: > [{quoted}](name=Escheton,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dERXtngk,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-04-15T16:29:04.705+0000) > > Shut up and play the game. I'm studying their behavior patterns when ahead. Because I sure as shit can't rely on vision any more because Riot killed that. So I better become a goddamn mindreader. the hell are you on about
> [{quoted}](name=Corsair Sion,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dERXtngk,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-04-15T17:16:23.272+0000) > > the hell are you on about same
: Is it possible to own an item before buying it from the shop?
{{item:2419}} but even that you can sell. Same for the boots.
: The adc pool is very shallow in comparison to Every other pool in the game. The fact that there is now an adc who can afford to go ability power means that compositions like zed yasuo lee sin aren't as punished, making one tricks of AD champs more viable as a result. ADC was also lacking a champion in the role who COULD be an efficient diver. This meant that we were dependent on others to take out squishy targets entirely but now have an option to help our team in that way as well. She's over buffed right now. Expect nerfs.
> [{quoted}](name=Sp33d Zer0,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=a9Unpil4,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-04-15T16:11:58.490+0000) > > The adc pool is very shallow in comparison to Every other pool in the game. The fact that there is now an adc who can afford to go ability power means that compositions like zed yasuo lee sin aren't as punished, making one tricks of AD champs more viable as a result. ADC was also lacking a champion in the role who COULD be an efficient diver. This meant that we were dependent on others to take out squishy targets entirely but now have an option to help our team in that way as well. > > She's over buffed right now. Expect nerfs. Full AD teams have been viable for 2 years now. Even counterpicking Malph or Rammus doesn't help. It's a sad state.
: the morons that never ff are more annoying than the feeders
Shut up and play the game. I'm studying their behavior patterns when ahead. Because I sure as shit can't rely on vision any more because Riot killed that. So I better become a goddamn mindreader.
: I just want to play top without being ganked while I'm level 2 and the jungler is level 3 with double buffs and most of his HP.
> [{quoted}](name=FurorDivinus27,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xNbaud0G,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-12T00:51:22.908+0000) > > I just want to play top without being ganked while I'm level 2 and the jungler is level 3 with double buffs and most of his HP. ^This How I pine for the days of actually dualing a lvl 3 laner and lvl 2 jungler and it being a 50% chance of coming out with a kill or 2 instead of a flash/death and hope something is happening botlane.
: Then why is pro play always consisting of at least 5 tanks (people building full tank) in total?
> [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E3VKeoo8,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-04-08T14:57:01.406+0000) > > Then why is pro play always consisting of at least 5 tanks (people building full tank) in total? Because damage is so high that an initiator or peeler needs full tank or they get blown up. And at that level of play it's a delicate dance. More tank stats means you can more aggressively look for a good play. Otherwise you are forced to commit on the slightest thing because your initiator can't dance on the edge looking for an opener. A single undodged piece of poke can lose you the fight, and thus the game.
: " If you were good you would've been able to carry "
Who says this? This isn't even a thing any more. Fed as hell bruisers taking over games was season 4. Who is supposed to solo carry with catch-up xp and shutdown gold making sure you never get enough of an individual lead that you can solo carry.
: probably the most op yet also extremely unplayed thing in one for all
: How do I get a girlfriend?
Yeah, someone that has a career and doesn't just play games to waste time and have fun all day. Everyone wants to have a good life. Girls generally want someone who will improve on their life. As getting laid is prettymuch always an option. So either find a gamergirl that doesn't mind or change your lifestyle.
dhpsus (NA)
: Purchase option for voted champion in All for One mode
Don't think special game modes even qualify you for chests.
: > [{quoted}](name=MrRazzleDazzle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=c1Uttpqv,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-04-05T05:17:42.923+0000) > > Yes, but now that all of the wave gold is tied to cannon minions, the fact that AP champions CANNOT KILL THEM is a huge oversight. I know the frustrations I do, as I am also a mid lane main. But wanting them to remove one of the only reasons to buy the item will basically gut and remove the use of even the item existing. It does need some form of nerf though, and a nerf is one thing I could agree on. Stuff like nerfing the stats of the item, or increase the gold cost can be something they can do...Make it more of a sacrifice for the people to actually buy and invest in the item.
> [{quoted}](name=Dark Nephthys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=c1Uttpqv,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-04-05T17:11:42.946+0000) > > I know the frustrations I do, as I am also a mid lane main. But wanting them to remove one of the only reasons to buy the item will basically gut and remove the use of even the item existing. It does need some form of nerf though, and a nerf is one thing I could agree on. > > Stuff like nerfing the stats of the item, or increase the gold cost can be something they can do...Make it more of a sacrifice for the people to actually buy and invest in the item. The bad stats and slot efficiency are already plenty punishment.
mirAcIe (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Escheton,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2uATOnVv,comment-id=00010000000000000001,timestamp=2018-04-05T15:36:54.492+0000) > > They look like the legs of someone with a lot of well trained muscles. Next you'll be telling me Kim Kardashian is an example of an athlete. https://i.imgur.com/iNQctz0.png[/img]
> [{quoted}](name=mirAcIe,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2uATOnVv,comment-id=000100000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-05T15:51:03.743+0000) > > Next you'll be telling me Kim Kardashian is an example of an athlete. > > https://i.imgur.com/iNQctz0.png[/img] Kim Kardashian works out a lot to maintain her body type actually. She has personal trainers just for bodysculpting. Yes, in her case it's also a lot of fat. Which is why she is making sure to not overtrain and keep up her calorie intake. That fat makes her tons. But being familiar with roller derby and the amount of leg training as well as general work outs it entails, I can tell you: that is a woman with a normal body type and well trained legs. Think of it differently. Would you expect an olympic shotputter or a bodybuilder to have spindly arms? Even tho most people, much less women tend to have spindly arms.
mirAcIe (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2uATOnVv,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2018-04-05T11:16:31.370+0000) > > That's not the same as being overweight. these are the legs of an overweight person
> [{quoted}](name=mirAcIe,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2uATOnVv,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-05T11:17:31.400+0000) > > these are the legs of an overweight person They look like the legs of someone with a lot of well trained muscles.
: > [{quoted}](name=Escheton,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sszLMgrM,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2018-04-05T12:58:28.494+0000) > > Is this a relatively new account? I see you are lvl 33. And I find that the lower levels tend to be stuck with new accounts from those banned for excessive negativity. Same for low elo I think. But I got placed in gold 5 (which is slightly above average) so i'm not sure. super mew made gold 1 in seasons 4 with my favorite Ap Gangplank too bad they removed the buff that gives allies speed and stuff but the ult is still ap and with the thing that gives gold on hit and the parley i can get goldies,and heal with oranges super ap scale
> [{quoted}](name=SuperMewKitty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sszLMgrM,comment-id=0006000000000001,timestamp=2018-04-05T13:54:02.572+0000) > > super mew made gold 1 in seasons 4 with my favorite Ap Gangplank > too bad they removed the buff that gives allies speed and stuff but the ult is still ap and with the thing that gives gold on hit and the parley i can get goldies,and heal with oranges super ap scale Yeah, I remember a game where our GP was counterpicked by Pantheon and I offered to just toplane my Zyra support while he assisted the adc. We both rekked. Great game.
Merlinez (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Escheton,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sszLMgrM,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2018-04-05T12:58:28.494+0000) > > Is this a relatively new account? I see you are lvl 33. And I find that the lower levels tend to be stuck with new accounts from those banned for excessive negativity. Same for low elo I think. But I got placed in gold 5 (which is slightly above average) so i'm not sure. na.op.gg/summoner/userName=supermewkitty ....
> [{quoted}](name=Merlinez,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sszLMgrM,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2018-04-05T13:01:35.844+0000) > > na.op.gg/summoner/userName=supermewkitty > .... Might not be only account or account they are referring too.
: > [{quoted}](name=Escheton,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sszLMgrM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-04-05T12:46:57.844+0000) > > There is a difference between an adc feeding because of an off meta pick, and an adc being picked off repeatedly because an off meta support pick can't actually contribute enough to a 2v2 to make it a favorable trade so the adc get bullied. nope,most of my teams just mad ping me and insult,then fed and blame me,they go 1/9 in less than 20 minutes when i pick offmeta things,and for every 10 matches i won 1 or 2,the rest are just flame cause they play to lose
> [{quoted}](name=SuperMewKitty,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sszLMgrM,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2018-04-05T12:54:32.375+0000) > > nope,most of my teams just mad ping me and insult,then fed and blame me,they go 1/9 in less than 20 minutes when i pick offmeta things,and for every 10 matches i won 1 or 2,the rest are just flame cause they play to lose Is this a relatively new account? I see you are lvl 33. And I find that the lower levels tend to be stuck with new accounts from those banned for excessive negativity. Same for low elo I think. But I got placed in gold 5 (which is slightly above average) so i'm not sure.
: If my jungler forgets smite, there should be something that stops champion select.
You can easily duo top or duo jungle for first clear to get them on their feet.
: when i pick off meta people plays bad and blame me
There is a difference between an adc feeding because of an off meta pick, and an adc being picked off repeatedly because an off meta support pick can't actually contribute enough to a 2v2 to make it a favorable trade so the adc get bullied.
: When the new map came out, there was around a 500+ upvoted petition thread requesting a revert to the changes on the forums. Riot did nothing then and they definitely won't now. I'm surprised they haven't completely removed it by now, like they did with Dominion.
> [{quoted}](name=Elkington VI,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=W2GF3Bu4,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-04-05T10:13:52.091+0000) > > When the new map came out, there was around a 500+ upvoted petition thread requesting a revert to the changes on the forums. Riot did nothing then and they definitely won't now. > > I'm surprised they haven't completely removed it by now, like they did with Dominion. Because it has ranked. And ranked rewards now also. Also, holy necro batman!
xishancx (NA)
: How do I farm mid/late game as a mid lane player?
You could take TP if you find yourself splitpushing a lot. If you do not have a champion that benefits from ignite's recent boost and can snowball early and easily to just farm champions. Counterjungling when your team has some control of an area is also something I don't see people do enough. Lot of people just leave the camps for the enemy team to take as they reset. Mid should have good clear to take the camps fast. Another option is tne Domination Rune that gives out of combat movement speed and/or the one that boosts River speed and ad/ap from Sorcery. So making map rotations or grabbing a quick wave/camp take less uptime away.
: why do some get tilted over that? i don't think it's a problem of what he does, but it's a problem of what people think he does. Some could've enjoyed the way he played. I repeat. I'm not 100% defending him because i still don't know what he really did. But it amazes me that some people are so mind closed that without searching for the facts they're 100% convinced of something
> [{quoted}](name=AnataBakka,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jFwTE8Oj,comment-id=0039000400000000,timestamp=2018-04-04T23:37:57.016+0000) > > why do some get tilted over that? i don't think it's a problem of what he does, but it's a problem of what people think he does. Some could've enjoyed the way he played. > > I repeat. I'm not 100% defending him because i still don't know what he really did. But it amazes me that some people are so mind closed that without searching for the facts they're 100% convinced of something Because some people don't have a very big champion pool. Or even main a champion to the point they dedicated their name to it. If you ban an Draven hover on someone called DravenIsBae that is tilting because it's obvious because you are only doing it to mess with them. Not the first action you'd want out of a teammate you rely on to win the game with.
: Why is Lux getting buffed?
Because Lux sells skins. And if there is no recent release of a new skin to coax people into buying them via sheer hype, you buff the champ so people play her, and want her to look even cuter...
Malza (NA)
: "No morgana ban pls"
Haven't seen a Morgana in ages.
: when you fall behind in lane
: is your rating based on your role?
Yes, it's based on player performance with that champion in that role. Which is why off roles have higher chance of an S if you do decent enough. Less available data or mains/good performers.
Hibeki (NA)
: Dying as sion removes manaflow band permanently.
Should probably be put under bugs. But thanks for letting me know. No Sion till its fixed for me then. (and probably karthus also)
: "You ban your teammates champ picks You leave your team when a teamfight breaks out You intentionally steal farm" It's fine that he got banned for these. "You pick non-meta champs to tilt teammates You build those non-meta champs as non-meta as possible (ad mages, etc) You intentionally KS" These aren't fine. I'm one of those "fuck meta" kids and i really hate when people tell me how to play. "You pick non-meta champs to tilt teammates" you shouldn't say "to tilt teammates", you should be asking yourself "why do those teammates tilt?" if i want to use janna adc i should be free to use it and not care if my religious mind closed people don't want me to use it. "You build those non-meta champs as non-meta as possible (ad mages, etc)" katarina, soraka, leblanc, i've seen those. If i report them i'll get them banned? Good thing riot doesn't notice by ashe tank ardent support or i would be in trouble lol "You intentionally KS" what the fuck does this even mean lol. Who's kill? Who decided that is supposed to be someone's kill lol "You don't go to the lane assigned, and instead go to interfere with others" "lane assigned" who decided my lane? and It's a thing 1. go somewhere else to help somebody and 2. go somewhere else just to get yourself killed ps: there's so much phylosophy going on when tantram answers to someone. It's actually fun xD
> [{quoted}](name=AnataBakka,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=jFwTE8Oj,comment-id=00390004,timestamp=2018-04-04T22:38:44.940+0000) > > "You ban your teammates champ picks > You leave your team when a teamfight breaks out > You intentionally steal farm" > These are fine. > > "You pick non-meta champs to tilt teammates > You build those non-meta champs as non-meta as possible (ad mages, etc) > You intentionally steal farm > You intentionally KS" > These aren't fine. I'm also one of those "fuck meta" kids and i really hate when people tell me how to play. > > "You pick non-meta champs to tilt teammates" you shouldn't say "to tilt teammates", you should be asking yourself "why do those teammates tilt?" if i want to use janna adc i should be free to use it and not care if my religious mind closed people don't want me to use it. > > "You build those non-meta champs as non-meta as possible (ad mages, etc)" katarina, soraka, leblanc, i've seen those. If i report them i'll get them banned? > Good thing riot doesn't notice by ashe tank ardent support or i would be in trouble lol > > "You intentionally KS" what the fuck does this even mean lol. Who's kill? Who decided that is supposed to be someone's kill lol > > "You don't go to the lane assigned, and instead go to interfere with others" > "lane assigned" who decided my lane? and It's a thing 1. go somewhere else to help somebody and 2. go somewhere else just to get yourself killed Some champions have damage steroids. Namely adc, which is why you want them to get gold. Taking farm on janna and buying a longsword effectively reduces the dmg your team does because the adc would use that longsword with a say a 110% attackspeed steroid on W like Tristana has. It actively hurts your team, and as such can be an effective means of trolling. By going out of your way to take and deny farm. Similar things apply to lanes and such. It's called meta for a reason; Most Effective Tactic Available. You don't need to follow it by heart, but blatantly ignoring will likely hurt your teams chances of winning. That said, you do you.
: > [{quoted}](name=Je suis Rubick,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yr6uPAuF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-04-04T22:31:56.893+0000) > > hexdrinker on lucian > > keeko https://s1.webmshare.com/JnNGW.webm
> [{quoted}](name=taleofsonata,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yr6uPAuF,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-04-04T22:33:56.654+0000) > > https://s1.webmshare.com/JnNGW.webm Why did you suddenly stop? You didn't even auto attack, you just turned slightly golden and stood there. Lucian has no cc, what happened?
: Playing Off Meta in Ranked = Int Feeding ban?
SCHOOLED! Bye Felicia. But legit, dude, why? Who hurt you? Play mario kart if you like screwing people over.
: Rework Concept: Mordekaiser, the Iron Revenant
: Do you think that making support go back to being a position that nobody wants is worth getting rid of catch up experience? Consider what a drastic reduction in the support population would do to queue times. Edit: Also, don't forget that this is about how the worst player who is behind in experience can catch up and remain relevant, thus making catch up experience a system that reduces how bad a "bad player" is for the team.
> [{quoted}](name=Baron of Bread,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F2EN0A6A,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-04-04T03:07:18.516+0000) > > Do you think that making support go back to being a position that nobody wants is worth getting rid of catch up experience? Consider what a drastic reduction in the support population would do to queue times. > > Edit: Also, don't forget that this is about how the worst player who is behind in experience can catch up and remain relevant, thus making catch up experience a system that reduces how bad a "bad player" is for the team. There is not even need for it. Before there was a specific mastery that effectively gave supports more catch-up xp by being near higher lvl allies. Smack it on the support items like they did Bandit and presto, done.
Raoul (EUW)
: Good reworks vs bad reworks
Swain ult kinda gives it away tho. And I feel he is a more nuanced version of his old self. That whole 'lets just morph and feast' thing always felt kinda off. Awesome as it might have been (in URF).
: Playing Off Meta in Ranked = Int Feeding ban?
Wait, how did you get banned for inting and feeding in a game with a 0/11/11 jungler and 6/14/7 top/midlaner? Sure, building crit on Xerath is odd. But it looks like the enemy was fed and stacking MR against a 4x AP team. It's a viable adaptation at that point just to survive midgame. Teleport/flash Janna with an adc build is suspect tho. But, given you have most farm in the game barring the GP. No, why do you have so much farm? Jhin looks starving.
F1SHEYES (NA)
: So you know how towers/objectives/minions have emotes for April Foods?
It started with a forced laugh on Singed fling. Now, they are forcing us to emote. What is next? WHAT IS NEXT!!!??!?!?1?11?1~!??eleven!!
: I don't understand how these type of people function on a day to day basis...
It's a fair point tho. Mechanically difficult champions that have a high skillfloor are bad OFA choices. Especially when melee and just going adc build isn't an option.
: What classifies a champion as a certain laner?
Viability. Teemo for instance is a bad jungler. His clear isn't good, he has no catching cc and he doesn't have burst dmg either to nuke someone down. So ganking is risky at best, and that is what junglers mostly do. Teemo is a bad adc. He doesn't have an ad or attack speed steroid in his kit, and his attackspeed and base stats are too low to really function in the role. Teemo is bad support. He offers no peel, no healing, no catching. Just poke dmg and some zone control via shrooms. Teemo is a functional but subpar midlaner. His waveclear is low and his last hitting under tower can be awkward. He can't really shove out the wave and roam pre-6. His attack pattern is predictable as he just walks up to you to auto. But he has good area control with shrooms and can help the jungler well in that regard. Teemo is a good toplaner. His movespeed boost allows him to chase kills and escape ganks. His poison and range allow him to bully and poke out most melee champions. And toplane is where those are played a lot. He makes a good splitpusher due to shroom area control and ability to go invis and escape people collapsing on him.
Rioter Comments
: Deathballing is prevalent in both high and low elo.
Because towers are weak. So nuking the wave and stalling a seige doesn't work any more.
: Public Apology to Cowsep and to the League Community
How were you wrong? Dude did a bad thing, you saw the bad thing and were disgusted by it and made a "wtf dude?" thread about it. I see no wrongdoing.
: Tanky Supports
Are you seriously complaining about melee supports when you can Aery poke them with auto attacks and cockblock them with abilities?
SkyeMoon (NA)
: Let's be real, nobody who says "It's just normals" says that because they're trying new builds/champs, they say that because there's no LP/promos on the line, so really to them it doesn't matter if they ruin the experience for their teammates who do try hard.
> [{quoted}](name=SkyeMoon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mmcM0JYJ,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-03-28T16:09:09.109+0000) > > Let's be real, nobody who says "It's just normals" says that because they're trying new builds/champs, they say that because there's no LP/promos on the line, so really to them it doesn't matter if they ruin the experience for their teammates who do try hard. The only reason to say it's just normals is to try and chill out a tryhard flamer. The one ruining the experience of others.
Looknook (NA)
: Does having dual scaling (AP/AD) serve a purpose? (Opinion)
Dual scaling is fun and versatile. If we are more talking Sion E scaling 40% off AP for instance. Not so much a Kat with 200% scaling.
: Remember that 2018 ranked message we all got?
I ended last season on gold 5 0lp. I was placed in gold 5. I'm done for the season, and also not placed lower.
Zenios (NA)
: Why maintenance in the day and not in middle of the night?
It's always night somewhere. And it's in the day because that is when most people work. Such as codeslingers.
: That is not the best mana sustain for some champions and this change is a severe nerf to said champions. I hate this change as a Taric player. Taric can spend about 600 mana in 7 seconds. That's more than his entire mana pool until he reaches level 8. The presence of mind change will make my early game way weaker.
> [{quoted}](name=AlienPrimate,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pNZlwm8x,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-03-28T14:13:26.789+0000) > > That is not the best mana sustain for some champions and this change is a sever nerf to said champions. I hate this change as a Taric player. Taric can spend about 600 mana in 7 seconds. That's more than his entire mana pool until he reaches level 8. The presence of mind change will make my early game way weaker. Yes, much like Amumu can cry till he runs out of mana; A Taric that spams heals and auto attacks will run out of mana. It's part of the power budget. Short bursts of infinite mana was a bad idea tbh and made champions like Kassadin, Karthus and Kog'maw overbearing.
Venompaw (NA)
: People throw because of my summoner spells and rune choices.
Splitpusher with early gold advantage. Sounds perfectly viable. It's just that people like their adc there at the start of the fight.
Poske (EUNE)
: Does anyone actually take anything tenacity related since 2015 rofl?
> [{quoted}](name=Poske,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pNZlwm8x,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-28T11:10:08.406+0000) > > Does anyone actually take anything tenacity related since 2015 rofl? Tanks that like to move or cast abilities after their initiating maneuver. For one.
: The keystone itself did that much damage.
> [{quoted}](name=Freevageeter,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QM0g9EvP,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-03-28T10:07:20.985+0000) > > The keystone itself did that much damage. Got a match link? This is obviously a posting smurf.
: Games are too snowbally and Riot wants to make them more snowbally
I'm more concerned about them nerfing {{item:3308}} passive gold generation. This means I won't get any more gold out of laning phase. Nobody ever lets me proc my stacks and the execute is too low come mid-lategame to even blame them for it. It's a struggle.
: Just played against a Tryndamere who did 13,891 true damage with Conqueror.
Did he have Conquerer and deal that much true dmg. Or did all that true dmg come from conquerer? Because I somehow doubt he did 70k dmg. Now, remember that ignite and Mountain Drake vs objectives also deals true dmg. Did it specify champions?
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