Lan Fan (EUW)
: Mega-post of some balance changes that should be done (under my opinion)
>Wukong: Reduce the knock up duration of his R, remove the Q armor shred or increase it and reduce his ad ratio (Depending if you want him to be a bruiser or assasin) Riot shouldnt listen low elo about balance. D5 still D5 even when you remove it... sheesh. Nerfing an already trash champion lmao
: So you're saying because of low elo players' inability to adapt and get better, we have to change?
am saying due to handless players we got punished
: No counterplay? There’s always counterplay to his kit, zhonyas, stopwatch, cc. Blow you up?, does rengar, talon, kha’zix not do the same? In fact, wukong is probably the least reliable assassin out of all of them since his kit isn’t forgivable unlike other assassin’s kit as he doesn’t have an escape, it just takes one well-timed stopwatch or one good Janna or lulu to blast you away, and you become irrelevant the whole fight while other assassins are more consistent and still remain a threat. These changes let him not be so reliable on a specific spike and lets him have a laning phase like all other assassins. Legit wukong’s reliability is his ult and his one shot, if he doesn’t not kill his target, he better hope is ult’s knockup gives him enough time for his team to follow up or give him enough time to disengage. And that’s not counting all the other cc the enemy team has in store for you, other assassins such as kha’zix and talon have escapes like talon’s e or kha’zix’s e and ult so they are more forgivable if they screw up an assassination attempt, but not wukong and they all have reliable damage early while wukong doesn’t. And there spikes are just as strong as wukong’s if not stronger.
i reword for him, there no counterplay in very low elo (everything below plat) cause players like basics (knowledge and mechanics).
: > [{quoted}](name=Fire Blaustoise,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fEaAbmIt,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-06-08T13:36:09.406+0000) > > Playing since season 4 but still bad enough at the game for Wukong being an issue for you. This champion is trash. Just improve your skills instead crying. im playign since season 3 but i quit this game in s6, came back a month ago. wu was ban/pick in s4 when i played this game.
> [{quoted}](name=Heko The Man,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fEaAbmIt,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-06-08T14:44:38.514+0000) > > im playign since season 3 but i quit this game in s6, came back a month ago. > wu was ban/pick in s4 when i played this game. He was ban/pick before riot nerfed him first then he was low tier champ again until riot buffed him last season then gutted him. He's a "noobstomper". Like when you reach diams players (then master they dodge) will flame you for picking it.
: This whole comment section reminds me those about Riven 1-2 months ago. Luckily, those who said "Don't nerf Riven" or "YOU cAnT CoUnTeR HeR CuZ YoUr BaD" didn't get away.
> [{quoted}](name=Hokuto No Shen,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2QlApqdJ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-07T04:01:37.212+0000) > > This whole comment section reminds me those about Riven 1-2 months ago. Luckily, those who said "Don't nerf Riven" or "YOU cAnT CoUnTeR HeR CuZ YoUr BaD" didn't get away. That said... im still waiting for them to nerf Riven (she's still op and toptier)
: Wukong
Playing since season 4 but still bad enough at the game for Wukong being an issue for you. This champion is trash. Just improve your skills instead crying.
: > [{quoted}](name=Moonscourge,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=30M5WioE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-02T19:45:55.821+0000) > > No, he is not sitting at a 42% winrate. Look at op,gg
Look at u.gg Yeah, Wukong is trash , but op.gg only use kr stats. https://u.gg/lol/champions/wukong/build/
: > [{quoted}](name=Wublerdude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=30M5WioE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-05-02T20:10:06.933+0000) > > Maybe because wukong jg was extreamly toxic in its day, > > His clear was insane, > > He was an early game assassin > > His invades were always safe because of his clone > > Invisibility, and a dash, Extreamly easy to abuse duskblade, > > And to top it all off, mid/late he was an assassin/team fight monster/play maker, clear was insnace ? you kidding right ? early game assassin ?
Dont feed. He say Wukong clear was insane, he was an early champ, and Wukong invaded...
: Maybe because wukong jg was extreamly toxic in its day, He was an early game assassin His invades were always safe because of his clone Invisibility, and a dash, Extreamly easy to abuse duskblade, And to top it all off, mid/late he was an assassin/team fight monster/play maker,
He was toxic in low elo, cause players are bad there. In decent elo he was never an issue. Playing Wukong in jungle was already close of troll against Lee sin, elise, Kindred and cie. > **His clear was insane**, > **He was an early game assassin** > **His invades were always safe because of his clone** > Invisibility, and a dash, Extreamly easy to abuse duskblade, > And to top it all off, mid/late he was an assassin/team fight monster/play maker You should learn the game before throwing big bs like this, no joke.
IAmTheLego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fire Blaustoise,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BXxQfXGt,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-14T22:11:08.290+0000) > > your point can be summed up by > > basically if it dosnt make damage its healthy. its dumb. It's a utility spell. Designed to PROTECT allies. What exactly is your point? You think Taric's R is toxic solely because it blocks out damage or something?
My point is low elo players dont understand what's strong unless it deal damage. And no, i dont think his R is an issue... his other spells are unhealthy and too strong.
Quáx (NA)
: Right because the original Taric was soooooooooo much better.....
>**He doesn't need to be reverted** but his kit needs a massive power down.
: People whine about Taric because of funneling and Sona/Taric comp bot lane. His ultimate and how his E work make it possible in most of the case. He could get changed but honestly I don't know how.
yeah, most issue with funneling come from supports (taric and lulu).
: He doesn't need changes He is one of the Balanced champions in the game His Ultimate is not broken , it IS AN ULTIMATE !
> [{quoted}](name=Kitsune Kawaii,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BXxQfXGt,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-14T17:04:43.943+0000) > > He doesn't need changes > He is one of the Balanced champions in the game > Her Ultimate is not broken , it IS AN ULTIMATE ! Karthus ultimate isnt broken, IT IS AN ULTIMATE {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
IAmTheLego (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BXxQfXGt,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-04-14T20:05:02.384+0000) > > "If it doesn't do damage its not toxic." > > Right, glad you summed up why I ignore most of you Oh so this slight line and you ignore the point I make to validate it on why taric's ulti is not much of a big issue? I said it before and I'll say it again. You're unbelievable. I read your shit and made my argument. So how about you read my shit and make your own argument? Too much effort I should say. I'm surprised you're not perma banned from boards for sounding like an idiot. Yet again...it's probably unfair anyway. You're my little comedy gold.
>Oh so this slight line and you ignore the point I make to validate it on why taric's ulti is not much of a big issue? your point can be summed up by >Unless its cooldown is 30 seconds, does massive aoe damage like Neeko ulti, and also heals and shields all at the same time, then that's when "Taric is a toxic champion" becomes a valid point. Which it doesn't. basically if it dosnt make damage its healthy. its dumb.
: Everything Taric does is highly telegraphed and has delays on it. Champion is fine.
maybe his kit seems fine in your elo, but when reaching a decent rank you will change your mind
Moody P (NA)
: Taric is a toxic champion and his rework is terrible
>It's time to admit that Taric is a problem champion. Yeah. >Nothing about this character is thought out very well and the sheer gold value he brings through shields and heals combined with **his frankly unfair ultimate** makes it so that any meta he can be decent in is automatically a meta in which he's top tier in. I disagree tho. I think the ultimate is what is interesting and the most fair sh*t in his kit. His shield like most shield is stupid, unfair and no interactive (still waiting for counter shield, riot think Aatrox is enough lmao). Providing shield without doing anything, this board this its healthy. >"If it doesn't do damage its not toxic/healthy." its legit the logic of this board and reddit, good luck to make them reason.
: I don't usually lsoe against him the champ os just insanely unfun to play against. Similar to nasus. Horrible design, hope they keep him in the gutter he should never be viable unless reworked.
you are able to make a complain about an already trash champ, despite playing Tryndamere (also a trash champ but toxic).
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=XElite109,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jn3TM3Nd,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-26T03:58:44.891+0000) > > The thing is he's a iron to plat stomper. He's not good enough to be played in Higher Elo where these higher skill cap champions are and only comes up to rape squishies. like riven for example can be shat on in iron to gold but plat and up they know how to use her and make her impossiblele to fight. wu doesn't really have that many things he can use so if he's not even strong enough to punish mistakes people might make while laning to snowball like pantheon or yi, then what good is he right now he's super niche and I don't like that at all. :/ I mean his win rate is above average there too, but ok.
Using wr without pickrate is dumb. There a reason players dodge and insult you if you pick Wukong in high elo here (EU) outside low elo.
: > [{quoted}](name=Fire Blaustoise,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ImVPZHRP,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-03-01T00:13:22.859+0000) > > His laning is clearly the weakest of every toplaner. > > You see this in low elo. Then you climb and most will dodge or flame you for obvious reason. Op cry about this, but its his fault for playing a weak champ and not muting other. > > > That said ValiantKiller, you play in low elo. Either you get good and climb, either you change your champ. Wukong is trash, but you can clearly reach plat... And i have trouble believe jungling is hard in your elo. > Stop b******, riot already said they plan something > > https://twitter.com/RiotAzuBK/status/1085608456453668864 I already reached plat with wukong in pre-season, it just i pointing out how people call me a trash and insult me for my pick i don't care what they want, I legit went ACE according to every website in that game where i got insult, so yah
just mute them. Wukong is same as a troll pick outside low elo. > I legit went ACE according to every website in that game where i got insult, so yah this dosnt matter. What matter is elo, so climb.
: Wukong is cancer
Learn how play this game... and above all use your brain. Build this {{item:3047}} instead {{item:3006}}. As Tryndamere you cant lose your lane against a wukong... unless you are bad (no offense).
Løban (EUW)
: @Riot - about the Monkey King
Look at this https://twitter.com/RiotAzuBK/status/1085608456453668864
: So much of what you said is wrong. His laning isnt the weakest in the game. I see people play wukong jungle just fine and people calling you bad and flaming you should be reported and muted which isnt riots fault, its the person flaming you who is at fault. Wukongs kit is in a fine state although not perfect while kayle and teemo are rather binary and unfun to play against and in the case of kayle unfun to play. Those filthy teemo mains seem to have fun playing him regardless though.
>His laning isnt the weakest in the game. His laning is clearly the weakest of every toplaner. > I see people play wukong jungle just fine You see this in low elo. Then you climb and most will dodge or flame you for obvious reason. Op cry about this, but its his fault for playing a weak champ and not muting other. That said ValiantKiller, you play in low elo. Either you get good and climb, either you change your champ. Wukong is trash, but you can clearly reach plat... And i have trouble believe jungling is hard in your elo. Stop b******, riot already said they plan something https://twitter.com/RiotAzuBK/status/1085608456453668864
: I want to enjoy my time playing ranked but I can't
>The champion has a good win rate, but it feels horrible to play him. On decent servers : https://u.gg/lol/champions/wukong/build/?role=top&region=euw1 https://u.gg/lol/champions/wukong/build/?role=top&region=kr And its not even high elo (plat isnt high). Wukong is trash, ofc you dont enjoy. That said, you shouldnt have any trouble in gold even if the pick is trash. >Maybe I am doing something wrong now. Indeed you do... But if you don't succed to correct your mistakes, i advice you to either ask someone to review your games or either to change for a decent champion.
nelogis (EUW)
: If you say so. Then that means he has an outdated kit that no longer functions in the current version of the game and needs to be updated.
no... that means his stats and ratio are trash.
: Wukong is so under-powered.
Hiding names players... is this a normal game ?? or a silver game ?
: > [{quoted}](name=Fire Blaustoise,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XpHHIgzZ,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-15T12:57:41.621+0000) Not really my mistake personally, I don't have trouble with any of Urgot's matchups really since I know how to play into the good and the bad. I'm really just addressing why he has such a low winrate against wukong as a whole on account of other peoples' mistakes.
Wukong lose lane, but win game. Cause most Urgot abuser have bad macro thats all nothing more. Wukong is trash when players know how play... but he's fine in your rank, so yeah, it come from you.
: is it okay if i just int since im countered in every match?
> see if I can drop my mmr so I can play with really low elo its already the case
Omen46 (NA)
: hey? Lame ass over here, why is stoneplate considered so bad? doesn't it kinda stack with wukong passive? 80 MR and Armor at point of engage WITHOUT pressing it is still rather defensive, you lose damage only when using the ability. I can understand if you want to go pure assassin, but if a game goes on long enough, and there's not too much need for more damage, wouldn't be better to not have the possibility of being popped moments after using your engage? Or is this more along the lines of just having a GA, and just spamming w to get away scotch free instead of remaining in a fight a few moments longer for something like Black cleaver to shred or continuously hold focus?
sorry late reply. yeah it stack with Wukong passive... but just considere Wukong as a passiveless champion. Wukong has no cc beside his ult. His only utility is to bring damage. If you go bruiserish the best way is to use damage + hp/resistance items (such BC, Sterak, GA, maw). Like the best Wukong EU https://euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=Pisse%20de%20Bloos That said the glass cannon build surely be better next patches again (if we are back into adc centric meta)
: > [{quoted}](name=Toþykachu,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XpHHIgzZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-15T01:16:27.414+0000) His damage is high enough that he can solo Urgot early and his clone provides counterplay to the e and ulti. Now, most assassiny style fighters have a chance to kill/dive Urgot early as well, and all of them of course fall off against him due to armor stacking, but the brass monkey brings a pretty funky ulti to the table, the hard cc of which helps him to carry his lead through the midgame during teamfights to help close out the match before Urgot can really catch up.
He can't. You just dont know how play the match up. There no way, Urgot losing this match up... even after giving a kill, Urgot should have the pressure. The mistake is on you.
: I played a lot of wukong s8 and pre season 9, and know what? I skipped caring about early and mid game and made a whole late game rune page and build. So basically, I went conquerer, and for secondary gathering storm was a must, and for stat shards, pick whatever you want. Ingame, I basically mix and matched items to make him a teamfight hurricane. A gargoyles stoneplate for living. One of the tiamat items depending on how much tank or damage we need. one youmuus for speed. one deadmans if more speed is needed. Basically, I built depending on what was needed, while making him into a bruiser, and since I had conquerer, not too much damage was needed lategame, as long as I had the time to do damage, and with gathering storm kicking in nicely after 30 mins, it went really well. I could make a guide if you want.
> I skipped caring about early and mid game and made a whole late game rune page You can do this cause you play in low elo. > So basically, I went conquerer, its okay... but it dosnt change Wukong problems. > A gargoyles stoneplate for living. Its trash. It decrease Wukong damages, Wukong has no utility beside a knockup. You would do better with a real champion... mainly if you build him tanky.
: To be fair I think they over buffed his Q initially. I think he deserved a nerf. But his Q, E, items, and runes got nerfed. I wish they'd just give him some form of sustain, or increased his health regeneration and health regeneration per level. Those stats, and his mana are so poor. I think it'd be a good QoL thing.
The q wasnt overbuffed. in high elo Wukong wasnt even close of a good pick. Duskblade & Storm were the issue... in low elo. Stormrazor wasnt even played in high elo. When played by Caps, he didnt even carried so much, Broxah and Hyllisang carried the games.
VvVVvV (NA)
: Sorry but I find it hard to feel sympathy for any champs that get to use {{item:3147}} with Electrocute.
feel free to complain about duskblade and electrocute... despite them not being strong. Better complain than git gud.
Omen46 (NA)
: Ouch, I know what you mean. That feeling when your favorite champs gets nerfed hard, not because they were actually nerfed but everything else was buffed to be better at everything. {{champion:150}} {{sticker:sg-soraka}}
I mean... Gnar was directly nerfed cause he was f*cking ennuyous in high elo and was perma picked in competitive (gnar vs x isnt fun to watch).
: Tip? Just dont play x champ because they are bad
Wukong sucks, so yeah, there no other response than "play a real champ". But you can reach plat easly with him.
: Wukong needs some major work
: Wukongs W is a nerf, please do not change the armor color based on using Decoy.
ennemy dont see the color change. Its like this since age
: Why does Nocturne's passive scale with AP?
For Wukong its cause he's an old champ, and cause old triforce used to have some ap (goal was to make him use all stat). But yeah, its stupid to not have changed this since.
: my argument is that you can't take someone that bitches about everything seriously. the same way you won't take a broken clock seriously. Sure, it shows the right time twice a day, but you don't schedule your time based on what that broken clock says, nor do you pay attention to it, nor do you try to make an argument towards how right it is those 2 times, and how wrong it is those 99+ times. again, he complain about everything under the sun, there isn't a thing he didn't complain about. EVERYTHING is broken according to him. Everything except the bug where kled's Q cancels Poppy's E, that's fine.
But when Hashinshin complain about something its not dumb like most of this board like " x is broken. period". Usualy its more like "this thing is broken cause .... ". And this topic is about knowing if Hashinshin was right or wrong. He wasnt wrong, he said : - tanks were op : yeah they were (they will be again when conqueror will be nerfed) - bruisers didnt have keystone for them : was true for most (and thats what matter) He asked riot to nerf tanks and give a keystone designed for bruiser. He was right on this fact... but in the end he dont even work at riot.
Theorex (NA)
: As a diamond player, I can fully say that if you do the following things you'll get places.
>7: Always pick Yasuo, Riven, Zed, Master Yi, and Vayne. Only Zed is trash in this list (and in low elo they dont abuse his laning and early ).
: 1: Never blame the top laner 2: It's always his fault 3: When you win a 5v5, always try to lose it right when you leave lane. Until you lose. 4: Always follow your enemy, and always be on their side of the map. Especially if you are not the mid laner. 5: If you see someone who has no bounty on them, never try to team kill them. want to risk giving that gold from yourself. 6: clairvoyance is a good summoner spell to use. 7: Never pick Taliyah, Ivern, Lux, Wukong, and Morgana. 8: always build offensive items. need them if the ally is alive. 9: get kills, that is some strong food. Only pros think about those. 10: Do all of that.
>7: Never pick Taliyah, Ivern, Lux, Wukong, and Morgana. not picking lux & Wukong is a good advice tho.
: And yet people cried that Fervor was removed
i think its unrelated... but fervor was braindead too.
K6ace (NA)
: When is wukong finally getting reworked? Does riot not care about him or something?
: Aaaaaaand this is why you never give up in ranked. (Especially if you have a Master Yi on your team)
>Don't give up in ranked. Only true if you are low elo. Most of time its just a waste of time and energy (mates fighting among self)
Syrile (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fire Blaustoise,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5VjKerlZ,comment-id=0004000000000001,timestamp=2019-01-22T18:00:31.113+0000) > > its really hard to talk with you, you have a low elo pov and your lack of experience. Wr dont matter, his pickrate is low. > > Would be faster for you to look at Harambe stream (and ask him). > > There no decents toplaners losing to a Wukong in straight 1v1. > > no. Play him top, you will be surprise. You think he's good cause in your plats games the few wukongs are always fed. > > If you're a supp mains or most tanks tbh, should take no effort to manage a Wukong. > > > are you really saying plat is high level ? > > that why you should stop looking at wr. Wukong can't win the 1v1 against Illaoi and its clearly. > > Why using even mainly in Yasuo case ?? Yasuo isnt a strong toplaner. > > Wukong used to counter him... before riot nerfed him, now, yasuo just need to build tabi and its gg. Jax win against Wukong most of time and outscale him. Really a free lane for JAx. If your entire argument is that "your elo is too low to matter" you have proven that you have no interest in a logical conversation. ELO, on any account, means nothing when presented with facts. I gave you statistics for the top players of that champion vs top players of other popular champions. You can claim that "elo and lack of experience" is a problem. That is no different than saying "you are bronze" and is a very, very sad attempt at being insulting. You should probably read the actual post instead of hurling insults and pretending that valid statistics are invalid.
Just go on Wukong sub reddit or x champions subb, and ask them if Wukong counter their pick. You're to focused on wr. You can even ask to the best Wukong NA, would be faster.
Syrile (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Fire Blaustoise,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5VjKerlZ,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-01-22T13:08:28.861+0000) > > He dont. Most toplaners are tanky and have sustain. Wukong has low damage before finishing his first item and reaching lv11. Just building tabi is enough for removing Wukong from toplane... but anyway, most toplaners insta win the lane against him (granted you need to know how lane). > Wukong never come from nowhere.... you should just controle the map and developpe your selfawarness. 58.02 Win% against Ornn 59.02 Win% against Irelia 57.58 Win% against Viktor 62.56 Win% against Vayne 60.19 Win% against Mundo 58.72 Win% against Shen 58.18 Win% against Galio 57.10 Win% against Akali 56.60 Win% against Pantheon 62.68 Win% against Lissandra All in top lane only. All in the last 7 days. Even picks like Illaoi and Quinn only beat him by less than 2% And this is high-level play, not bronze so knowing how to lane is not a question. Even Yasuo and Jax (of all people) have losing Win% against Wukong by over 6% for Yasuo and around 3% for Jax. Dude counters a lot of top lane pretty hard if you can play him well. And as for "never out of nowhere" because of map awareness... You can say that for basically anyone. But a guy with invisibility and a dash can easily appear quickly. This took basically no effort to find.
its really hard to talk with you, you have a low elo pov and your lack of experience. Wr dont matter, his pickrate is low. Would be faster for you to look at Harambe stream (and ask him). There no decents toplaners losing to a Wukong in straight 1v1. >Dude counters a lot of top lane pretty hard if you can play him well. no. Play him top, you will be surprise. You think he's good cause in your plats games the few wukongs are always fed. >And as for "never out of nowhere" because of map awareness... You can say that for basically anyone. But a guy with invisibility and a dash can easily appear quickly. This took basically no effort to find. If you're a supp mains or most tanks tbh, should take no effort to manage a Wukong. >And this is high-level play, not bronze so knowing how to lane is not a question. are you really saying plat is high level ? >Even picks like Illaoi and Quinn only beat him by less than 2% that why you should stop looking at wr. Wukong can't win the 1v1 against Illaoi and its clearly. >Even Yasuo and Jax (of all people) have losing Win% against Wukong by over 6% for Yasuo and around 3% for Jax. Why using even mainly in Yasuo case ?? Yasuo isnt a strong toplaner. Wukong used to counter him... before riot nerfed him, now, yasuo just need to build tabi and its gg. Jax win against Wukong most of time and outscale him. Really a free lane for JAx.
: What even is wukong
Wukong is weak atm, i advice you to not play him. He was overnerfed (dont listen these players saying he's fine, they have no clue about the game). Wukong is a Divers (x assassin). But if you pick him you have no lane pressure (or jungle pressure), you just play hoping your mates stay even... in this case a Malphite is a better choice. You are easly diveable, despite playing your whole lane under turret. make yourself a favor, dont play him.
Syrile (NA)
: Wukong has been massively underrated for a long time. Like the old version of Swain or even Quinn before she took off sometime last year. He counters a lot of people in top lane and does stupid amounts of damage and can come out of nowhere with his invis. It is just that not a lot of people play him so that means he is less known. Old Swain could solo carry a game and when I first started playing I saw maybe one or two of him in a 6 month period. Then I picked him up and was instantly hooked. Then they reworked him into a much harder to play champion that I wish existed separately but still love. :) Some champions just get overlooked to be honest.
>He counters a lot of people in top lane and does stupid amounts of damage and can come out of nowhere with his invis. He dont. Most toplaners are tanky and have sustain. Wukong has low damage before finishing his first item and reaching lv11. Just building tabi is enough for removing Wukong from toplane... but anyway, most toplaners insta win the lane against him (granted you need to know how lane). Wukong never come from nowhere.... you should just controle the map and developpe your selfawarness.
: ill never understand why Wukong players think they have it so bad. Wukong is better, and more functional than like 50% of the champion pool.
> [{quoted}](name=PhearBunny,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=5VjKerlZ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-21T23:38:07.154+0000) > > ill never understand why Wukong players think they have it so bad. You'll never understand for many reasons : - you play in low elo (yeah, gold is low elo) : mean you and your mates are unlikely to play properly (from laning to teamfight). - you dont play Wukong nor against There a reason his pickrate is so low, and a reason why in diams players dont like when you pick Wukong.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: He's a monkey.
Not a monkey. The Monkey King
: Akali has 47 w/r in masters+ but I guess that's bad players dragging her down.
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