saltran (EUW)
: I would be fine on the "dont increase powercreep" if it was about non buffing adcs but doing huge nerfs across the board to other champs. But the way that the Gameplay Boards want to reduce it is by just nerfing the non dohshit adcs lmao, no wonder why they ask for it.
i'm not asking for "no powercreep" i'm asking for no more DAMAGE creep the cait ult buff and jinx buff are in that direction, cait Q is not really a buff it's a powershift to make it better at fighting (since trapped enemies take full damage) and worse at waveclear in an uninteractive way.
saltran (EUW)
: Good try but wont happen soon.
well no shit you don't buff cait and jinx, then nerf lucian in the same patch
Moody P (NA)
: Why are debuffs that increase damage acceptable but ones that reduce it are not?
>Trynd Mocking Shout reduces AD by up to 80 and we seem fine with it. tryndamere used to be pick/ban in pro in 2012 then they nerfed his W debuff from 20/40/60/80/100 AD to 20/35/50/65/80 AD **the only debuff that never got nerfed was malphite's E** I don't know honnestly why we're not having debuffs reducing damage it would fix the insane damage creep we got
saltran (EUW)
: I mean, it technically does affect Irelia top that rushes Tiamant.
it affects all top tier toplaners atm irelia jax, even sion goes for titanic hydra right now according to opgg
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: I feel like im the only person that thinks ashe should not be touched and is fine like she is a utility adc in a damage meta of course she is not going to be meta.
there is a reason pro players who like ashe aren't playing her she's unplayable in this meta where you die botlane in one all in that being said, she shouldn't be buffed the whole botlane issue should be fixed by nerfing damage across the boards AND TANK SUPPORTS
Fízz v2 (EUW)
: edit: nvm I guess lul
is fizz top tier atm? i didn't understand his nerf
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: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mKH8nzEP,comment-id=0002000200000000,timestamp=2018-12-10T00:26:48.249+0000) > > is this supposed to justify any of them? actually any one of them could have (exception to lissandra, not too sure). enemy team had no mr against a fed neeko. any champion he listed could actually do the same. especially brand or vel cause all they have to do is press r.
find me a video of brand or vel'koz doing this in challenger and i will agree
: Put Lissandra, Lux, Brand, Xerath, Vel'Koz, Annie, or Ziggs in the same position, they will do the exact same thing. Only difference is that aside from Lissandra, they all will do it from much further range than Neeko.
no champion you listed can do what neeko did you have to be a trash iron player to let vel'koz/xerath kill your entire team, if enemy team had vel'koz or xerath the irelia would already have gone hunting them Same for lux or ziggs annie and lissandra are insanely telegraphed **all those champions never scored a pentakill against an experienced streamer like rush** neeko uses passive and invisibility and hide her ult then nukes your entire team **ITS CAMILLE RELEASE OVER AND OVER AGAIN** people on the boards come and try to justify how balanced their broken champion is, when said champ has 80% ban rate let me tell you that no release this year had 80% ban rate, pyke had around 40% on release. jesus
: \> Baron reduces resistances. It's been attacking Rush's team for several seconds at that point \> People just used their abilities to just take down Yasuo \> No one has their ults, except for Irelia, who throws it into Windwall
yea all AOE champions could have done the same said no one ever
: It's because people would rather ban new champions than to learn how to fight them. Give it another week and the bans on her will drop significantly.
yea that's what people said about camille
Moody P (NA)
: Downvoted, mages are never OP and Neeko's actually kind of weak right now, her R has a delay you know?
yea, in the meantime she slows you and you can't see the spell if she's invisible/taking an ally form OMEGALUL and i like how only death cancels her ult and you can use zhonya during it take nunu ult and give it a stun, and allow him to move during the channeling why not xd
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: A troll build? That's not the point of this post. Even without Essence Reaver and 40% CDR you would still have an URF mode Tumble cooldown.
I never saw Uzi or any best vayne in the world building that shit so no i'm not getting convinced build that trash essence reaver if you want, even the best lucians in the world do not build that garbage item
: Do not go through with Vayne's Ult Q (Tumble) change
I don't think a troll build is going to have an effect on riot's mind
: > [{quoted}](name=IEatDolphins,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Gj9cnflG,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-12-08T20:31:05.848+0000) > > I mean you could just rotate around the windwall so its not completely negating their kit. > (Just replying to your windwall statement) Rotating around the windwall works fine usually if talking 1v1 but its far more difficult in a skirmish or a teamfight. Usually one would never even attempt it later on, and there is the thing with how he can cover his entire hitbox pretty much inside it.
yes as i said he hardcounters ranged champions do you know what the definition of hardcountering is? good
: 'Can't get to one shot people even at full build' Phantom Assassin says hi tho (Granted there are items that basically give Poppy's old ultimate on steroids, but that's because Dota counters broken with broken)
if phantom assassin is playing against a team without items then sure other than that, she will be against carries that have over 30 armor (which is like 200 armor in league), tanks that bought dodge, and supports that bought aelon disk giving invulnerability for 2 sec if your hp went below 80%
Moody P (NA)
: You don't miss strategy nearly as much as you claim
yasuo counters ranged champions and get rekt by melees like renekton -->toxic and needs to be deleted
: oh. must have been in 8.23 cause i didnt see it listed in 8.24
: what cait buff?
Piltover Peacemaker (Q) damage increased from 30/70/110/150/190 to 50/90/130/170/210 wide shot damage changed from [33% less damage] to [40% less damage] Ace in the Hole (R) target range increased from 2000/2500/3000 to 3500 at all ranks
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Rock MD (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=wuthappen,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=j8hYulc5,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-12-07T23:54:37.485+0000) > > Problem is {{summoner:14}}. Probably the most braindead and broken summoner spell in the game. > Its meant to reduce healing and tick the last 5% of enemy health if you cant kill them cleanly with your combo. **Now its doing 1/3 of the dmg.** Ignite got 10 extra damage at level 1 and 95 damage at level 18. It was never meant to "tick the last 5%". it was already doing 20% of a squishy's HP and its damage had not been touched prior to that since 2010. I hate when people try to project their idea of what the spell should be. It's not a finisher, it's a valuable piece of a combo. It has been for its entire existence.
those damage made it better than other summoner spells, making ignite obnoxious af
: yuuuuuuuup, vayne with all 3 of her her active abilities up would have completely dumpstered that alistar.
No she would fucking not, no adc can 1v1 alistar at the moment until at least 3 or 4 items because of {{summoner:14}} and that clip doesn't show that adcs need buffs, rather shows that alistar is a fucking problem in high elo and riot balance team is a joke to nerf his base hp.
Slade25 (NA)
: [(] So yeah read that link. It says the three ADC's you said are bad actually are all within the 6 best ADC's right now, according to winrate. Use stats to back up your arguments, not feelings
weird how those champs have a trash pick rate, meanwhile kai'sa lucian jhin have around 30-40% pick rate omegalul
: The Damage, what would you change?
conqueror removed black cleaver armor shred is now selfish bruisers get their true damage/armor shred nerfed tanks get damage nerfed ADC+mage+bruiser itemization would give less damage more defense ignite nerfed magic penetration now scales with lvl like lethality
: don't forget then losing 1-2 turret plates putting you behind even further
i forgot something really important thank you
Kaioko (NA)
: They've already announced that they are looking at crit items in the next patch to buff them a bit without making them OP again. If they do that, you'll have more scaling marksmen again which will change how bot lane interacts.
this doeesn't change the fact that you die in one all in you don't need to buff crit when the problem is that tank support + caster adc will kill you in one rotation, it's absolutely retarded Crit doesn't need a buff, ADC gameplay does not need to go back to "casino simulation" What needs to be changed is that now, you should be able to lane more peacefully in lane you should not die because you didn't dodge one single hook of pyke
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: > [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nxusrvRK,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-12-07T14:19:30.114+0000) > > wait i'm not following > > i know that irelia and lb are broken (akali 44% win rate now, you will need to convince me that she's still broken) > > But gp deserved his nerfs > YES he fucking deserved them Stop ignoring banrates. I understand the nerfs on GP's cooldown increase, but the rest is too much. If GP's getting nerfed for his lane annoyance, where's Irelia's spammable dashes & stat-check passive nerfs then?
> [{quoted}](name=BeatzBoyFTW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nxusrvRK,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-12-07T14:39:44.931+0000) > > Stop ignoring banrates. you mean that trash stat that means nothing most of the time? if people don't want to fight akali that's fine before stormrazor nerf jhin had 53% win rate and 30% pick rate and ZERO percent ban rate ban rate means shit, janna was stupid for a while and wasn't banned too people don't ban what is op, they just ban whatever they want >I understand the nerfs on GP's cooldown increase, but the rest is too much. If GP's getting nerfed for his lane annoyance, where's Irelia's >spammable dashes & stat-check passive nerfs then? this argument makes no sense, because you just admited that gp nerfs were needed so why bring that here? you just need to remove the gp part and ask riot to nerf broken champions
: Still baffles me why Riot allows Gangplank & Sejuani to be in this state
wait i'm not following i know that irelia and lb are broken (akali 44% win rate now, you will need to convince me that she's still broken) But gp deserved his nerfs YES he fucking deserved them
King Lego (EUNE)
: CertainlyT vs. the player-base and action needs to be taken.
how about you complain about real $ùing ** designers like squad5 or riotjag? repertoir?
: Don't forget to take ravenous hunter, it procs on your W and {{item:3153}} and any other onhit.
Hm, I see that's actually good I might take that over sorcery 2nd tree
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KoKoboto (NA)
: Does Mordekaiser still gain shield when damaging with Conqueror rune?
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: NA vs EUW
nobody cares about the EUW boards not even EUW players
Shiƒter (NA)
: What was the worst and best time/meta for league you can remember
season2 probably people even pro players didn't know how to play the game but at that time every classes were viable at the same time
: In the one where each auto attack deals 100+ true damage (thanks IE) and he can get up to 50% armor pen if he feels like it
No IE doesn't deal 100 true damage in one hit else your crit is dealing 1000 physical damage to a tank which is impossible, considering that you also need 500 ad for that please don't post bullshit Lucian cannot kill tanks unless the fight is in midgame
saltran (EUW)
: Fucking NO Kayn is fine Azir is the champ that had the most overloaded kit in the last 5 years of this game on release and he's still problematic Tham is aids and the pinnacle of what unfun means Lucian is a champ that when has 49/50% winrate is called garbage by his mains that want to have him as he is right now: being the by far best adc in the game Taliyah lore and personally is nice, but her gameplay was push and roam, not horrible but neither a big succes
when Lucian has 49/50% win rate he's unplayable in high elo he needs a rework
: >Tahm Kench no.
: AD champs can build duskblade, static shiv, stormrazor and rapid fire canon for max burst, but...
you will oneshot more if you build rabadon+33 flat mr pen giving you true damage after 2600 gold than any of the item listed in your thread
: Crits being a %AD amplification sounds fun until guys like Rengar lay their hands on it tbh
AD amplification on hit not AD amplification as "AD rabadon"
: well stupid question did he hit you with the 4th shot of his passive ? The fourth attack will critically strike for 15 / 20 / 25% of the target's missing health
He hit me with all the attacks, dealing more damage to me than I did when I should have won because I managed the fight better All because of Casino giving him 2 crits with 30% chance crit
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: I absolutely love the current game flow, BUT....
meddler acknowledged that defense is a noobtrap on carries hopefully it gets adressed
: Sneaky cosplayed as Bowsette and Peach
: We need a middle ground between the current meta and ardent meta for supports and marksmen
I can't believe this post gets upvoted No matter who you're putting in your list, Ardent meta had a fucking denegerate lvl of gameplay with supports running around and pressing one spell to win the teamfight No, just no
: A few questions from a Dota 2 player about game balance
As a Dota2/League player myself I would advise you to not play League at all. The reason league can get you oneshot is because this game is no longer balanced around Defense being strong Dota allows carries to all be tanky in late game with strength giving HP and agility giving armor League forces marksmen to go full glass canon, and then either get oneshot, or oneshot the others to win. Same with Mages Then you have melees champions in league balanced around ignoring Defense which is straight up bullshit because **their own defense gets countered easily** when they need it. Imagine if MonkeyKing had his billion of armor given by ult countered easily. Because that's what happens in league. %armor pen or %magic pen does not exist in dota. %hp damage does not exist either on items either in dota, it's a niche mechanic that Lifesteal has to counter tanks. And not everyone gets to be Lifestealer. Me and you can go on it for months, but at the end of the day I advise you to keep playing Dota. **It's not about which game is more balanced** it's just about me hating league that is no longer a moba, but more like CoD. As for me I cannot play dota anymore, because I no longer have a computer that can support it.
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