: Upcoming Shaco changes?
i hope they won't touche his boxes or his the fact that he can blink and go invis :o
Jajigo (EUW)
: Afk in every single Ranked game
I got 2 afk 2 games ago, 1 afk the game before and people who just perma feeds (ex: a botlane 3/22 last game in gold isn't a bad game it is feeding/not caring). for teams with no premades, lp loss should be reduced if there is an afk (with bonus lp loss for the one afk). This way people with internet issues will stop playing ranked and i won't be matchmaded with troll afk since they won't climb elo.
LYRKL (EUW)
: Why i think Shaco is in a bad state (IMO)
"when you go AD you basically abandon half of your kit exactly.'' Actually no, late game shaco box makes very good peel for your adc, blocks route path in tf, protects objectives. His ult explosion box has the same utility or inutility whether you go ad or ap (potential AoE cc/zoning).
: > [{quoted}](name=Anime Fizz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JW0jzzER,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-04-05T11:49:15.709+0000) > > Urgot is still broken tho. Broken how? Explain please
Rioter Comments
: Just a reminder: You underestimate DH Zyra
Now (patch 9.6) zyra plant can't proc dark harvest anymore, sorry.
: New patch regarding shaco
shaco box still can't proc dark harvest or spellthief :(
Rioter Comments
: Vayne rebalance....
Shes op af, our vayne (which wasn't very good & was 2/5 top lane) managed to SOLO quadrakill the ennemy team : we won but that's really unfair..
: Vayne mains fuck you
you forgot the comma
Purpp (EUNE)
: "Attempting to reconnect" but my internet is good
same for me , i don't wanna be reported because of this ...
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Filthy Rank,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=96XnEotT,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-12-21T09:53:22.917+0000) > > No, shaco doesn't need a buff, maybe ap shaco that is sub-viable, but ad shaco jungle not at all. > I'm a shaco main, so im saying this objectively. Just his early-game, man. Only his early-game, and maybe his passive could scale with crit or some shit so that it's not useless to buy crit items on him? If you crit with him his passive is just useless right now, since it doesn't add anything.
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=96XnEotT,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-12-22T06:24:40.893+0000) > > Just his early-game, man. Only his early-game, and maybe his passive could scale with crit or some shit so that it's not useless to buy crit items on him? If you crit with him his passive is just useless right now, since it doesn't add anything. i think the new crit items will be better on shaco ^^
: Oracle's Alteration Should Not Activate Boxes.
As an ap shaco one trick pony i feel you, a sweeping lens can ruin you a game totally, even worse if you lane against a ranged champion (free box gold & minion farm for them). I have 2 suggestions : => Maybe makes so red trinket only reveals box but makes then die to one hit ? So even melee can clear them with auto if they really wan't to or with their medium-range aoe ability (and so doesn't get feared). => Or make so that the sweeping lens reveal and disable box fears while the trinket is on (but box doesn't activate and disappear in 5 seconds), again making so melee can still kill them without taking too much damage and shaco can still try to prevent them from doing so. :)
Zeus xD (EUNE)
: Shaco: Dark harvest nerfs , tiamat nerfs , stormrazer bug?
No, shaco doesn't need a buff, maybe ap shaco that is sub-viable, but ad shaco jungle not at all. I'm a shaco main, so im saying this objectively.
Rioter Comments
: Leblanc is pretty much 100% pick/ban at worlds
Her E is dodgable with good reflex but her W... Riot need to reduce her W speed because if she lands it + add some free autos it is over for anyone
Altiverse (EUNE)
: Um excuse me what the fuck .jpg https://i.snag.gy/td4vHe.jpg Shaco is the highest winrate jungler at the moment.
> [{quoted}](name=Altiverse,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2wGpn0f3,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-17T15:37:58.249+0000) > > Um excuse me what the fuck .jpg > https://i.snag.gy/td4vHe.jpg > > Shaco is the highest winrate jungler at the moment. as a otp shaco main, i feel also ashamed of shaco mains saying "shaco needs a buff", maybe ap shaco but ad shaco jungle certainly not.
: shaco #1 jungler. 58% winrate late game
Also your link doesn't show a 58% winrate but a 51 to 56% (depending on elo) at 40+ minutes He is also 22 to number 2 depending on the elo The higher the elo, teh higher he is in winrate and jungler ladder. At your elo (gold 4 in NA) he has 52% winrate for 1% play rate (nothing crazy) and is number 5 jungler... so what do you really complaint for ?
: shaco #1 jungler. 58% winrate late game
shaco is strong, but more because of you then him. Players of low-medium elo (bronze-gold) never think of red trinket or to stick to the adc in tf if they have hard cc. Make a shaco cry : build zhonya/GA/ninja tabi
: shaco #1 jungler. 58% winrate late game
are you seriously complaining of his crit ? the +30% bonus ad when attacking from behind ?
: Duskblade Rework Idea
best way to counter dusk vision passive... is to ward enough and space the wards you can also buy control ward early-mid game, the most important part of the game against assasins ;)
: We still need more nerfs to reliable burst
doing so will nerf all assasins (while some are balanced), so no better nerf zed specifically
: Shaco's Boxes Aren't Prioritizing Correctly!
box will always focus the closest target when activating but will hardlock if it is a champion, so you have to play around it.
: [GAMEPLAY] Shaco boxes and Volib E ?or W?
volibear fear stuns shaco box for 3 seconds because they are coded as minions, making voli quite strong against shaco top ;)
Rioter Comments
: [GAMEPLAY] Shaco Critics from behind
it is a bug already reported, but idk if riot have seen it
: [Gameplay] Shaco - You come out of Stealth Immediately After Using Deceieve
It happens in at least half of my games with shaco :') I have to always be very carefull to not Q on a mob (like gromp behind the wall), on someone in a bush (how do you predict this ??), on a minion in lane or a champion i wanna q over to outplay :o The worst is that the auto is cancelled so you do no damage but stealth goes off ^^'
: [MEGATHREAD] Let's Discuss: Shaco
I feel ad shaco is strong and fun to play, but as an ap shaco main, i find him maybe too hard to play for the rewards. To make him less one shot or be killed, maybe reduce his q cd a little bit but reduce its invisibility too, or maybe better : it would be cool to have a little buff to his E which has high mana cost for sub-correct damage, like maybe reduce the mana cost or increase his ap ratio by maybe 10-15% like the old values without backstab passive (100%).
: Adaptive Champions, and Why Shaco Should be the First.
It would be so cool to have just his E doing adaptive damage :/
: Shaco is still way too overtuned
Shaco can't one shot unless he has dark harvest and is very fed (+ you have no armor, no shields). But he can kill you if you had already lost some hp and this is normal.
: I've never stopped hating Shaco. His kit is some of the most toxic and anti-fun stuff League has ever made- but ** "It's okay because he falls off."** Wukong W and Ezreal E in one ability for maximum frustration. Traps that cannot be seen, cannot be disarmed without triggering by a melee without ideal circumstances, cannot be displaced even if triggered, bring hard cc, and don't have the hp mechanics other stationary traps do. Oh, and an ult that lets him dodge anything if timed correctly and spawns another him- who then explodes into more of the aforementioned traps.
> [{quoted}](name=SociopathFriend,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LEuWPZ4h,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-04-05T18:45:12.345+0000) > > I've never stopped hating Shaco. His kit is some of the most toxic and anti-fun stuff League has ever made- but ** "It's okay because he falls off."** > > Wukong W and Ezreal E in one ability for maximum frustration. > Traps that cannot be seen, cannot be disarmed without triggering by a melee without ideal circumstances, cannot be displaced even if triggered, bring hard cc, and don't have the hp mechanics other stationary traps do. > Oh, and an ult that lets him dodge anything if timed correctly and spawns another him- who then explodes into more of the aforementioned traps. so much bullshit ^^ 1) Shaco q doesn't give a decoy like wukong E & it cannot stop skillshots, it is a long cd blink without the auto targeting damage that ezreal has, but with invisibility and damage (only if you auto before the stealth goes off) 2) Shaco trap can be seen if you build duskblade, place a pink, use red trinket, btw they don't do a lot of damage unless you stay near them and auto them (no building any ad and not using spells on it). Btw they CAN be displaced, they can be stunned too or parried (like with jax E). They have an hp pool so can be one shotted contrary to zyra or teemo shrooms. 3) Yes his ult can dodge things (like a lot of champion ult or abilities), but with a little bit of thinking you can almost instantly know who is the clone and so kill the real shaco or escape the clone explosion, his clone box also can be one shotted all at the same time since they share the same hp.
Naywo (EUW)
: Double indirect Shaco Nerf : Shaco state Discussion & Questions.
shaco needs a passive rework to make him a real assasin and not a bruiser on hit
Weedbro (NA)
: Shaco doesn't fucking need a buff in any goddamned dimension that exists.
"AP shaco is fucking powerfull" do you mean that you are the kind of guy that get baited in his boxes ? Because without his boxes ap shaco is so bad x)
Spârky (NA)
: I might have an idea why people think Zoe is op
I mean when you are midlane and then a zoe support comes from nowhere (ss plz) and takes litteraly 90% of your hp with her Q, difficult to find this balanced, as a support she burst way harder,quicker and at a safer distance then me, while im supposed to be the assasin.
Kyunsei (EUW)
: Janna is still OP btw
why almost each games janna has crazy damage ? (half of the time more then the top laner or adc)
: "Graves has an unreliable early-game, so we buffed him" Meanwhile, Shaco?
Shaco is pretty strong you just need to play him more or just stop playing him
Azadethe (NA)
: I'd love to know how you think he's doing poorly. He's literally the only level 1 Invisibility Champ left, and that means the entire game, Pinks don't work vs him, and he has no way to make him targettable other than to actually turn around and face him..... In which case he's already taken 2/3 of someone's HP due to the Duskblade proc and his passive activating on his first hit. And then, unless you are an aoe nuker, you're probably focusing his clone. The best you can do at all is run a Sweeper, which you don't know when to use because he really gives no indication at most times he's there. So yeah. I'd love to know how he's doing poorly. They took Eve's level 1 CAMOUFLAGE, and she CAN be seen by pinks.
> [{quoted}](name=Azadethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=u0lPaETe,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-01-14T10:14:44.606+0000) > > I'd love to know how you think he's doing poorly. He's literally the only level 1 Invisibility Champ left, and that means the entire game, Pinks don't work vs him, and he has no way to make him targettable other than to actually turn around and face him..... In which case he's already taken 2/3 of someone's HP due to the Duskblade proc and his passive activating on his first hit. And then, unless you are an aoe nuker, you're probably focusing his clone. > > The best you can do at all is run a Sweeper, which you don't know when to use because he really gives no indication at most times he's there. > > So yeah. I'd love to know how he's doing poorly. > > They took Eve's level 1 CAMOUFLAGE, and she CAN be seen by pinks. "He's literally the only level 1 Invisibility Champ left" no, just no shaco ever take Q level 1, also twitch can be invisible level 1 for 6-7 times shaco stealth duration (10 sec vs 1,5 sec)
: Why Does Playing Support Mean I'm Bad At League?
well it depend on the support, if you play shaco support it ain't goint to be easy
DaCurtis (OCE)
: Twin Shadows item will return then? :O In all seriousness though, I hope Riot somehow finds a way to bring back frost queens quest reward by having bonus movespeed on ability hit. Losing that will be a tragedy on how I play my game.
> [{quoted}](name=DaCurtis,realm=OCE,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=xeAEIL6M,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-01-09T21:19:24.485+0000) > > Twin Shadows item will return then? :O > > In all seriousness though, I hope Riot somehow finds a way to bring back frost queens quest reward by having bonus movespeed on ability hit. Losing that will be a tragedy on how I play my game. Twin shadow was cool but abusable whereas frostqueen being support only made it less abusable while still being good on ap support (damage and cc).
: Why not Lethal Tempo on Darius?
because of the auto attack reset i don't think he really needs attack speed
SirPurrr (NA)
: Shaco Lethal Tempo Bugs?
not a bug it is the same with guinsoo, since the item exist, shaco clone keeps some buffs like for exemple raptor cloak movespeed. Its cool, but not gamebreaking
GGLineaR (NA)
: Yo. Riot enough with the mastery censoring
It is still stupid : it censor "Ass" from assasin...
: Opinion on Aatrox as a champion
he is crazy overpowered, i love him x) just take the mastery lethal tempo and go hp/ad fighter
: Ap Lethality Shaco
looks interesting, but you have 0 tankiness, is a dps item (nashor tooth) really a good idea if you have no sustain ? Is PTA better for a glass cannon then a quick Electrocute since it is less bursty ?
: that's why i say it's inconsistent. No root is specified anywhere. And comparing it to other fears, shaco's one is unique, even if they're all called "fear"
> [{quoted}](name=AnataBakka,realm=EUW,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=hjU9AMTg,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-12-31T14:58:14.066+0000) > > that's why i say it's inconsistent. No root is specified anywhere. And comparing it to other fears, shaco's one is unique, even if they're all called "fear" ye true, sadly riot doesn't specifies a lot of thing, players has to find them, like box not being able to deal spell effects, being able to cancel dashes (old version), invisibility wearing off with cancelled autos,etc...
: Shaco W "fear" inconsistencies
it is not inconsistent, shaco box are supposed (coded like that) to always root ennemies for 0,5 sec while fearing them at the same time, so level 1 box won't move ennemy just root+fear them in the place (=stun ?), level 2 box will fear them for 0,75 sec which mean 0,5 sec rooted + 0,25 sec real fear, maxed box have an effective 1 sec fear duration
: Have you looked into my build? The only reason why I think you should cause late game {{item:3135}}, {{item:3165}} do not help your overall damage as your E is Physical and will not proc {{item:3165}} or any magic damage proc items. I have an AP build with {{item:3147}} as it synergizes with your Q, gives you lethality for a better E, and helps with overall backstab damage with your good AP ratios.
> [{quoted}](name=WarHero54,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ofrvx0x2,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2017-12-30T19:58:37.605+0000) > > Have you looked into my build? The only reason why I think you should cause late game {{item:3135}}, {{item:3165}} do not help your overall damage as your E is Physical and will not proc {{item:3165}} or any magic damage proc items. I have an AP build with {{item:3147}} as it synergizes with your Q, gives you lethality for a better E, and helps with overall backstab damage with your good AP ratios. maybe add a liandry ? Its passive works the comet, gunblade, but also E which will then proc morello heal reduction ^^ the combo box drop + duskblade slow is pretty good to make sure the ennemy get feared
: AP Shaco: A Year in Review
there is an error : shaco box attacks 8 times and not 10 times, also their fear was changed to 0,5 root+1sec fear or it was always like that ? But more importantly, do someone know if shaco box still cancel some dash abilities ?
Eggbread (NA)
: Why Can You Flash Out of Garen's Ult?
it is the same with a lot of targeted ability, like for example with shaco E : it is cancelled if shaco loose the vision of the ennemy or if he get out of range, but once it is cast it is gonna follow the guy anywhere
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