: Hm most Rengar's I see either run Predator or Dark Harvest as their keystone as for sub runes Cheapshot or Sudden Impact are both viable (SI perhaps a bit more due to how Rengar functions) Eyeball Collection Ravenous or Ultimate Hunter and then, Legend; Bloodline and Coup De Grace Specialty runes...hm. First would either be Adaptive or Atk Spd Second can be armor or mr Third would be the other from the second (if you got mr get armor and vice versa) As for playing with lower elo friends there's always a risk involved if you go that route, but it depends on "how" low they are. outside of normal, ranked has a, I think, 2 division line where you can't play with people in a match if there is a 2 division gap. so ex; if you are gold you can't play ranked with anyone in Iron, but you can't also play with ppl in Master or higher. if you play with lower elo ppl, all that really does is boosts the hidden mmr of the match so there's a chance you'd be running into higher elo players than they are used to
Would you recommend Triumph over Bloodline?
: I'm not a Rengar main by any means (I actually avoid playing Jungle as much as possible because I suck at it) and I don't know if you'll heed my info/advice or ignore it 1) Tweak your build accordingly; many people get stagnant on their build when they get into a groove on a Champion, not altering it to fit the needs of your team and the weaknesses of the enemy team. 2) Ganking isn't always viable or smart; just because you are the jungler doesn't mean you can or should gank. Every lane may tell you other wise, but sometimes farming up creeps to get a bit of an item lead can make or break the difference in a fight. 3) Play smart; if you are able to make a move on the enemy, ping first, so the laner knows to either back off; continue the push, or hold the line. If someone pings for help in a lane, try if you are close by: but if you are on the other side of the map then just give off a general ping so they know that you can't do much because you're not close by. 4) Play with friends; this can't be stressed enough. While it isn't always possible to play with friends, when you can you at least know they are smarter than your average bear. One thing I notice in many of my games is people don't always ping if an enemy is missing or has used a summoner spell. Thus giving you a heads up that either the enemy might be roaming, or you can make a move. 5) Realize when the battle is lost; dear gods...so many people don't seem to understand that you can't win every game even if you are playing on your best champions. If you are behind, do the best you can to catch up. If a lane has been lost and their pinging for help, say that you can't do much because that lane is ahead. If possible, try and get an FF up. Losing on your terms is better than playing extra time in a match that there is little or nothing you can do in.
1) I have the understanding of when to purchase what items based on the situation and their composition and builds but I don't really know when and what I should change in my runes other than the armor and magic resist bonuses. I know you don't play rengar or jungler but if you have any tips let me know <3 4) I wish I had friends :D, joke aside, I do have friends but my friends are much further above me, or further below me, or just don't play or want to deal with ranked, would you advise for me to play with lower elo friends or is that a bit of a risk? also if I play with higher elo friends do I get put up versus his elo or mid-way or something? Thanks for your advice, I'll use them in my games :D <3
: Are you a jungler rengar or top rengar? On twitch if you select LOL and select rengar in the tags you can find some interesting educational streams. They can be helpful with your questions.
Rioter Comments
: You exhibited negative behavior throughout the game and technically broke the rules. You may think you were justified in your actions but that is irrelevant in Riot's eyes. Other players exhibiting poor behavior isn't an excuse to act in a toxic manner. In the future the best thing to do is just to focus on your gameplay, not respond to toxic behavior and just report it after the game. Good luck.
: > [{quoted}](name=DiViND,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=965hEBVk,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-23T03:10:47.386+0000) > > Thank you, I've asked my friends about this and they're as surprised as I am. To make it worse rujitra is either misreading my points or purposefully taking my points out of context. Thinking of sending a support ticket on the ban. Note that the post you're replying to is an opinion. Some people are of the opinion that no chat should be punishable, and therefore any chat punishment is unfair; some people are of the opinion that insults and harassment are acceptable behavior, and therefore any punishment for insults or harassment is unfair; some people are of the opinion that inting once in a while is cool, and therefore any punishment for inting is unfair; and so on and so forth. According to Riot's rules of behavior which you agreed to and which serve as the basis for any punishments your account receives, however, this punishment was absolutely fair. I can guarantee you that sending in a ticket would be a waste of your time as well as Riot's. Their support agent(s) will repeat what most people here are telling you, confirm that your punishment was given correctly and therefore won't be lifted, and then close the ticket.
I understand that it was an opinion, and I, myself, believe it to be unfair, It wants me to be more helpful to my team and to set me in that order they punish me by making me mute, which kind of defeats the purpose, Although it achieves the goal of punishing flamers and toxic behaviours, it counter-acts the idea that we should be constructive, supportive and helpful to our teammates when we can't do that since we have a limited amount of messages which would be more wisely used to make a limited amount of callouts than being able to support, construct or aid my team. Like I replied previously, I would much prefer an hour or a day ban which in turn wouldn't affect me or my team in our chances of winning in future matches.
: > [{quoted}](name=DiViND,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=965hEBVk,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-23T02:59:38.307+0000) > > To my knowledge, Arguing is not a bannable offense, neither is putting the blame on someone. Your knowledge is incorrect. The vast majority of your chat consisted of harassing teammates for their poor performance. Did "bot is fucked" or "your lane is a lost cause" or "this guy is trolling" make those teammates play any better? No. This kind of thing not only makes people feel worse, it even makes them play worse. This behavior is indeed punishable, with the intention of making you stop engaging in it.
Again, when I said "bot is fucked" I talked about the lane itself as all our turrets were destroyed. "your lane is a lost cause" Yeah, okay, It's true that it can sound harsh, but It was the fact, Their lane was over, our bot laners were already far behind and the enemy botlane was quite fed, ganking bot would amount to nothing but give more gold to the enemy. I don't know what to say then if one our teammates isn't engaging and instead doing his own act. I understand that it brings no good, but I tried to bring reasoning into this as well as re-tracing our mishaps. Instead of directly insulting the players' ability to play the game, their skill, their actions etc. I wanted them to understand themselves why I wasn't ganking bot, what went wrong, and why we lost. Although I did blame bot, I don't know how else I would of said it to them. I couldn't just say "it was just bad luck that Sejuani ganked bot so many times" because it wasn't. They made themselves vulnerable to ganks and they had little escape. It is difficult to avoid engaging in it once all the blame for one person's lane comes directed at you. I tried to defend myself, explain why we were losing bot, and why I didn't want to gank bot. There is no nice way of saying why I don't want to gank bot without it making it sound rude. Even simply saying "sorry but I don't want to gank bot" can be taken as unpleasant. If I add a reason for it such as "because you are losing your lane too hard" makes it worse. However, I understand that it doesn't help the situation but makes it worse, I disagree that it deserves such a punishment which ironically will affect my ability to participate in helping my team by not being able to give information on when Im planning on ganking them, taking baron, or drake, or where the enemy jungler is e.g "top side" I Would almost definitely prefer an hour - day ban depending on the severity as it won't force me to be mute and unhelpful to my team.
rujitra (NA)
: I encourage you to reread the [Summoner's Code](https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/game-info/get-started/summoners-code/), in particular sections 1, 3, 5 and 6. While getting a bit heated while remaining constructive and helpful is generally not a problem, you did not do anything to help the team - you simply insulted people and harassed your teammates. You do not need to call for reports or point out behavior - more reports **are completely useless**. Number of reports is not a factor in *any* punishment. The context does not matter - your messages do.
I did try to help the team, If you're talking about actions, I think our scores and participation shows itself. If you're talking about verbal motivation; "show that hippie who's boss" even after being flamed, I insisted in warning my botlane "Sej bot side" even after giving up on my botlane, I still tried to give them a gank "ill try" Although I knew I'd be wasting my time by accomplishing nothing and wasting out on the opportunity to help my other lanes or other objectives. "We have a god player Jayce, an amazing Top" "DiViND: if we could have rankeds of 3 DiViND: we could rlly pull some nice games DiViND: Really good Jayce DiViND: Top was won too" I also tried to be constructive by pointing out their flaw, which you earlier labeled as 'insulting' "DiViND: okay guys, you're saying Im inting, but you're still pushing a losing lane knowing that sejuani is gonan focus you for free kil DiViND: and an ez lane" I didn't have the intention nor any trace of trying to harass my teammates, I was under the misconception that the more reports you get, the quicker your report gets looked into, as I believe MANY are under the same misconception as well (as it's present in other games, if you're reported more, the more serious they take your reports.)" It's not okay to make such an accusation that I was purposefully trying to harass them when this information isn't fully acknowledged. Although now I understand that I no longer need to call out reports as more reports do not mean they'll be looked into quicker, however, calling out behaviour can still be important to analyse (and not being specific to this game) why we lost the game, what happned, how and what could be improved, and to understand where things went wrong. My intention was to tell my Jayce and Darius that we lost this game because our bot was lost, and our botlaners were really far behind and could not recover. I also pointed out that Braum was dancing instead of helping so my team understands that we cannot confidently rely on Braum and that we may need to improvise as a four man team unless Braum decides to participate again. If context doesn't matter, then why is a comment such as "DiViND: I dont think it matters what top or mid does anymore DiViND: look at bot" is still identified by you as a form of insulting, flaming and blaming. You managed to wrongfully (or purposefully) interpret that as me blaming our botlane when I was talking about the lane itself. I will read the summoner's code once I get some rest, and I will get back to you.
: > Was a punishment for this fair? Nope. Not even close
Thank you, I've asked my friends about this and they're as surprised as I am. To make it worse rujitra is either misreading my points or purposefully taking my points out of context. Thinking of sending a support ticket on the ban.
rujitra (NA)
: So, it doesn't matter who started it - them blaming/insulting you doesn't give you the right to do it to them. It also does not matter if they can see it or not - insults/flaming are not okay, even in postgame chat. None of the following is okay: > DiViND: what was I gonna do? > DiViND: And go in them and die aswell? > DiViND: or you wanted me to run away? > DiViND: how about you dont get stunned :) Passive aggressive "salty" blaming. > DiViND: I dont think it matters what top or mid does anymore > DiViND: look at bot Blaming and flaming. > DiViND: 0/4 > DiViND: 0/3 > DiViND: Im ganking non losing lane Insulting. > DiViND: bot you're premade > DiViND: I doubt BOTH of you were auto > DiViND: this guy is trolling Blaming, arguing, and flaming. > DiViND: he is flaming and trolling > DiViND: Not even helping kill minions Doesn't matter who you're talking to, it's not okay to make accusations and argue like this. > DiViND: Ask any jungler if they would gank an inting lane > DiViND: at lvl 6, cait was 4/0 and you kept pushing them > DiViND: I ping sejuani is coming > DiViND: And they still push You're insulting them, blaming them, and arguing still. > DiViND: He is ctrl 3 > DiViND: Dancing > DiViND: because look at them > DiViND: I dont care if I look like a cry baby, Braum is blaming this on me for some reason > DiViND: When we are tryna clear minions he didnt help, he legit Ctrl + 3 Arguing, insulting, blaming. Doesn't matter if he was actually griefing you and dancing - you don't get to increase negativity and flame/blame. > Post-Game > DiViND: guys > DiViND: jayce and darius > DiViND: report braum Report calling/harassment. > DiViND: 1/9 0/8 premade botlane > DiViND: like.. how XD > DiViND: idk man, at 8 min-ish > DiViND: when I came to gank bot > DiViND: Braum got stunned > DiViND: instantly pointing finger on me > DiViND: to do something > DiViND: cait was on turret, I couldnt do anything More blaming and flaming.
First one, Passive aggressive salty, perhaps. Although what I was intending was to copy what he had said and apply it to his case. Second one, No, We had no turrets bot and there was no way we could get back from that, Why is that flaming/blaming? Who am I flaming in that case? Third one, Not insulting, They said "Then Gank bot" And I don't want to stop playing and message why Im not ganking them in detail, I showed them their scores, and I said "im ganking non losing lanes" as that was the only way I saw us in winning, even if I was wrong, I was answering them, not flaming them, don't take it out of context! Fourth one, They said they were both Autofilled, I saidDiViND: bot you're premade, DiViND: I doubt BOTH of you were auto, DiViND: this guy is trolling, Braum said they were both auto, which I didn't buy, so I said he's trolling, is trolling an insult? Fifth one, Again, is Trolling in an insult? is that flaming too? when he dances instead of helping the team and says they were both apparently autofilled. Not Accusations, you can download the match and watch him dance as we're trying to protect our turrets form mega minions. 6th one, how is recalling events a form of insulting or flaming? I tried to outline their mistakes and explain why I didn't gank. 7th one, I was talking to the enemy team and asking them to report our braum, they said "for?" and that I sound like im crying, I told them why, why is that a bad thing? 8th one, this one is absurd, HOW is that harassment? I was reminding Darius and Jayce to report Braum, Not only was I specifically talking to Jayce and Darius, Braum had already left the lobby. It's like reporting a crime to the police and then being called out for harassing the culprit. 9. Although I did blame bot lane for losing, you had taken this out of context again; DiViND: I hate when people say, "stop blaming team, you're in that elo because you're skill", but it's like, how can we win a game like this? XD , 1/9 0/8 premade botlane , like.. how XD". again, I was recalling events and how they were wrongly accusing me for inting the game. Although I will admit that I did blame bot for losing the game, I did argue, I did NOT insult them (unless recalling events and stating the current situation would somehow be insulting/flaming) and I did not flame them. To my knowledge, Arguing is not a bannable offense, neither is putting the blame on someone. If it were the case, it would be absurd. I had encountered a game where me and a friend were put into a game with a duo who were running it down mid (literally since the the opening of the fountain gates) and then at minute 20 saying "Guys don't surrender, we want to beat the record for most deaths) and then blaming them for losing the game is somehow a form of flaming, then the line of what's acceptable is completely blurred out, you can ban almost anyone in any game of LoL. Furthermore, Please stop taking my comments out of context to aid your counter-argument.
rujitra (NA)
: Giving info is a lot different from insulting, blaming, and arguing with your teammates.
I don't tend to get into arguments until they begin blaming me and seem like all of this is my fault. In a game before this It was really useful for me to tell my teammates where the enemy shaco was constantly so my team would know when it's dangerous to over-extend. I had played against that Shaco before and I was able to warn of a lvl 2 gank in mid and that he ganks mid everytime he crosses. Also, doesn't really answer my topic and I'd really like to know your opinion. Edit: Also I feel like I didn't insult anyone. I gave comments on our current situation. Things like "bot is fucked" was in fact a really poor situation. When they would ask why I wouldn't gank, I would tell them their score (as it was very early in the game) and I didn't want to explain to them that It's because they were giving off a lot of kills too early and I've given up on bot. I simply and briefly told them their scores, and told them I'm ganking not losing lanes. also when I said "1/9, 0/8" premade botlane, they had already left the lobby, it was just me, jayce and darius left, I was telling them that we couldn't win when we have 2 premade players so far behind.
zPOOPz (NA)
: Is this the only game on your report card or are there game 2,3,4,5?
Nope this is the only one, I can provide with a [screenshot.](https://postimg.cc/64tQYfKw)
Rioter Comments
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Dr Endeavor,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NuIgbQEw,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-22T04:05:47.173+0000) > > .....What? What Soul Dealer is saying is completely logical and valid. Not only do you keep shoving words in their mouth, but what you write just looks like arguing for the sake of arguing. Maybe if you are 1 kill or a few cs behind maybe being aggressive can change the lane, but you don’t dive 4 people solo as a valid tactic to get back into the lead. You dont purposely chose not to ward, or just stop warding in order to get more vision control. If you are not dominating a lane, you don’t shove the lane under the enemy tower over and over to just die to the jungler every time. > > I don’t understand what you are arguing about, there are clear fundamental skills that DIVIND and Soul Dealer are discussing that people in various elos are completely missing. There is no "perfect" or "must have" skillset. There is what is generally accepted as the best course of action, yes, but there are many players who climb to Diamond and higher with completely "insane" strategies. You don't get to dictate that someone else "isn't playing right" because there's really no "right" way to play.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NuIgbQEw,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-22T04:07:08.170+0000) > > There is no "perfect" or "must have" skillset. There is what is generally accepted as the best course of action, yes, but there are many players who climb to Diamond and higher with completely "insane" strategies. > > You don't get to dictate that someone else "isn't playing right" because there's really no "right" way to play. I Think vital aspects that differ a good player from a bad player is, knowledge of the position you are in, including, your opponent, how you can fight them, what to build and understanding the enemy's composition. Understanding how certain things function. Timing, knowing when to use summoner's, when to get certain objectives, when it is a right time to split push and when it's not such a good time to split push. Adapting to your current situation. understanding core gameplay aspects, and so on. Although not all of these can be identified from just one game, some, can be very obvious and the actions taken by the player can really tell you their skill. If you have a player using a champion and hasn't landed a single ability.. that must definitely be concerning, and I'm sure if you had that in your game, you'd be very tilted and definitely would question their ability to hit skill shots hence questioning and determining their skill, however that's just an example. In my situation in the second incident, there was no adapting of any sort from my bot lane, they would continuously repeat the same mistake of pushing a Kalista who had a power and gold advantage, as well as a nocturne who they gradually fed and continued to feed. From my personal perspective, if you're playing an adc and you're behind, ofcourse you'd like to play safer to give your jungler, mid or even perhaps your top laner the oppurtunity to gank you. secondly, you'd like to stay closer to your turret to avoid being blinded, and then destroyed by nocturne's R, giving you turret protection, Warding would of been another important play for them, however, they hadn't even bought control wards to ward enemy side bush, nor drake, nor their own bush, leaving very little information in case of a nocturne gank. However, NONE of these were executed, and they would repeat the same mistake of not warding, and continuously pushing bot lane and falling into nocturne's R. Another way of being able to determine a player's skill is quite sub-conscious, once you player a few dozen or maybe a few hundred games of ranked in that elo, you understand what's quite usual and what's unusual, and that situation was unusual and showed the player's lack of skill in understanding their situation, adapting, and executing. Again, Although you can't determine everything about a player from a single game, a lot can be gathered from just observing how these players react to their current state and the state of the game.
rujitra (NA)
: You claim you aren't going to claim you're a better player, but then you go on trying to claim you know exactly what rank everyone should be and that you shouldn't be matched with the players you are because you're "too good" for them.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=NuIgbQEw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-21T23:59:20.343+0000) > > You claim you aren't going to claim you're a better player, but then you go on trying to claim you know exactly what rank everyone should be and that you shouldn't be matched with the players you are because you're "too good" for them. Ehm no I didn't? I didn't claim what ranks everyone should be, I'm claiming that the contrast in skill is large for having the exact same elo. also, never claimed I'm too good for them. I'm saying that it's strange to be matched up with players who don't have a clue what they're doing and are in the silver 1 rank but also be matched up with bronze 1 players who are in the same situation and are able to adapt better than those of certain silver 1 players. edit: in other words, the difference between two players' skill can be massive to the point that it's questionable on whether the player deserves this elo/rank or not. Some play better than silver, others play worse than silver. edit2: I'm basing this on average silver players that I've encountered, there are some who are able to single handedly dominate the map and have a huge influence on the game and that tends to be unusual in my elo, especially when you look at the player's match history and stats you can see they have huge potential. whereas some players who are almost absent on objectives, teamfight presence, damage, cs, etc. but both are placed in the same elo.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: Tbh. If you have no winning lanes as a jungler. You May as well just give up. You honestly have no solo impact. It’s sad but it’s true. Cause remember. 1 kill is not just 300 gold. It’s 300 gold + 320 turret plate gold + minions + xp.
On the match or Jungling entirely?
: Step 1: Open Tab Step 2: Figure out which lane you have that should technically win on it's own Step 3: Figure out which lane you have that has easy straight forward engage Step 4: Figure out if that lane will be getting pushed in or pushing in You will want to hover or dive depending on Step 4 Step 5: Play EXCLUSIVELY around that 1 lane or maximum that 1 lane and Mid Step 6: If your SIvir soraka start begging for ganks on the Draven braum you should full mute them and continue with the established plan from Step 1 to 6 A lane that wins on it's own can destroy the game outright if it gets the camp as well. This is how you win with jungle NEVER and i mean NEVER play around your weak side
Rioter Comments
Hotarµ (NA)
: > Okay, fair enough... and true, I wasn't behaving civilly, but I don't think my comments identify with any of the report choices, assuming that negative behaviour strictly fits to it's in game description e.g griefing. > > Yeah, I could of been a better person, and yes, I should be in future, but I still argue that I didn't use any hate-speech against them, and I haven't been acting so negatively to cause mental or psychological harm a.k.a being toxic. When we're on the receiving end of harassment (or just engaged in a heated argument) it's tough to discern what is or isn't toxic. One method that usually works is to try to look at it from an outsider's perspective and ask yourself if you would report them for what they're saying. I guarantee you and I would report someone for saying things like "I will pray for fucking cancer than get you in any of my games", that sort of language doesn't contribute to constructive discussion and it doesn't deescalate the situation. Don't stress it too much. At the end of the day it's just one small punishment, your account is still in good standing and this'll just act as a healthy reminder to keep cool.
That's a good way of putting it, didn't really think of observing it from that perspective, It seems to make sense now. The whole loose difference between what can be identified as just anger and toxicity is difficult to separate and you make a good point on how we can observe that. I'll try to watch my tone and control my frustrations in future and thank you for the response.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=DiViND,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=cUI132pe,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-08T02:26:31.856+0000) > > But was I being toxic or was I expressing my rage? You act as if these are mutually exclusive. If you express your rage in a toxic way, it is toxic. > I avoided name-calling, avoided direct insults, I avoided making comments on him or immaturely bringing his family into it. Oh, did you? Let's see some quotes from you: >DiViND: cool.. closest thing you'll get to a woman probably >DiViND: parents dont give you enough attention sylas? Not insults? Really? But even still, being an asshole is toxic - regardless if you "directly" insult someone or name-call them. > Ofcourse I was angry, but you're telling me being angry in a game is a taboo? I didn't say anything to him with the intentions of hurting him but instead driving him off, expressing my frustrations, and making myself appear less vulnerable. No. Being angry is fine. Being toxic is not. > I clearly didn't use any hate-speech of any kind. > Also, by toxic behaviour, I wasn't trying to harm him, again, yes, I was rude and mean, but I wasn't trying to insult anything about him directly, did not lead his family, relatives or friends into it, did not bring his personal life into it, I said what I didn't like about him. Doesn't matter. You admit you were rude and mean. That is not acceptable. > I wasn't on my best behaviour, but I don't think my comments had the severity to deserve this punishment. Your comments are some of the worst chat logs I've seen on the boards in a long time. You acted inappropriately, period.
Toxic behaviour is suppose to be emotionally, physically and mentally damaging right, But I believe to of not made any comments to cause such intentions. "Closest thing you'll get to a woman probably" is not name calling, it's mean, it may condescending, but I did not imply that he would never get close to a woman. Also I said "parent don't give you enough attention sylas?" in response to his constant seeking of attention from me with pings. I really don't see how that identifies as name calling. If you read what I wrote under it "he was clearly trying to get my attention". Then where is the line of being angry and being toxic? would you think "fuck you *person*" would be toxic or anger? Toxicity is behaviour with the intentions of damaging someone mentally, psychologically yada yada.. but I implied that is the closest he would get to a woman, not attempt to convince him that he will never have a woman. I would argue that being an asshole and toxic are different things. You can be an asshole by copying everything they say to purposefully annoy them but it doesn't fit the criteria of "toxic behaviour" I was rude and mean, but again, where is the line where it is acceptable. Is saying "omfg jungler gank me" an excuse for a punishment? It's definitely rude, but it's not harmful or toxic. you're saying I have had the one of the worst chat logs? then you clearly haven't seen many. Would you say my chat logs were worse than, I quote "guy number 2" "I fuck your mother" "I will fuck your sister" "I can make you a sister"?
Hotarµ (NA)
: >"DiViND: noob soraka top" "DiViND: got a fucking problem?" >DiViND: I will pray for fucking cancer than get you in any of my ranked games DiViND: ironically, no one asked for you to say your opinion.. so stfu plz :) >Do you guys think based on these events the punishment is fair? Yes, because looking at it objectively, your focus was more on retaliation rather than diffusion. Simply put, if you can't respond to someone civilly, don't respond at all. You forfeited the right to claim yourself as the victim when you said things like "I will pray for fucking cancer than get you in any of my games" or telling people to stfu. No negativity is acceptable, in the future just mute and report players. If you don't want to mute them, don't respond to them. For what it's worth, I'm sorry you had a rough game and I sympathize with you, but this behavior is just as bad as theirs, it doesn't matter who started it.
Okay, fair enough... and true, I wasn't behaving civilly, but I don't think my comments identify with any of the report choices, assuming that negative behaviour strictly fits to it's in game description e.g griefing. Yeah, I could of been a better person, and yes, I should be in future, but I still argue that I didn't use any hate-speech against them, and I haven't been acting so negatively to cause mental or psychological harm a.k.a being toxic. Edit: If Negative Behaviour is a lot more general in which it has any negative affect, then the use of bad language would be one of them too right?
rujitra (NA)
: 1. The events do not matter. Your actions do. 2. You do not always get a message when someone is punished, to prevent the exact type of behavior you are displaying of "witch hunting" 3. People you report who violate the rules will be punished. You violating the rules will also be punished.
But was I being toxic or was I expressing my rage? I avoided name-calling, avoided direct insults, I avoided making comments on him or immaturely bringing his family into it. Ofcourse I was angry, but you're telling me being angry in a game is a taboo? I didn't say anything to him with the intentions of hurting him but instead driving him off, expressing my frustrations, and making myself appear less vulnerable. I clearly didn't use any hate-speech of any kind. Also, by toxic behaviour, I wasn't trying to harm him, again, yes, I was rude and mean, but I wasn't trying to insult anything about him directly, did not lead his family, relatives or friends into it, did not bring his personal life into it, I said what I didn't like about him. I wasn't on my best behaviour, but I don't think my comments had the severity to deserve this punishment.
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: What is one skin you always forget exists?
Greenwood Ashe, not because I forget it exists but because I want to forget it exists. I got that as my first skin from the first free hextech chest on both of my accounts in EUNE and EUW. It belongs as a chroma, not a skin, and it dissappoints me every time I look in my collection :(
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Infernal
Wilyum (NA)
: Is there anyway I can know if someone I reported gets banned?
The system is a fucking joke. Got into LoL just recently after a year of absence, played for less than a month I got autofilled which is already a problem as you are being forced to play something you dont for 20+ minutes (which in my case was 40min). I told my team that I don't play support, I don't like playing support, it was my first time to play that support champion and that I was autofilled. I was in for a boring session, then jungler started flaming, all game, and not just me, but my random ADC. He would even make up excuses when we were doing fine. Anyways, bored out of my mind, doing okay in the game, and being harassed, I break down and start being toxic again. 1 game later, 10 in game chat restriction for saying "I don't like my ADC (as he was beginning to troll) but I'd marry him than play another game with you on my team".. the other guy who flamed me, and the team.. Never knew if he got any punishment. Thinking of going to DOTA honestly.. I am punished by being toxic towards people who are toxic and Cannot give information to my good, willing teammates in future games, in for 10 games of most likely losing, 10 games 20 min on AVG. Minimum of 200minutes of not having fun.
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