item:3151}} got where you get % more damage while you are in a fight kinda like the armor shred stacking on {{item:3071}}. {{item:3151}} and {{item:3153}} is more linked to me.
: I feel like Boards is very supportive of "new playstyles"....until one actually appears.
On the taliyah thing. the 51% winrate and a 14% pick rate is for her jungle only. she isn't played mid enough to even show her stats there. "league of graphs shows her mid stats as a 0.3 pickrate and a 49% winrate for gold 50% for plat and 56% for diamond "her top and support being 57% winrate support with a even higher playrate". I personally want the champion i played from day one to stop being shoved out of the lane i learned and loved playing her in. and if it does matter the change that did push her into the jungle started with dropping her winrate to 40% mid.
Dr Poro (EUW)
: Next season's big rework project.
I swear the new client is a bit miner.
Kelg (NA)
: Just had the pleasure of playing with an Inting Sion
My issue with it is people don't know how to play it. If you win lane as sion, you do the same thing but without dying. it's meant to be something you swap into when your losing not something you do at the start of the game.
: What can I do to get the hell out of silver?
Do the LS pick mid and go {{champion:1}}
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