: > [{quoted}](name=Pale Mask,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cYEiZa9g,comment-id=00020000000000020001,timestamp=2019-09-20T18:48:24.086+0000) > > Sorry, but Jax doesn't win over any of those characters you've listed. He is an experienced fighter, and that's about it. To use your own examples, Cho'Gath is an unearthly horror of titanic proportions whose very presence would drive him mad, Syndra could ragdoll him around and snap his neck whenever she wanted, and Xerath could kill him with a pulse of magic from so far away he wouldn't even know what hit him. > > He's not human, no, but he's not a superman either. He doesn't have any extreme abilities to take on any of the real power players of Runeterra. He struggled a lot against an average Ascended warrior, and the beings you've listed surpass those in power. This is exactly why he's gathering _other skilled fighters_ to combat the Void beside him: because _he cannot do so alone_. Yet neither of those characters would display any virtue of combat in doing those things. Neither of them would take any risk. Being badass is not merely the power one possesses. It's what you do with the power you possess in the presence of danger, some enemy etc. Even if jax was doomed to die to any of those characters, as long as he CHOSE to fight them for some reasonable person (and not mere stupidity or insanity), he would display more badassery in his courage alone, than any of them combined.
No? That's how _you_ decide to see it. I don't think someone needs to be heroic to be badass. I'd find Syndra walking in on a battlefield and crushing everyone around much more badass than Jax swinging his lamp around. Or Xerath just ragdolling Nasus around like he did in Bloodline. I don't believe you need to be physically imposing (as you implied in another answer) to be badass. Or heroic. Or emulated. To me, being able to defy countless enemies with the sheer amount of power you possess is infinitely more badass than Jax. I don't understand why you're trying to argue that being badass is a universal thing when it really is all about what one perceives and prefers.
: > [{quoted}](name=Falrein,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cYEiZa9g,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-09-20T12:22:26.873+0000) > > Oh no, no, that I know it's just... Well allow me to say it crudely but it's kind of laughable? > > I mean don't get me wrong I am sure Jax, in the IoW lore, was a great fighter. But in Runeterra (even the one back then), with champions such as Syndra or Xerath or... Well you get the point, I'm not sure a simple mastery weapons is enough to make you "the most powerful being". This is why I don't view him as _the_ badass. I mean it's completely objective anyway but surely you'll understand what I mean! But being badass just revolve around objective or relative power. It's also about personality, grit, being about action and not just words, etc. I'd even argue that neither xerath or syndra are badass at all. they're kind of pansies when you get right down to it. Jax's lore may be written in silly manner, and I may have bashed it previously in this very same thread, but jax is most certainly a badass (if not the most badass), and certainly more badass than paddycake xerath and hopscotch syndra. Think of it this way. Archers were very dangerous in medieval times, especially longbow men and crossbowmen when used properly in battle. But the swordsmen and knights on horseback were FAR more respected. They were widely looked upon as the true badasses, because they were physical and had to look their enemy in the eye and subject themselves to a far greater risk of harm. If I were being honest here, I'd place champs like azir, xerath, syndra, etc, at the back end of any compiled list of league badasses ranked 1-150.
I fundamentally disagree, which is why I said it was subjective. I consider Syndra and Xerath far more badass than Jax, for instance. Xerath started as a slave and worked his way through being the most powerful Ascended ever created. Syndra was locked down by the very land, and everyone tried to contain her, yet she outlived them all. Both could just throw a tantrum and create massive destruction. Also you can't call Syndra and Xerath pansies. You may not consider them badass, that's your opinion. But pansies? After what they've been through -which may not be as bad as other champions, it doesn't change that simple fact- and where they still are, and how powerful they are, calling them pansies?
: Before the complete overhaul of the lore of League of Legends, Jax was the most powerful being in the game more or less, the grantmaster of all forms of weaponry he was so skilled that he had set the longest win streak the Institute of War had seen, winning all 152 battles he had been in. Concern grew that Jax was too powerful and would simply win each battle he was in for whatever realm choose to take him and thus special rules had to be made as to handicap Jax' skill in battle, In protest Jax gave up his weapons and instead vowed only to fight with a brass lamppost as a means of handicapping himself and as a show of his skill.
Oh no, no, that I know it's just... Well allow me to say it crudely but it's kind of laughable? I mean don't get me wrong I am sure Jax, in the IoW lore, was a great fighter. But in Runeterra (even the one back then), with champions such as Syndra or Xerath or... Well you get the point, I'm not sure a simple mastery weapons is enough to make you "the most powerful being". This is why I don't view him as _the_ badass. I mean it's completely objective anyway but surely you'll understand what I mean!
Adder (OCE)
: Jax is just a purple lump. He's supposed to be THE bad ass of League.
Why, if I may ask, is he supposed to be _the_ badass of League? Did I miss something? {{sticker:sg-zephyr}}
: Argh! Why did the writers do Morgana so dirty like that in the immortal journey line?!
Mmh... While I technically agree, I think it's fine to have a different turn on the character. Sure, she is very different from her prime canon self, but I feel like it's an interesting turn. She cares about gods instead of caring for mortals! She doesn't have to be nice and/or all about mortals in every skinline. I feel like this is what skinlines are for, to give something different to a character. Sure, a lot of skins retain something from the prime canon, but I don't think it's mandatory. I believe a character doesn't have to be nice and just to be likeable! Edit - plus I really like the part where she crushed Irelia in combat lmao
: Am I the only person who hasn't done a birthday thread for their champion yet? Jhin, hurry up and turn 4, damn it. Anyway, happy birthday, Syndra. Also... _What manner of shenanigans are you people planning?_
Soon :tm:! Shenanigans...? I would _never_... :)
: Syndra is a well-designed champion. Fun to play as, not insanely toxic to play against, cool lore. I wish that could be said for every champ
I like Syndra's design but I think it can be better... I won't say more :x But yeah, agreed :p
: TOGETHER! TOGETHER!
Rioter Comments
: Maybe that's why Riot has Syndra allied with Zed even if only currently as some simple list of friends and foes on her League page. Hes probably the best candidate to be her hypothetical Vision, even if he's the "evil" version. Zed also opposes Balance in his own way in that he is Shens adversary, and she might be aware that the Eye of Twilight is the paragon of Balance. So temporarily joining with Zed even if only to help her transition from a state of directionless anger to one of more deliberate deconstruction of Ionias balance by gathering a following of those that agree with her stance on how Ionia needs to change to move foward might be the best thing. However Zed currently isn't in a position to take on that role as he's dealing with a lot of his own things: gathering nature magic and fighting off vastaya, and teaming up with Shen to take out Jhin. A few things can happen either Zeds and Shens teamup is pushed back in the timeline to develop a quick relationship with Syndra (how i don't kno, maybe she notices the pull of nature magic he collects and goes to investigate and finds him). He becomes her Vision for a short while, and then he teams up with Shen and she breaks ties with him. Or you'd have to wait until the Shen/Zed/Jhin arc is finished. Personally idk how an NPC version of Vision would work, they need to be a pretty strong respectable person with a certain lvl of influence and against balance for Syndra to listen...
There are two things I hate in this world - Seafood, and Zed/Syndra relationships. More seriously tho I've never been a fan of the idea. Especially after Syndra's new lore. She's been sold as a huge threat to Ionia, and Zed is a nationalist. He would probably either want to kill her or weaponize her. On the other hand, I highly doubt Syndra would see eye to eye with Zed, he's kind of a tyrant extremist, and that's not something Syndra is fond of. I don't think it would need someone powerful and influent. I mean, compared to Syndra, it'd be the same whether it's an NPC or not lmao. She doesn't necessarily needs someone _against_ balance, as that kind of implies she can't make her own choices, imho
: I main syndra and morg and saw your twitter banner, can you please ask your artist to create one for me similar to kayle and morgans splashart facing each other. I want it for my youtube banner and would appreciate your help!
Oh hum well I commissioned it because... You know, you can't exactly get things for free in this world :p But if you're interested, do contact her, I believe her Twitter account is @LadyStegosaurus!
: > [{quoted}](name=Falrein,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=cvLQlnjZ,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-03T14:25:53.158+0000) > > I guess Ryze is a weakling then :thonk: Nah he paid the ultimate price for his power. He now has to have blue balls for the rest of his entire life (which is already p long)
That's not even a huge price. Nop, not convinced :/
: Power usually comes with a price Syndra is so powerful in exchange for getting no lore
Rioter Comments
9NexterCz9 (EUNE)
: Which story would you like to move forward after demacia ?
Ironically Demacia is host to Kayle and Morgana and I'd love to see their stories move forward. But otherwise, I'd like some follow up on Syndra's situation! She still lacks characterization and an actual goal.
Bevdog101 (OCE)
: My thoughts on Voice actors and legendaries.
See, I wondered as well. So I did ask Julian on Twitter. [Here is a link to my tweet, check the answers.](https://twitter.com/Falrein/status/1125813534821109761) I would love some VO updates, especially for the champions I play. Sadly, it's not that easy...
: This is the very first post about Syndra that I read in months and it is very interesting indeed. I haven't yet caught up to her new lore, but I guess it has also changed since her old lore was that she had her powers imprisoned as a kid and released them like 15-20 years later in a fit of rage, but that based on generational birth she'd be about Irelia's age. This is extremely interesting and I will probably take the read this week.
Well... Truth be told I often post Syndra threads haha. Well, I'm not gonna spoil it too much then but it has changed quite a lot yes - and I agree, I think physically (and mentally) she'd be around Irelia's age, maybe a bit younger, but if you count all the years she's spent in the Pool... Well, she's a grandma, basically... :p
alekzu (EUW)
: You know, maybe the people might be annoyed by the amount of Syndra threads that you make and even that you try to fit her in, in everything and everywhere...but I, at least, don't care. Your dedication to your champ is so big that you come up with those amazing headcanons and theories. And what is better than trying to come up with ideas that make your favourite champ more than what it already is... I am really curious, since Syndra was imprisoned during a time when Ionia was full pacifist mode and now when she awakened from her prison after the Noxian war, would she notice the change trough which the land and people went(if they did at all)? So that it could act like a testimony that people can change and maybe accept her for who she is? She is flying with a half fortress after all so she should be able to observe. And even then, would their judgment be clouded by her curse name even if it was used only to scare delinquents?
OMG thank you so much T_T If you like those... Well, I assume you're gonna like what's next... 'Cause it's gonna be huge! I assume at some point she would notice the changes, but so far I'd say her judgement is clouded by her anger. And in turn, given Ionia's current status (some sort of... weird... civil war), a lot of people would either try to kill her or use her. Obviously some people would be more forgiving (as seen in Confessions of a Broken Blade) tho! The problem is so far she's only met people trying to kill her, manipulateur her, and they insulted her. I think Syndra's path is gonna be influenced a lot by her next encounters. The more people will try to come at her with malicious intent, the more she'll turn into a big bad. But if she met people trying to be nice, to understand her, she would probably turn "nice" (well, things are not as binary but you get the idea!). I personally think Syndra should be an actor in whatever conflict is going on in Ionia, and that she should actively try to do her thing and change Ionia... She probably believes Balance is responsible for everything that happened to her... So would she try to change it? After all, isn't balance but a barrier, preventing Ionia to see its true potential...? Of course it's questionnable, some would say it's good, some wouldn't, so that'd be an interesting angle to tackle... But that's just me :p
Rioter Comments
Leivve (NA)
: Why are there no pro-Noxus factions in Ionia?
I mean... Noxus came, and massacred them and their lands? Do remember that before that, everyone had a good life (well, barring Jhin the murderer and Syndra the emotional disaster), the Spirit of the land bringing them sustenance and everything they needed. It's not like there were people (apart from the Vastaya) who lived in absolute misery. They were living just fine until Noxus came and destroyed all this. It would make little sense for a whole group to join Noxus. As I said, they massacred the people and destroyed the land. Why would they join them willingly when it completely shattered their peaceful life? We have one account of Ionian joining Noxus and he didn't even do it willingly. If you want to talk about how Balance is a barrier that blinds people to their true potential, and needs to be shattered, you don't have to go to Noxus for that. Just use Syndra. Balance is what led her to where she is today, let her have a grudge against it, try to change it. Noxus isn't needed. It's been invading Ionia's lore (pun unintended) too much, and they really could use some storylines that don't involve Noxus. You don't need to go outside Ionia to find someone whose going against balance, imho.
Abandon (OCE)
: Riot Games, you really NAILED this one.
Anthony is a god. I love his writing, I genuinely think it's both super good and accessible. I hope he'll get to write for me favourite champions (again?) in the future!
: OH ME GURSH I SHIP IT NOW!!! Syndra x Vel'Koz
What have I done...? :')
Rioter Comments
: Could it be a way to tie in the immortal journey lore to Runeterra? Scathlocke says it's just an alternate fantasy, but the possibilities of pairing some of the immortal journey characters with their Runeterran selves sounds like heartwarming waiting to happen.
Skin lore are entirely different lores and should (and will) stay separate Universes. I don't believe merging skinverses with the main Universe is a good thing to do...
Lewanor (NA)
: https://cdna.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/009/754/180/large/konstantin-turovec-028.jpg?1520713381 *For the Stormwind*, **For The King** and ***FOR THE ALLIANCE!***
Horde... Alliance... They mean nothing to the Old Gods.
: If that was to happen I'd.... actually be interested in Ionia. Seems like a very badass and interesting way to open some plots
It'd be interesting yeah. Also part of this has me interested because it'd open some very nice possibilities for Syndra, and would allow her to actually use her powers. It could even spawn an interesting champion actually!
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Falrein,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OovFsBvr,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-10T23:01:22.032+0000) > > No? Syndra is inexperienced and doesn't have much magical knowledge. Arguably Azir doesn't have much either, but still. > > Now, I know a certain _someone_ will jump at my throat for saying this, but the only way Syndra would stand a chance is in a place with no sand. Should she have access to her full potential? That's another story. But in the current state of things, that's what it is. What about syndra at full potential
We don't know what that would look like. But I assume it would be quite a terrifying sight, yes...
: > [{quoted}](name=Falrein,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=OovFsBvr,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-10T22:54:59.260+0000) > > I mean... You're giving Azir home advantage and an endless supply of sand, obviously he would win. ik but he would lose without access to sand
No? Syndra is inexperienced and doesn't have much magical knowledge. Arguably Azir doesn't have much either, but still. Now, I know a certain _someone_ will jump at my throat for saying this, but the only way Syndra would stand a chance is in a place with no sand. Should she have access to her full potential? That's another story. But in the current state of things, that's what it is.
: Syndra Vs Azir in Shurima
I mean... You're giving Azir home advantage and an endless supply of sand, obviously he would win.
: Does Demacia even trade with other nations, though?
Not officially no (apart maybe from their allied nations like Arbormark and stuff), but there may be Black Markets!
: Star Guardian Chapter 3
"Kayle as the legendary" That would be the biggest nop of all times lol. She already has one, and even though Riot _has_ given more than one legendary in the past, I doubt Kayle is popular enough. If anything, Morgana is more likely to get it (and she could use one, actually). I'm not sure Diana would fit well...? I think Neeko and/or Taliyah would be a better fit.
: Kayle, Mt Targon and the Protector
From what I remember from Kayle and Morgana's AMA, they decided not to include Targonian interactions because they wanted to focus on them being Demacian, and their views on justice. Though, I'm gonna admit I'm a bit disappointed by their interactions, it's the only negative point in their VOs to me, they are rather... Lacking. But anyway. ______________________________ Taric embodies the Celestial concept of the Protector, while Kayle is just the deity they named Protector (it probably stayed from the original Winged Protectors). Arguably, Taric being influenced by Demacian faith may have influenced the Protector's decision of choosing him, but I'm not sure, given the Winged Protector and the Celestial concept known as the Protector seem to have very different ideologies. I'm unsure if Taric will play a role in K&M's reconciliation tho. Some would argue that he will, some that he won't. I'm personally not fond of the idea, as I'd rather them working on their issues on their own but well, only time will tell! __________________________________ And last but not least, I'm fairly certain Kayle _did_ make it to the Celestial Realm. She's probably been training with Targon, becoming their perfect little soldier... But isn't she blinded by her admiration towards them...? Are they as perfect as she thinks they are...? :p
: Last time I checked, she said "you're Ionians, so you're my enemies", or something to that extent. She's...not friendly, to put it lightly.
A bit of context * That's the first thing she hears after waking up 'please aid us'. Understandable reaction. * She was very angry at that very moment - I'm sure we've all exaggerated things. Even then, it doesn't make her 'hellbent on revenge'. She didn't outward say "I will kill every last one of you". * No, she's not friendly, because people haven't been friendly to her. It doesn't exactly mean 'revenge'. For all we know, she may just want to be left alone. I know Syndra's stories. I've read them countless times. _nothing_ says she's hellbent on revenge. We don't even know what she wants.
: Because lorewise, she's basically a teenager hellbent on revenge against everyone for the actions of a few well-intentioned people with vastly too much power, and is extremely socially stunted. She's closer to a force of nature than she is a character.
> Because lorewise, she's basically a teenager hellbent on revenge against everyone Is she? Last time I checked, she swore she would not be controlled, not that she would destroy Ionia, or kill anyone? If anything, she's lacking a goal right now. > for the actions of a few well-intentioned people Her family? Bullied her. Her mentor? Sealed her powers without her knowledge and consent. The very fcking land? Emprisoned her. Everyone who happened in The Dreaming Pool? Her jailor, someone who tried to kill her, and someone who wanted to use her. > and is extremely socially stunted. Yeaaaaah I can't blame her for that, it's not like anyone ever tried to give her a chance or anything.
: Zed x Syndra is one of those ships that I saw one really cute comic of but beyond that don't really believe would actually work or make sense. They haven't really addressed exactly WHAT role Syndra will have, they've basically just acknowledged that she will have a role, which is a little annoying. That, and it felt really weird that they had to find an excuse to take her out of the story for the duration of the war. And then the land...swallowed her up??? What? I appreciate the world-building of the story to free her, but overall it felt weird that she had to be taken out of the story in such an awkward way.
Yeah, the comic was good, but... No, the ship doesn't make sense to me. But anyway! I agree that the whole Spirit of Ionia swallowing her up is a bit uh... Weird, and this is the part I like the least in her new story. I think, with some more explanations, it could make more sense, maybe if you tie it to whatever the origins of her powers are, anyway, I'm trying not to focus too much on that really because eh. As I said many times before, I agree that she's in a weird position right now. Stories could go on without her being touched and it would change nothing. But I doubt there'd be any point in releasing her from her sleep at this very moment if she were to have no impact. I'm not gonna repeat everything I've said in all my previous posts, but basically!
: > [{quoted}](name=Falrein,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=1MW2EQH6,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-01T07:55:04.539+0000) > > https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457316449594245150/606392673989033995/FB_IMG_1563969906701.jpg > > No. Zed x Syndra is an abomination that needs to be eradicated. > > I agree that she lacks a story to properly set her up in whatever's happening in Ionia. But it doesn't change anything to what I said - the potential is there. She hasn't had an impact _yet._ You can't convince me that someone born with such tremendous power won't have any impact. > I do acknowledge that her lore update left a big hole in that she's currently in a vacuum. But I am a patient man, and a color story should come for her at some point. If everything goes well, before next Autumn. All that to say - I still stand by everything I wrote earlier! Thing is she hasn't had anything big happen, she stole a packed up (a literal temple tbf) and moved out to do (to be continued next season on Dragon ball Z) She isn't really shown taking part in the conflict going on in Ionia (Between the Ninjas, the people, or the invading army) Its like the world runes except they actually shaped the world Syndra (for the time being) is just carrying around a temple being edgy
As I said - You asked for "if given more lore". I'm simply following the rules of your game. She hasn't taken part in the conflict yet because she has just waken up, but don't expect a flying half fortress with a mage wielding incredible power to go unnoticed. I have written countless threads about Syndra and all her potential storylines (and I'm not even done, something even bigger is coming). She's there in a vacuum, but she won't stay. So yes, to me, given more lore, Syndra would be more interesting than Garen. I am not interested in a Demacian loyalist spinning his sword around.
: Syndra hasn't got enough going for her in the current world, if the zed x syndra meme were even kinda true I think she would feel more grounded because right now she's like edgy powerful mage lady that's not really had any impact I'm my opinion
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/457316449594245150/606392673989033995/FB_IMG_1563969906701.jpg No. Zed x Syndra is an abomination that needs to be eradicated. I agree that she lacks a story to properly set her up in whatever's happening in Ionia. But it doesn't change anything to what I said - the potential is there. She hasn't had an impact _yet._ You can't convince me that someone born with such tremendous power won't have any impact. I do acknowledge that her lore update left a big hole in that she's currently in a vacuum. But I am a patient man, and a color story should come for her at some point. If everything goes well, before next Autumn. All that to say - I still stand by everything I wrote earlier!
: [Controversial] Who I think could have the best written lore in league if they got more added
Mmh... I think there is no "best written lore". Some champions appeal more than others, and for various reasons. If those are your criteria, alright. But they are way too generic, and something most champions should/will have (given your whole point is about "if they got more lore added"). See, funnily enough, not so long ago our lord and savior Scathelocke wrote this > Some Sunday thoughts. The minimum - MINIMUM! - level of authentic worldbuilding for a group/faction/character is basically: > >1) What do they believe in/want? > 2) Why do they think it's a good thing? > 3) Why might others disagree? > 4) What's currently preventing them from succeeding? This isn't about "best written lore" but rather... Well what's written there really. For MOST champions you can find something. And from there on, it's up to personal preferences. Garen? I loathe Garen. I don't like his values, the character isn't interesting to me. The tale of troubled siblings? I'd rather see the heartbreaking reunion and make up story of Kayle and Morgana. A strong warrior? Why not, I myself am more of a huge magical power person - I'd prefer the huge magical potential of Syndra being developped throughout stories. Human warrior? Some prefer gods or ugly creatures. All in all it really comes down to personal preferences really. Some may find Garen's story too simple to like it, and would prefer some more original stories about Celestials or Spirit Realm, etc. I think there is potential for everyone, but not everyone sees the potential in these characters. I could write down an essay about why I think Syndra's lore could be better than Garen's, but ultimately you (and other people) may disagree and not see what I see in her, which is fine.
: They are confirmed to be working on a game that's been in development for a long while now. One of the big Riot creators (I forget his name) was moved to R&D supposedly because they have something very promising that they need some real talent to sit there and work on.
I know. I even know Riot has trademarked names such as Riot Forge, Legends of Runeterra, and League of Legends: Supremacy (I'm unsure about the last one's name) lately. They even have writers and narrative designers working on something in R&D. I know all this. It doesn't change anything to what I said tho
coreym11 (NA)
: Why doesn't league have a game based around it's lore already?
I **really** need to just create a google sheet and copy/paste the same message when people say that. It'd save me some time. Anyway, let's address the first issue - the MMO Well, not taking into account the fact that Cactopus said no MMO was coming, let's talk about it. MMOs are a risky bet. A very, very, VERY risky bet. WoW capitalizes the market of the MMO. They're THE big giant. Add to that that the MMO market has been declining. Sure, you could say "people may like something new, it may be the game that will bring MMOs back to the fore!" and you could be right. But you could also be wrong. Riot, as a company, probably cannot afford to take such a risk. It's either hit or miss. Now don't get me wrong, I would love that as much as you would. I love MMOs, yet cannot find anything that appeals to me as of now. And I'm sure there are others like me. But are these others enough...? ____________________________________ On a more general matter tho, I entirely agree. They NEED to make a game based off their lore. They did say they wanted to open Runeterra to a "whole new audience" so we just have to wait and see. Probably expect something on October 27th. I'm confident they will release such game. I think Riot are smart enough to know that such an IP could be a great addition to their revenue. What I'm mostly afraid of is that they'll only use the popular champs. A MMO would be great in that it could include all of them, but we know it ain't happening. So yeah, let's be patient and see... We gotta trust :/
: Can Azirs Sand Soldiers be killed?
Well, arguably they aren't really alive, they are creations made of sand. Now, whether or not they do contain soul fragments is unsure - Taliyah seems to imply so, but we don't know really. So, could you destroy them? Sure. Why couldn't you? However, I'd assume dependingo n the means used to destroy them, they can come back, as Azir can just make them rise once more. You could wonder tho, if you have enough magical knowledge, can you use magic to destroy them so that they don't come back?
: {{champion:134}} she literally passively keeps her whole home floating in the sky, while she floats, and was literally locked away for being too damn strong
Well this post was originally intended as a joke - but the short answer would be that Syndra has more raw power output than Ryze does. It's been demonstrated in her bio and in The Dreaming Pool that she wields tremendous amount of power. However, Ryze is more skilled at using magic than Syndra, as he's had a millenia of practice and learning, while Syndra is still young. So then it's all about what your prioritize I guess, skill or raw power :p (raw power ftw btw)
: I choose to abuse my position of perceived power and state that mangoes are tastier in Runeterra. So there.
YES! Bio we love you so much! {{sticker:sg-ahri-2}}
: Which one is tastier in the world of Runeterra, mangos or pineapples?
Rioter Comments
Lewanor (NA)
: This whole year is trash, hopefully the reason is the game they are working on. Otherwise...
Watch that mouth rude little Lewanor è.é
: What Champions would you like to see featured if Riot created a new Cinematic?
Hardly a surprise, I'd love to see Syndra in one. But ah, I'm no fool. She's got neither the lore relevance nor the popularity. Two that I would love to see however are {{champion:10}} and {{champion:25}}. I just think a cinematic version of them would be dope, with the wings and stuff.
: Who would win(lorewise): Zed V.S Pyke
Well, Scathelocke might pop and say it's a "my dad vs your dad" situation but... It depends I guess. The thing with Pyke is that he keeps coming back when he dies. However, Zed's shadow magic is a form of Spirit Magic, and as Pyke is a spectre, it may have effects on that resurrection. It's all theoretical anyway, there's a low chance of the two of them meeting, as well as not many info on both of them. Although I'm inclined to say there are people who would be better than Zed at slaying Spirits or any Spirital entities (which undead are a part of) tbh - Shen and Syndra come to mind, as one is specialized in that and the other has spirit/soul bamboozling powers. It really depends on what Zed's magic is capable of in the end, as Zed is arguably more trained than Pyke in term of combat.
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