: > [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JfReA9vh,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-24T16:34:58.368+0000) > > {{champion:110}} refers to events of old lore in his voice lines. > > _FeelsBadMan_ iirc his VO is coming , they mentioned it a few times
It's not really confirmed though, they said this maybe over a year ago. Both Varus and Miss Fortune were candidates for VO Updates (it was already confirmed that MF's got canceled due to no ideas for character personality direction but we have absolutely nothing on Varus). I'm not so quite sure that it's coming anymore, there's always other priorities as they said. Additionally they have stated that if any champion is to receive a VO Update, they are the N1 Priority and Ezreal Mini-VGU (which focused more on Visuals and Sounds) came out of nowhere and both MF and Varus were kind of essentially left behind and forgotten about. I can only hope that one day, the VO Update Project might get revisited.
Reav3 (NA)
: I want to take a minute to answer this from my perspective. First of all our intentions of doing less VGUs and more New Champs was actually based on caring for the playerbase as well as from player feedback we have gotten over the years as we have done New Champs and VGUs. Let me go into a bit more detail though. First when I said less VGUs I didnt mean we would stop doing them, I just meant we would slow down. Expect to still see plenty of VGUs in the future, just not as many as we have been doing last year. The reason why I feel that his is coming from a caring place is this. There are many players that share your perspective, that they want their main updated, and changed. But you have to understand there are also many other players that love their Champion, and find it very frustrating when they are updated even if many other players think the update makes them way better. We have to care about these players as well, and whenever we do VGUs we also cause a lot of disruption and frustration from players over their Champion being changed. New Champions generally don't cause this player pain. Last year we actually saw a lot higher player frustration over change, partly due to how many old Champions we were updating and changing, with many older players feeling alienated by the changes. At this point, after Morde, many of the Champions we would consider for a VGU have much higher players bases then the Champions we were doing VGUs on in the past. This isn't to say there isn't value in doing them, but if we were doing them at the rate we were doing them last year, on Champions with bigger player bases, then that is many more players that would feel frustrated or alienated by the changes, even if many other players like them. This isn't to say we want to stop doing them as we feel there is value in the game feeling modern and up to date, which means we value updating the things that are getting old and dated. The Champions on the list just aren't as dated as some of the ones we did over the last couple years, and as a result the value in updating them isn't as high, and also has a higher disruption and player pain cost since the Champions have bigger player bases.
How do you feel about champions like {{champion:110}} or {{champion:126}} (both released in Season 2) who have had the same visuals (visual effects and the same animations) ever since their release that are proving to age really well now? . Any chances of them getting a simple {{champion:81}} sized VGU which focuses more on the Visual (Ability VFX, In-Game Animations) and Sound Aspect (Voice-Lines, Ability SFX) Update? . I know that maybe a year ago it was teased that {{champion:21}} and {{champion:110}} were both candidates to having their Voice Over Lines Updated, but ever since then we only know that MF's were cancelled due to being unsuccessful in finding the direction of what the voice should sound like, and we simply have no news currently if Varus had the same issue as well.
: Dorito hands Udyr lul.
: Will there be Audio only updates in the future maybe? Riot?
{{champion:110}} refers to events of old lore in his voice lines. _FeelsBadMan_
: Focus on Mini-VGU & Not on New Champions
Would you say that Varus {{champion:110}} needs a Visual Update & Animation Update or just a Mini-Gameplay Update? Tbh I could deal with him not receiving a rework (which he might need) if it meant that his visuals would be improved. His visuals date back all the way back to Season 2 when he was released. What bugs me most is that by default his Blight Stacks look like some purple worms lol.
: Morde's new mace looks sick I am kind of worried about the Changes to his ultimate, it doesn't seem To Be A DoT anymore, and I'm hopeful that the wording they used means that he still will be enslaving Ghosts
Personally I think they mostly wanted to get rid of the DoT as his Ultimate Design because it doesn't really scream (fear me).
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: > [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=8uckVTZF,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-04-23T07:24:10.792+0000) > > I swear just this > {{summoner:14}} alone breaks any skill expression in lane. It's been nerfed a lot, no idea why you'd still be complaining about ignite.
Nerfed a lot? It only lost 10 damage early and 95 lategame. And it's not even fully a nerf if it gets a compensation buff along with it at the same time (which it would make it an adjustment, neither a buff or nerf). Btw this adjustment (patch 9.2) is just the revert of the buff they gave it in (patch 8.6). And that other buff alongside it (the cooldown reduction being lower now) is just a revert of a nerf they gave it in (patch 1.0.0.152). Additionally with this cooldown reduction buff it got, if you bought Ionian Boots of Lucidity alongside Cosmic Insight (+5% cooldown reduction rune), you can make this Summoner Spell be on a 153 second cooldown instead of the default 180, which is pretty huge imo. I can see how it may not be a huge deal for champions with a decent amount of health but for those with little of it, it's a huge thing (as specially those who have low hp scalling per level).
Dukues (NA)
: I miss the feeling of actually being outplayed
I swear just this > {{summoner:14}} alone breaks any skill expression in lane.
: you mean every game mode that isn't summoners rift?
I wish people actually played Twisted Treeline, it's just sort of there but it's often full of bots and what not.
: Ultimate Gromp.
I can actually picture something like a 60s themed Summoners Rift in Black and White. Jungle Monsters looking different (ex: Gromp in a grey suit, who is also wearing a hat similar to Tahm Kench)... ###_Where am I going with this..._
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: Can the new enchanter have a spell shield or cleanse in her/his kit?
I would love the idea but most players would find it unfair, considering how strong the effect is... (Yet people forget that GP and Rengar have it and say nothing about that) The reason as to why I would love the idea is that so I can actually save my ADC from the following... {{champion:89}} (you're never going to move or do anything) {{summoner:14}} (1 button free kill) {{champion:7}} (Chain Range equal to the entire map) {{champion:33}} (ADC Death Sentence)
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: Draven looking for a new keystone yet again. Maybe the pros will switch to Fleet.
Trying to think if you're being sarcastic here or not... Since I never once saw Aftershock being used on Draven.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: pyke and ryze nerf Good
###"Ryze nerf" Poor guy... https://i.imgur.com/VbEs0Jz.gif[]
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Sukishoo (NA)
: No. Those are part of 9.9 The IG, Zed and Eve skins were the only things releasing in 9.8
: They're going to be part of the Token Pass MSI event.
Ah right, by any chance you know when that takes place?
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: Want DoT keystone? Aery + Scorch is your keystone, check it out guys: https://clips.twitch.tv/StrongBlatantBaboonGOWSkull {{champion:90}} {{item:3070}}
Aery sucks because it doesn't synergize with DoT effects well at all. Scorch is literally a mini rune, and the only rune that synergizes with DoT's. Sure if they are still under a DoT effect by the time Aery somehow returns, she will fly back at them again. But for me this isn't a keystone that works with this champion. I have this new setup that sort of works well (5 out of 5 games won so far), where I take Dark Harvest and I have 5 different DoT effects going with this; Scorch, Corrupting Potion, Malzahar E, Ignite, Landry's Tornment (and atleast one of these dots upon me trying to get the enemy to half health for the Dark Harvest stack will always ensure me that I get it, or when a low health enemmy tries to get away that I have that last tick which will kill them) I would REALLY LOVE if I could add Deathfire Touch to this setup for that 6th DoT, god I really miss Deathfire Touch.
: I have a rune set and an item set for jhin to be fast. He can reach speeds as high as sion's ult by estimation due to his passive, alacrity increasing the movement speed buff, and building crit to allow the bonus movement speed from his passive to be for every basic attack you do. should I make a post on how to do The Fast build for jhin?
Do it. Tell us of the ways of the fast.
d00mface (EUW)
: I would love for {{champion:110}} to get a VO update tbh. I'm surprised they haven't done one for him by now.
I was just about to say that.
Laura ß (NA)
: Golden chroma skins all look ugly as fuck but you did a good job, Riot should hire you because it seems too much of a task for the current designers to make a skin resemble the splash art
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Westlie (EUW)
: Kog'Maw, The Struggling Marksman
How do you feel about Varus who's almost in the same boat as Kog? (although Kog statistically has a better winrate than him)
: Praise whoever's vote botting na LoL forums
Always did thought that the voting system is rigged on boards.
SirEnds (NA)
: Can We Have an Update to The Darkin Lore?
I just want to know who this sister is of Varus... Is she also a Darkin? Why is he looking for her? Are they close? I have so many questions.
Dr Dog (NA)
: kinda dogshit, either the hp regen on it needs to be buffed or the gold when its 100 farm is gotten needs to be buffed up
> [{quoted}](name=Dr Dog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Vk904PqZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-11T14:06:54.144+0000) > > kinda dogshit, either the hp regen on it needs to be buffed or the gold when its 100 farm is gotten needs to be buffed up It's not HP Regen, it's similar to Lifesteal except you gain +3 Life per Basic Attack.
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: You guys are in denial That wont ever happen, you are aware of that right ?
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kfRBgP5j,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-04-10T22:26:38.362+0000) > > You guys are in denial > > That wont ever happen, you are aware of that right ? Calm down, I know that it won't ever happen. It's just a simple thought I had at the end of the day.
: Just some Morde I've been drawing recently
NICE I love the colors that the new Reworked Morde is going to have... It creates much more mystery behind him in my opinion.
: Could get kinda messy for people with multiple abilities as one. Also title says login,post is about loading
>Could get kinda messy for people with multiple abilities as one. True, but it could still potentially be possible. For instance if X champion has 2 abilities within one slow, upon clicking on the same slot again would show information for the other ability in the same slot. Idk, I think it could still potentially be doable. > Also title says login,post is about loading Whoops, thanks for the assist.
Chronabis (EUNE)
: @ Riot about Aatrox
BBtrox could in theory actually be a new champion, just give him a different name and a different weapon (Warhammer for instance) which would make more sense if the knock up Q Mechanic was to be left in that kit and he could co-exist alongside real Aatrox.
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: Yeah, I understand that Val and Kai focus served the aim to give a tragic story to start with, I even liked it as idea, not as execution though. Still is kind of disappointing that we know more about those 2 than the champion we are playing.
>disappointing that we know more about those 2 than the champion we are playing. This specifically is what has been bugging me so much lately or it has ever since the lore update.
: I'm fine hearing them time to time, I just don't want them to be half or even more of the VO. **IMO** he should have about 4-5 lines: - Serious dialogue between the 3 about their inner fight - Val/Kai struggling and fading away as Varus gets stronger - Varus mocking them - Them mocking Varus - Death voiceline with them all - A joke or taunt with them calling eachother "heartlight" and Varus mocking them about it That's all I am willing to take (and I think it's fair as a limit, the champion here is Varus, not his victims).
> [{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aRgXWVXl,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-04-10T14:37:42.666+0000) > > I'm fine hearing them time to time, I just don't want them to be half or even more of the VO. > > **IMO** he should have about 4-5 lines: > > - Serious dialogue between the 3 about their inner fight > - Val/Kai struggling and fading away as Varus gets stronger > - Varus mocking them > - Them mocking Varus > - Death voiceline with them all > - A joke or taunt with them calling eachother "heartlight" and Varus mocking them about it > > That's all I am willing to take (and I think it's fair as a limit, the champion here is Varus, not his victims). Agreed.
: It would be really awesome to have, Varus needs some visual and VO love+consistency. My only fear is to have too much Val and Kai in that VO.
> [{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aRgXWVXl,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-10T14:16:07.356+0000) > > It would be really awesome to have, Varus needs some visual and VO love+consistency. > > My only fear is to have too much Val and Kai in that VO. Yeah understandable considering most of the so called lore update was focused around the hunters (which I wouldn't mind if we also got some info on Varus himself, who conveniently got left out).
: Can we get a update for Riot's cheapest skin???
They could just rename it to something like Shadow Essence Master Yi, and give him some Purple Particles to his basic attacks and abilities, and have his W emit this smoke effect to at least qualify as a 975 RP skin.
: varus has a sister? i thought darkin cant biologically be related since all they are just weapons needing a user.
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aRgXWVXl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-09T23:38:55.267+0000) > > varus has a sister? i thought darkin cant biologically be related since all they are just weapons needing a user. Eh idk the lore is just all screw up but in one of the last comic stories, Varus was in some lands of Shurima looking for someone and he specifically said "where are you sister?" Varus was a regular man (but we don't know about what relatives he had before ascension due to the lore being redone), and after ascending he just joined the cause of fighting alongside the other God Warriors (Aatrox being one of them for instance). After things went south after the Icathia War, all of them were hunted down and sealed within their weapons with the help of the Aspect of Twilight. I'm not sure what role this sister has within the story but I assume his sister is also a Darkin potentially because he would not have any other reason to seek her out besides re-united to Darkins (even though they don't all get along). The Darkin lore as a whole is quite messy, and too inconsistent.
Rioter Comments
: Item Shop Cleanup
Can we expect some changes towers other On-Hit Attack Speed items? Rageblade has always seemed like the center balance of those items. And without it all On-Hit items just feel weak or have little to no synergy... * Nashor's scales with AP (that some On-Hit Champs don't buy) * Bork gives Lifesteal that doesn't benefit from On-Hit Damage * Runaan's Hurricane (that is heavily used by On-Hit champs to enhance their On-Hit damage spreading to other units) gives Crit Item stats and only because of it's Passive is the reason why On-Hit users buy it (could we get an alternative option to Runaan's Hurricane that gives better stats for On-Hit users similar to how Tiamat has several options?) * Wit's End feels like it was sort of killed off for ranged users because of the massive changes/rework and because of the healing difference. Additionally is Rageblade considered to receive another rework or removal because it massively proves to reduce or remove counterplay against a champion such as (Vayne, Master Yi, Kog'Maw)?
: New Jhin Tattoo!!
###_Delightful!_ https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/d/df/Jhin_Render.png
: new wits end on shen, kog maw and varus?
It's really bad. At max level the healing you get is 26.4. The sustain is a bit of a joke. Add Grievious Wounds to that and you get 15.84 (that's almost less than some Early/Mid-Game typical Health Regen on some Tanks).
Colte (NA)
: who plays those champions
> [{quoted}](name=Colte,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2I6avofu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-04T05:32:55.425+0000) > > who plays those champions :(
: > [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3locEUeH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-06T11:01:27.433+0000) > > My Masterwork Chest gave me the Ahri Charmed Emote... > > Whereas a regular Hextech Chest gave me PROJECT Jhin. > > _Hmm_ I got siren cassiopeia from a masterwork chest, rerolled it with spellthief lux and blood moon shen -> fiddle me timbers + normal chest + key That normal chest gave me soulstealer vlad I then played a game and my friend got an S- so I got a chest which gave me pulsefire ezreal perm :D It's all skill {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
> [{quoted}](name=banjerlief,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3locEUeH,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-06T16:41:42.675+0000) > > I got siren cassiopeia from a masterwork chest, rerolled it with spellthief lux and blood moon shen -> fiddle me timbers + normal chest + key > That normal chest gave me soulstealer vlad > I then played a game and my friend got an S- so I got a chest which gave me pulsefire ezreal perm :D > It's all skill {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} NICE
: The best Masterwork Chest I've ever opened.
My Masterwork Chest gave me the Ahri Charmed Emote... Whereas a regular Hextech Chest gave me PROJECT Jhin. _Hmm_
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