: i dont see why you would make a system that allows 4 and 5 man pre mades first off there is a ranked 5s ladder for a reason...why allow a pre made of 5 to queue up in normal ranked now when they can just go play ranked 5s second....why give the power of the surrender vote to a 4 man pre made....you are just screwing the solo guy out of everything...the solo player is at the mercy of the pre made thinks the game is over..surrender...pre made wants to keep playing...guess what you are gonna keep playing...why force a solo player into that situation the ONLY way this works is if you can garentee 99.5% of the time a 4 +1 is queued up against a 4 +1 or 5 queued up against 5 and i dont think you can do that there was nothing wrong with the old way...why brake something that was working perfectly fine
> there was nothing wrong with the old way...why brake something that was working perfectly fine oh my god where did all those people go when they keep complain about soloq being frustrating because of bad teams or no team work lmfao soloq is far from perfect it's more of ***hole tbh
: I feel like if you want to queue with 4-5 people, then that's why team ranked exists. It would be a better compromise to give a tri-queue option I guess. As it stands though, I have no intention of playing ranked. It's pretty ass to be the solo person against a group of 3-5 and with a group of 3-4. Also I have to wonder how big your polling population was. I never received such a survey, and neither did any of my friends who play ranked. Did you only survey mostly people who don't play ranked? I'm not sure that's fair. Every other MOBA that has tried this was not successful, and I don't see why League would be any different. The response to dynamic queue has been overwhelmingly negative, both on Reddit and on the boards. This is especially true when you get to more competitive levels of play. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/40zxst/okay_the_sheer_terror_inflicted_by_the_queue/ My other huge concern is people who main support and another role. If I put support as my secondary choice, I'm almost always stuck getting it. This is OK sometimes, but it's currently unbalanced due to how few people are willing to be put in that role.
> [{quoted}](name=Buffy,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=XvqbAgrF,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2016-01-16T06:02:35.565+0000) > > I feel like if you want to queue with 4-5 people, then that's why team ranked exists. It would be a better compromise to give a tri-queue option I guess. As it stands though, I have no intention of playing ranked. It's pretty ass to be the solo person against a group of 3-5 and with a group of 3-4. Also I have to wonder how big your polling population was. I never received such a survey, and neither did any of my friends who play ranked. Did you only survey mostly people who don't play ranked? I'm not sure that's fair. ehm ur team will also have 3-4 premades
: I think this queue is great for exactly the same reasons you mentioned; team formation is undermined by solo queue vs 5 on 5 queue because people don't always have five friends. Many here say 'WELL JUST PLAY NORMALS THEN!', which is missing the point entirely. The best things we can do to make eSports grow stronger, which is a very important thing for all of us I think, is getting people to play ranked and making it easier to play as a team, it's as simple as that. Which is why I think that dynamic queue will be one of the healthiest things for eSports you could have done. People who say 'well it doesn't capture individual skill anymore': I think this attitude is seriously flawed. One way or the other, you will need to cooperate with 4 other people and I think it's a way too cynical outlook that every 4-premade team (which doesn't even seem to happen that often from what Lyte wrote) is composed of feeder, trolls, or people who don't communicate at all. It's in their best interest that the fifth player knows what's up. Your own skill and will to communicate is still the most valuable thing you can do, that will not change with the new system. Another thing that people complain about, is that you can't compare a gold who only pre-5'd vs a gold who only solo'd. Firstly, Riot could just give people who solo an mmr bonus if necessary, so that does in no way invalidate the system at large, and secondly I do not think that argument holds up; since pre 5's only get queued vs other pre 5's, their chances of winning are not significantly higher! If one guy is bad, he's ultimatively going to hold the team back vs teams that don't have a weak player. I know that you are afraid of this change, but as Kha'Zix says: 'CHANGE IS GOOD', and especially this change has the potential to be the most invigorating thing that ever happened to League of Legends; and don't you think that Riot has real interest in making sure it will be that, and not the riddled mess you all want it to proclaim? Please start thinking of the benefits and don't just one-sidedly hate on the system without thought.
This so much this... people needed to stop being deluded they always complained and hated soloq now that riot is changing it everyone is like no IT'S PERFECT THE WAY IT IS ! lmfao i hope dynamic que is here to stay
Rilea (EUW)
: Rather that I would be at a severe disadvantage compared to people in queued groups of 3, 4 or 5. And yes, it's possible a solo player will be placed with more coordinated players, but then there's the issue of an internal conflict within the team, of the solo queue players being alienated and harassed by the grouped players if the solo player makes a mistake.
Mute and it's done doubt they que up as 4 just to harras ? tribunal is doing great work atm
Lyte (NA)
: Let’s talk about dynamic queues and ranked play
People act like you could only que as solo or duo on normals games... in normals u can go as 5 or as 4 so this technically existed since season 1 they are just adding it to ranked. For people who say what if i only play alone and i got gold 1 and the other guy is premade with his 4 friends and he also got gold 1 how is that supposed to indicate skill level ?. who cares about individual skill if you have enough of it in a team game (faker the best mechanical player in korea couldint qualify for worlds 2014) shows how much playing as a team matters people talk like soloq was fun and perfect the way it was when people used to complain all the time about having a bad team well now u can control how many people u wanna que up to ranked with or keep on going solo it's up to you, also being able to play as a team is an individual skill on it's own that you need to improve on , going back to the gold 1 part the solo player proved that his mechanics or game knowledge got him to gold 1 meanwhile the other gold one premade guy showes that he can be a team player and rise through the ladder ( assuming his friends arn't boosting him and they are at same skill level ) so in the future whenever u que as 5 u will always know how to play as a team, this is how league is supposed to be played and people act like it's 5 man premade vs 5 man randoms which is never the case, what's so bad about being the solo guy playing with 4 premades ?? you can be friends with them if u guys mesh together or you can play like normal except that ur team is for once is playing together unlike soloq where everyone is doing their own thing and when the finally play as a team they rek the enemy soloq is a mess and u guys are overlooking things and ignoring what was bad about soloq to begin with. there is a reason why lcs/ogn/worlds THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF League of Legends is played as a team this only embraces it even pro players say SOLOQ isn't go a good indication of how good you are (other then KR Soloq) because the game is based off of team play now you can que alone and have a better teamplay experiance because you could be with a 4 man premade TLDR Less ''My team is bad'' more''i can be the diffrance bettween the two teams and my team is actually playing as a team{{item:3072}} ''
Rilea (EUW)
: Thank you for your honesty regarding a controversial topic - one of the many reasons I love Riot as a company is their honesty and communication with the community As a player who purely plays alone, I dislike dynamic queues - I like the idea of a ranked queue testing how you adapt from game to game with a new set of teammates - not how well you can synergise with a group of friends over a course of hundreds of games - in my opinion, that is what the Ranked 5v5 queue is for I understand that Riot wants to facilitate the players that want to play ranked with friends, but don't have the a stable amount of friends to form a Ranked 5s team, but in doing so with Dyanmic queues, it feels as if exclusively solo players like myself are being forced to make friends and play with them (even if I don't like it or want to) else I am being severely hindered in game with factors outside of mechanical skill, game knowledge etc. I truly believe the best solution is to have a seperate Ranked Dynamic and Ranked Solo/Duo queue, so both solo players and groups of players can play and enjoy ranked in the way they want to. I'm not sure if this is feasible, but it's just a suggestion
Man you act like you can't go que alone lol what's the big deal of just going in alone ? all that's going to change is that the team ur playing with play more like a team
: Power Rankings - 6/30/2015
I feel the need to get something off my chest you judge TSM from their poor showing at MSI let me remind you that it was all best of 1's can we really judge them off of that they chocked hard but was it their top performance ? or did they unperformed ? they won IEM for Crist sake don't tell me it was a fluke cause the games they played was crazy good shot calling and execution and i feel like TSM going back to Top 8 is ok if not reasonable they are back dominating top teams in NA and i say that as a relevant statement because they unperformed hard in MSI it's not just because teams were really good that they are just better, look at NA LCS First game vs C9 (they are currently at the bottom of lcs ) it was clearly an under performance that resulted in bad execution so back to my statement they are bouncing back they just crushed CLG convincingly coming off from beating team liquid as well, unlike the C9 Game (which they are a weaker team ) got 5 drakes and still couldn't end the game, just shows how they were in a slump the fact they are bouncing back to IEM Level they surely deserve top 8-10. stop letting your hatred/emotions take over your judgment.
I SUPA I (NA)
: TSM 8th? LOL That is noway near right
they won IEM and chocked at MSI Now they are bouncing back stop being delusional.

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