: Why does the new Aatrox look like he has lipstick on?
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=j6IIQKee,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-23T00:35:25.209+0000) > > Shadow Isles is a bigger threat IMO. Its magic can overwhelm even ascended and voidborns according to Riot. I think darkins are not exceptions. > > It also grows like the Void. More it consumes, stronger it is. > > I can change my mind though. We still don't have Aatrox bio. Maybe darkins are stronger than I expect I might point out that in Aatrox's teaser he takes out an entire army by himself. That was just one darkin, imagine five altogether They would be unstoppable
Ascended do that too. Most of them are dead now. Same for the darkin. Almost all of them are dead. Ascended and Darkin are two of the most potent beings of Runeterra. But they are not invincible.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=j6IIQKee,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-23T16:37:36.897+0000) > > "Probably" > > Yeah I definitely dont think so. We don't have any evidence. Hmm, let me think, how did the noxians revive sion? Oh, right with a well that contained a **darkin** I think that we have plenty of evidence
>Hmm, let me think, how did the noxians revive sion? Oh, right with a well that contained a darkin Where? I really want a source. >I think that we have plenty of evidence Show me this plenty of evidences.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=j6IIQKee,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-06-23T16:29:48.962+0000) > > No you are not correct. It wasn't the darkin. It was Ruined King. He tried to resurrect his wife in the blessed water of the isles. Her corpse created the Black Mist and it corrupted the entire land. Using a magic well that probably contained a darkin
"Probably" Yeah I definitely dont think so. We don't have any evidence.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=j6IIQKee,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-06-23T00:35:25.209+0000) > > Shadow Isles is a bigger threat IMO. Its magic can overwhelm even ascended and voidborns according to Riot. I think darkins are not exceptions. > > It also grows like the Void. More it consumes, stronger it is. > > I can change my mind though. We still don't have Aatrox bio. Maybe darkins are stronger than I expect. If I am correct and one of the darkin is in the shadow Ilse than that darkin **created** the black mist and the shadow Ilse
No you are not correct. It wasn't the darkin. It was Ruined King. He tried to resurrect his wife in the blessed water of the isles. Her corpse created the Black Mist and it corrupted the entire land.
: Can we all agree that the Darkin are the main antagonists of league of legends?
Shadow Isles is a bigger threat IMO. Its magic can overwhelm even ascended and voidborns according to Riot. I think darkins are not exceptions. It also grows like the Void. More it consumes, stronger it is. I can change my mind though. We still don't have Aatrox bio. Maybe darkins are stronger than I expect.
: All these people saying she isn't ugly. Lol. She was designed to be plain as fuck. That doesn't make me an asshole. She's normal. Like most of us. Absolutely nothing wrong with that. Also nothing wrong in saying there's nothing attractive about her.
>All these people saying she isn't ugly. >She's **normal.** **Normal.** **NORMAL.** ??? Which means she isn't ugly. Exactly what are we talking about. Sure she is not a model, not perfect, doesn't mean she is ugly. She is average, but still cute.
: Why is Taliyah so Taliyugly?
I find her cute and think she has her own beauty. Saying that as someone who is definitely not a SJW in that topic. Actually for that reason I would say either you dont know definition of ugly or you have termosphere level standards or have biase against unfamiliar features presented in video games. It could because of her personality but she is one of the cutest champions in the game IMO.
: Wow, that's such an improvement
Cryotron (NA)
: {{champion:266}}{{champion:141}}{{champion:110}} - Even though Riot didn't know what the hell are they supposed to do with the Darkin upon Aatrox release, I am quite fascinated by those creatures. Normally I am not big fan of infernal creatures but after the releases so far with Kayn and the new Aatrox (in contrast that some majority of the people dislike it), I want to know more about them. Though the Varus retcon was kinda meh because I am very anxious to call him Vaarus now and the new Aatrox enforces that meme... But they have some pretty fun personalities. Both Aatrox and Rhaast that is... I hope Varus can get a VGU then if that's the case? I want to see a Darkin's full character... especially the female one. {{champion:136}} - Because he's a Space Dragon. That's why. {{champion:268}} - **The Summoner Archetype** in League of Legends. I am a Summoner. I don't mean League Summoner but Summoner who control minions to do my bidding. Azir fits that archetype the most so far... {{champion:53}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:61}} - For robots, these machines got quite a character in them. Especially Camille, she's very classy. {{champion:9}} {{champion:120}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:30}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:14}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:6}} {{champion:83}} - You know, I've always been a big fan of undead creatures for some reason. Maybe it's because I actually grew up with D2 Necromancer and see Undead Minions as friends to level up with and go along with my own adveuture. In fact, Karthus the Lich actually made some solid foundation with me playing League. Mordekaiser is actually my SECOND champion I've ever played in League of Legends as well as he's one of those overlord archetype. Urgot is an UNDEAD CYBORG. Pyke is a Underwater Wraith that has not been raised by the Black Mist, Void or Nagakabouros so his existance is an enigma. You get the rest... However, I have not added Kindred to this list because... _I don't know._ Maybe I don't like the champ. {{champion:202}} - If you don't like this champion's obsession with aesthetics, you have no soul. I personally think Jhin should be on everyone's list despite him being a psychopath that murders everyone in the name of art. Oddly attaching. {{champion:38}} - I kinda saw Kassadin as the Darth Vader in League of Legends but the more I play the game, I found out that's not the case at all. I just put him in because he's actually the First Champion I've ever played in League and his joke doesn't even make sense anymore... Oh well. {{champion:31}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:96}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:161}} - Voidborne creatures pack a SERIOUS punch in League of Legends. I just wish that Malzahar was a bit likable for me... As for Kai'sa... >_> {{champion:54}} - Because he's a rock. {{champion:240}} - Stressful to Play but hilarious dialogues. {{champion:68}} - I like to flame people..._ Literally._ **_Both my team and enemies._** {{champion:72}} - I don't know. He's on this list because I like to play him sometimes. {{champion:112}} - What makes this guy different than the other three robots named above. First, he is a cyborg... so is Camille. But what's so different is that he's basically Moira from Overwatch that seeks what's best for the humanity... instead of usage of genetics, he uses robotics to enhance pretty much everything. His Battlecast Skin pretty much reflects on what he wants to do for the world and it may be lead to a dystopia, you can't really deny his overall determination. Plus he APPROPRIATELY has a Russian accent like but unlike the new Aatrox. {{champion:101}} - This guy is voiced by the same dude who voices Kel'Thuzad from Warcraft so yea... Plus, he is skillshot based alongside with VK. {{champion:238}} - The Unseen Swag is the Swaggiest. {{champion:115}} - Like Marvin Martian I wanna hear the world go "Kaboom".
>{{champion:101}} - This guy is voiced by the same dude who voices Kel'Thuzad from Warcraft so yea... Plus, he is skillshot based alongside with VK. Same actor who also voiced the Lich King in WoW. :) I really love this voice actor, he represents Xerath really well. I can feel the arrogance in his voice, he reflects (acts?) it perfectly.
Mews99 (NA)
: "True Ice never melts. Dark Ice is True Ice that has been corrupted."
Probably Ornn's fire breaks magic of true ice. It is still misleading though. Should be changed to "except some of rare circumstances, true ice does not melt."
: what about the gays
They are among 50%... you know, cuz, they have testicles too?
: That's just a poorly drawn shadow. Believe me, I know testicles.
> [{quoted}](name=Sèx Crazed Eve,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=QxE9EnmK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-06-16T20:42:49.494+0000) > > That's just a poorly drawn shadow. Believe me, I know testicles. At least 50% of humanity knows them pretty well lmao.
: I think that xerath is an example of a human that surpassed every expectation he became something more ( defied fate) thats why he is so overwhelmingly powerful . Azir can defeat chained xerath(in shurima) unbound is another story...
This is the architype of Xerath IMO. Transcended Mage that found his way to godhood from being a fragile human. His power should be expectional and one of the best. He is the only originally human character that can potentially rival the Targonian individuals.
WarWork (NA)
: Never said Kindred weren't spirits, I only said they were powerful and I still stand beside that, I definitely think they are more powerful than just appearing before people before they die. It seems they are omnipresent and that is quite a powerful ability. And Bard I can't remember the post probably an early one after his release or maybe I'm just wrong, but I can almost remember a red saying he's powerful but he basically only care about his duty. And so far in lore there is no omnipotent character and you say bard isn't that powerful because he can be bound, so can Aurelion Sol and you have him as number 1. About Naga k, I think it deserves more credit than you give it. It is at least on a higher level that ornn etc. Even Astro say he will need time to learn how to kill naga k. And Xereth is powerful but I doubt he's that strong, I think he's on the same level as azir at least plus riot has said his false ascension isn't complete and ascends themselves are already below the level of gods. I have a theory that Yordles and demons are two sides of the same coin, thus me ranking them together.. And human champs power varies so much so I tried to put as little of them on the list as possible because when you put some where do you stop?
Can you give me the Riot comment about Xerath's Ascension? Prepared Ascension was not meant for Xerath, that's why it went wrong. Not because he was unworthy, not because he is not fully ascended, but because it was not meant for him. Xerath is actually over ascended, it is said many times that Xerath drained entire magic of Sun Disc, and he stayed in the ritual far longer than any Ascendes ever did. So, no way Azir is more powerful than Xerath. Azir can defeat Xerath, but only in the Shurima Capital, because the city itself carries unbelivable amount of power. I think Sun Disc's core, or its magic is not from Runeterra. In my opinion, it is either a gift from Targon, or something even Targon finds interesting.
: ***
Keep calm Satan You don't wish death of someone just because you didn't like his work. I mean, I am not exactly happy about the voice either, but lore looks quitely good and exciting. It connects god-like beings which makes more sense than none knowing each other.
: What's God-King Garen's relation to Demacia?
It is united civilizations under command of Garen. A utopia where he is the almighty king of it. Demacia in that alternative universe is far bigger. It is whole world, one country. At least that's what I understood.
Cetri (NA)
: For me, it's less that he could beat them, and more that he seems harder to kill. The Ascended are powerful and long-lived, but not immortal. If you got the jump on Nasus or Renekton and had a good enough weapon you could slit their throats and that'd be that. Pyke would just dissolve into mist and then slit your throat. Getting into more speculative territory, it's also worth mentioning that I see a lot of parallels between Pyke and Ivern, as incarnations of nature's benevolence and nature's wrath, respectively. There's also the fact that the source of Pyke's powers has some sort of connection to Nagakabouros, which in my opinion puts it a tier above sun disc magic.
Ascended are beings of flesh and blood, and yes, they are immortal, but they are still magical beings. Mortal weapons cannot hurt them, says Jax. It doesn't even pierce their skin. That's why they were not afraid of archers. Jax says it takes so much effort to behead an Ascended. Nasus can fight with an mortal army single-handly, said in Bloodline. Nasus can heal himself (and likely all Ascendeds, it is probably even better in Renekton) in ridiculous speed. He healed himself completely from strikes of Xerath. And it is not only Ascended that are not immortal. Nothing is immortal, not even Aurelion Sol and Bard. Pyke is a minion of greater power, he is a ghost that cannot defeat an Ascended. Ascended carry the Power of the Sun in their blood. I mean, Nasus bisected 3 bersekers in one strike at the same time. Something I really don't Pyke can.
Cetri (NA)
: What about other nature spirits, such as Maokai, Janna, and Skaarl? Like the demons, Janna's power is contingent on humanity (in her case, belief and prayer). We also know that Maokai is susceptible to the Black Mist and logically therefore could be killed, as it's stated that the blessed water in his heartwood was what saved him from undeath. If Janna were to be forgotten entirely, it's likely she would die too. Skaarl is therefore the odd one out, funnily enough, as the drakolops is supposed to be immortal. Like Maokai, though, she was born from nature, not human prayer as with Janna, and admittedly it's also unknown if she'd be affected in some way by the Mist as well. Now that I'm thinking about it, Pyke could also be considered a nature spirit of some sort as well, and I'd probably peg him at around 5 or 6 on your chart. I'd also place the yordles and demons above ascended (just barely, though), and most Shadow Isles champs (as well as Naut) probably fall somewhere between Vastaya and Ascended.
What makes you think Pyke can defeat Nasus? Or Tahm Kench Renekton?
Spookster (OCE)
: Who's to say that any serious character has to be serious 100% of the time? It makes sense for any character to have a sense of humour, the way any person can. No matter how poor the circumstances, most characters would reasonably be able to appreciate a joke now and then, and for those who can't (Morde could likely fill this category, Noc too) it comes down to the fact that less serious lines are just fun to include for the sake of the game. Personally, I love the jokes Aatrox has, and I think it really adds to the character. If he didn't have these lines I feel like he would come across as over the top with his central thematic, and potentially edgier than Kayn. I don't see the issue with memo being in Aatrox's vocabulary either, I'd rather that than him saying MEMORANDUM, plus it means its easy to understand what he is on about.
>it comes down to the fact that less serious lines are just fun to include for the sake of the game. That's what kills the theme. How can I know which one is not related? And if it is not related, why to waste a line space with something not belongs to champion's personality? If you want funny side of characters, look at fan arts and videos. There are and will be plenty of them to satisfy you. It is better to leave out something that is off from champion's theme. Voice lines are already limited, so I would avoid wasting the space and highly prefer something what champion would exactly say from the lore over to "LULZ WHAT A MEME".
Spookster (OCE)
: Personally, I disagree that Aatrox's interactions aren't lore friendly. It makes sense (to me at least) that a character based on being an immensely powerful warrior would be somewhat mocking towards what he considers lesser opponents. Note: these quotes would not fit the old Aatrox, but that's the thing, he is very different as a character now. Being much more prideful and coming across even as cocky makes these lines feel real to me. I'll admit, some of them are a bit off (any time he says edgy EHHHH) but I like a lot of them. Of course that's just how I feel about it. I feel the funny side adds to the character, giving him more depth and realism than JUST the one-sided aspect of being this betrayed warmongering god killer. Also just a side note, characters like morde already have joke lines (that aren't there jokes) ie "You only need to click once fool" That is obviously something that would NEVER be said (maaaaybeeee in old summoner lore, but still) by Mordekaiser, but its a good interaction and it adds to the enjoyment of the character for a little of people
But jokes make me take them less serious, and when it happens, It butchers the "murder machine" for me. Jokes on some champions of course give the depth and realism, but Aatrox is not one of them IMO. Neither Mordekaiser and Nocturne. Jokes of Evelynn's are pretty well maden. How? She replies your jokes with dark humor. She says when "I pull your tongue through your neck, it will be funnier." or something similar. It is a joke reply that doesn't butcher the theme of champion. What the fuck is MEMO please... Do you really think it fits to Aatrox? Do you think Aatrox would say MEMO in lore? Mordekaiser is outdated, but his theme definitely screams "I am not a joke character." It definitely avoids jokes and fun. It should, at least.
: I feel very sad for him, but not in a good way... he is rather pathetic. Driven not only by anger, but envy, like a spoiled child who cant get want he wants and tries to take away what the others have in order to feel better about himself... He has no reasons for living anymore and decided to take the lives of others due that. Im being harsh with him? Maybe Renekton has basically the same conflict, he was a noble warrior trapped in a bad place for long time, convinced that he was betrayed by the person that he trusted more and driven to the point of Insanity... But the diference between them is that Renekton focus his anger on the one that betrayed him, not life itself like Aatrox. Even if Renekton is supposed to be the one who is insane, it is Aatrox the one with an insane goal, a goal that he will never reach.
I mean, Renekton also feels pretty brutal. "As I live, all will die!" Even though he doesn't directly aim life, he is a huge threat for the livings. He probably kills everyone on his path. Still, he is a noble warrior that is very broken. He can have heal and have redemption, so he has hope. Compare to Aatrox, which seems completely lost, Renekton is in the edge.
: Is it just me or is Aatrox VERY similar to Sargeras from Warcraft?
Aatrox seems similar to Sargeras because Sargeras is similar to Melkor, and Melkor is similar to Satan. This is definitely something I noticed but did not find it significant enough to point. It is a popular theme, benevolent power wielder turning to the dark side because of an event. Can't blame Riot. It is made by many fantasy universes. Also "World Ender"
: Yah, I put a long response on another post. But people fail to realize the placement of lines is a large part of what we do. i.e. We know "Taunts" are most often triggered while hiding in brush with friends-- so this is great place for Aatrox to show a funnier side. We know an Enemy "flashing mastery" can be tilting-- so we can make that experience less toxic for the Aatrox player with a little burn. Alos Aatrox is mostly likely calm when he walking back from base to lane early game but seriously angry late game while attacking an enemy champion. The number of lines relates to the experience and how fresh we want to keep it. (For example Jokes require more variance than serious lines. Also triggers that occur more often and/or in a more noticeable, less intense game state require more variance too. Thanks for noticing the work!{{sticker:sg-kiko}}
> [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=jRfElUcg,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-06-14T19:11:16.871+0000) > > Yah, I put a long response on another post. But people fail to realize the placement of lines is a large part of what we do. > i.e. We know "Taunts" are most often triggered while hiding in brush with friends-- so this is great place for Aatrox to show a funnier side. We know an Enemy "flashing mastery" can be tilting-- so we can make that experience less toxic for the Aatrox player with a little burn. Alos Aatrox is mostly likely calm when he walking back from base to lane early game but seriously angry late game while attacking an enemy champion. > > The number of lines relates to the experience and how fresh we want to keep it. (For example Jokes require more variance than serious lines. Also triggers that occur more often and/or in a more noticeable, less intense game state require more variance too. > > Thanks for noticing the work!{{sticker:sg-kiko}} And why would Aatrox need to show his funnier side? Does he resemble to you a funny entity? Does he look funny? He is supposed to murderer god-like being, not a clown. I really don't like how you (speaking for general, I don't have any grudge against you, you are actually one of my favourite rioters) butcher champion personalities for marketing when voice lines are one of the FEW ways to know their exact thoughts. It is the most effective way to make champion feel alive. And you butcher it to satisfy kids and their "LULZ". Yeah sure Aatrox knows what MEMO means in the story. Please, yeah I get it, you guys wanted to show to unnecessary funny side, but please, don't do that to Mordekaiser and Nocturne, champions that should be terrifying. It literally butchers the entire theme for me. I was really excited about the Aatrox voice. I did not wait for special interactions to see only yells and jokes. It definitely kills the champion for me. Because I see special interactions like "what would _the_ champion say if they ever met?" and not like "useless, never will happen in lore lines that are unnecessary and seperated from champion personality." If it not is how champion would speak in lore, please don't use them in special interactions. Joke lines are here for a reason.
GreenLore (EUW)
: Aatrox for the most part yells for some special interactions,not the whole time. Also I dunno why you think that an ancient being needs to be calm and collected,especially when it had to endure eons of imprisonment.
Xerath is kinda calm and collected, and he is likely imprisoned for longer.
: The Fall of Shurima (as in the cataclysm caused by Xerath) is not the fall of Icathia (as in the cataclysm caused by mages opening the Void). They are two different events. And _if_ Shurima's destruction predates the Darkin, why would Nasus and Renekton not have informed the people of the region about the Darkin? Nasus kept _libraries of information_, so why wouldn't people know about them?
Exactly. Fall of Shurima is after Fall of Icathia. If Fall of Shurima is older than Darkin War, then it definitely means Fall of Icathia is older than Darkin War. If Fall of Shurima is older than Darkin War, how can Renekton warn people about the darkin? He is imprisoned in the Tomb of the Emperors. Nasus couldn't either, as he wasn't aware of their existence. What if "Shurima" in Honorable defenders of Shurima is after Fall of Shurima? What if there wasn't any Ascended to defend Fallen Shurima, and for that reason people begged for help in some way, and they attracted the darkin? I mean, I remember Sharjo saying (while he was working with Riot), power difference between Ascended and Darkin are not significant and they can defeat each other, depending on the individual. I don't think they defended Shurima in its glorious time, but after it falls, when no Ascended was left (all of them being dead or vanished).
: Except that the living Ascended would have remembered and orally spoken of the Darkin at some point - _if_ they were alive during the Darkin War. Given that there are no records of the Darkin, not even from the Ascended who should have fought them (especially since the Ascended fought in the fall of Icathia), the Ascended that are living today were not alive at the time Darkin War happened. Nasus, being a record keeper, should know of the Darkin if there were records of it in Shurima, as he kept extensive libraries. Given that he doesn't, and that people are ignorant as to what Darkin are, there is no way that the fall of Icathia happened before the Darkin War.
> [{quoted}](name=Oleandervine,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Gcr1O73P,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2018-06-13T16:37:03.071+0000) > > Except that the living Ascended would have remembered and orally spoken of the Darkin at some point - _if_ they were alive during the Darkin War. Given that there are no records of the Darkin, not even from the Ascended who should have fought them (especially since the Ascended fought in the fall of Icathia), the Ascended that are living today were not alive at the time Darkin War happened. Nasus, being a record keeper, should know of the Darkin if there were records of it in Shurima, as he kept extensive libraries. Given that he doesn't, and that people are ignorant as to what Darkin are, there is no way that the fall of Icathia happened before the Darkin War. [We discussed about the 3 events and their ages in here, and most of agreed on Fall of Shurima being the oldest.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/Uo8TlWqi-which-events-go-where-chronologically-the-rise-and-fall-of-shurima-rune-war-and-the-darkin-war) I would recommend to look at.
: Again, Is self amusment and joking forbidden on a charcter who has some serious power? Do you want him mad and grumpy all the time? Cause guess what, that is what old Aatrox was, and that's why he got new voicelines.
He could be like Renekton? They share a similar destiny. Why couldn't he be scarier like him and less joke? >Do you want him mad and grumpy all the time? He is still mad. Kled level mad. Joking like an idiot, someone you can't take serious.
: Oh I'm sorry, appearntly making jokes is forbidden on entities. Didn't get the memo.
Not this much. We are playing a god of war architype, not a fucking clown.
: To everyone who hates Aatrox's new voice, I have a request
"Narcissistic, meglomaniac, proud, bloodthirsty , rageful, Megatron like" entity wouldn't try to be funny, make stupid jokes and sarcasms. If he was more serious but also the features above, I could handle it. But he is now a total joke, a walking meme. Almost Kled like. They are both murderers but you can't take them serious. Sad part is, you try to find one serious, not tended to be funny interaction, only to you think you find the one but in the end there is another forced fun. Look at the Taric quote. "Not today obviously." Beyond trash.
Ifneth (NA)
: How Does Taliyah Compare to Other Elemental Weavers?
She is probably top tier. And her powers still continue to grow.
: It would not explain why they all look so similar, with pseudo human characteristics... After all, Ascended are usually creatures with animal characteristics and when the void corrupts a creature, the "shape" of the creature still similar to what it was before being corrupted. Maybe only Aatrox is a Darkin that managed to be Ascended and due that, he has wings.
Would explain his ability to change his size. _Uhm, uhm, Nasus, uhm, Renekton, uhm..._
GreenLore (EUW)
: The thing is that he doesn't talk with others to actually communicate with them,he talks to them for his own amusement,which is actually an important plot point of his backstory as that was the one thing that caused him to get imprisoned.
Yeah you are right. His personality makes sense and it plays a big role in his lore. Aatrox is still a failure though.
: Yes, but he enjoys killing those that piss him off. I feel like there’s some difference. There’s also a lack of movement audio.
If everything pisses him off, what is the difference? Rhaast finds Kayn interesting, but it still doesn't make him less murderous. Same for Aatrox, there are of course things he gives value and finds interesting, but he would likely kill almost everything. Also having a few differences don't make them completely different. They are still extremely similar in personality.
GreenLore (EUW)
: How does it contradict with Sols theme? Yes he is a giant star creating dragon,but does that mean he has to be a serious dragon? Sol seeing everyone and everything else as a joke and not taking them serious fits his theme actually pretty well,because he is just so much more powerful than almost anything else. Though I understand your overall point I just disagree on this one arguement.
If he did not take anything serious, he wouldn't even waste his time with communicating with things he doesn't take serious. He clearly doesn't say his actual thoughts. He is not the entity who doesn't give a shit. He is almost benevolent actually. He is probably the least offensive one in the list for me, though I still would prefer him more wise and less funny.
Sharjo (EUW)
: Nasus refers to it when describing Setaka in Bloodlines. Basically just his way of saying "She died just as Icathia was dooming itself".
>Nasus ignored Sivir’s cold dismissal of his quiescent war-sister and said, “A desert stylite once told her she would see the sun rise on the day a Shuriman emperor ruled the entire world. It made her think she was invincible, for we were yet to conquer the world, but she was brought down **by monsters on the eve of Icathia’s doom.** I held her as her light dimmed and I sent her to her slumber far below the sands with her weapon upon her breast.” Even if it was Setaka in Where Icathia Once Stood, I don't think it is the story where she dies. It was voidborns killed her, not the void energy. And we didn't have any voidborns in that story.
: Rhaast enjoys killing. Aatrox is angry.
Both enjoys killing. You don't laugh to what you kill without enjoying.
: but aurelion has some of the best voice acting and lines in the game
He does. That's not the problem. But it is annoying to see every power wielder trying to be funny. I can handle Aurelion Sol, because it is delivered better. It is less annoying, less forced and IMO Aurelion Sol is a more serious champion, even with this personality. He is also like one of the first of his kind, powerful champion with fun personality. Aatrox is the last offender. It boils your blood when something starts to be overused. So I like Aurelion Sol, compare to Memetrox.
: Can't please everyone. I'm hyped. I love his voice and his quotes. Its the present battle that he's involved in anyway, not going around like some old wiseman gathering lil children around the fire and telling tales. Hes in it. "Oh noes a demon of war bellowing battle cries at the enemy." Cmon now... He's awesome!
You have Rhaast basically tho? Same race, same personality.
: I like Evelynn as well, but the point still stands. Not every champion needs to be snarky; character seriousness isn't necessarily character disservice.
I like Evelynn and Aurelion Sol quotes. Don't get me wrong. But it contradicts with their theme. They shouldn't have tried to be funny that much. They are not humans. They are not trying to impressive anyone. (At least speaking for demon form Evelynn.) Evelynn voice acting is god-like. And I like her quotes even though they are somehow funny. But I would definitely like them more if they were more sadistic and less funny.
: I dont see contradictions there.
Neither do I. It is more likely to be lack of information. It can be filled and fixed in many ways of narrative.
Rioter Comments
: Rhaast is pretty bad on his own. This is just... what?
İ really hate how Riot tries to make every champion funny. He is "the World Ender". Why the fuck does he try to be funny? Why is he kidding? WHYYYYY? And how is it a lot different than Rhaast and Varus, WAARGHbobo? I will not trust you anymore. You said Xerath will change his perspective. What we have is terrible evil overlord. You said Aatrox will have a different personality than Rhaast. They are extremely similar. Almost same. Aatrox using his voice louder doesn't avoid the copy-paste personality. So much disappointment.
: It's even worse than I expected it to be.
It is a lot worse than Rhaast. I can't believe how trash it is.
: Aatrox Special interaction
Are you fucking kidding me? Another Rhaast? Who is rubbish and tries to be funny? How fucking shit, how disappointing. I really hate how "destruction addictive" creatures speak foolish, acts like a child and sounds stupid. Riot, your darkin voice acting is absolutely trash. No offensive.
Kazo Kurosu (EUNE)
: With current Aatrox changes, there're only like two/three left-handed champs left in the game.
: It depends on how Riot feels day to day. One minute, the Darkin are so weak that their invasion of Runeterra results in their entire race being wiped out and the last 5 being humiliated by being trapped in their weapons. The next minute: the Darkin are the greatest threat Runeterra has even known, and will surely bring about the Apocalypse itself. There is no consistency to the Darkin's power level, just as there is no consistency to what the Darkin actually are (Weapons or wielders? Daemons or aliens? Lore exists to support all of these contradictory positions). We will only know how powerful the Darkin are if the lore team ever decide to create consistent lore, which they haven't yet bothered to do. In the mean time, the power level of the Darkin will depend purely on whether Riot have a new Darkin to sell to Little Timmy.
Maybe they became individually stronger with the possesed bodies? Or maybe they are (Aatrox, Rhaast, Varus) the generals, the most powerful ones of their kinds, and others are nowhere near to this power level. Or Runeterra and their mages are no fucking joke. We can't know. For now.
GreenLore (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2ka4R6QP,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-06-12T17:41:27.639+0000) > > I rate him more powerful than Nasus and Renekton, but less powerful than Xerath. That would be my guess as well,but at this moment we can't really be sure.
Yes. But what we can be sure is his being top tier right now. Champions capable of destroying armies. He changed my view about the darkins. They were always trash in my eyes, like I couldn't take them and their destroying Runeterra goal serious. Now I see that they are more dangerous than I thought. Still, they are weak to magic. Xerath is magic.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Fasmodey,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=MBgfwey1,comment-id=0000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-11T21:09:03.457+0000) > > "World" can be metaphorical. Your world is your life, if I crush it under my bloodthristy blade, it ends. World can be someone you love too. If someone kills my family, my world crushes upon my head, drags me into depression and possibly suicide. I don't know. I wouldn't take World Ender too seriously until we see the lore. > > He was undoubtly evil though, no matter what. Not Thresh level, but still evil. That is fair enough i guess.
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